| 00:01.32 | keithlard | cpufreak: it is if your income puts you in the higher tax bracket |
| 00:09.40 | z00dax | keithlard: ! |
| 01:05.18 | wethrin | ROOOOOAAAAAR |
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| 02:07.20 | z00dax | wethrin: i take it the bread did get done then |
| 02:09.01 | etorix | Phase 1 would be mixing dough |
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| 03:13.52 | m3ga | anyone awake? anyone know when the december meeting og gllug is going to take place? |
| 03:14.32 | z00dax | m3ga: not sure |
| 03:14.47 | z00dax | there will be a drinks and social get together on the 21st I think |
| 03:15.01 | z00dax | but there prolly wont be a regular tech meeting for gllug in Dec ( AFAIK ) |
| 03:15.31 | m3ga | i live in sydney AU and i'm visiting london for 5-10 dec. i'm a member of slug here |
| 03:15.54 | z00dax | hey! |
| 03:16.01 | m3ga | i'll keep an eye on the website |
| 03:16.06 | z00dax | what you could do is write an email - send to gllug-social list |
| 03:16.28 | z00dax | and say that you are going to be in town during those days and perhaps some of us can meet up |
| 03:16.45 | m3ga | first i'll come here at a reasonable time (wrt GMT) and try again, then try the list |
| 03:17.14 | z00dax | yeah, that would be good. although life on here tends to be mostly just around office closing / pre dinner stages |
| 03:17.35 | m3ga | maybe my am would be best |
| 03:19.47 | m3ga | thanks z00dax i'll try the mailing list |
| 03:19.52 | m3ga | see ya! |
| 03:20.50 | z00dax | ta ta |
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| 08:30.48 | bilarh | ibot: seen goibhniu |
| 08:30.49 | ibot | goibhniu <n=cillian@87-194-222-145.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 4d 22h 34m 53s ago, saying: 'keithlard .. re: wtf ebuyer .. I'm glad to hear it .. I'm gonna send them some hatemail soon too'. |
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| 10:16.53 | hali | morning |
| 10:18.53 | Armand | Hiya. :) |
| 10:27.59 | bilarh | morning |
| 10:32.50 | Leeds | I hate a) Windows b) users |
| 10:33.13 | Leeds | c) Windows users |
| 10:35.10 | Armand | Thanks.. :( |
| 10:39.56 | Paul_UK | heh I'll never let go of XP. Linuzzz Desktop espically UbuntuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz sux0rz right now. |
| 10:40.04 | Paul_UK | Vista can die for all I care |
| 10:42.44 | bilarh | i love my linux desktop :) |
| 10:43.01 | Paul_UK | what distro? |
| 10:43.27 | bilarh | i use ubuntu at home and redhat as 4.3 at work |
| 10:43.35 | bilarh | gnome at home, kde at work |
| 10:43.39 | Paul_UK | ubuntu, blarrrraaaghhh! |
| 10:43.51 | Paul_UK | cant wait for kde 4.1 |
| 10:43.57 | bilarh | maybe we use our computers for different things |
| 10:44.13 | Paul_UK | agreed, i like my computers to work |
| 10:45.31 | bilarh | maybe if you were a better linux user, they would ;-) |
| 10:46.47 | Paul_UK | lol, not really. I have the same complaints as alot of other people do. They revolve around Flash Player, codecs, Compiz, Games, Office 2003/7 (openoffice sux), etc. |
| 10:47.02 | antiphase | u r shit AICMFP |
| 10:47.26 | bilarh | antiphase: that was back in the thirties, afaicr ;) |
| 10:47.30 | Paul_UK | I work with my laptop around 18 hours per day, I just couldnt work efficently with a linux desktop. Had to go back to XP. |
| 10:48.14 | Paul_UK | Linux rocks on the server, but maybe 2008 is the year of the desktop. who knows. |
| 10:48.15 | antiphase | I'd agree that there is no usable free office productivity suite, the rest is far superior to Windoze though |
| 10:48.22 | bilarh | paul_uk: fair enough, i'm not saying using xp is wrong... i just want my xterm, mozilla and emacs and i'm happy |
| 10:48.36 | antiphase | And of course iTunes |
| 10:48.48 | Paul_UK | iTunes, now who is shit lol |
| 10:48.51 | bilarh | and for those (maybe not mozilla), linux desktops are superior (in my opinion) |
| 10:48.56 | bilarh | and itunes too, that rocks |
| 10:49.04 | bilarh | i used to think it was shit, but that's because i didn't get it |
| 10:49.27 | Paul_UK | I have an ipod, cant live without it. but dont use itunes heh |
| 10:49.39 | antiphase | wfm |
| 10:50.03 | Paul_UK | wfm? |
| 10:51.00 | antiphase | Works For Me |
