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| 02:11.51 | Paul_UK | hey room! |
| 02:14.12 | z00dax | wuzip |
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| 10:18.00 | Ch0Hag | What yahoo porn chatbots? |
| 10:19.07 | benoyst | whaT ? |
| 10:19.11 | benoyst | hahaha |
| 10:19.28 | antiphase | ringpieceteddy |
| 10:26.09 | goibhniu | all the ones that say "hi .. it's been such a long time since we've chatted ... why not visit my page and you can see me on my webcam ;) from girlygirl" etc |
| 10:26.28 | Ch0Hag | Why don't I get them? |
| 10:26.30 | goibhniu | there seems to be a glut of them recently |
| 10:30.22 | antiphase | I had a conversation with one of those once |
| 10:30.57 | goibhniu | hehe |
| 10:31.25 | antiphase | http://www.ossified.net/cyndi_4you.html |
| 10:31.35 | antiphase | I had to save it because it was so unbelievable |
| 10:32.43 | goibhniu | d00d ... that wasn't a bot ... or my mom is a monkey |
| 10:34.16 | Ch0Hag | That's certainly different. |
| 10:34.19 | Ch0Hag | Porn! |
| 10:34.22 | Ch0Hag | Maths first |
| 10:34.28 | Ch0Hag | OK done, but then PORN. |
| 10:35.51 | antiphase | She forgot of course that for an indefinite integral there should be a constant of integration added to the result, but it was pretty good for a pron broker |
| 10:36.23 | goibhniu | her dad would have been proud |
| 10:50.22 | wethrin | antiphase: To be fair, many people conveniently forget the constant of integration |
| 11:02.23 | Ch0Hag | What's anti-spam? |
| 11:02.26 | Ch0Hag | Steak? |
| 11:02.34 | wethrin | STEAK! |
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| 11:04.37 | Ch0Hag | How long does it take to boil bacon? |
| 11:05.25 | antiphase | Depends how heavy it is |
| 11:05.35 | hali | boil bacon?! |
| 11:05.45 | goibhniu | yumm ... myco-spam |
| 11:06.15 | wethrin | Boil bacon!? |
| 11:06.22 | wethrin | One fries, or grills bacon. |
| 11:06.47 | antiphase | Only if it's sliced |
| 11:07.09 | antiphase | You can boil big chunks of dead pig for making tasty sandwiches with mustard on |
| 11:07.17 | wethrin | Hm, true. |
| 11:07.47 | goibhniu | my kind of car http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/knx/437261010.html |
| 11:08.15 | wethrin | nice description |
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| 11:23.32 | Ch0Hag | Eugh. |
| 11:23.35 | Ch0Hag | Never cook pasta without salt. |
| 11:23.48 | wethrin | I've never had a problem with spaghetti cooked in unsalted water |
| 11:23.59 | Ch0Hag | It tastes of boring. |
| 11:23.59 | antiphase | Never eat pasta without copious quantities of cheese |
| 11:24.11 | Ch0Hag | It has lots of cheese. That is its one saving grace. |
| 11:24.13 | wethrin | Ch0Hag: Ahh. I make up for that with tasty SAUCE |
| 11:24.13 | Ch0Hag | Blue cheese. |
| 11:24.49 | Ch0Hag | And extra mature cheddar from Cornwall. |
| 11:26.18 | Ch0Hag | The bacon, btw, is Very Heavy. |
| 11:26.34 | Ch0Hag | But that's OK because it needs to feed 8 people. |
| 11:27.36 | Leeds | sushi! |
| 11:28.16 | wethrin | FISH! |
| 11:28.17 | Ch0Hag | Yeah pigs might, uh, swim? |
| 11:28.52 | Leeds | sushi and Top Gear! :-) |
| 11:29.03 | wethrin | The African Special? |
| 11:29.30 | Leeds | yup |
| 11:29.35 | wethrin | That's a good'un |
| 11:30.30 | Leeds | just started it... |
| 11:30.56 | wethrin | I'm not going to spoiler it, then. |
| 11:31.03 | wethrin | Just saying that it's a good episode |
| 11:31.56 | Ch0Hag | If I press triangle (which runs xmms-pause) or run xmms-pause directly, xmms pauses (or unpauses if it's paused already) |
| 11:32.16 | Ch0Hag | If I press C-M-Home, fvwm runs xmms-pause and it starts the track at the begining. |
| 11:33.23 | Ch0Hag | Why? |
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| 11:46.09 | Leeds | mmm... soft, tender salmon... |
| 11:53.22 | Leeds | serious question... what does sushi go for in the UK nowadays? |
| 11:53.53 | Leeds | e.g. for salmon sashimi |
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| 12:09.30 | Ch0Hag | Hey my question's serious! |
| 12:19.52 | jcookeman | I know here in London vendors adore their sushi |
| 12:19.57 | jcookeman | demand premium cash for it |
| 12:20.21 | jcookeman | even the hookers demand premium payiouts |
| 12:20.25 | jcookeman | this world is going to hell |
| 12:28.55 | Leeds | nice and affordable here |
| 12:30.58 | Leeds | obviously, I mean sushi... obviously. |
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| 13:26.07 | boudiccas | monring |
| 13:30.46 | z00dax | moin |
| 13:38.44 | boudiccas | z00dax; i started using that indian snuff that we talked about last night, its heavily scented with roses and its quite sweet too. totally different from the english ones that i'm currently using |
