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09:28.19haligood morning, is this the road to albaquerky?
09:29.35Leedsno, this is the high road - you want the low one, just over there
09:31.17bilarhi'm on the road to amarillo meself
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09:49.05bilarharse, my neighbours gave me a bottle of wine as a thank you present, but i don't drink wine
09:49.30bilarhand i can't say i don't want it, because it was a present
09:49.39bilarhwhat's the solution?
09:50.43Leedstake it, thank them, then bin it or give it away
09:50.57bilarhi'll give it to my mum when she comes over i think
09:51.11Leedsbetter maybe, wait until you have guests who do drink, and give it to them - and get an opinion on it, so you can pass it back to the neighbours
10:00.33antiphaseStart drinking wine, it's good for you
10:02.00bilarhdrinking sucks
10:02.19bilarhit makes me really tired on the night and i always feel terrible for a couple of days after
10:02.20antiphaseOnly if you use a straw
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10:46.33blightWhat's a better way to define this regex: /[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]6/
10:47.10antiphasePerl compatible or not?
10:47.32antiphase/[0-9]{6}6/ looks god to me
10:47.35bilarh. /[0-9]{6}6/
10:47.36bilarhffs
10:47.40bilarhbeta me to it :)
10:47.43antiphase:P
10:52.15blightantiphase, thanks - using awk - doesn't seem to like {}, I've tried escaping but doesn't help
10:53.25antiphaseTry grep
10:53.52antiphaseUnless you really need awk or something. I tend to use perl in those instances, much to the disgust of the old guard
10:55.08bilarhperl is indeed so much easier to work with
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11:55.48Provitogreat! I've got a developer gone awol
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13:40.00wethrinc0p3!
13:40.04Copehallo
13:40.10wethrinhow do?
13:40.23Copeoh soso
13:40.52Copebeen v.unwell
13:41.25wethrinOh :(
13:41.28wethrinFeeling better now?
13:41.35Copemore or less
13:43.36wethringood to hear, then
14:09.38zmey_ghi all
14:09.51Armanddafternoon. :)
14:10.13zmey_glooking for a linux job
14:10.45zmey_g:)
14:11.02ArmandI've not seen anything in the way of Linux related stuff myself.
14:11.25ArmandBut, to be fair, I don't look for it as I'm relatively new to Linux. :P
14:11.44zmey_gI saw plenty but requirements are too high for me
14:12.09zmey_gneed more practise
14:12.51ArmandWell, I'm looking at going back to college, as I have no PC related qualifications.
14:13.05ArmandUnless you count a 15yo GCSE. :P
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14:13.28zmey_gnot bad
14:13.36Armandworse..
14:13.51ArmandGCSE's are a good as toilet paper..
14:14.12zmey_gdont know. never had one.
14:14.18ArmandAhh.
14:14.20ProvitoArmand, they are not so soft though
14:14.33ArmandYeah.. paper cuts are a bitch. :P
14:15.01boudiccasbutmore work goes into GCSE's than into toilet paper
14:15.18zmey_gI have lots of papers on my shoulders but it's not IT related stuff
14:16.05boudiccasand doing it in my own time at evening class
14:16.16Armandtbh, I wish I had got my Maths GCSE.. but I'm not that bothered by it.
14:17.23boudiccasArmand; go back to school and get it in evening classes :)
14:17.56zmey_gboudiccas: should read Feodor Dostoevsky "Crime and Punishment" - all about psychic.
14:21.49ArmandDon't really need it.. It's just stupid that I didn't get it when I was at school.
14:30.04boudiccasArmand; the remedy is in your hands :)
14:30.42boudiccasif i pass this exam next year then i'm hoping to do law in the following september
14:30.52ArmandIt's not something I need to resolve, a PC related cert. would be more useful. :D
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14:32.09zmey_gArmand: CompTIA A+ is ok for a start
14:32.25Armandzmey_g: Any idea on costs for that?
14:33.11zmey_gArmand: the test itself about £116
14:33.28Armandnot bad..
14:33.56zmey_gbut you need to prepare yourself very well
14:34.02Armandof course. :)
14:34.50zmey_git took me 6 month, you might be quicker learner than me
14:36.01Armanddunno.. ^_^
14:36.22zmey_g:)
14:36.51ArmandWell, I'm wrapping my head around Linux ok, so far..
