| 00:05.17 | wethrin | Humf. I would've pointed him at #madwifi as probably being more appropriate |
| 00:05.46 | Discordian | heh |
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| 07:49.31 | pdr | leeds: seeya soon! i'll give you a call over the weekend |
| 07:50.18 | Leeds | must remember to tell him to thank his mum and congratulate her... |
| 07:52.32 | etorix | http://files.myopera.com/zsoti/albums/280551/sataaa.jpg |
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| 09:12.12 | secretlondon | hi |
| 09:14.53 | bilarh | oh man, bring back the polish canteen people |
| 09:15.05 | bilarh | it's taking for*ever* getting anything in the canteen now |
| 09:15.43 | bilarh | at least the polish know how to add up money in their heads and they know how to make a good latte, quickly |
| 09:16.34 | Leeds | so who do they have now? |
| 09:16.46 | bilarh | some english people |
| 09:17.12 | bilarh | actually, the ye olde english lady is ok, but some of the other folks ... the mind boggles |
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| 09:36.46 | hali | how annoying |
| 09:36.52 | hali | at least you have a canteen |
| 09:37.02 | hali | we have a sandwich man :/ |
| 09:37.12 | hali | i never buy anything from him though, looks manky |
| 09:37.20 | hali | i go across the street to sylvios |
| 09:41.10 | bilarh | at least you have somethign decent across the streeet |
| 09:41.19 | bilarh | across the street from here is a ten minute walk to the nearest caf |
| 09:41.41 | bilarh | when I was a kid, we would have been happy to live in a lake! |
| 09:45.12 | hali | that was one of the best things about working in soho |
| 09:45.18 | hali | *everything* was across the street :-) |
| 09:45.21 | bilarh | yeah defeinitely |
| 09:45.34 | bilarh | i miss soho |
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| 13:04.09 | dick_turpin | ibot: poke bilarh |
| 13:04.10 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind bilarh, pokes bilarh repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
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| 13:19.00 | boudiccas | ibot: poke dick_turpin |
| 13:19.01 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind dick_turpin, pokes dick_turpin repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 13:19.36 | boudiccas | ah, i wondered if it was a random poking script |
| 13:19.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Shouldn't that be the other way round? Oh crap I'm still married |
| 13:19.40 | bilarh | hehe |
| 13:19.46 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:20.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You Nordic hunk |
| 13:20.23 | bilarh | dick_turpin: indeed *beams and gleams* |
| 13:20.35 | dick_turpin | Hunk of lard |
| 13:20.52 | bilarh | i prefer the term 'cuddly and soft' |
| 13:20.57 | dick_turpin | wobble bottom :-) |
| 13:21.25 | bilarh | you must have confused me with your mum |
| 13:21.56 | bilarh | i am so knackered today |
| 13:21.59 | bilarh | turn me into glue |
| 13:22.11 | bilarh | this is my third week working straigh |
| 13:22.12 | bilarh | t |
| 13:22.14 | bilarh | with no breaks |
| 13:22.21 | bilarh | i want my weekend, damnit |
| 13:23.23 | dick_turpin | you'd only spend it chasing pretty young things when you should be at home with the misses |
| 13:23.25 | hali | just had a weekend |
| 13:23.28 | hali | enjoy work while it lasts |
| 13:23.39 | bilarh | hali: aren't we positive today? :) |
| 13:23.49 | bilarh | hali: stock market jitters causing concern at work? |
| 13:23.58 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You working yet? (I've lost track of whats going on) |
| 13:24.00 | hali | bilarh: little bit, doesn't affect us massivly |
| 13:24.12 | bilarh | i like work, don't get me wrong, but it's nice to have a weekend every once in a while :) |
| 13:24.16 | hali | bilarh: fund raising on the bond market was just down 35% :) |
| 13:24.42 | hali | most clients pay a fixed subscription fee anyway, not based on deals |
| 13:25.53 | hali | there is some concern in the US though, we have a large muni bond system where the clients pay per deal.. that could be a problem |
| 13:26.14 | hali | and i think we're even joint issuer on those deals |
| 13:33.29 | dick_turpin | I love the idea the government has come up with for Northen Rock |
| 13:33.41 | dick_turpin | Use our tax money to bail them out |
| 13:34.20 | dick_turpin | Then get us to buy bonds with money have been taxed on to buy into a company |
| 13:34.25 | dick_turpin | propped up with our tax money in the 1st place |
| 13:39.08 | bilarh | dick_turpin: the government is a fucking shambles at the moment |
| 13:39.19 | bilarh | i was glad to be rid of tony blair, but now i want him back |
| 13:39.54 | bilarh | i loved the 0.75% rate cut yesterday as well, fucking mongs |
| 13:40.35 | bilarh | "hmm, people have got into problems and can't spend money because they've borrowed too much, what do we do?" "lower the cost of borrowing so they can borrow more" |
| 13:44.11 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I don't think its about that although you're probably right, I think they are shitting themselves people won't be able to pay the credit card bills |
