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09:54.51 | secretlondon | morning |
09:55.07 | secretlondon | vodafone don't seem to want to give me 3g or hsdpa this morning |
10:48.44 | antiphase | I claim today's evilness prize for using AOL broadband via Windows ICS |
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11:22.31 | secretlondon | nasty |
11:22.36 | secretlondon | vidta too? |
11:22.38 | secretlondon | vista |
11:31.45 | antiphase | XP fortunately, so it's almost functional |
11:33.55 | Provito | antiphase, to top it off are you using the free laptop as well? |
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11:35.20 | antiphase | I'm using a laptop, also with Windows, and I didn't strictly pay for it so I suppose it was free |
11:39.33 | zmey_g | Everybody please laugh. I couldn't install win xp on my laptop, so i left just linux on it. |
11:44.42 | secretlondon | "just linux" |
11:49.22 | zmey_g | it appeared windoze xp cant handle new sata drivers, so there will be no double boot any more. just linux. |
12:15.03 | bilarh | ibot seen hali |
12:15.05 | ibot | hali is currently on #gllug, last said: 'using dwango'. |
12:15.24 | bilarh | damn you, ibot! i need timestamps :) |
12:24.44 | wethrin | heh |
12:40.20 | boudiccas | ibot seen BlacKKitty |
12:40.21 | ibot | boudiccas: i haven't seen 'blackkitty' |
12:40.33 | boudiccas | ibost seen blackitty |
12:40.54 | boudiccas | ibot seen blackitty |
12:40.55 | ibot | boudiccas: i haven't seen 'blackitty' |
12:49.35 | wethrin | Bah. My Mac IIcx doesn't turn on |
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12:56.01 | gw280 | blargh |
12:56.12 | wethrin | hi gw280 |
12:56.16 | gw280 | hi |
12:56.24 | wethrin | How's life? |
12:56.27 | gw280 | fantastic |
12:56.34 | wethrin | Hurrah! |
12:56.36 | gw280 | just had a very nice job offer |
12:56.58 | wethrin | Nice. Where, doing what? |
12:57.03 | wethrin | Are you already a finalist?\ |
12:57.05 | gw280 | NX development |
12:57.10 | gw280 | no, I'm second year |
12:57.21 | gw280 | contract work... 30 GBP per hour |
12:57.28 | wethrin | Ahh....that's quite decent |
12:57.32 | gw280 | I know :D |
12:57.45 | gw280 | working to make my NX client more cross platform |
12:57.57 | wethrin | So it'll run on RedHat *and* Debian? :) |
12:58.03 | gw280 | well |
12:58.05 | gw280 | OS X, Windows and Linux |
12:58.12 | gw280 | all open source |
12:58.53 | wethrin | good good |
12:59.28 | gw280 | so it looks like I won't be doing any WebKit devel for a while |
12:59.41 | wethrin | WebKit? |
12:59.46 | gw280 | yeah, that's my other contract |
13:00.00 | gw280 | but they pay bollocks in comparison |
13:00.04 | wethrin | Ahh |
13:00.07 | wethrin | Just a tenner? |
13:00.11 | gw280 | yeah |
13:00.13 | gw280 | 9.50 |
13:00.32 | wethrin | Eh. I'd go for the £30 job :) |
13:00.38 | gw280 | indeed |
13:00.56 | gw280 | best is that they know I'm not going to commit much during term time |
13:01.01 | gw280 | so I don't have to worry about deadlines etc |
13:01.10 | wethrin | Yay! |
13:01.15 | gw280 | they seemed OK with my estimate that I'd be able to commit around 4-5 hours a week |
13:01.25 | wethrin | Sounds about reasonable - an hour a day |
13:01.30 | gw280 | something like that |
13:01.43 | gw280 | they're based in pinner |
13:01.53 | wethrin | S'not too far out, then |
13:01.58 | gw280 | I'll let slide the fact that they served me instant coffee |
13:02.02 | wethrin | Ow |
13:02.03 | gw280 | wethrin: I live in Cambridge :P |
13:02.10 | wethrin | Permanently now? :) |
13:02.14 | gw280 | just about |
13:02.21 | gw280 | this week is the first time I've been home since last christmas |
13:02.22 | gw280 | or something |
13:02.30 | wethrin | Ah. You're living out, then? |
