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| 11:33.58 | antiphase | xteddy: Whore yourself out |
| 11:33.58 | xteddy | :) :) |
| 11:34.42 | wethrin | xteddy can FOAD |
| 11:34.42 | xteddy | :) |
| 11:35.17 | wethrin | Anything that pretends to be that happy is clearly tanked up to the hilt with drugs |
| 11:47.21 | cpufreak | what the fuck is starshine, and xteddy? |
| 11:47.25 | cpufreak | idiots |
| 11:54.32 | wethrin | starshine is the author of xteddy |
| 11:55.31 | antiphase | Although "author" is a bit of a strong word for something with essentially no functionality |
| 11:56.14 | wethrin | It provides irritation |
| 12:01.15 | bilarh | get yourselves something more important to worry about :-) |
| 12:01.25 | bilarh | xteddy: hug antiphase |
| 12:01.26 | xteddy | :> |
| 12:01.30 | bilarh | :D |
| 12:02.12 | bilarh | although i must admit it's extra smiles get on my nerves |
| 12:02.53 | wethrin | indeed |
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| 12:31.05 | wethrin | None of this American spelling in here, young man! |
| 12:31.08 | bilarh | jewellry? |
| 12:31.12 | wethrin | jewellery |
| 12:31.23 | bilarh | ah, i thought it looked wrong |
| 12:33.54 | dick_turpin | hali: You was right, one of the 1GB mem sticks was fucked |
| 12:35.04 | dick_turpin | with a shetland pony I might add |
| 12:35.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ah shut your face you person you |
| 12:36.00 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what is it with you!? every time you enter the channel, it degenerates into some sex fest :( |
| 12:36.03 | bilarh | you disgust me, you do! |
| 12:36.24 | dick_turpin | I ain't getting any :-P |
| 12:36.58 | bilarh | i can hook you up with this pony i know, if you want? |
| 12:37.00 | antiphase | Quit your jibber jabber |
| 12:37.34 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Wasn't he in star wars? |
| 12:40.06 | bilarh | mind, it consisted of a chewing gum and a couple of pennies i found behind the sofa, so it was to be expected, i suppose |
| 12:41.29 | dick_turpin | I've took a Draytek Vigour 2800 VG wifi router home last night :-) |
| 12:41.37 | bilarh | ooh a draytek |
| 12:41.42 | bilarh | are they any good? |
| 12:41.47 | bilarh | i always wanted to buy one of them |
| 12:41.58 | bilarh | because it actually does *real* routing and firewalling, afaik |
| 12:42.02 | bilarh | not some shitty nat crap only |
| 12:42.02 | dick_turpin | Yeah replaced my 2600 with it |
| 12:42.26 | antiphase | What's unreal routing? |
| 12:42.33 | dick_turpin | Yep all firewalling is done at the router |
| 12:42.43 | bilarh | i suppose 'real' routing is the wrong word |
| 12:42.51 | bilarh | i just don't like the standard 'nat' firewalling crap |
| 12:43.03 | bilarh | and most cheap modem/router jobs only do nat, it seems |
| 12:43.04 | antiphase | I bet the "real" firewall is just the outside of a NAT as well |
| 12:43.52 | dick_turpin | Dunno, cant be arsed to learn seems to work which is good enough for me |
| 12:43.55 | bilarh | e.g. i want to route a /28 that i have to my home network, but it doesn't work becuase my modem/router/wifi-jobbie only does nat routing |
| 12:44.17 | bilarh | i can get it to route my /28, but then the firewall is disabled and it just acts as a router |
| 12:44.37 | bilarh | or i can get it to become a nat gateway, with port forwarding, which isn't what i want either |
| 12:44.54 | antiphase | If you want a firewall, make yourself a proper one, or buy one |
| 12:45.06 | antiphase | Or use a real router that has proper access lists |
| 12:45.11 | bilarh | that's what i'm saying :-) i want a real router |
| 12:45.21 | antiphase | Get a Cisco 837 or something |
| 12:45.24 | bilarh | and afaik the draytek range has a few of them for not a lot of money |
| 12:45.48 | dick_turpin | bilarh: yep has what antiphase is talking about |
| 12:46.09 | bilarh | dick_turpin: rrp? |