| 10:51.22 | Paul_UK | it works for alot of other people, doesnt stop it from being shit tho |
| 10:51.42 | Paul_UK | and quicktime |
| 10:51.48 | Paul_UK | ewwww |
| 10:52.43 | Paul_UK | lol in CentOS - [10:46] <vasco> i am in da SHIT |
| 10:54.35 | Paul_UK | has anyone seen the DX9 feature in Wine-doors? : http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/11/directx-90c-on-linux-with-wine.html |
| 10:54.47 | Paul_UK | not sure if its been ./ or the site is just borked |
| 11:06.54 | wethrin | bilarh: I run xterm, emacs, and Firefox under Win2000 |
| 11:08.44 | antiphase | Mad skillz right there |
| 11:08.45 | bilarh | wethrin: yeah i know you can, but i don't like it.. personal preference |
| 11:12.30 | wethrin | fair enough |
| 11:12.42 | wethrin | I have to use Windows in the department, so.... |
| 11:13.06 | wethrin | And using cygwin means I can do natty things with shell, ed, and awk scripts |
| 11:16.37 | bilarh | cygwin is so slow, though |
| 11:16.45 | bilarh | but the x server that comes with it is the dogs danglies |
| 11:27.50 | wethrin | It's a bit slow, but I've had worse |
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| 12:21.03 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hey dick head! |
| 12:21.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Hey |
| 12:22.23 | bilarh | how ya doin? |
| 12:22.56 | bilarh | ibot: dictionary uncouth |
| 12:22.57 | ibot | see dict uncouth |
| 12:23.03 | bilarh | ibot: dict uncouth |
| 12:23.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Not bad, trying to convince myself to buy two of those asus ee PC-L's |
| 12:23.44 | antiphase | ibot dict cunnilingus |
| 12:24.05 | bilarh | or as like to call it 'fish face' :P |
| 12:24.18 | bilarh | used as a verb, obviously |
| 12:24.39 | dick_turpin | sigh, I'm glad to see nothings changed then |
| 12:24.51 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what blimmin pc-l? have you been raiding your fathers whiskey cabinet again? |
| 12:25.07 | bilarh | dick_turpin: we love you too, welcome back :D |
| 12:25.43 | dick_turpin | bilarh: http://www.asuslaptop.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=Asus_Eee_PC_L |
| 12:26.12 | bilarh | dick_turpin: never seen it before in my life |
| 12:26.16 | dick_turpin | bilarh: They are the ones with 1024 Mb DDR II SD RAM |
| 12:28.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Oh nods, I thought you said nobs! |
| 12:29.00 | bilarh | in your dreams! |
| 12:30.03 | bilarh | mind your sides |
| 12:32.19 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Rotflmao "How much did you pay for the syrup?" |
| 12:32.36 | bilarh | dick_turpin: tada :D |
| 12:33.27 | bilarh | dick_turpin: check out the flickr stuff :D |
| 12:34.00 | bilarh | dick_turpin: everyone bloody thinks i'm gay all the time, pisses me right off |
| 12:34.27 | bilarh | this is sometimes heard in pubs and supermarkets "feck off, my hair's naturally blonde, i'm not gay" |
| 12:34.44 | wethrin | bilarh: Don't wear the earrings, then! |
| 12:34.49 | bilarh | usually, it's some woman saying it to me, but occasionally, i have to resort to it as well |
| 12:34.53 | bilarh | wethrin: earrings++ |
| 12:35.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Do you have "Beef" tattooed on your chest? |
| 12:35.29 | bilarh | dick_turpin: no, but what a splendid idea |
| 12:37.04 | dick_turpin | bilarh: All you need is some leather trunks, dark glasses, an oiled up body and you'll be singing with Erasure before you know it :-) |
| 12:37.16 | bilarh | hehe :D |
| 12:37.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh: What the bloddy hell am I looking for on your flicker? |
| 12:37.57 | dick_turpin | bloody |
| 12:37.57 | bilarh | i don't know :) |
| 12:38.08 | bilarh | probably because you're a saddo :P |
| 12:38.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You fat poof, you told me to look on it. |
| 12:38.41 | bilarh | dick_turpin: yeah but i'm an exhibitionist, dontcha know? |
| 12:38.50 | bilarh | i didn't think you'd actually figure out how to get there |
| 12:39.26 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You can "Teach an old dog new tricks" ;-) |
| 12:39.43 | bilarh | that's my mum you're talking about! |
| 12:39.57 | bilarh | er, i mean in the pictures |
