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08:26.51bilarhtop of the morning to ya!
08:29.24Leedstop of the late-afternoon to you too
08:31.17bilarh:D
08:31.56Armand|-_-Morning :)
08:32.34bilarhArmand|-_-: cheezus, what's that line noise at the end of your nick?
08:32.48Armand|-_--_- = sleepy
08:33.06bilarhriiight :-)
08:33.22Armand|-_-Oi!
08:33.36Armand|-_-I'm no kid.. >_<
08:33.47LeedsAsian-style emoticons
08:33.58bilarhhehe
08:34.27Armand|-_-(:0,
08:34.29Leedsseriously - it took me a while to work out what they meant - all the locals use them
08:35.37bilarhleeds: really?
08:36.00bilarhi only know the tie-fighter one:   (>o<)
08:36.25Armand|-_-|-o-|
08:36.36bilarhor like that :(
08:36.40Armand|-_-:)
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09:00.37keithlard_wooo
09:02.27Leedsevening lardy
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09:13.44niv_one_1hreehi all
09:14.06niv_one_1hreewhat is a light weight www browser that does do graphics?
09:14.30goibhniuepiphany is nice
09:14.50niv_one_1hreeright - thnaks - this was what I was looking for - 4got the name
09:15.23niv_one_1hreeNiv took the pill and needs to finish that C assigment - not write stuff on irc
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09:16.09Leedsniv_one_1hree: I can help you with that, if you want
09:16.43niv_one_1hreethanks leeds, I must do this one alone as other already sent it in
09:16.57niv_one_1hreeassigment2 was also publishe due 29
09:56.37Leedsyeah... I didn't mean help with the assignment.  I meant help getting of IRC :-)
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10:35.08jcookemanmornin' folks
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10:51.10jcookemanAny of you folks know if ZFS has any similar capabilities to Neapp's A-SIS?
10:52.03blightjcookeman: you mean NetApp :-)
10:55.27cpufreakjcookeman: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-code/2007-October/000712.html
10:55.38cpufreakdeduplication is on the want to hve list
10:55.42cpufreaknot yet implemente
10:55.43cpufreakd
10:55.52cpufreakdeduplication is for pikeys though
10:56.07cpufreakreal men just buy more storage :)
10:58.40jcookeman:D
10:58.44jcookemangood to know
10:59.25cpufreakcome back to me when you have a couple of petabytes of storage
11:00.17bilarhwe have a couple of petabytes of storage :)
11:00.18jcookemancpufreak: getting there
11:00.26bilarhall served via ha linux nfs boxes
11:00.47wethrinlinux NFS? You poor fellow
11:01.00bilarhit works really well for our setup, apparently
11:01.00wethrinOr does Linux not suck donkey balls at NFS any more?
11:01.07bilarhi don't get to touch them that much to be honest
11:01.17wethrinWell, Linux<->Linux I've found to work okay.
11:01.18bilarhi think nfs v3 etc is quite alright afaik
11:01.26wethrinLinux client connecting to a real Unix server is okay
11:01.48wethrinBut anything else connecting to Linux NFS server? More luck getting Tony Blair to tell the truth.
11:02.05bilarhwe're almost exclusively linux on computing nodes
11:02.10bilarhso that's not a problem
11:02.30bilarhsome old rs6000 stuff hanging around somewhere, but i haven't even seen them
11:02.45wethrinGive them to morsing :)
11:03.33bilarhhehe yeah he'd be pleased
11:03.46bilarhwhere is he nowadays anyway?
11:03.59wethrinAylesbury
11:04.04bilarhno but i mean on irc
11:04.10wethrinHiding around places :)
11:04.11bilarhor rather, why isn't he on irc :)
11:04.25wethrinTry a /whois morsing :)
11:04.47bilarhah, so he is :)
11:06.02cpufreakwethrin: thats not true.
11:06.13wethrincpufreak: which?
11:06.25wethrinConnecting anything to Linux NFS?