| 13:39.38 | z00dax | ah cool. |
| 13:40.02 | z00dax | not that i have any real idea about that sort of stuff |
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| 13:42.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Oi |
| 13:43.03 | zmey_g | Yo! |
| 13:43.08 | goibhniu | yoyo |
| 13:43.24 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; thanks for your email, i've just replied to it |
| 13:43.52 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I think I've done something horrible to both the ArchLinux installs :-( |
| 13:44.01 | goibhniu | D: |
| 13:44.15 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Thought you might like that, are you gonna flame him? |
| 13:44.25 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; if i seem stilted in my reply its because i misread which peter it was from and thought that it was from someone who i dislike. and it wasnt until i'd sent it that i relaised which peter it was from |
| 13:44.34 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I still cant get GUI working on the main box |
| 13:44.54 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: tarnations |
| 13:45.11 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Updated the lappy last night and got loads of horrid warnings, I was too scared to restart it |
| 13:45.50 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I might wipe the PC install of Arch and do a re-install |
| 13:46.14 | goibhniu | did you try nuking xorg.conf? |
| 13:46.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Thats OK everyone hates me! Its good to know where you stand :-D |
| 13:47.13 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Yeah, even hooked up a 17" CRT I have knocking around in the loft |
| 13:47.38 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Thats because someone said it might be the KVM causing trouble |
| 13:47.56 | goibhniu | that sucks |
| 13:48.15 | goibhniu | I learnt a couple of things recently |
| 13:48.20 | goibhniu | xrandr -q |
| 13:48.30 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Mind you its like "Shit off a shovel" with no GUI ;-) |
| 13:48.37 | goibhniu | should tell you what monitors it thinks is plugged in |
| 13:49.11 | boudiccas | hmmm |
| 13:49.15 | goibhniu | can you pop on later and try to debug it? |
| 13:50.04 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: hwd -xa should have worked but it failed |
| 13:50.27 | goibhniu | that's an arch thing innit |
| 13:50.42 | goibhniu | snuff |
| 13:50.44 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: lol yep Voodoo to you |
| 13:51.53 | goibhniu | that prolly dumps an xorg.conf on ya |
| 13:52.52 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: What I could do with is a feature that used (Might still be there?) to be on Debian, something-reconfigure |
| 13:53.01 | Ch0Hag | Meh youth wasn't all it's cracked up to be. |
| 13:53.18 | Ch0Hag | Now, a job and the income that comes with it, that's something to miss. |
| 13:53.26 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Basically you could run the 'setup' again |
| 13:53.50 | boudiccas | snuff |
| 13:53.55 | Ch0Hag | Does anyone have a spare job they could give me? |
| 13:53.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Huff |
| 13:54.01 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: that also dumps an xorg.conf on yo ass |
| 13:54.04 | Leeds | Ch0Hag: I've only got the one |
| 13:54.06 | Ch0Hag | Or perhaps an agency with at least a sliver of decency wherein one might be found. |
| 13:54.15 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:54.28 | Ch0Hag | boudiccas: Yeah, I know, I'm a comedian. |
| 13:54.39 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I have xorg.conf file coming out my ears |
| 13:54.50 | goibhniu | nuke it .. xrandr -q |
| 13:55.11 | Ch0Hag | The latest batch of agencies I've browsed don't even bother to spam me. |
| 13:55.16 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Will have to wait till tonight |
| 13:55.52 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: will you able to be online for it? |
| 13:57.25 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: sort of I can Alt+F2 for a normal user login the problem is if I do startx and it half works I'm stuck and have to reboot blind |
| 13:58.27 | Ch0Hag | Get another machine and run sshd. |
| 13:58.45 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I was thinking of enableing sshd that should let me login from the windows box which will not support X forwarding |
| 13:59.01 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: Too late already there :-P |
