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| 13:51.22 | boudiccas | welcome back dick_turpin |
| 13:51.38 | boudiccas | nice to see you, nice!!! |
| 13:54.34 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ha ha been busy getting stuf to fall over :-D |
| 13:59.58 | dick_turpin | hm wonder why my clock keeps changing time? |
| 14:00.02 | boudiccas | physical stuff or computer stuff |
| 14:00.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Website. Got GUI working on Arch install. finished time trials |
| 14:01.38 | boudiccas | ah, so now you're blogging it all :) i commend you |
| 14:01.50 | dick_turpin | http://cannon-linux.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=115 |
| 14:02.35 | dick_turpin | but the HTML is crap something is putting <><><> in there |
| 14:03.59 | boudiccas | oh, yes. looks most odd |
| 14:04.57 | dick_turpin | I can really show you what is happening but its as if there is an extra cell above the heading (Which there isn't) |
| 14:05.02 | dick_turpin | cant |
| 14:05.49 | boudiccas | i find it quite hard to read the individual time totals against that green backgrounds |
| 14:06.34 | boudiccas | but, that could just be me |
| 14:06.40 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Its all shit, I hate the presentation, I've really got the hump over it |
| 14:06.46 | boudiccas | [and no, i'mnot colour blind] |
| 14:07.17 | boudiccas | put it up and leave it then and then come back in a few days and redo it |
| 14:08.36 | dick_turpin | Yeah the times are not added up right either, I just added them up in, um, 10 base? but its 60 seconds to a minute ain't it! |
| 14:08.49 | boudiccas | yes |
| 14:09.16 | dick_turpin | I just don't have the time for this stuff its taken me two weeks |
| 14:10.22 | boudiccas | i'd use a pencil and paer to work out the times and ensure that they added up properly |
| 14:11.00 | dick_turpin | I'm surrounded by bits of paper |
| 14:12.40 | boudiccas | i've just added up the first one and it adds up right. i'd be inclined to leave it then as they are decimal fractions of a second after all |
| 14:13.22 | boudiccas | if people are really bothered, which they won't be, then they can try replicating your expereiments and seeing their own figures |
| 14:13.39 | boudiccas | its a good quality piece of work and well done. |
| 14:13.53 | dick_turpin | Ah I think the 1st one is OK but not the others, Now busy trying to figure out why openSUSE refuses to apply a patch the stupid thing says I need |
| 14:13.55 | boudiccas | don't worry about the decimal points of a second or minute |
| 14:14.37 | boudiccas | k, i'll try adding them up to see if i agree with your figures |
| 14:15.58 | boudiccas | second one i make to be 94,818 |
| 14:17.01 | boudiccas | mepis is correct |
| 14:18.03 | boudiccas | f8 i make 52.525 |
| 14:18.58 | boudiccas | and arch to be correct |
| 14:20.09 | dick_turpin | right, logging in to change the values then |
| 14:21.22 | boudiccas | can you change the background of the totals too so that they stand out more, perhaps also doing them as BOLD |
| 14:21.25 | boudiccas | ??? |
| 14:23.08 | dick_turpin | Now its gone Ape shit (You wont see it yet) F8 cells have jumped to the right |
| 14:24.02 | boudiccas | f8 always was a difficlt child |
| 14:24.32 | boudiccas | *difficult |
| 14:25.18 | boudiccas | her birth was marred by her sibling, f6, being taken of her life support machine |
| 14:26.51 | dick_turpin | hit refresh and take another look |
| 14:27.34 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; yes, thats much better |
| 14:27.43 | boudiccas | and afr easier to read. thnak you |
| 14:27.53 | boudiccas | my spelling is atrocious today |
| 14:28.03 | boudiccas | *far thank |
| 14:28.38 | boudiccas | so, F8 was the fastest to load then |
