IRC log for #gllug on 20080106

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00:36.34z00daxre
00:37.44Discordianre
01:00.19Ch0Hag"So I really see no other point in having any type, other than plain string, defined in the database"
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01:11.34z00daxCh0Hag: you dont really mean that
02:06.09Discordiani've used some DBS
02:06.25Discordianthat only had strings
02:40.50Ch0Hag*I* didn't say that.
02:40.57Ch0HagAnd I'd shoot myself before I ever did.
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18:56.55boudiccashi dick_turpin
18:57.39dick_turpinboudicass :-D
18:59.30halisup
18:59.37haliwho was it here who had the n810?
19:00.02dick_turpinMe
19:00.16haliah cool
19:00.17dick_turpinOn it now
19:00.18haliis it any good?
19:00.28haliworth the cost, it's quite pricey
19:00.49dick_turpinYeah once you get used to it
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19:50.01z00daxrar!
19:50.06z00daxdrbd+ ftw!
19:52.45dick_turpin8-)
19:54.11z00daxhey dick_turpin, howse the n810 doing ? got it on irc as yet ?
19:55.06dick_turpinWell I'm on via pidgin at the moment
19:55.47dick_turpinClaws gave me grief today though
19:57.35antiphaseDon't use broken software then :)
19:58.40dick_turpinits not broken, the user is though :P
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20:22.17z00daxclaws is getting to a stage where its a fairly decent mail client
20:22.24z00daxi guess they still do need some more work though
20:44.04boudiccasi found that the only problem with claws, when i used it, was that it didn't save the emails in mbox format
20:45.30antiphasembox is a nasty ancient horrible format
20:45.51antiphaseWhy the fuck anyone would still use it is beyond me
20:45.52boudiccasi prefer it to the format that claws uses
20:46.12boudiccasantiphase; why do you have to swear to make a point?
20:46.20antiphaseI'd hope you use remote IMAP with Maildir
20:46.43antiphaseSwearing is the whole point of making a point with swearing.
20:46.57antiphaseOthersie, when else would you use it?
20:47.32boudiccaswhen you hit your thumb with a hammer, or something goes catastrophically wrong
20:48.07antiphasePeople using a rubbish email client is a catastophe to me
20:48.16boudiccasits their choice
20:48.49antiphaseCertainly; it doesn't mean I shouldn't attract their attention to a better alternative though
20:48.52antiphaseINNIT>
20:49.58boudiccasthey may not see it as a 'better alternative'
20:50.17z00daxboudiccas: i have all my email on a remote IMAP server so i can see it, in the same state , from different machines and devices
20:50.41z00daxso local storage is not something that bothers me at all. Actually, why should it bother you as well unless you plan on doing some sort of processing on it yourself ?
20:51.15z00daxi do, should say, use thunderbird almost everywhere else ( except laptop and n810 - where i use claws, just because it seems to give me better offline support )
20:51.57boudiccasi liked claws and would be using it now if it only had support for mbox
20:52.15boudiccasbut, each to their own :)
20:52.16antiphasembox died 10 years ago
20:52.26z00daxboudiccas: you might find it does do mbox
20:52.27antiphaseIt's a horrible format with terrible flaws
20:52.28boudiccasfunny how maine is still working then
20:52.59boudiccaslast time i checked z00dax it didn't support mbox, but that was probably about two years ago now
20:53.04boudiccas*mine
20:53.16z00dax2 years ago was prolly before they even called themslves claws
20:53.29z00daxi have it in the testing repo at c.k.o for centos5, give that a shot
20:53.39z00daxits a _lot_ quicker than thunderbird and kmail
20:55.55boudiccasz00dax; but i found that with the number of emails that i have stored in my mboxs that claws only kept them in MH format and therefore they took up a lot of space, over 2gigs worth
20:56.52antiphaseWElcome to why maildir was invented
20:57.10antiphaseAnd it's atomic blah blah blah SO MUCH BETTER
20:57.56z00daxboudiccas: storage concerns are not something i can even have
20:58.03z00daxmy email store at this time is 16 gigs on the imap server side
20:58.15z00daxnot sure why, and dont ask :D
20:58.59z00daxbut 2 gigs is well within the gmail limit, maybe you can just setup an imap store there and move the emails over ?
20:59.09z00daxyou only need to store headers locally then
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22:50.23antiphaseWe want dig!
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23:30.53Discordiangood evening

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