13:02.33 | gw280 | all my shit's still in cambridge |
13:02.37 | gw280 | no, living in college |
13:02.56 | gw280 | I've just managed to convince the college to let me have the room on a semi-permanent basis |
13:02.57 | wethrin | Oh. So your college allows you to stay in over holidays? That's nice of them |
13:03.02 | gw280 | yeah |
13:03.05 | gw280 | costs me a tenner a day |
13:03.15 | wethrin | Not unreasonable |
13:03.25 | gw280 | it used to be 8.50 :( |
13:03.30 | gw280 | capitalists |
13:03.43 | wethrin | They don't sound as money-grabbing as Durham |
13:03.51 | gw280 | durham stinks though |
13:03.53 | wethrin | Hateful administration at the university |
13:03.56 | gw280 | it's a fake university |
13:03.57 | wethrin | Nah, only Old Shite Hall |
13:04.01 | wethrin | Young upstarts! |
13:04.11 | gw280 | durham is younger than cambridge |
13:04.13 | gw280 | cambridge > * |
13:04.18 | wethrin | Rubbish! |
13:04.24 | wethrin | Oxford > Tabland |
13:04.30 | gw280 | oxford < durham |
13:04.44 | wethrin | Pff |
13:05.14 | gw280 | anyway, got another meeting with them tomorrow to discuss it with their coders |
13:05.18 | gw280 | as I only spoke to their CEO today |
13:05.27 | wethrin | Will their coders want you on-board? |
13:05.28 | gw280 | who can't code, apparently |
13:05.32 | gw280 | apparently they do |
13:05.38 | gw280 | he had a string of questions from them |
13:05.43 | gw280 | I think there are two of them |
13:05.54 | gw280 | it's not as if I'm working in their office anyway |
13:06.00 | wethrin | True |
13:06.06 | wethrin | So you spare them that :) |
13:06.12 | wethrin | You Fosdemming this year |
13:06.13 | wethrin | ? |
13:06.16 | gw280 | although they did have some crack headed ideas about some authentication stuff |
13:06.36 | wethrin | Did it involve DNA scanners? |
13:06.44 | gw280 | no |
13:06.57 | gw280 | it involved changing the authentication structure of NX to allow config-less deployment of clients |
13:07.06 | gw280 | which is clearly some sort of abject failure, as you're breaking other NX clients |
13:07.26 | wethrin | That's a bit broken, then |
13:07.29 | gw280 | breaking standards isn't a hobby of mine |
13:07.30 | gw280 | :) |
13:07.50 | gw280 | well, I think the CEO may have relayed it incorrectly |
13:08.01 | gw280 | he's not a coder, and he was going by memory of what the coders were saying |
13:08.05 | wethrin | Open-source people like breaking standards |
13:08.17 | gw280 | nah, open source people like MAKING standards |
13:08.25 | gw280 | they don't break them, they just define new ones |
13:09.18 | wethrin | Hmmmmm |
13:09.23 | gw280 | right, lunch |
13:09.23 | gw280 | bye |
13:12.04 | wethrin | bye |
13:49.56 | secretlondon | my graphics card is in the royal mail system in Manchester |
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13:51.06 | Ch0Hag | Apparently my computer, on the first floor, is controlled by the switch marked ground floor on the fusebox. |
13:51.25 | Ch0Hag | Although the UPS, next to me, which powers the server etc. isn't. |
13:51.25 | secretlondon | I'm not sure where else something bought from a shop in manchester on the 24th would be |
13:51.38 | secretlondon | weird |
13:51.54 | secretlondon | maybe you moved |
13:53.26 | Ch0Hag | Someone could have told me. |
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13:59.07 | secretlondon | Benazir Bhutto has apparently been killed by a suicide bomber |
13:59.14 | secretlondon | according to live journal |
13:59.29 | secretlondon | which isn't necessarily the best source of info but is referencing the bbc |
13:59.43 | Discordian | Yeah seen that |
13:59.52 | Discordian | That's a shame |
14:00.01 | secretlondon | bah better go out - supposed to be somewhere at half past |
14:00.16 | Discordian | heh have fun |