| 14:29.21 | dick_turpin | Thats mental, in the editor the time cells for F8 are shunted to the right yet it displays OK? |
| 14:30.22 | dick_turpin | Yeah that surprised me, I was bragging openSUSE was faster than ARchLinux |
| 14:30.29 | dick_turpin | Archlinux |
| 14:30.59 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; is it possible to align all the figures in the centre?? os is that too much for little gain??? |
| 14:32.03 | dick_turpin | maybe, looks like I might have fixed the <><><> ? |
| 14:32.47 | boudiccas | yes, the <> has dissappearred |
| 14:33.35 | z00dax | humm call of Duty4 on the ps3 looks absolutely amazing |
| 14:35.59 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; its all fine tuning and presentation but it does make the whole thing look better |
| 14:36.10 | dick_turpin | z00dax: I must get that for X360 brother in law has just offered to bring it over for me to look at |
| 14:40.13 | hali | x360 is an ibm server right? |
| 14:40.41 | z00dax | hali: yup |
| 14:41.15 | dick_turpin | hali: Xbox 360 :-D |
| 14:44.41 | dick_turpin | right I'm off ttfn |
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| 18:15.42 | goibhniu | not for me :( |
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| 19:45.39 | highbury | http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,139761/article.html |
| 19:46.21 | highbury | I've almost had to abandon gmail with firefox on windows, dur eto the crashes I've been having |
| 19:46.32 | highbury | now I know I wasn't alone! |
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| 20:37.39 | goibhniu | hmm .. that page isn't loading for me ... doesn't sound good though |
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| 20:37.53 | hali | hi, is this the road to salvation? |
| 20:38.02 | goibhniu | next door on the right |
| 20:38.06 | hali | cheers |
| 20:38.11 | hali | here have a bible |
| 20:38.55 | goibhniu | funny you should mention it though |
| 20:39.27 | goibhniu | I was thinking about the bible when I was making dinner, just a short while ago |
| 20:39.44 | goibhniu | maybe it's the seasonal weather |
| 20:40.44 | hali | kismet |
| 20:40.55 | hali | i have that affect on people |
| 20:41.24 | hali | the other day i had fish and chips for the first time ever (been in england for 5 years)... same day my workmate had it for the first time in ages too |
| 20:41.46 | hali | did anyone else thing about boobs a while ago? |
| 20:41.50 | hali | think* |
| 20:42.51 | goibhniu | not I ... and oddly not even after you said it |
| 20:43.45 | goibhniu | how were the fish and chips? |
| 20:44.01 | antiphase | Fish is grim. Pie > fish |
| 20:44.04 | hali | quite good i must say, i quite *hate* batter in general |
| 20:44.22 | hali | but this was very thin crustt batter, and kick ass tartar sauce |
| 20:44.40 | goibhniu | good vinegar? |
| 20:44.41 | hali | from the gastro pub "The princess" around old street |
| 20:44.48 | goibhniu | ahh .. posh |
| 20:44.50 | hali | didn't have vinegar on it obviously |
| 20:45.00 | hali | since that is just wrong |
| 20:45.02 | goibhniu | not even balsamic? |
| 20:45.17 | goibhniu | with a sprig of thyme? |
| 20:45.29 | hali | no |
| 20:45.35 | goibhniu | mayo? |
| 20:45.38 | hali | possibly just a little in a nice salad |
| 20:45.49 | zmey_g | Oh- religious talks! visited Tutankhamen today. |
| 20:48.07 | goibhniu | any good? |
| 20:49.29 | zmey_g | i expected to see his majesty in person, but not. |
| 20:49.51 | zmey_g | yes i enjoyed it |
| 20:51.05 | zmey_g | some of the artefacts were really interesting |
| 20:55.05 | zmey_g | Nifertyti for example was really beautiful ended, you can see it even from her statue. but her head was not like human head! I heard rumours - she is allien |
| 20:57.49 | zmey_g | They have simple explanation that this is family trait! joke, it can't be. All people i know that have such a head shape are people with special needs, not royalties. |