11:06.28cpufreakIBM have filters quite a few changes into the nfs client on linux
11:06.42wethrinAhh, okay. So it has then improved since I last used it
11:06.48wethrinAnd gave up on it :)
11:07.01cpufreak:)
11:18.07niv_one_1hreeok, I manaed to get some progress , but not in the assigment
11:18.17niv_one_1hreeI fixed the time table for studies
11:18.24niv_one_1hreeusing evolution
11:19.04niv_one_1hreedidnt have much luck syncing it to google calender, so I use a script to copress .evolution to a file and send it to gmail
11:19.13niv_one_1hreeany better idea guys?
11:19.41niv_one_1hreeI do think this pill is not working
11:35.09niv_one_1hreewethrin hi, how may I highlight lines with "niv_one" , is it a irssi command?
11:35.32wethrin/help hilight
11:35.47niv_one_1hreethnaks mate
11:35.58wethrinnp
11:36.13niv_one_1hreewhat do you use to amnage time?
11:36.25wethrinManage time? That's a novel concept :)
11:36.45wethrinI tend to use the awesome power of deciding what to do, then doing it. At some point.
11:38.04goibhniufor tracking time? ... gnotime is good
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11:38.55wethrinWhy procrastinate now when you can do it tomorrow?
11:40.53antiphaseWell, quite
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11:53.59keithlardsup holmes
11:54.13wethrinYo
11:54.56keithlardfo shizzle
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12:31.15dick_turpinwethrin: No luck with the keyboard I'm afraid :-(
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13:07.56wethrindick_turpin: Never mind, eh
13:08.00wethrinmorsing's bought one from the US now
13:08.21dick_turpinK
13:08.40wethrinthanks, though
13:09.09dick_turpinwethrin: np
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13:38.04goibhniuniv_one_three: dunno if you saw (or care) ... but I am pretty happy with gnotime for tracking time
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13:40.28goibhniudick_turpin!
13:40.48dick_turpingoibhniu: :)
13:40.52goibhniudick_turpin: I know you're kde to the bone .. but have you tried/heard of foresight linux?
13:41.14goibhniuhttp://www.foresightlinux.com/
13:41.27goibhniuthe conary package management thing sounds cool
13:41.28dick_turpingoibhniu: You're trying to tempt me away from the Dark side aren't you?
13:41.46goibhniuI've lost some faith in arch tbh
13:41.55niv_one_threethnaks goibhniu>
13:42.06niv_one_threethnaks goibhniu , does it sync to gcal?
13:42.56goibhniuniv_one_three: oh .. no idea
13:43.20goibhniuit's more for punching in and out .. to keep track of what projects you spend time on
13:43.38dick_turpingoibhniu: Beagle is a bag of shite, if you want to give away half your CPU then enable Beagle
13:43.42goibhniuit does have some other things .. but not really for project planing if that's what you're thinking
13:43.57goibhniudick_turpin: I hear ya
13:44.07goibhniubut conary dude!
13:44.13goibhniu6000 repos
13:44.18goibhniuyou can roll back any change
13:44.29goibhniuhave multiple versions of packages installed
13:44.31goibhniuetc
13:44.47goibhniusuper easy to create your own (apparenlty)
13:44.47niv_one_threeany of you ppl ever got a secenerio where running ppp0 creates aditional ppp1-6 ?
13:46.08dick_turpingoibhniu: Actually there is something wrong with the install on my Laptop the login seems to be, um, degrading, dying
13:46.49goibhniuzmey_g: you also like checkin out distros ... have you taken a look at foresight?
13:47.17niv_one_threeqsu
13:47.18niv_one_threezopa
13:47.22niv_one_threedhjoijpoje
13:47.31goibhniuxteddy: sick niv_one_three
13:47.32xteddy:)
13:47.38niv_one_threesorry...
13:48.05dick_turpinCan I join in?
13:49.08dick_turpinibot: hit bilarh "Well why not?"
13:49.10ibotACTION punches bilarh "Well why not?".
14:08.54dick_turpingoibhniu: Hm so how does Conary compare to Pacman or even yaourt, yaourt, apparently will even do /configure for you
14:09.50goibhniuyaourt!? .. I like it already .. whatever it is!