| 13:59.04 | Ch0Hag | It can if you want it to. |
| 13:59.08 | goibhniu | as long as you have a shell you can do things |
| 13:59.28 | goibhniu | and if you're online we can use curse words |
| 13:59.46 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Its really difficult to explain you have to see it to see what I'm saying |
| 14:00.34 | dick_turpin | If X fails totally then I get dropped back to the shell with "Fail to connect" blah blah blah |
| 14:00.50 | goibhniu | that's ok ... you can copy and paste from putty |
| 14:01.02 | goibhniu | all that stuff is logged |
| 14:01.05 | dick_turpin | If it part works I'm left with a sort of tinted (Black) blank screen |
| 14:02.09 | dick_turpin | But the strange thing is there must be a terminal behind the blank screen because I can type shutdown -r now and it works (Re-boot that is) |
| 14:03.01 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; have you tried ctrl+alt+backspace??? |
| 14:03.08 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: you can type "killall xorg" than with much better effect |
| 14:03.09 | dick_turpin | Ch0Hag: I ave two boxes on a KVM switch 1 Win XP the other Linux |
| 14:03.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yep no joy |
| 14:03.49 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Aha! but dont I need a PID number for that? |
| 14:03.55 | zmey_g | no |
| 14:04.03 | boudiccas | what happens if you try restartx |
| 14:04.23 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Right thats test number 3087 then |
| 14:04.42 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Aaah Thats another new one on me |
| 14:04.50 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; what happens if you try restartx |
| 14:05.20 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I just told you, Doh! |
| 14:05.42 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: i had lots of troubles with my xorg, "killall xorg" from sshd worked for me |
| 14:06.33 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Ah so does that work directly? e.g. on the actual box or is it an ssh associated command? |
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| 14:07.40 | zmey_g | it works both ways |
| 14:08.26 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Ah good will try that if I get snotted up again |
| 14:09.15 | zmey_g | just type # killall xorg from shell or sshd shell and it should clear the screen and through you back to the prompt |
| 14:11.29 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'll be back on around 7.00pm ish is that any good to you? |
| 14:11.45 | goibhniu | superb! |
| 14:12.22 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I have with me now the openSUSE 3.1 xorg.conf is it worth you looking at that? |
| 14:13.05 | goibhniu | if it works on the same box ... it will be handy for reference |
| 14:13.31 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Right hows this 'paste bin' voodo work? |
| 14:13.48 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: check Xorg.0.log I had problems with fonts, drivers and section Monitor HorizSync and refresh options. all of these might kill X |
| 14:14.10 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: go to your favourite paste bin ... e.g. http://rafb.net/paste/ |
| 14:14.40 | goibhniu | paste what you want into the box ... hit the button .. then paste the url into the interweb chat |
| 14:14.44 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Stuff that I'll mail it, I've had enough of complicated |
| 14:14.57 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: it's leet |
| 14:15.13 | goibhniu | but mail works too |
| 14:15.19 | antiphase | killall init |
| 14:15.26 | wethrin | innit! |
| 14:15.32 | zmey_g | antiphase: :) |
| 14:15.46 | dick_turpin | I tried innit 3 but that failed :-( |
| 14:17.26 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; sounds like the instllation is borked!!! :( |
| 14:17.48 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Just emailed it to you as an attachment |
| 14:18.36 | antiphase | `telinit 3` as root might be more helpful if yu want to change runlevel |
| 14:19.00 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yeah that was my thoughts I reckon I missed something while installing X |
| 14:19.14 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: lovely ... at 7 it's going into pastebin for everyone join in the fun |
| 14:19.46 | dick_turpin | antiphase: As I said earlier all I want is to get back to a terminal if startx only partly works |
| 14:20.38 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: See that xorg works fine on the same machine but with the SUSE drive attached |