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| 20:59.55 | goibhniu | a lot of royalties have special needs I suppose |
| 21:00.26 | zmey_g | sure |
| 21:01.38 | zmey_g | I found Aphrodite CD among my old CD's. really nice tunes. |
| 21:02.59 | goibhniu | have you had a look for a web based ftp client since we last spoke about it? |
| 21:03.07 | zmey_g | no |
| 21:03.12 | goibhniu | I haven't either :( |
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| 21:03.31 | zmey_g | was busy a bit with my social status |
| 21:04.31 | zmey_g | Oh and another thing. I upgraded Mint Celena to Daryna wich is Ubuntu 7.10 based |
| 21:05.03 | goibhniu | impressive? |
| 21:05.04 | zmey_g | Upgrade was long but ok |
| 21:05.15 | goibhniu | F8 sounds cool |
| 21:05.20 | zmey_g | it's not that stable yet |
| 21:05.44 | zmey_g | F8? what's that? |
| 21:05.48 | goibhniu | fedora |
| 21:05.53 | zmey_g | ah |
| 21:06.14 | zmey_g | whats good about it? |
| 21:06.24 | goibhniu | e.g. it has some new sound thingy .. lets you set audio levels for each app separately |
| 21:06.32 | goibhniu | called "pulse" I think? |
| 21:06.53 | zmey_g | what the use of this? |
| 21:07.27 | goibhniu | e.g. some stoopid flash page in one of your tabs is making noise .. you can turn off sound for firefox but still listen to something else |
| 21:07.40 | zmey_g | cool |
| 21:08.08 | zmey_g | http://artistx.org/ check this |
| 21:08.30 | zmey_g | i think this is for you |
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| 21:09.40 | goibhniu | hmm .. no cinelerra :( |
| 21:09.58 | goibhniu | dyne:bolic seems to have a good set of things too |
| 21:10.07 | zmey_g | no it's there |
| 21:10.08 | goibhniu | but ram for a live-cd is a problem |
| 21:10.41 | goibhniu | dyne:bolic uses fluxbox too, which seems sensible |
| 21:10.44 | goibhniu | interesting though |
| 21:10.50 | goibhniu | you think cinelerra is on that one? |
| 21:11.17 | goibhniu | I just had a look at http://artistx.org/artistx_0.1_list_of_packages.txt |
| 21:11.59 | zmey_g | wait i saw it today on spmr distro |
| 21:12.03 | zmey_g | some |
| 21:13.41 | zmey_g | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.42 | zmey_g | 3D Graphic softwares: Blender, Wings3D, Kpovmodeler + Povray 3.6, K3D. |
| 21:14.07 | zmey_g | Video softwares: Cinelerra, Kino, Openmovieeditor, Kdenlive, Pitivi, Avidemux, Devede, and many others. |
| 21:14.41 | zmey_g | you see it's there |
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| 21:17.50 | goibhniu | odd, that it doesn't list it on the other page .. that's cool though |
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| 21:20.20 | zmey_g | http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/dvd/artistx |
| 21:22.07 | zmey_g | on their web site there are some useful links to the other multimedia distros |
| 21:22.12 | goibhniu | wow! .. the thing about powua is incredible |
| 21:22.19 | goibhniu | I never heard of that before http://www.powua.com/ |
| 21:22.43 | goibhniu | with that live cd it's all set up so you can hand rendering tasks over to powua |
| 21:22.45 | antiphase | No ancient UFS support! |
| 21:23.10 | Discordian | Anicent ufs? |
| 21:23.15 | Discordian | Ancient even |
| 21:23.27 | antiphase | I want to mount an old FreeBSD partition |
| 21:23.29 | hali | tried centos-extras? |
| 21:24.16 | antiphase | I'm looking in repositories. I never understand why kernel modules don't all just come with the standard kernel, it's not like they take up much space |
| 21:26.53 | zmey_g | goibhniu: amazing. the idea is old as the world we live in. but now you can use it, not SETI or folding@home |
| 21:30.44 | goibhniu | zmey_g: I've been wondering if there is a more open version of that |