14:10.38 | Ch0Hag | Hmm worth getting a cable tester? |
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14:49.11 | wethrin | Ch0Hag: Probably |
14:53.00 | wethrin | his? Bah. Silly keyboard |
14:58.55 | Ch0Hag | I probably should, but there are none in stock and it costs a tenner which, thanks to Christmas, I don't really have. |
15:00.00 | Ch0Hag | Is it possible to tunnel an ethernet device to another machine? |
15:00.30 | wethrin | No |
15:00.46 | Ch0Hag | I've bought a new board which will become my server and it has wireless built in, but my router has no wireless, so cat I fool the router into believing the wireless device is local? |
15:00.55 | Ch0Hag | Or do I have to muck around with iptables? |
15:01.08 | Ch0Hag | (Or buy another wireless card) |
15:01.40 | wethrin | Get a WAP, so wired and wireless can live on the same network |
15:02.08 | Ch0Hag | Yeah that's plan B. |
15:02.19 | Ch0Hag | Wireless 'card'. |
15:03.05 | Ch0Hag | Although it'll be on a network of its own. |
15:04.42 | hali | hm, i feel slightly retarded but where the fuck does ubuntu decide what modules to load on boot? i want to change the ethernet module from r8168 to r8169 |
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15:05.06 | Ch0Hag | /etc/modules |
15:05.08 | Ch0Hag | ? |
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15:05.21 | Ch0Hag | I think that's done before udev is touched. |
15:05.27 | hali | nope |
15:05.28 | Ch0Hag | But there's always the initrd |
15:05.34 | hali | i would guess initrd does it |
15:05.47 | Ch0Hag | Try /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
15:05.59 | hali | hm, nope, that file is blank :( |
15:06.01 | Ch0Hag | That file exists in sid, and it may even be used. |
15:06.07 | hali | shitty ubuntu, probably loops through all modules with modprobe |
15:06.33 | Ch0Hag | Yeah but in theory if you list modules in there and recreate the rd then they'll be loaded first, so r8168 won't need to be. |
15:06.50 | Ch0Hag | And Danish butter cookies, even cheap ones, are highly addictive. |
15:08.28 | wethrin | udev can Fuck Off And Die |
15:08.41 | wethrin | Does /etc/modules.conf not exist any more? |
15:08.59 | Ch0Hag | Not in sid. |
15:09.06 | wethrin | How shit |
15:09.10 | hali | found the darn module |
15:09.11 | antiphase | One has to ask why you need to force which module to use |
15:09.12 | hali | in the ramdisk |
15:09.21 | hali | how do i build a new ramdisk? |
15:09.26 | wethrin | Yet another reason I like Linux less and less |
15:09.28 | hali | the clean way that is :) |
15:09.43 | hali | solaris wouldn't have this problem! *rant* |
15:09.52 | hali | notthat solaris supportsthe ethernet card at all :) |
15:09.53 | wethrin | Remember, Linux is trying to be more like Windows! |
15:09.57 | Ch0Hag | mkinitramfs or some variation thereof. |
15:09.58 | wethrin | So, err, re-install the OS |
15:10.32 | Ch0Hag | I blame Gnome. |
15:10.38 | Ch0Hag | They made it too user friendly. |
15:10.45 | wethrin | "user friendly" hah |
15:10.45 | Ch0Hag | Gnome 2. |
15:10.51 | Ch0Hag | Gnome 1 was nicely obfuscated. |
15:10.55 | wethrin | I agree with Linus' rant about it |
15:11.02 | wethrin | Gnome suffered from horrid over-design syndrome |
15:11.03 | antiphase | update-initramfs innit |
15:11.21 | Ch0Hag | antiphase: So it is. I missed that one looking through the list of update-* |
15:11.29 | wethrin | All very well and good to use CORBA and all that crap. *IF* you're going to run the various components of the system across multiple disparate computers |
15:11.33 | Ch0Hag | wethrin: URL on Linus ranting? |
15:11.38 | hali | here we go |
15:11.41 | hali | rebooting |
15:11.45 | Ch0Hag | They're always good and often insightful too. |