| 14:20.49 | antiphase | Ctrl-Alt-F1 |
| 14:21.25 | dick_turpin | antiphase: What will that do? (I don't know) |
| 14:22.08 | antiphase | Switch to the first tty, usually |
| 14:22.26 | antiphase | Ctrl-Alt-F7 will often take you back into X, depending on how your system is set up |
| 14:22.36 | dick_turpin | If I do startx while on F1 and I try Alt+F2 I get another display but cant see it |
| 14:22.39 | antiphase | (or even Alt-F7 in a tty) |
| 14:23.26 | antiphase | That probably means your helpful distro people only bound one tty. Nothing to stop you doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 and pressing ^C or ^Z to stop X |
| 14:24.02 | antiphase | It's quite funny when people leave tty1 logged in and you can bounce their machine out of X, alter their .bash_profile then switch back to X |
| 14:24.22 | antiphase | Option DontVTSwitch 4tw |
| 14:24.45 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Hm OK, I'll leave it there as we will talk in circles for hours because the machine is at home |
| 14:24.45 | Ch0Hag | wtf? |
| 14:24.49 | Ch0Hag | That sounds like an evil option. |
| 14:24.56 | antiphase | Nothing like black text on a black terminal to keep the n00bs guessing on a Monday morning |
| 14:25.23 | Ch0Hag | startx&exit hardly takes effort. |
| 14:25.30 | dick_turpin | The big "Stop dick_turpin going blind" event is at about 7 pm ish tonight |
| 14:25.45 | jcookeman | antiphase: you're evil!! |
| 14:26.06 | dick_turpin | antiphase: You're a very cruel man with an evil sense of humour |
| 14:26.19 | antiphase | Welcome to my world, suckas |
| 14:28.41 | zmey_g | killall antiphase |
| 14:28.48 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Lol got your reply, as you say very stilted, was you frightened that I might charge by the word? |
| 14:30.06 | goibhniu | 30667 ? Z 0:00 antiphase |
| 14:30.26 | wethrin | BRANES? |
| 14:36.21 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; did you see my pm ??? |
| 14:37.15 | dick_turpin | Oops one sec trying to sell something |
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| 15:53.12 | niv_one_three | I am considering AGAIN wether to go back to Uni and really get my degree this time |
| 15:53.28 | niv_one_three | spent four years - and didnt get past second year |
| 15:53.37 | jcmlUK | wouldn't bother. full of fucking students. |
| 15:53.45 | niv_one_three | wondering if it is actually worth it |
| 15:54.32 | niv_one_three | how much of my life time - should I "spend" on getting an Eng dgree? 7? 8? hmm... |
| 15:54.47 | jcmlUK | doubt it's worth it. unless you're in a job that sucks wang and can't get out without a meaningless bit of paper. |
| 15:54.52 | niv_one_three | while getting work now - is not such a big problem... |
| 15:55.36 | niv_one_three | I am already well in to advanced linux administration |
| 15:55.47 | niv_one_three | as well as some scripting , |
| 15:56.01 | jcmlUK | yeah, but is that your job? |
| 15:56.41 | niv_one_three | well, my original craft is Electronics, and R&D in it |
| 15:57.25 | niv_one_three | but it is hard to work in R&D with no piece of paper |
| 15:57.47 | niv_one_three | yet I allready "lost" enoutgh time .. |
| 15:58.28 | niv_one_three | jcmlUK, thanks |
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| 16:00.02 | jcmlUK | niv_one_three: np |
| 16:00.31 | jcmlUK | it was a real waste of 3 years of my life, and I can't recommend it full time to anyone :) |
| 16:02.41 | antiphase | I quite enjoyed getting wasted and not doing much for 3 years |
| 16:02.53 | antiphase | I've almost paid it off 5 years after I left as well :O |
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| 16:28.44 | niv_one_three | did you all study CS? |
| 16:29.12 | wethrin | No |
| 16:29.17 | wethrin | Well, I did for one year |
| 16:30.21 | zmey_g | guys, shall i wait for half an hour before resync finish creating RAID1 when installing debian , or can i carry on with system install? |
| 16:30.44 | wethrin | It should DTRT if you just carry on and do it |
| 16:30.54 | wethrin | If you want to feel safe and secure, though, you may as well wait |
| 16:31.40 | zmey_g | wethrin: last time i tried without waiting and fail to install grub |
| 16:32.25 | zmey_g | so i might wait as no clear explanation in my howto |
| 16:34.59 | niv_one_three | wethrin: so - would you advice a normal human to invest yet four more years to earn a mechanical eng. degree these days? |
| 16:35.24 | wethrin | Yes, if you want to do mechanical eng. from a more theoretical point of view |
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| 16:46.21 | niv_one_three | time to go home |
| 16:46.25 | niv_one_three | bye for now |
| 16:55.30 | wethrin | ~coffee |