| 21:32.53 | zmey_g | I have box with 1.8 Xeon Duo, and i really love the idea to use power of that beast on my laptop |
| 21:33.29 | zmey_g | goibhniu: clustering is a way forward |
| 21:36.01 | goibhniu | I heard a podcast with an interview with some serious cluster person |
| 21:36.50 | goibhniu | he was saying the trouble with getting people interested in it is that there are so few useful things the average person could do with it |
| 21:37.08 | zmey_g | agree |
| 21:37.31 | goibhniu | although maybe nobody has written the right apps yet |
| 21:38.18 | zmey_g | sending an email or browsing pron? what do you need more as an average human? |
| 21:39.34 | zmey_g | goibhniu: i think it's included in mac OS x 10.4 server by default |
| 21:39.49 | goibhniu | powua? |
| 21:39.57 | goibhniu | or pron? |
| 21:40.02 | zmey_g | no clustering |
| 21:40.22 | goibhniu | that's just iBullshit I assume |
| 21:40.24 | zmey_g | pron is useful eXtras |
| 21:40.36 | goibhniu | linux owns the HPC market |
| 21:41.01 | zmey_g | what about FreeBSD than? |
| 21:41.04 | hali | ibm owns the hpc market |
| 21:41.17 | goibhniu | I assume it's just the apps you run that counts |
| 21:41.31 | hali | with it's custom os on bluegene |
| 21:41.36 | zmey_g | everybody owns something but me |
| 21:43.01 | zmey_g | hali: what you mean by custom OS? |
| 21:43.50 | hali | zmey_g: the bluegene hpc nodes used in most of the fastest hpc systems in the world is a custom os, closed source written by ibm... i would guess it's got a shitload of bsd code though |
| 21:44.23 | zmey_g | interesting |
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| 21:48.37 | zmey_g | goibhniu: why don't you like Jobs's Apple? |
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| 21:49.23 | goibhniu | zmey_g: the apple corporation? |
| 21:50.07 | zmey_g | ok. i just want to hear other's people reasons |
| 21:50.27 | zmey_g | i know my reason what's yours? |
| 21:50.37 | Discordian | plan9 now there's a blast from the past |
| 21:51.21 | hali | Discordian: nah, it's all modern, they just ported it to bluegene :) |
| 21:51.34 | hali | since it supports light weight cpuservers i would guess itäs a great fit |
| 21:51.37 | Discordian | heh |
| 21:51.57 | Discordian | So doex L4 or mach |
| 21:52.00 | Discordian | does |
| 21:52.12 | hali | to bad the supported hardware list is about 3 lines |
| 21:52.25 | goibhniu | zmey_g: they have some nice products ... errr .. the mighty mouse .. apart from that I hate them, especially because of the way they try so hard to lock down and close out the user from the system |
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| 21:53.10 | Discordian | Yeah that was the problem I had with Plan9 |
| 21:54.32 | zmey_g | goibhniu: ohh how could i forget about mighty mouse. it's in the box still. ira never used it. |
| 21:55.00 | Discordian | nowt wrong with macs |
| 21:55.15 | goibhniu | zmey_g: you wanna sell it? |
| 21:55.54 | zmey_g | never thought about it |
| 21:56.00 | zmey_g | you want it? |
| 21:56.02 | goibhniu | zmey_g: they're mad expensive but they actually seem to be well designed |
| 21:56.08 | hali | Discordian: looks like plan9 works in xen |
| 21:56.28 | zmey_g | i will check it now |
| 21:56.47 | goibhniu | zmey_g: I might get her a wired one ... ~ £20 |
| 21:59.37 | zmey_g | ok i think it is very mighty mouse |
| 21:59.49 | zmey_g | with small button on top |
| 22:00.03 | Discordian | Hmmm I could run it in xen on the desktop then |
| 22:00.33 | zmey_g | goibhniu: do you want it for £20? |
| 22:00.50 | goibhniu | zmey_g: it would be robbery .. you'll easily get £40 on ebay for it |
| 22:01.12 | goibhniu | zmey_g: but thanks very much for the offer |
| 22:01.24 | zmey_g | goibhniu: so how much do you want for it? |
| 22:02.23 | zmey_g | goibhniu: it's in the wrapping still :) |
