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| 15:28.37 | cpufreak | (Roberto Lumberas)-- |
| 15:28.58 | cpufreak | # adding undocumented stupid shell scripts to Debian/Ubuntu boxes in the iproute package. |
| 15:29.04 | cpufreak | /usr/bin/routef is a cunt |
| 15:29.08 | cpufreak | I typoed route |
| 15:29.14 | cpufreak | and it flushed the route table on my box |
| 15:29.21 | wethrin | D'OH! |
| 15:29.51 | wethrin | Isn't there an easy way of flushing the routing tables anyway? |
| 15:30.00 | antiphase | `ip route del` |
| 15:30.06 | antiphase | Been there, done that :) |
| 15:30.22 | cpufreak | yeh |
| 15:30.38 | antiphase | *tap tap tap* Is the Internet broken? |
| 15:30.52 | highbury | we can see you |
| 15:30.59 | cpufreak | I did this on a (personal) box in Germany |
| 15:31.00 | antiphase | *sound of phone being picked up* Can you go and console a box for me |
| 15:31.17 | cpufreak | and its not rebooted |
| 15:33.31 | antiphase | Sign him up for some pr0n-by-email |
| 15:34.51 | cpufreak | its alright |
| 15:34.54 | cpufreak | am in the rescue console now |
| 15:35.15 | cpufreak | which is hetzner's way of booting the box up with their kernel, which klets you do yoru stuff to fix it |
| 16:32.25 | LeedsHK | ibot seen mozrat |
| 16:32.27 | ibot | mozrat <i=mozrat@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 211d 19h 44m 9s ago, saying: 'how are you?'. |
| 16:34.08 | wethrin | was it really that long ago? |
| 16:35.40 | boudiccas | maybe we should send out a search party? |
| 16:36.39 | LeedsHK | the weird thing is, since he was one of the first people to send me email to my gmail account, and I'm now largely reading it over IMAP, I see his mail every time I open the mailbox and it jumps to the oldest mail |
| 16:36.54 | wethrin | :) |
| 16:37.58 | antiphase | I always want to see my oldest mail as soon as I log in. I must start using gmail ;) |
| 16:38.32 | LeedsHK | antiphase: just while thunderbird updates its index :-P |
| 16:52.41 | wethrin | Are they all evil? |
| 16:52.49 | rhowe | Printers are inherently evil |
| 16:52.57 | wethrin | True |
| 16:53.34 | Armand_Laptop | lol |
| 16:54.00 | wethrin | But so far are the best way of getting on-screen stuff onto dead tree |
| 16:54.16 | Armand_Laptop | especially crappy "frickin'" laser printers that chew up the 40 copies of a CV I needed like, 20 minutes ago. :P |
| 16:54.52 | wethrin | They only do that when you're in desperate need of printing |
| 17:01.32 | LeedsHK | ours at Sun were named for Belgian beers |
| 17:02.01 | LeedsHK | at my current place, they are named ricoh_p1 and ricoh_p2 - and that tells you almost everything you need to know about the place |
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| 17:25.25 | Ch0Hag | Every time I load X the font size in Galeon changes. |
| 18:04.56 | cpufreak | hmm |
| 18:04.56 | cpufreak | # grub-install hd0 |
| 18:04.57 | cpufreak | /dev/sda1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 18:05.09 | cpufreak | yet, fdisk /dev/sda looks perfectly happy |
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| 18:33.23 | hali | sda1 or sda? whats in device.map? |
| 18:40.11 | cpufreak | # cat device.map |
| 18:40.11 | cpufreak | (hd0)/dev/sda |
| 18:50.16 | cpufreak | udev seems to have fucked the dog |
| 18:50.26 | cpufreak | (last time the box was booted it waas pre-udev) |
| 18:50.37 | cpufreak | about 400 days ago |
| 18:56.57 | hali | ubuntus udev implementation is flakey |
| 18:57.21 | hali | i've had several problems where it required a restart to find new devices when hotplugging |
| 19:05.56 | cpufreak | well rebooting ownt fixs it |
| 19:05.58 | cpufreak | wont fix it |
| 19:06.15 | wethrin | whoops |
| 19:07.29 | cpufreak | I'm wondering if this has something to do with it.... |
| 19:07.29 | cpufreak | root@rewind:/dev# ls -lart sda1 |
| 19:07.29 | cpufreak | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 2007-12-04 19:00 sda1 |
| 19:07.29 | cpufreak | root@rewind:/dev# cd /dev/mapper/ |
| 19:07.29 | cpufreak | root@rewind:/dev/mapper# ls -lart sda1 |
| 19:07.30 | cpufreak | brw-rw---- 1 root disk 253, 9 2007-12-04 19:00 sda1 |
| 19:07.41 | cpufreak | different major/minors for them |
| 19:07.58 | cpufreak | I hate them |
| 19:08.03 | cpufreak | all because I typoed route earlier |
| 19:08.17 | wethrin | Well....it shows there's something else broken in the system |
| 19:08.29 | cpufreak | well no |
| 19:08.31 | cpufreak | what happened was |
| 19:08.38 | cpufreak | the box was running 2.6.15 perfectly happly |
| 19:08.55 | cpufreak | and had been since I installed the box with Ubuntu 6.06 a year and a bit ago |
| 19:09.06 | cpufreak | in the mean time I'd upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10, then to 7.04 and now to 7.10 |
| 19:09.10 | cpufreak | without rebooting |
| 19:09.14 | wethrin | Whoops |
| 19:09.14 | cpufreak | routef flushed the route table |
| 19:09.19 | cpufreak | so the box stopped pinging |
| 19:09.20 | wethrin | So you've got a new kernel... |
| 19:09.27 | cpufreak | now 2.6.15 doesn't support udev |
| 19:09.33 | cpufreak | 7.10 depends on udev |
| 19:09.38 | wethrin | hurrah |
| 19:09.47 | wethrin | So you've *not* got a new kernel, but everything else new |
| 19:09.51 | cpufreak | yes |
| 19:10.04 | cpufreak | and I can't get grub to install |
| 19:10.07 | cpufreak | as udev has fucked the dog |
| 19:10.28 | cpufreak | am currently booting a kernel with stackly loaded modules nad have bastardised the bootup process to get networ working |
| 19:10.32 | wethrin | And people wonder why I'm not so keen on Linux any more.... |
| 19:10.40 | cpufreak | as I have no OOB on hte box just the emergency console that Hetzner give me |
| 19:11.30 | cpufreak | doing things blind is trciky |
| 19:11.46 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 19:11.50 | wethrin | Cereal consoles FTW |
| 19:27.21 | cpufreak | arse |
| 19:27.27 | cpufreak | it just doesn't boot with anUbuntu kernel |
| 19:27.31 | cpufreak | from Gutsy |
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| 19:46.05 | cpufreak | ah |
| 19:46.07 | cpufreak | fixed that |
| 19:46.12 | cpufreak | <PROTECTED> |
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