14:10.08dick_turpingoibhniu: 1 sec
14:10.52dick_turpingoibhniu: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=25718
14:11.17goibhniuok .. it's a gui for pacman
14:11.38goibhniuthere's a generic gui in the pipeline btw
14:12.53goibhniuhttp://www.packagekit.org/
14:13.20goibhniuso .. .conary was developed by some of the same people who originally created rpms
14:13.27dick_turpingoibhniu: Yeah (on both counts) however yaourt has/had a bit more functionality up until recently
14:13.35goibhniuvs packman?
14:14.02dick_turpingoibhniu: After a recent upgrade the repo's now incorperate AUR
14:14.50dick_turpinThe other advantage is the /configure stuff which I hate doing by hand
14:15.53dick_turpinI'm guessing that when it does /make /configure if anything is missing yaourt installs the missing bits or at least includes them
14:16.35dick_turpinOops /configure /make
14:16.38goibhniusurely you don't have to configure stuff on arch?
14:16.57goibhniuI've never installed a package from source on it though
14:17.03dick_turpingoibhniu: Anything from the AUR you do (I think)
14:18.08goibhniubbiab
14:18.15dick_turpingoibhniu: By the way we all need to change our nicks (Hint LugRadio)
14:26.43wethrinRargh
14:29.42dick_turpinwethrin: Roar
14:30.43zmey_ghi all
14:31.15zmey_ggoibhniu: no, i didn't check it yet
14:31.27wethrinHello
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14:39.23boudiccashello wethrin
14:39.48wethrinhi boudiccas
14:52.07dick_turpinboudiccas: :)
14:52.37boudiccasdick_turpin!
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14:59.20Ch0Hag_Is it wrong to drink gravy?
15:00.05boudiccasno
15:00.15zmey_gis it wrong to drink wine at afternoon time?
15:00.20Ch0Hag_Good.
15:00.23Ch0Hag_I like gravy.
15:00.25boudiccasyou can have a cuppa gravy instead of cuppa soup
15:01.07boudiccasi sometimes have gravy on my fish and chips! :)
15:01.37dick_turpinboudiccas: One of my daughters loves chips and gravy
15:01.55Ch0Hag_dick_turpin: Add cheese and it'd be Canada's addition to modern cuisine.
15:01.58Ch0Hag_And bloody tasty.
15:02.08boudiccasdick_turpin; its perfectly natural :)
15:02.31boudiccascheese chips and gravy from canada???
15:02.44boudiccasi like rice and cheese with gravy
15:02.56boudiccasin fatc thats tea tonight
15:03.00boudiccas*fact
15:04.33Ch0Hag_boudiccas: They call it poutine.
15:04.46dick_turpinI call it puke
15:04.49Ch0Hag_Actually they use milk curds not cheese if it's done properly but fast food places use cheese.
15:05.06dick_turpinPuke with carrots in
15:07.37boudiccasdick_turpin; stop it, please. i hate talking about vomiting and people doing it
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15:09.18dick_turpinboudiccas: Um Upchucking?
15:09.19boudiccasaguaithe1reak; i wish you'd stop bouncing around and become stable. then you could join in the conversations
15:09.46boudiccasdick_turpin; upchucking is acceptable :)
15:10.49boudiccasthe two things that i detested most in nursing was false eyes and false teeth. and my worst expereince was having to put the false teeth back in of a pateint who'd just died. i did it but hated oding it
15:10.53boudiccas*doing
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15:13.39boudiccasstinDj_IncT; afternoon marcus
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15:25.33boudiccasQ:  Why should you walk carefully when it's raining cats and dogs?  
15:25.33boudiccasA:  Because you might step in a poodle.
15:25.57boudiccas"There's nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won't cure."  --Jack E.  Leonard
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16:04.01dick_turpinboudiccas: Are you bored or something?
16:04.27boudiccasdick_turpin; i'm or somethign today
16:04.55boudiccaslol
16:05.36dick_turpinboudiccas: You're pissed again aren't you
16:11.54jcookemananyone know a good gnome applet to track forex?
16:12.27boudiccasdick_turpin; no, not today have to have a clear mind for the evening class
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16:13.51dick_turpinboudiccas: Wolves-Lug meeting tonight, where I shall be weeing on Ubuntu Laptops :-)
16:16.10boudiccasdick_turpin;  have fun!!! ???