15:11.58 | Ch0Hag | And can someone take these damn biscuits away from me?? |
15:11.59 | hali | better switch on the tv to see what it's up to |
15:12.08 | wethrin | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html |
15:12.31 | wethrin | But using CORBA on a system that's only ever going to be used on the individual PC is stupid design |
15:13.09 | hali | ah great |
15:13.18 | hali | it crashed and fell back on busybox |
15:13.35 | Ch0Hag | Yeah gnome's network support is just funny. |
15:13.51 | wethrin | Hmm. That's a different rant |
15:16.22 | Ch0Hag | Good though. |
15:16.31 | Ch0Hag | There hasn't been a good UI since Rosc OS. |
15:16.33 | Ch0Hag | Risc |
15:16.50 | Ch0Hag | And a TTY, of course, they're kinda fun. |
15:22.32 | wethrin | I quite like OS X/Aqua |
15:23.00 | wethrin | Although Classic Mac had the *really* sensible design decision to put the window-close button on the other side of the window to the minimise/maximise buttons |
15:23.10 | wethrin | So you couldn't accidentally click it |
15:23.51 | Ch0Hag | OSX is actually gay. |
15:23.56 | Ch0Hag | I don't think it's come out yet though. |
15:24.47 | Ch0Hag | The only reason it seems like a good UI is because its competition is the likes of Windows and TWM. |
15:28.04 | wethrin | It also does some sensible things |
15:28.10 | wethrin | And pretty much works how I'd like it to work |
15:28.25 | wethrin | On Unix systems, my preference is to use windowmaker or Afterstep |
15:28.44 | Ch0Hag | 'Does sensible things' is hardly to be raved about. That should be standard. |
15:32.30 | wethrin | Yes. Sadly, it's not in pretty much all the other GUIs I've used |
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15:49.55 | Discordian | I like gnome and xfce |
15:50.58 | Discordian | I liked CDE too but that's been dead now for years |
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16:27.13 | wethrin | Leeds! |
16:27.24 | wethrin | Happy not-Christmas! |
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16:30.35 | Leeds | wethrin! |
16:30.37 | Leeds | thank you! |
16:30.55 | Leeds | same to you, and all :-) |
16:30.57 | wethrin | How's life on the far side of the world? |
16:31.01 | wethrin | thanks :) |
16:31.39 | wethrin | Foodtime! |
16:31.54 | Leeds | work sucks, life is good... |
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16:34.45 | rhowe | "In the next five working days we will send to you an account unlock code which you will need to enter before you will be able to access this account for the first time." |
16:34.53 | rhowe | well, isn't that efficient, Hackney |
16:35.03 | rhowe | All I want to know is how much we owe them for council tax |
16:39.15 | Leeds | hmm... I have a very hot Dell laptop battery here... |
16:39.27 | Leeds | hot enough that it started flashing warning lights and stopped charging |
16:39.35 | Leeds | how scared should I be? ;-) |
16:40.13 | rhowe | Depends how combustible its surroundings are :) |
16:45.22 | Leeds | this laptop has a nasty tendency to overheat when running on a soft surface - like say a bed |
16:49.32 | Provito | Dell laptops have had a history of catching alight |
16:49.38 | Provito | dell power chargers I mean |
16:49.48 | Provito | they did a recall a couple of years ago |
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16:50.58 | Leeds | that is, of course, why I mentioned it... |
17:01.45 | Provito | was yours in the batch? |
17:04.03 | Leeds | no... the bad batteries are made in China - mine is made in Japan |
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19:36.26 | Discordian | good evening |
19:43.04 | Armand | Hi! :) |
20:05.49 | secretlondon | evening |
20:06.40 | wethrin | ahoy |
20:07.26 | Discordian | Hi |
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22:06.15 | Armand | rehi. :) |