14:41.44zmey_gArmand: CompTIA Linux+ than :)
14:41.58Armand:)
14:42.09zmey_git took me 2 month
14:42.29ArmandO_O
14:42.33Armanddamned quick,,
14:42.38Armand* ..
14:43.43zmey_gA+ book is twice as heave as Linux +
14:58.46ArmandWell, I'll deffo take a look at that. :)
14:59.41Armandgotta go down the fscking shops now. >:(
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15:12.31antiphaseWhy can't people spell "fucking" on IRC?
15:13.45boudiccascos they're being polite?
15:14.00antiphaseI find misspelling offensive
15:14.02cpufreakno they're not fuckign not
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15:36.05niv_one_threehi all
15:36.54dick_turpinniv_one_three: :)
15:37.54niv_one_threeok,
15:38.15niv_one_threesimple question, I am building a calculator
15:38.30niv_one_threeI need to input a sign as + - or *
15:38.30etorix1+1=2
15:38.35antiphaseYou can buy them for a couple of quid
15:38.40niv_one_threeI am using ansi C
15:38.43antiphaseNot worth making your own
15:38.43dick_turpinCasio has already done it :-(
15:39.14niv_one_threeas it is a char - must I use getchar ? can I use scanf() for this?
15:39.19wethrinIs it an RPN calculator?
15:39.34niv_one_threewhat is rpn ?
15:39.38wethrinyou can use scanf() - IIRC, %c reads a character
15:39.42wethrinReverse Polish Notation
15:39.44niv_one_threeit should take very large numbers
15:39.53wethrinAn arbitrary precision calculator?
15:40.05wethrinString handling in C is hateful
15:40.05antiphaseDepends if you're supposed to be doing the ASCII->decimal conversion yourself
15:40.08niv_one_threeyes just a basic drill
15:40.15antiphaseGet scanf to do it for you ;)
15:40.24niv_one_threeright - how ?
15:40.25wethrinscanf still needs hints :)
15:40.38antiphase"format strings"
15:40.43niv_one_threescanf("%s",sign); ??
15:40.51antiphaseDo you not have a text book or some other reference?
15:40.56antiphase%s is string
15:41.05wethrindoesn't %s terminate at a space, though?
15:41.06niv_one_threeI got google and you guys
15:41.08wethrinOr am I being a moron?
15:41.27niv_one_threeI should find a book
15:41.34wethrinK&R
15:41.37niv_one_threebut I need to send it in a few hrs
15:41.46antiphaseShould have started earlier ;)
15:41.56niv_one_threewethrin , pls url me the book
15:42.04niv_one_threeya ya
15:42.23antiphaseFlippant, yet wanting homework help. Interesting!
15:42.29niv_one_threeok, I am looking in to getchar
15:42.33wethrinhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196350930&sr=8-1
15:42.41niv_one_threeoh comeon
15:42.48niv_one_threeok
15:43.02niv_one_threelets see what I get
15:45.03niv_one_threefound my old book
15:45.06niv_one_threeok to work
15:46.08etorixhuh, most of yerp just fell off virgin
15:46.33etorix<PROTECTED>
15:55.21dnany of you guys on bulldog dsl?
15:57.39zmey_gwhat's good about bulldog?
15:58.33dnnothing, but if someone else is, they may have some tips for dealing with their horrible hardware
15:58.39etorixthey were fast while they lasted
15:59.46zmey_gukfsn is a rock and Jason Clifford is a real person.
16:01.10wethrinJason's not real!
16:01.44zmey_gwethrin: sure. unreal.
16:03.15dick_turpinInterestingly Virgin comes out on top (supposedly) in my area
16:04.22etorixsomeones turned europe off tho
16:04.33etorixat virgin
16:07.00dick_turpinDunno, I just did one of those web based 'comparison' thingies
16:08.29etorixthey are the only cable here
16:49.12blightAny - be ADSL - users here?