| 16:56.36 | wethrin | bah, ibot's rubbish |
| 17:00.45 | goibhniu | xteddy: get wethrin coffee |
| 17:00.46 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:01.20 | wethrin | hum. xteddy grins inanely, but isn't any use |
| 17:02.07 | goibhniu | utilitarianist! |
| 17:05.05 | wethrin | ibot: OI |
| 17:05.06 | ibot | I have a name you know. |
| 17:05.10 | wethrin | heh |
| 17:05.32 | wethrin | ibot: coffee |
| 17:07.47 | wethrin | ibot smells of poo and wee |
| 17:08.01 | jcookeman | ibot suck me |
| 17:08.02 | ibot | ACTION sucks jcookeman's cheek |
| 17:08.08 | wethrin | :) |
| 17:08.53 | wethrin | ibot insult xteddy |
| 17:08.57 | xteddy | :) |
| 17:09.21 | goibhniu | xteddy stand up for yourself! |
| 17:09.24 | wethrin | ibot insult xteddy |
| 17:24.00 | antiphase | I have difficulty articulating quite how much irrational hatred I have for xteddy |
| 17:25.32 | wethrin | antiphase: Yes - there's something about it, isn't there? |
| 17:25.43 | wethrin | Maybe it's because it's not bitter |
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| 17:27.22 | goibhniu | I think he's dead |
| 17:28.13 | boudiccas | do you want me to lay him out and perform last offices on xteddy??? |
| 17:28.46 | goibhniu | are you going to cut open his belly? |
| 17:28.56 | wethrin | Dig out the perl innards |
| 17:29.42 | goibhniu | if it wasn't perl maybe we could use it for something else |
| 17:29.58 | goibhniu | something eeevil |
| 17:30.13 | boudiccas | everything stops for tea!!! :) |
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| 18:56.11 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Oi |
| 18:56.39 | goibhniu | eyup |
| 18:56.41 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; welcome back :) |
| 18:56.53 | goibhniu | oh boudiccas ... you're back! |
| 18:56.57 | boudiccas | and just to be fair, welcome front :) |
| 18:57.03 | dick_turpin | OK so I'm on the broken Arch |
| 18:57.06 | boudiccas | yes, it was tea time goibhniu |
| 18:57.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Euw thoughts of perl necklaces |
| 18:57.52 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; what happens if you type in restartx |
| 18:58.03 | dick_turpin | xrandr -q failed |
| 18:58.14 | goibhniu | what did it say? |
| 18:58.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Will try that in a sec |
| 18:58.32 | dick_turpin | 1 sec |
| 18:58.58 | goibhniu | is arch booted ... and at the other end of putty? |
| 18:59.01 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Can't open display |
| 18:59.21 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: No I'm on it now |
| 18:59.49 | dick_turpin | I mean yes its booted, no not on putty actually on the box |
| 19:00.22 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; ??? restartx ??? |
| 19:00.29 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: 's suse xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/ijqulj16.html |
| 19:01.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Right will give that a go but I may disapear for 3-4 minutes |
| 19:01.12 | dick_turpin | Ready? |
| 19:01.49 | goibhniu | if that doesn't work ... ps axf | grep X |
| 19:01.54 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: ROTFLMAO "Command not found" |
| 19:02.14 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: 1 sec then |
| 19:02.20 | goibhniu | what state are we in now? |
| 19:02.26 | goibhniu | screen has no signal? |
| 19:03.08 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: innit 3 I believe its the default for Arch |
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| 19:04.03 | goibhniu | ok but what is happening? |
| 19:04.22 | goibhniu | you have a terminal ... you can log in etc? |
| 19:04.27 | goibhniu | no X? |
| 19:04.33 | goibhniu | nothing on the screen? |
| 19:04.44 | dick_turpin | um how the bleedin hell do I get the text from F1 to F2? |
| 19:05.24 | goibhniu | I don't think that's gonna work |
| 19:05.39 | goibhniu | if it's an error we should be able to find it in the logs |
| 19:05.59 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: where are you ... what are you seeing? |
| 19:06.47 | dick_turpin | root F1 me (test) F2 grep shows tty1 through to 6 |
| 19:07.28 | goibhniu | ok ... so you're at the arch box proper .. not ssh |
| 19:07.42 | goibhniu | you can switch between tty1 - 6 |
| 19:07.44 | goibhniu | correct? |
| 19:07.56 | goibhniu | alt+F7 ... black? |
| 19:08.07 | dick_turpin | 1 sec |
| 19:08.18 | dick_turpin | Yes |
| 19:08.43 | goibhniu | ok ... but you can get back to tty1 |
| 19:08.57 | goibhniu | you are logged in at tty1? |
| 19:09.10 | goibhniu | when you run `startx` |