22:07.25 | Discordian | re |
22:07.53 | Armand | How was your Chrimbo then? |
22:08.04 | Discordian | quiet |
22:08.10 | Discordian | yours? |
22:08.12 | Armand | likewise.. |
22:08.15 | Armand | Got drunk. ^_^ |
22:08.29 | Discordian | Same |
22:08.34 | Armand | Whilst playing CS:S. :P |
22:09.02 | Discordian | I'm going to a friends for New Year though |
22:09.15 | Discordian | so should be less naff |
22:09.22 | Armand | I'll probably get smashed round my dads house. :) |
22:09.29 | Armand | fuck all else to do. |
22:09.48 | Discordian | My parents are all dead |
22:10.04 | Discordian | I don't have that option |
22:10.10 | Armand | :( |
22:10.34 | Armand | I live with my mum, and my dad is 10 minutes drive away. |
22:10.52 | Discordian | i have no family at all |
22:11.00 | Armand | Damn.. sorry. :( |
22:11.34 | Discordian | Friends are better anyway |
22:11.37 | Armand | Sometimes, I wish I didn't, then I realise.. they could be worse |
22:11.58 | Armand | I suppose that depends on both, the friends and the family. |
22:12.09 | Armand | I've had some proper cunt "friends" |
22:12.09 | Discordian | You'll miss em when they're gone |
22:12.13 | Armand | yeah |
22:12.41 | Armand | I love my family, really.. just a few of them are arseholes. |
22:13.59 | Discordian | I'd give anything for an xmas with my parents |
22:14.15 | Armand | ;_; |
22:14.21 | Discordian | But it's not possible |
22:14.28 | Armand | yeah.. :( |
22:15.14 | Armand | My dad, and older brother were here for christmas day.. but my eldest brother was with his ex & his kids. |
22:15.30 | Discordian | Nice |
22:16.06 | Armand | It was pretty boring really.. but my dad and older brother are boring gits. :P |
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23:16.19 | Discordian | wb |
23:16.28 | Armand | Sodding mIRC. :P |
23:16.53 | Armand | Just got my laptop F8 install sorted, and killed mIRC by mistake. :P |
23:17.14 | antiphase | You use mIRC out of choice? |
23:17.23 | Armand | Yeah, on Windows.. |
23:17.32 | Armand | What the hell else would I use?! :P |
23:17.37 | antiphase | xchat |
23:17.40 | Discordian | xchat |
23:17.55 | Armand | O_o |
23:18.07 | antiphase | Or PuTTY to a real machine and use a proper client |
23:18.08 | Armand | Didn't know there was a Windows version. :P |
23:18.43 | Armand | And, I don't like remote access stuff, really.. unless it's native Linux. |
23:18.49 | Armand | Don't trust Winduhs. :P |
23:21.02 | Armand | I'm going to have to setup SSH on my shoe-box PC, once I get the damned thing running. >_< |
23:23.48 | Armand | Sodding F8 install kept crashing, I think the HD is borked. |
23:24.16 | Discordian | F8 is fairly stable |
23:24.39 | Armand | Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the HD |
23:24.51 | Armand | It's been around a bit. :P |
23:25.25 | Discordian | lol |
23:25.41 | Armand | Originally had WinME on it!! >_< |
23:25.56 | Discordian | yeuw |
23:26.07 | Armand | exactly.. |
23:26.34 | Discordian | though me was better than 98 |
23:26.38 | hali | the crazy 88! |
23:26.40 | Armand | Never! |
23:26.46 | Armand | Win98SE, the best. :D |
23:27.45 | Discordian | linuc ftw |
23:28.11 | secretlondon | I never ran ME, I'm not sure I've even seen it |
23:28.29 | Armand | Well, duh.. but for Microsoft, Win98SE was better than ME. :P |
23:28.31 | hali | solaris ftw |
23:28.41 | secretlondon | BSD 4 eva! |
23:28.59 | Armand | hehe |
23:29.25 | Discordian | Big up to the SysV possee# |
23:29.34 | Armand | 3Operating System: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP2 (Build #2600) |
23:29.36 | Armand | :P |
23:30.36 | Armand | Ahh.. I really should fire up Konv. :D |
23:32.01 | Armand | lol, still logged in on root. :P |