| 22:03.09 | goibhniu | zmey_g: hmm .. I'll see what the going price is for it on ebay and offer you that if you're sure |
| 22:03.31 | goibhniu | zmey_g: we were going to go into town and try out a load of mice just to be sure it was worth it |
| 22:04.35 | goibhniu | zmey_g: I'll get back to you about it in a week or so |
| 22:04.42 | goibhniu | I never used a trackball |
| 22:05.21 | zmey_g | goibhniu: no problem |
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| 22:05.28 | Discordian | I don't grok mice, I turn em upside down |
| 22:05.35 | aguaithe2reak | how can I get my nickname back? |
| 22:05.40 | aguaithe2reak | help |
| 22:05.45 | zmey_g | goibhniu: A1152 it is mighty |
| 22:06.37 | goibhniu | zmey_g: the ball on the top .. is that actually a ball .. or something like a trackpad surface? |
| 22:06.58 | goibhniu | if it's a ball, it's a bit silly |
| 22:07.02 | zmey_g | to make your conciousness feel good i'm ready to flog it for £30 |
| 22:07.25 | goibhniu | if you put it on ebay for 30 it will go straight away |
| 22:07.31 | zmey_g | goibhniu: it.s small like button more |
| 22:07.59 | zmey_g | http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Wired-Mighty-Mouse-NEW_W0QQitemZ220171257721QQihZ012QQcategoryZ79877QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 22:08.14 | zmey_g | like that |
| 22:08.29 | goibhniu | yours is wireless though .. .right? |
| 22:08.41 | zmey_g | yes |
| 22:08.53 | goibhniu | yeah ... I've been wondering because it's hard to tell from the pictures or the marketing blurb |
| 22:08.59 | zmey_g | copy of that picture link |
| 22:09.17 | zmey_g | so you want it? |
| 22:10.58 | goibhniu | hehe .. for £30 ... definitely :D |
| 22:11.21 | zmey_g | sold!!! |
| 22:11.44 | goibhniu | I would probably give you £40 or so if you wait a week or so |
| 22:12.03 | goibhniu | at the moment I'd like to see one in the flesh .. but for £30 I can always sell it |
| 22:12.11 | zmey_g | you gave me beer already |
| 22:12.24 | goibhniu | free beer :D |
| 22:12.33 | zmey_g | you see! |
| 22:13.04 | zmey_g | so, next time i'm in London i let you know |
| 22:13.41 | goibhniu | ah brilliant |
| 22:13.53 | goibhniu | cheers dude |
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| 23:55.16 | z00dax | goibhniu: is it ? |
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| 23:55.50 | goibhniu | z00dax: http://blacktree-alchemy.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/Quicksilver |
| 23:55.57 | goibhniu | apache licence |
| 23:55.59 | z00dax | i know they did some stuff with code.google.com |
| 23:56.05 | z00dax | but that didnt build really diid it ? |
| 23:56.14 | z00dax | have you tried to build it ? |
| 23:56.18 | goibhniu | oh .. this is the first I've heard of it |
| 23:56.27 | goibhniu | and I assume it has lots of osx junk in there |
| 23:56.43 | z00dax | yeah, it would / could |
| 23:56.58 | z00dax | but still would be worth looking at I suppose |
| 23:57.07 | z00dax | but give it a shot, let us know how you get along |
| 23:57.12 | goibhniu | hehe |
| 23:57.18 | z00dax | also, might need to recreate all the app links |
| 23:57.20 | goibhniu | I wasn't even considering trying to build it |
| 23:57.59 | z00dax | does gnome-launch-box let you do applets ? |
| 23:58.16 | goibhniu | like .. add plugins to it? |
| 23:58.26 | z00dax | yea |
| 23:58.34 | goibhniu | when I looked at the source .. it was all set up for it |
| 23:58.43 | goibhniu | with comments on how to add them etc |
| 23:58.45 | z00dax | like, let me do some stuff from within it and have it pass some calls to the apps it calls |
| 23:58.49 | z00dax | oh cool |
| 23:59.14 | goibhniu | I don't understand why gnome-launch-box isn't more popular |
| 23:59.23 | z00dax | people dont know about it |
| 23:59.25 | goibhniu | it does what it does, extremely well |