| 19:09.20 | goibhniu | what happens? |
| 19:09.28 | dick_turpin | Aha I understand, yes on F2 now (irssi) root is on F1 |
| 19:09.43 | goibhniu | ah ... on irrsi and all :) |
| 19:09.49 | goibhniu | who needs X anyway |
| 19:10.11 | goibhniu | but yes ... getting a look at the logs may be fun |
| 19:10.12 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Minimal configuration enough to get me here #gllug |
| 19:10.29 | goibhniu | ok give startx a shot |
| 19:10.39 | goibhniu | on tty1 |
| 19:10.56 | goibhniu | tty1 = F1 |
| 19:10.59 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Right that will kill me so I may be gone for a couple of mins |
| 19:11.05 | goibhniu | really? |
| 19:11.13 | dick_turpin | Ready? |
| 19:11.16 | goibhniu | can't you get back to irssi? |
| 19:11.18 | goibhniu | no one sec |
| 19:11.29 | goibhniu | how about ssh from the windows box? |
| 19:11.39 | goibhniu | we'll need to have a look at some logs etc |
| 19:11.58 | goibhniu | what may happen is that startx will fire up x |
| 19:12.07 | goibhniu | but your monitor will freak out and give up |
| 19:12.18 | dick_turpin | Failed to initialize3 core devices error 3 |
| 19:12.20 | goibhniu | but you should still be able to get back to tty2 |
| 19:12.26 | goibhniu | nice |
| 19:12.31 | goibhniu | you're still here |
| 19:12.46 | goibhniu | what happened? |
| 19:13.00 | dick_turpin | yes but if I do start gdm that will blank me out |
| 19:13.55 | goibhniu | have you got /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 19:14.07 | dick_turpin | 1 sec |
| 19:14.09 | goibhniu | if so, please move it out of the way for a minute |
| 19:14.56 | goibhniu | pacman -S xf86-video-vesa |
| 19:15.00 | goibhniu | make sure you've got that one |
| 19:15.10 | dick_turpin | right, startx I take it? |
| 19:15.28 | goibhniu | if you've got the vesa thing ... startx yep |
| 19:15.53 | goibhniu | if we're lucky you get a grey screen and an x pointer |
| 19:16.49 | dick_turpin | right it fell over with loads of module failures |
| 19:16.52 | goibhniu | nice |
| 19:16.57 | goibhniu | any clues? |
| 19:18.18 | dick_turpin | hm its telling me modules do not exist such as KB, Mouse ect |
| 19:18.25 | goibhniu | excellent |
| 19:18.46 | goibhniu | pacman -S xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard |
| 19:19.36 | dick_turpin | pacman -S xf86 should get the lot |
| 19:19.55 | goibhniu | did you run that command? |
| 19:20.48 | dick_turpin | no 1 sec |
| 19:23.04 | dick_turpin | Now the bloody downloads are failing |
| 19:23.17 | goibhniu | hot dang |
| 19:23.27 | goibhniu | but that's good news |
| 19:23.35 | goibhniu | that means you didn't have them |
| 19:24.11 | goibhniu | maybe you can flick to another repo |
| 19:24.21 | dick_turpin | no obviuosly not |
| 19:24.59 | dick_turpin | tryin g to figure that out now you'll have to bare with me flipping from tty2 to tty1 |
| 19:25.21 | goibhniu | no probs |
| 19:25.29 | goibhniu | I can offer some repos to you |
| 19:25.43 | goibhniu | maybe you can grab them from irssi logs? |
| 19:25.53 | goibhniu | to get from tty2 to tty1? |
| 19:26.31 | goibhniu | Server = ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/i686 |
| 19:27.07 | kjalil | right |
| 19:27.21 | goibhniu | Server = ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/mirror/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/x86_64 |
| 19:27.28 | goibhniu | sorry for 64 bit |
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| 19:30.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I'm in a right mess now brain is whizzing, this Arch is an i386 install I believe |
| 19:30.58 | dick_turpin | pacman is refusing to work |
| 19:31.00 | goibhniu | uname -m |
| 19:31.17 | dick_turpin | i686 |
| 19:31.33 | goibhniu | hmm .. what's up with pacman? |
| 19:32.20 | dick_turpin | extra is refusing to give me the files even from the bloody USA |
| 19:32.54 | goibhniu | how about http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.archlinux.org/core/os/x86_64 |
| 19:33.06 | goibhniu | well the german site is workin |
| 19:33.51 | dick_turpin | right 1 sec |
| 19:34.43 | goibhniu | you just need two packages .. does it help if I put them on ftp? |
| 19:35.28 | dick_turpin | no mate, Im getting a bit angry now, 1 sec |
| 19:37.44 | dick_turpin | Doh doh bloody doh! pacman -Sy 1st then pacman -S whatever |
| 19:38.11 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Right got em |
| 19:38.37 | goibhniu | star bars! |
| 19:40.44 | dick_turpin | nope |
| 19:41.20 | goibhniu | ok, what's up? |
| 19:41.52 | dick_turpin | looks pretty much the same message |
| 19:42.13 | goibhniu | but it did install those packages? |