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| 12:40.22 | bilarh | ibot: ~henrik |
| 12:40.26 | bilarh | ibot: ~bilarh |
| 12:40.34 | bilarh | ibot: whois bilarh |
| 12:40.43 | bilarh | i'm sure ibot used to abuse me when i did that |
| 12:40.43 | Leeds | ibot bilarh |
| 12:40.44 | ibot | somebody said bilarh was probably making a fool of himself, as usual, or mad, or a java monkey and abuses log4j, or not a cool dude, or a cool dude, apparently |
| 12:41.02 | bilarh | ty |
| 12:41.19 | dick_turpin | ibot: bilarh wears a wig |
| 12:41.44 | Leeds | ibot bilarh is also a kangaroo in a wig |
| 12:41.44 | ibot | Leeds: okay |
| 12:41.45 | dick_turpin | stupid ibot |
| 12:42.40 | Leeds | ibot tell bilarh about dick_turpin |
| 12:43.08 | bilarh | ibot: gee! he looks like one too! |
| 12:43.10 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Is Hilary Holt your mum? (She had to change her name once bilarh 'came out') |
| 12:43.24 | bilarh | who the hell is hilary holt? |
| 12:44.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I found her on you flicker stuff :-) |
| 12:44.52 | bilarh | ibot: wiki hilary holt |
| 12:47.49 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Is Harald your brother? |
| 12:48.16 | bilarh | dick_turpin: yes |
| 12:48.50 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Your mum likes him more than you |
| 12:49.25 | wethrin | I've still not seen last Sunday's |
| 12:49.39 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what a horrible thing to say ;-) |
| 12:49.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'm a horrible person :-P |
| 12:50.04 | bilarh | dick_turpin: lets get married! |
| 12:50.06 | wethrin | children, children..... |
| 12:50.29 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Are you speaking to me today? |
| 12:50.34 | bilarh | wethrin: shut it, grannie |
| 12:50.35 | wethrin | you and bilarh |
| 12:52.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Is that your wife with the fisherman? |
| 12:53.16 | bilarh | that sounds wrong :) |
| 12:53.25 | dick_turpin | bilarh: She likes the fisherman more than you |
| 12:53.32 | bilarh | lol |
| 13:10.13 | bilarh | i need another cool project i think |
| 13:10.18 | bilarh | can't think of anything though |
| 13:10.24 | wethrin | make ice cream |
| 13:10.38 | bilarh | har har :P |
| 13:10.45 | bilarh | i made that once as a chile |
| 13:10.46 | bilarh | child |
| 13:11.00 | bilarh | it was quite nice, but my parents never made it ever again |
| 13:11.02 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You made Chile? |
| 13:11.18 | bilarh | dick_turpin: see the correction underneath, chimp! |
| 13:11.22 | bilarh | chump |
| 13:11.42 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Are you Slarty Bardfast? |
| 13:12.02 | bilarh | i don't have a beard, and i don't design fjords |
| 13:12.51 | bilarh | hanging out here with you makes me feel like marvin |
| 13:13.18 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You're at it again, Marvin Gaye |
| 13:13.28 | bilarh | he wasn't actually gay-e, you know |
| 13:13.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh: No but you are :-P |
| 13:13.45 | bilarh | hehe |
| 13:13.56 | bilarh | damnit, the simple insults are still the best, and i'm 28 |
| 13:14.11 | bilarh | when will i ever acquire a more sophisticated taste? |
| 13:14.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You make it too easy for me |
| 13:14.31 | bilarh | you've got *WAAAY* more experience though |
| 13:14.38 | bilarh | gramps |
| 13:15.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Its taken years to achieve this haggard look |
| 13:27.53 | dick_turpin | Here's a good one. Whats the worst Christmas Bonus you've had or know about? I'll give you an example |
| 13:27.56 | dick_turpin | We have a plastic bag manufacturer up here |
| 13:27.56 | dick_turpin | A few years ago they gave all the workers a selection of? |
| 13:27.56 | dick_turpin | You guessed it, a selection of the bags they had been making all year |
| 13:27.56 | dick_turpin | When the staff complained the management said |
| 13:27.56 | dick_turpin | .They are so ungrateful everyone had £100.00.s worth of goods. |
| 13:28.20 | bilarh | hehe wtf plastic bags for chrimbo? |