16:49.29cpufreakI used to use be for their LLU stuff
16:49.40cpufreakhad a diferent ISP provide the IP transit though
16:50.01zmey_ggoibnhiu i believ use it
16:50.14blightcpufreak: good experience? support okay?
16:50.25cpufreakdidn't touch the support
16:50.28cpufreaktheir LLU was good
16:50.41cpufreakas I was 200 metres from the exchange
16:50.48cpufreakso got download link speed at 18.6Mb/s
16:50.59cpufreakupload was 1.3Mb/s on AnnexA
16:51.41rhowehttp://forums.worsethanfailure.com/forums/138442/ShowThread.aspx
16:51.57wethrinrhowe!
16:52.03wethrinI've booked my FOSDEM travel
16:52.10rhowewethrin: Cool
16:52.49wethrin1257 from St Pancras on the 22nd
16:52.54wethrinAnd 1859 from Brussels on the 24th
16:53.06rhoweAlrighty, I'll see if I can book something when I get paid tomorrow
16:54.51wethringood man
16:54.52blightcpufreak: nice - thanks
16:55.03wethrinTickets are still available at £29.50 each way
16:56.08cpufreakbargain
16:56.18cpufreakonly 29 euro return for me to go to brussel
16:56.18cpufreaks
16:56.36cpufreakcan't make fosdem though
16:56.36wethrincpufreak: See you at FOSDEM, then!
16:56.38cpufreak:(
16:56.40cpufreakskiing
16:56.41cpufreakI think
16:56.44wethrinBah
16:58.31boudiccassnuff
17:01.11cpufreakisn't snuff illegal?
17:03.10haliit should be
17:03.14halisince weed is
17:03.19halijust as dangerous
17:03.49ArmandI thought snuff was just tabacco ?
17:12.12boudiccasArmand; the majority of the English snuff in the Uk is just flavoured tobacco
17:12.38ArmandWell, that's what I thought.. but I've never touched the stuff.
17:12.50boudiccaswhereas indian snuff [from India] does put other flavourings and other ingredients in
17:13.12cpufreakweed isn't illegal here
17:13.54ArmandIt is in the UK, but it depends on how much you have on you.
17:14.53Armand"personal use" is ok.. upto 10 joints worth. Although that's bollocks as I know guys who will put an eighth in 1 joint.
17:15.12cpufreakyou're a dodgy stoner though
17:15.22ArmandBut stupid amounts like Lbs of it, will get you jail time. :P
17:15.43ArmandAnd, yes.. I am a stoner, well done. :D
17:15.50ArmandBut less of the dodgy!! >_<
17:15.52antiphaseYou'll break your brain
17:15.57ArmandDone. :)
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19:00.03aguaithefreakhi
19:02.52aguaithefreakhow can I recursively rm all the *ini in every subdir undir a certain dir?
19:03.11wethrinfind -name "*ini" | xargs rm
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19:04.20wethrinfind /certain/dir/ -name "*ini" | xargs rm
19:05.24aguaithefreakwethrin: thanks
19:05.42aguaithefreakI should blog this trick
19:05.44wethrinBest run it without the xargs first, to see if the files look correct
19:07.15aguaithefreakwethrin: I got it, thanks
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19:18.18aguaithefreakwethrin: I got one problem
19:19.10aguaithefreakhow can I avoid the " " "&" those special char?
19:20.13highburyfind /certain/dir/ -name "*ini" -type f -exec rm {} \;
19:20.17aguaithefreakhow can I make 'find' to add "\ " in
19:21.26highburyif you want to use xargs you need find and xargs to use null to terminate filenames
19:22.27highburyfind /certain/dir/ -name "*ini" -print0 | xargs -0 rm
19:22.35highburyI believe
19:23.10aguaithefreakhighbury: that is easier for me...
19:28.57aguaithefreakhighbury: thanks 4think of the meaning of 8find ./ -name "*waht" -type f -exec rm {} \;
19:32.36highbury?
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19:55.47aguaithefreakhighbury: I understand
19:55.56aguaithefreakthe line
19:56.08aguaithefreakthankyou sooo much
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20:20.39rhowehey bitches, i got ssh working on my k800i
20:20.56halii got ssh working on my ubuntu pc
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20:21.52rhowedid you need to sudo?
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