| 19:42.37 | dick_turpin | yeah, mate shall we give up and I'll do a fresh install? |
| 19:42.46 | goibhniu | I don't think so |
| 19:42.55 | goibhniu | how about ssh from the other pc? |
| 19:43.06 | goibhniu | I'd like a look at the logs |
| 19:43.17 | dick_turpin | hm, hang on |
| 19:43.38 | goibhniu | or do you want to give me r00t? |
| 19:44.16 | dick_turpin | is it opensshd for the server? |
| 19:44.26 | goibhniu | sounds right |
| 19:44.53 | dick_turpin | right give me a min installing openssh now will get sshd in a sec |
| 19:45.29 | goibhniu | super |
| 19:45.31 | dick_turpin | I'd love to let you in but I'd have to log into the router and set up a rule for you |
| 19:45.51 | goibhniu | ah yeah |
| 19:48.32 | dick_turpin | firing up the windows box |
| 19:53.09 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: going to log out of irssi here and log back in from windows (hopefully) |
| 19:53.19 | goibhniu | ace |
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| 19:56.53 | goibhniu | wahey! |
| 19:57.08 | dick_turpin | ooh graphics this XP is pretty good ;-) |
| 19:57.21 | goibhniu | heh |
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| 19:58.36 | goibhniu | dick_turpin: can you pastebin Xorg.0.log? |
| 19:58.38 | dick_turpin | hm cant log in connection refused |
| 19:58.49 | goibhniu | oh ..hmm |
| 19:58.58 | goibhniu | did you start it? |
| 19:59.15 | dick_turpin | hang on need to find out how I can see if sshd is running |
| 19:59.20 | goibhniu | I assumed you were logging in through arch |
| 19:59.31 | goibhniu | prolly /etc/init.d/sshd start |
| 20:01.22 | dick_turpin | no its running had a look via htop |
| 20:02.14 | goibhniu | so you can't log in to the box with ssh? |
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| 20:02.17 | goibhniu | hmm |
| 20:02.39 | dick_turpin | No server refused connection, could it be my router? |
| 20:02.54 | goibhniu | could be your windows firewall?? |
| 20:03.39 | goibhniu | I doubt your router would do anything fancy .. dunno though really |
| 20:04.06 | dick_turpin | hang on perhaps I have to configure a file |
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| 20:06.45 | goibhniu | you could paste the logs into a paste bin from arch .. but the only way I can think is with screen |
| 20:07.59 | dick_turpin | mepis live cd runs fine GUI (Typical) I can reboot with that but time is running out I have about 50 minutes left |
| 20:08.34 | goibhniu | hmm .. I dunno .. that shoudl work though |
| 20:08.41 | goibhniu | go for mepis I think |
| 20:09.01 | boudiccas | mepis is a good live distro |
| 20:09.46 | dick_turpin | 1 sec then have to make a brew while that is happening |
| 20:11.16 | goibhniu | good idea |
| 20:11.42 | boudiccas | yes please dick_turpin |
| 20:11.59 | boudiccas | mine is a g&t please |
| 20:12.07 | dick_turpin | No sugar for everyone? |
| 20:12.29 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; so, are you going to use mepis as your desktop in place of arch linux??? |
| 20:12.51 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: No! go and stand in the coner |
| 20:13.18 | boudiccas | ah, is this all prt of your plan to get back into an arch setup with a gui??? |
| 20:13.28 | boudiccas | * part |
| 20:13.37 | dick_turpin | yes, nearly there |
| 20:13.43 | boudiccas | ah right |
| 20:14.18 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: pastebin url? |
| 20:14.40 | goibhniu | http://rafb.net/paste |
| 20:15.08 | goibhniu | ibot: pastebin |
| 20:15.09 | ibot | from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or http://rafb.net/paste/, or http://pastebin.com is usually painfully too slow and unresponsive to use, use one of the other pastebin sites, or dpaste.com is a very nice pastebin as well |
| 20:15.09 | boudiccas | ah shit, i've just OD'd on snuff and its burning my nostrils!!!! :(((( |
| 20:15.31 | dick_turpin | 1 sec |
| 20:18.35 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: done dick_turpin |
| 20:19.18 | goibhniu | great http://rafb.net/p/T6q3OV48.html |
| 20:20.31 | boudiccas | should line 15 be like that??? |
| 20:21.02 | goibhniu | well .. it's still complaining it has no drivers for the kbd or mouse |
| 20:22.11 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: I reckon we should admit defeat and start agian? He who runs away lives to a ripe old age |
| 20:22.36 | goibhniu | go for it ... it will take 20 mins anyway :D |
| 20:23.09 | goibhniu | I don't think it will change anything myself |
| 20:23.18 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Na we'll leave it for tomorow night the gaffer is getting techy |
| 20:23.38 | goibhniu | do you want to try one more thing? |
| 20:23.47 | dick_turpin | go on |