| 13:28.32 | bilarh | good if you want to strangle yourself |
| 13:28.38 | bilarh | or if you're into extreme sex :-) |
| 13:28.46 | bilarh | with stockings and oranges |
| 13:29.24 | dick_turpin | They was serious, pedal bin, swing bin and garden refuse bags |
| 13:29.42 | bilarh | hehe man that *really* sucks :D |
| 13:30.16 | bilarh | i wonder who bagged the biggest bonus |
| 13:30.29 | dick_turpin | I worked at a place once that made everyone pay for the office party even if you didn't go |
| 13:30.44 | bilarh | hehe, nice |
| 13:32.20 | dick_turpin | My misses works for Foxes Biscuits they used to give a huge hamper, Turkey, cakes, chocolate, nuts, biscuits yadder yadder yadder |
| 13:32.53 | dick_turpin | But HSE stopped most of it, now we just get Biscuits |
| 13:33.35 | bilarh | what was the HSE risk identified? heart attack? |
| 13:34.28 | dick_turpin | Salmonella |
| 13:35.42 | dick_turpin | It was fantastic, if you was a cheap skate you could of had a pretty good dinner with it |
| 13:35.55 | dick_turpin | You'd only have to buy some veg |
| 13:36.15 | bilarh | salmonella ffs |
| 13:36.19 | bilarh | give me strength! |
| 13:36.41 | bilarh | i *hate* HSE - it's almost all a bunch of twaddle |
| 13:36.45 | dick_turpin | The one year she got two hampers by mistake |
| 13:37.10 | bilarh | and it's mostly governed by little hitlers who feel they need to assert their "authority" |
| 13:37.12 | dick_turpin | you should have seen the slagging off she got |
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| 13:43.48 | dick_turpin | Hooray!! here comes me famous 10 Laptop order, That's four times this year :) :) |
| 13:44.17 | bilarh | congratulations! |
| 13:44.21 | bilarh | the next round is yours |
| 13:50.59 | boudiccas | why does dick_turpin have a turkey under his wing??? |
| 13:51.46 | boudiccas | and, why has dick_turpin got wings in the first place ???? |
| 13:52.13 | wethrin | he's been drinking red bull |
| 13:52.29 | boudiccas | i'm getting some red bull snuff! :) |
| 13:52.37 | boudiccas | red bull with vodka chasers |
| 13:52.57 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:05.27 | dick_turpin | "I could'a been a contender" Oh hang on that was Raging Bull! |
| 14:06.32 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; hooray, he's awake :) |
| 14:13.09 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You love godess :) |
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| 14:55.19 | dick_turpin | yawn |
| 15:04.30 | dick_turpin | Rotflmao I just love reading my Quarantined mail. BenitoWhackingRod |
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| 15:41.04 | bilarh | ffs, someone's pressed the pause time button today, or what? |
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| 16:55.46 | etorix | morsing! |
| 16:55.52 | wethrin | too late |
| 16:56.01 | etorix | good |
| 16:56.08 | wethrin | :) |
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| 16:57.59 | wethrin | hi morsing |
| 16:58.03 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 16:58.17 | boudiccas | morsing! |
| 16:58.24 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 16:58.36 | boudiccas | thats my name, use your own! :) |
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| 17:20.47 | hali | friendly chap |
| 17:51.14 | Leeds | my filesystem, she is not (completely) dead! |
| 17:52.44 | Leeds | I have at least partially reincarnated my fileserver, booted from a USB key and with one of the hard drives sitting on the table next to it, using a USB->SATA adapter |
| 17:53.22 | Leeds | at this point, a sensible man would start backing stuff up... I am not a sensible man, so I have gone to bed to watch Futurama :-) |
| 17:55.27 | wethrin | Eh. Just re-download it all :) |
| 17:55.53 | Leeds | it's got approximately 1.35TB of storage |
| 17:56.18 | Leeds | disk is cheap, right? :-) |
| 17:56.46 | Leeds | http://www.hkgolden.com/hardware_price/harddisk.asp |
| 17:56.55 | wethrin | indeed |
| 18:09.24 | rhowe | http://www.whitcombe.org.uk/files/Christmaswishes.jpg |
| 18:10.37 | wethrin | heh |
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| 18:23.56 | highbury | my head hurts, I've decided I'm probably going to buy a Shuttle PC a "SG33G6 Deluxe" but I can't understand the choice of memory I can buy. I want to buy 2 x 2Gb DDR2 memory, but don't understand the diference between them all |