16:18.10dick_turpinboudiccas: Yep then its the South Staffs meet on the 26th at Keele Uni
16:20.11boudiccasdick_turpin; do you get passouts for all these meetings from your guvnor??? :)))
16:22.01dick_turpinboudiccas: Ah, the misses has taken 3 weeks sick leave otherwise I couldn't get to the Wolves meets
16:22.49dick_turpinboudiccas: Gllug meets would be great for me seeing as they are on a Saturday
16:23.11boudiccasdick_turpin; apart from the distance and cost that is :)
16:23.37dick_turpinboudiccas: I'm waiting for an opensource time machine
16:23.43boudiccaslol
16:25.19dick_turpinboudiccas: You can laugh, if it has a Gnome desktop it'll want bleedin Evolution-Server
16:28.51boudiccasdick_turpin; :)
16:29.43boudiccasi avoid everything to do with evolution as i dont like its current look. when it looked like kontakt it was good but then they went and lost its good looks
16:30.13boudiccasand it wasnt as useful. it tended to crash and lose emails more than kontakt does/did
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16:32.37dick_turpinboudiccas: Kontact is my fav its installed on every Linux machine I have (um 5 or 6 I think).
16:33.27dick_turpinI wish Kontact would run natively on Windows without Cygwin ect
16:33.50boudiccasdick_turpin; are they breeding ??? that would account for you not knowing how many you have :)))
16:34.14dick_turpinboudiccas: na I'm just greedy
16:35.42dick_turpinboudiccas: I think its more than 6 I have some old Laptops lying around, under the stairs in the loft etc
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17:45.22goibhniuso ebuyer send me the "wtf= where's the future" "magazine" packed with offensive scantily clad women posing with microsoft keyboards .. pfft .. and there was I feeling all clever
17:46.03wethrinOffensive scantily clad women?
17:46.11wethrinTheir knickers say "FUCK OFF POOFTER?"
17:46.47goibhniuthey do
17:48.01goibhniuyou don't find it offensive?
17:48.12wethrinI don't have the catalogue
17:48.38wethrinI try to avoid being offended by things
17:48.49goibhniuxteddy: kiss wethrin
17:48.50xteddy:)
17:49.03wethrinExcept xteddy.
17:49.07wethrinBut it's on my /ignore list
17:49.12wethrinSo that's alright then
17:49.35goibhniusomeone needs to implement /ignore for IRL
17:49.51wethrinI find looking away and talking to other people works :)
17:50.16wethrinDAMMIT!
17:50.25wethrinJust printed something, and forgot to turn duplexing off
18:20.23goibhniuis the 64bit version of gutsy really called amd64?
18:23.17goibhniuapparently so
18:54.01keithlardgoibhniu: yeah we got the same magazine
18:54.23keithlardit upset our admin people so much they won't buy anything from ebuyer ever again, and they've complained to their pr people
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19:00.45keithlardit's no worse than you see at the average computer trade show. less bad, in fact
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19:28.30dick_turpinGreetings from Wolves-Lug
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20:03.15dick_turpinxteddy:
20:03.16xteddy:D
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20:26.56halihm, i dislike virgin.net more and more
20:27.11haliall tcp session over port 1024 gets *heavily* traffic shaped
20:27.23halii run ssh on 5020 and it gets pretty much unusable after 10 minutes
20:27.28haliport 22 works fine to the same host
20:27.45halione could think they simply assume everything over 1024 is torrents
20:31.25etorixhmm .. is it better out of 4pm-12pm?
20:31.53halihaven't tried ssh at that hour
20:32.02halibut i "at" all my ftp downloads after 12pm
20:32.06etorixthey do throttling after a certain mb-age
20:32.09haliand those are a lot quicker after that time
20:32.31halii don't think i download more than 100mb per day during peak hours
20:32.38etorixi use 65040 for torrent
20:33.42halii torrentflux
20:33.42etorixi have to be careful 4pm-12pm, i cant even get a bloody iso
20:33.47halion my colobox and just ftp it home
20:33.57halitorrentfluxb4 pwns
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