| 20:23.52 | goibhniu | hey .. actually have you rebooted it? |
| 20:23.57 | dick_turpin | no |
| 20:24.10 | goibhniu | well I was just going to say to try installing a rake of things |
| 20:24.17 | dick_turpin | go on |
| 20:24.19 | goibhniu | and killing x |
| 20:24.48 | dick_turpin | lets shut down mepis then |
| 20:25.20 | goibhniu | pacman -S xorg-server xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-video-vesa xorg-xinit nvidia-xconfig |
| 20:25.23 | goibhniu | no 1 sec |
| 20:25.34 | goibhniu | you'll need to drop it in ssh |
| 20:26.01 | dick_turpin | too late rebooting now |
| 20:26.36 | goibhniu | oh .. I thought you were gonna use mepis instead of windows |
| 20:26.54 | goibhniu | did mepis boot up ok? |
| 20:28.10 | dick_turpin | mepis yes, still no kb or mouse (drivers |
| 20:28.15 | goibhniu | hmm .. did you boot up mepis on the box and paste the log? |
| 20:28.21 | dick_turpin | yes |
| 20:28.24 | goibhniu | ah |
| 20:28.49 | dick_turpin | mounted /dev/sda3 |
| 20:29.14 | goibhniu | ok then |
| 20:29.14 | dick_turpin | cd /var/log yadda yadda yadda |
| 20:29.33 | goibhniu | how about pacman -S nvidia-xconfig |
| 20:29.39 | goibhniu | or is it game over? |
| 20:30.32 | dick_turpin | rotflmao xorg-server currently installing |
| 20:30.43 | goibhniu | !? |
| 20:30.50 | goibhniu | that would be handy :) |
| 20:31.07 | goibhniu | maybe it's updating? |
| 20:31.42 | dick_turpin | weird usually it say "already installed, overwrite y/n" |
| 20:32.19 | goibhniu | iirc when I installed arch I just installed something like firefox and it grabbed everything it needed |
| 20:32.48 | goibhniu | when it's up and running you have to do it again :) |
| 20:33.08 | goibhniu | to change it to 64bit heh |
| 20:33.24 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; document it in your blog, just in case you need to redo it in the future |
| 20:33.52 | dick_turpin | hm not complaing about kb and mouse, still failing, other bits missing |
| 20:34.05 | goibhniu | pacman -S xorg-server xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard xf86-video-vesa xorg-xinit nvidia-xconfig |
| 20:35.26 | goibhniu | I wonder if it fails to install something does it just skip it? |
| 20:35.37 | goibhniu | that would be rather confusing |
| 20:36.10 | dick_turpin | aha so we now have the black screen syndrome |
| 20:36.28 | goibhniu | that sound like a step up |
| 20:36.41 | goibhniu | is that courtesy of nvidia I wonder |
| 20:37.11 | dick_turpin | not really killall xorg failed screen still blank |
| 20:37.33 | goibhniu | ctl-alt-backspace ? |
| 20:37.45 | goibhniu | where are you tty1? |
| 20:37.51 | dick_turpin | now that worked, it didn't before |
| 20:38.00 | dick_turpin | yes tty1 |
| 20:38.09 | boudiccas | so, are you now at a terminal window |
| 20:38.14 | goibhniu | ah ... but you were in a blank screen on tty7? |
| 20:38.35 | goibhniu | did you get to the blank screen by running startx from tty1? |
| 20:38.40 | dick_turpin | dunno lets test again |
| 20:39.55 | goibhniu | ... 24 mins |
| 20:40.13 | goibhniu | and? |
| 20:40.16 | dick_turpin | hm its sort of locked up |
| 20:40.38 | goibhniu | ctrl+alt+F1 ? |
| 20:40.58 | goibhniu | dang ... I'll be that's nvidia |
| 20:41.06 | goibhniu | s/be/bet/ |
| 20:41.52 | dick_turpin | alt F7 produces a beep warning and nothing else |
| 20:42.17 | dick_turpin | remove nvidia? |
| 20:42.29 | goibhniu | hmm .. ctrl+alt+F1 does nothgin? |
| 20:42.37 | dick_turpin | hang on |
| 20:42.48 | goibhniu | you need ctrl from tty7 |
| 20:43.26 | dick_turpin | well that gets the text back but its in a tizzy fit |
| 20:43.35 | goibhniu | that's good |
| 20:43.48 | goibhniu | how about tty2? |
| 20:43.59 | goibhniu | it sounds like x is running |
| 20:44.17 | goibhniu | otherwise it'd slap you out of there |
| 20:45.07 | goibhniu | I'd try xrandr -q from tty2 now |
| 20:45.10 | dick_turpin | mate wife is getting really humpy will have to look at this tomorrow, thanks for tonight |
| 20:45.15 | goibhniu | okie |
| 20:45.20 | goibhniu | night night |
| 20:45.41 | dick_turpin | I'm gonna wipe the Fecking thing |
| 20:45.45 | goibhniu | heh |
| 20:45.51 | goibhniu | nuke it |
| 20:46.03 | dick_turpin | Yeah with a bloody big magnet |
| 20:46.25 | goibhniu | it was probably a ghost that gutsy left on the hd |
| 20:46.28 | dick_turpin | ttfn all |
| 20:46.42 | goibhniu | later dood |
| 20:46.48 | dick_turpin | goibhniu: Rotflmao |
| 20:46.48 | boudiccas | nn dick_turpin |
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| 21:48.17 | goibhniu | http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=guUnErBM5Bc (internet humour) |
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