23:32.36 | Discordian | On XP? |
23:33.41 | Armand | No.. |
23:33.53 | Armand | On my laptop, was about to IRC, but it's still on root. :P |
23:34.36 | Discordian | I helped Khaled with licensing Mirc |
23:34.47 | Discordian | never used it myself |
23:35.20 | Armand | It's ok.. not great, but does the job. |
23:36.33 | Discordian | It runs under wine |
23:36.57 | Discordian | But it's not for me |
23:40.43 | wethrin | Mm...Win98 was *far* better than WinME |
23:41.43 | Armand | Yeah, M$ have only managed 2/3 decent OS's so far.. Win98SE, WinXP MCE SP2, and Win2000. |
23:42.04 | Armand | I've only used 2000 a bit, but my geek friends swear by it. :) |
23:42.56 | wethrin | Win2000 was the best Windows they made |
23:43.15 | wethrin | XP might be better underneath, but the UI makes me want to swing hammers |
23:43.40 | Armand | I turn off the XP style shit. |
23:43.44 | Armand | Gag inducing. |
23:43.57 | Armand | And, RAM hog. :P |
23:44.02 | wethrin | Can the Start button be made a sensible size? |
23:44.11 | Armand | Erm, yeah.. |
23:44.24 | Armand | Just like the Win98/2000 style. |
23:44.38 | Armand | In fact, mine has "Armand" on it. :D |
23:44.44 | wethrin | I'm running 2k on my office PC. The only thing I can't do is run Safari |
23:44.53 | Armand | Whats that? |
23:45.03 | wethrin | Safari? Apple's web browser |
23:45.15 | wethrin | It's the least sucky web browser I've come across |
23:45.16 | Armand | Oh |
23:45.34 | Armand | I use Firefox myself.. can be a bit of a RAM hog on Linux. >_< |
23:45.41 | wethrin | Firefox sucks too |
23:45.48 | wethrin | Just a bit less that most other browsers :) |
23:46.06 | wethrin | In fact, all web browsers suck. And they suck more than most software sucks |
23:46.12 | Armand | O_o |
23:46.20 | hali | we need a new firefox |
23:46.25 | Armand | I find them quite useful.. for browsing webpages. :D |
23:46.44 | wethrin | Well, that's why you put up with their suckiness :) |
23:47.00 | wethrin | If you're a complete nutter like RMS, you don't browse web pages. |
23:47.11 | wethrin | He has a wget daemon running |
23:48.52 | secretlondon | real men use lynx |
23:49.06 | wethrin | lynx sucks |
23:49.09 | wethrin | links is better |
23:49.11 | secretlondon | agreed |
23:49.17 | secretlondon | not used linx |
23:49.26 | secretlondon | or whatever |
23:49.37 | wethrin | It supports slightly newer HTML features. Like, say, tables and frames |
23:49.46 | secretlondon | I'm sure there's something effiminate about running X, even |
23:50.03 | wethrin | Still hasn't *quite* got to image support, which is where Netscape was back in 1994 |
23:50.03 | Discordian | There is? |
23:50.16 | secretlondon | real geeks only use terminals |
23:50.42 | Armand | eeeww |
23:50.55 | wethrin | Feh. Real geeks use the right tool for the job |
23:51.03 | Discordian | I use gnome |
23:51.47 | Discordian | Real programmers don't eat quiche |
23:51.59 | wethrin | Real programmers can write Fortran in any language |
23:52.06 | secretlondon | they only eat pizza |
23:52.07 | Armand | gnite all. :) |
23:52.57 | Discordian | I learned programming in FORTRAN II |
23:53.07 | secretlondon | BBC basic |
23:53.24 | secretlondon | although I did fortran at college in the 1990s which wasn't very useful |
23:53.42 | wethrin | You clearly didn't become an astrophysicist |
23:53.47 | secretlondon | but it gave me "introduction to computer programming" on my degree certificate |
23:54.10 | secretlondon | as a smelly BA student it was always pretty unlikely |
23:54.20 | Discordian | BBC basic the curse of sophie |
23:57.20 | Discordian | I had BCPL and various FORTHS on my BBC B |
23:59.09 | wethrin | I don't have any extra programming languages on my Beeb |
23:59.22 | secretlondon | it was prob cartridges |