| 18:24.48 | wethrin | Have you tried Crucial's memory selector? |
| 18:26.18 | highbury | The only ones Shuttle have approved and tested are |
| 18:26.26 | highbury | DDR2 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ(ROHS) |
| 18:26.31 | highbury | DDR2 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL6D-4GBMQ(ROHS) |
| 18:26.38 | highbury | DDR2 2GB Transcend PC6400 Samsung K4T1G084QA-ZCE6 |
| 18:26.48 | wethrin | Different clockings? |
| 18:27.10 | highbury | but is CL5 better than CL6? |
| 18:27.25 | wethrin | not inherently |
| 18:27.55 | wethrin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM |
| 18:29.26 | wethrin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAS_latency |
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| 18:33.21 | wethrin | You need to make sure the latency matches |
| 18:33.29 | wethrin | So use CL5 or CL6. But don't mix them |
| 18:34.16 | highbury | yep, I understand I need to buy them as a pair |
| 18:34.36 | wethrin | What's the price difference? |
| 18:41.31 | kjalil | highbury: as wethrin said, try using crucial's memory selector. it's quite good |
| 18:41.53 | highbury | ahh, but I wanted to buy everything from Overclockers UK and they don't list any of them! |
| 18:42.10 | highbury | Crucial doesn't match the system |
| 18:42.30 | kjalil | highbury: do you know the motherboard model in the system? crucial might match it? |
| 18:54.23 | highbury | prices from crucual quite expensive 4GB kit (2GBx2), 240-pin DIMM, DDR2 PC2-6400 memory module CT724544 £137 |
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| 19:20.01 | kjalil | highbury: my boss is saying someone told him something wierd: that having reverse dns setup properly is a security risk?? |
| 19:20.20 | kjalil | i thought you must have it setup properly for your domains? |
| 19:22.08 | kjalil | anyone? |
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| 19:24.40 | dick_turpin | kjalil: You need to speak with wethrin he knows more than me, but yes reverse lookup is a must |
| 19:25.13 | kjalil | dick_turpin: hi, how are you? |
| 19:26.16 | dick_turpin | kjalil: OK when my terminal is not locking up :-) |
| 19:26.42 | kjalil | dick_turpin: terminal as in xterm-type terminal? |
| 19:27.31 | dick_turpin | irssi |
| 19:27.33 | wethrin | rDNS is a Bloody Good Idea |
| 19:27.48 | dick_turpin | wethrin: My main man |
| 19:27.51 | wethrin | Hi! |
| 19:27.56 | kjalil | wethrin: cool |
| 19:27.59 | wethrin | It's near-enough essential if you're running a mail server |
| 19:28.16 | wethrin | For other things it's less necessary, but still good to have it |
| 19:28.34 | wethrin | And your boss' friend is an idiot for saying it's a security risk |
| 19:28.47 | kjalil | wethrin: yeah i think someone told him something to make him paranoid |
| 19:28.53 | wethrin | It's about as insecure as having a house number on your house |
| 19:29.00 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You are added to my "I know a man who can" address book :-) |
| 19:29.08 | wethrin | hurrah! |
| 19:31.18 | kjalil | hmm this Perl workshop on sat looks interesting |
| 19:31.40 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Don't 'Hurrah' too soon I'm taking 40% commission on all your assistance |
| 19:32.02 | highbury | link for saurday? |
| 19:33.17 | kjalil | http://conferences.yapceurope.org/lpw2007/schedule |
| 19:34.00 | kjalil | highbury: i don't know either. i'm just glad i told him it *is* important |
| 19:40.22 | wethrin | 40% of nothing is still nothing |
| 19:47.10 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Ah but I've taken out an indemnity of projected earnings, in real terms you're worth 400 million |
| 19:47.28 | wethrin | Can I cash that in? |
| 19:48.55 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I've told you before you don't understand the cut-n-thrust of money markets, I'll keep looking after your share for you. Would I let you down? |
| 19:49.13 | wethrin | I couldn't possibly comment |
| 19:54.22 | wethrin | :) |
| 19:54.25 | wethrin | I'm off out! |
| 19:54.37 | dick_turpin | Yeah I'm off too ttfn |
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