| 12:46.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: :-) work ;-) |
| 12:47.19 | dick_turpin | bilarh: we can buy em @ 135.00 |
| 12:47.30 | bilarh | neat |
| 12:59.36 | Ch0Hag | Can you have per-user additions to /etc/hosts? |
| 12:59.40 | Ch0Hag | And if not, why not? |
| 12:59.57 | bilarh | no, afaik |
| 13:00.07 | bilarh | although it would be quite neat, in some ways |
| 13:00.28 | Ch0Hag | Aye. |
| 13:00.43 | Ch0Hag | One less reason to use sudo. |
| 13:00.56 | bilarh | ey? |
| 13:01.03 | Ch0Hag | sudo vi /etc/hosts |
| 13:03.30 | bilarh | not quite what you want, but a tidy hack nevertheless :D |
| 13:03.32 | bilarh | http://blog.deadgod.net/2007/01/24/How_to_override_DNS_on_a_per-user_basis |
| 13:03.52 | antiphase | Why would you ever want to do that? |
| 13:04.12 | bilarh | if you have different staging environments, maybe |
| 13:04.16 | bilarh | for different developers |
| 13:04.20 | bilarh | but one main server they work from |
| 13:04.35 | bilarh | it's a convoluted example, granted |
| 13:05.01 | antiphase | You could always use something other than DNS... |
| 13:05.08 | Ch0Hag | Because I don't having to remember a list of IP addresses. |
| 13:05.16 | Ch0Hag | Computers exist to do my remembering for me. |
| 13:05.25 | bilarh | ch0hag: yeah but relaly, what's wrong with /etc/hosts then? |
| 13:05.31 | bilarh | apart from the sudo part of updating? |
| 13:05.32 | Ch0Hag | root owns it. |
| 13:05.49 | bilarh | so? |
| 13:06.04 | Ch0Hag | I don't like using root unless it's essential. |
| 13:06.13 | antiphase | This is why groups were invented |
| 13:06.39 | Ch0Hag | Why edit a system-wide file to make a change that only makes sense to my user? |
| 13:06.59 | antiphase | How many users are using your machine at any one time? |
| 13:07.06 | antiphase | I suspect the answer is 1 |
| 13:07.13 | antiphase | in which case, it's a silly argument :P |
| 13:07.16 | Ch0Hag | Sometimes 2. |
| 13:07.29 | Ch0Hag | (ie. when someone else is on it and I connect remotely) |
| 13:07.36 | Ch0Hag | However that is entirely irrelevant. |
| 13:07.38 | bilarh | ch0hag: hack gethostbyname to use /etc/hosts.uid :) |
| 14:23.39 | hali | or use iptables to redirect to diffrent tinydns servers that return whatever you want |
| 14:23.45 | hali | based on uid |
| 14:23.48 | hali | hassle to maintain though |
| 14:23.53 | hali | but no code change |
| 14:33.26 | Ch0Hag | Hacking libnss_file.so sounds much more plausible. |
| 14:33.44 | Ch0Hag | Or maybe creating libnss_userfile.so |
| 14:34.07 | antiphase | Or maybe just using NIS |
| 14:34.33 | Ch0Hag | Or that. |
| 15:14.09 | dick_turpin | hali |
| 15:14.43 | hali | yo |
| 15:15.12 | bilarh | nis? how would that help on a user basis? |
| 15:15.43 | dick_turpin | hali: You was right one of the 1GB memory modules was shagged |
| 15:19.21 | hali | ah, i knew it! |
| 15:20.24 | dick_turpin | hali: Cor lots of 'Red' errors! millions of em |
| 15:30.41 | hali | just send it back |
| 15:30.48 | hali | to yourself and grab another one |
| 15:51.29 | dick_turpin | hali: You know me so well, should be here tomorrow :-) |
| 16:17.52 | bilarh | i can't believe i used to have a tv tuner card and threw it out |
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| 23:49.06 | z00dax | this channel is getting quieter and quieter |
| 23:54.14 | wethrin | IT is |
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| 23:55.19 | z00dax | well, 2 weeks to go till xmas |
| 23:55.31 | Armand_Laptop | <sarcasm> w0000! </sarcasm> |
| 23:55.36 | z00dax | been wondering, n810 or asus eee pc |
| 23:55.37 | wethrin | Arg |
| 23:55.56 | Armand_Laptop | dunno, not read about either. |
| 23:56.16 | wethrin | Apple Newton! |
| 23:56.38 | z00dax | umm no |
| 23:56.46 | Armand_Laptop | "reach out and touch somebody" ? |
| 23:56.47 | Armand_Laptop | :P |
| 23:58.22 | Armand_Laptop | ooooh, Charmed on Living. :) |