| 13:45.42 | hali | well banks shouldn't give people massive overdrafts and credits |
| 13:45.56 | hali | if banks loose out on that they have themselves to blame |
| 13:47.16 | dick_turpin | hali: Now that I agree with, I had an argument with my sister in-law over that a few years back |
| 13:48.00 | dick_turpin | When people are in debt IMO its the banks fault not thiers, true they should have the sense to spend/borrow |
| 13:48.06 | hali | people can't be trusted, simple as that, i always assume the worst :) |
| 13:48.12 | hali | and if things turn out better, cool |
| 13:49.37 | dick_turpin | within thier means but when you get "Here have some money your a gold customer" well what you gonna do? |
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| 13:50.56 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Hi Ya |
| 13:51.19 | zmey_g | :) dick_turpin, hi |
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| 13:51.43 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i'm all for individual responsibility, so if someone wants to borrow 25k on a credit card, by all means do it, but don't come whinging if you can't pay it off |
| 13:52.19 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: i had my interview yesterday. |
| 13:53.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Thats slightly unfair, generally most people can afford it at the time but factors in banks going tits up etc? |
| 13:53.43 | dick_turpin | at the time but who factors |
| 13:53.57 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Did you get it? |
| 13:54.14 | bilarh | dick_turpin: maybe i'm just not as patronizing as you ;-) |
| 13:54.20 | zmey_g | it was good. hopefully i will get the job at the end pf the week |
| 13:56.37 | dick_turpin | bilarh: FO I'm serious I have a lone which I can/could well afford the repayments have gone up every month for the past 5 months now |
| 13:56.48 | dick_turpin | The last hike was £5.00 |
| 13:57.13 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: So you'll have loads od dosh then? |
| 13:57.21 | dick_turpin | of |
| 13:57.53 | dick_turpin | loan |
| 13:58.05 | dick_turpin | bloody phone |
| 13:58.25 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: no. but it will be finally it position. my first btw. |
| 13:59.53 | dick_turpin | zmey_g: Back in 1784 when I hadmy first job @ EDF Mann Sugar Quay opp tower of London my wage was £150 a month |
| 14:00.14 | dick_turpin | I ask the bank to pay me it in £1.00 notes so I could show off |
| 14:00.43 | dick_turpin | The Bank women was a little surprised and so was I seeing as my wallet wouldn't shut |
| 14:02.40 | Discordian | 1784! |
| 14:02.51 | Discordian | You're old school |
| 14:03.29 | etorix | i got paid in guineas in 1784 |
| 14:03.49 | dick_turpin | I was paid in groats actually |
| 14:04.08 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: back in 1784 my salary was paid with Lenin imprint at the back :) |
| 14:04.41 | Discordian | Hmmm |
| 14:07.13 | zmey_g | yes, and sickle and a hammer at the front of the note. |
| 14:07.47 | Discordian | Funny that Lenin was born in 1870 |
| 14:08.19 | Paul_UK | out of interest, anyone managed to get privoxy working with squid in transparent mode? |
| 14:08.22 | zmey_g | proper labor money... |
| 14:08.40 | Paul_UK | yes i tried #squid and will mail their list later |
| 14:14.13 | hali | bilarh: what programming language was it you studied a few years back? at those open uni courses? |
| 14:14.23 | hali | bilarh: similar to lisp or something |
| 14:21.17 | bilarh | hali: smalltalk, but it's not similar to lisp |
| 14:25.35 | hali | ah yes |
| 14:25.51 | hali | we where just talking about the recent raves against using java in colleges in the us |
| 14:25.58 | hali | as it has too little maths in it |
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| 16:31.20 | Discordian | Tis quiet |
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| 17:14.19 | nDJ_InsticT | any1 around who has setup postfix,ldap + spamassin? |
| 17:14.42 | nDJ_InsticT | spamassassin |
| 17:14.59 | Discordian | Not me , done sendmail + ldap + spamassassin |
| 17:15.51 | nDJ_InsticT | I need to set a flag in the ldap database to say yes or no to send to spamassassin |
| 17:16.38 | antiphase | ldapmodify HTH HAND |
| 17:16.49 | Discordian | Straight forward enough |
| 17:20.01 | nDJ_InsticT | yeah should be - if I knew more about postfix - starts reading docs :) |
| 17:20.34 | Discordian | Never touched postfix, I like sendmail |
| 17:21.38 | nDJ_InsticT | I am slowly getting there - having to use somebody elses setup ... |
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| 19:08.03 | Discordian | hi again |
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| 22:59.44 | Discordian | Re |
| 23:00.13 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.15 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.30 | z00dax | I am trying to book tickets, and i keep getting that in my ticket section |
| 23:00.32 | z00dax | what does that mean ? |
| 23:00.46 | z00dax | does it mean that the tickets I am buying are for people who are 60yrs + ? |
| 23:01.04 | Discordian | Yes looks that way |
| 23:01.14 | z00dax | but I didnt select that option anywhere |
| 23:01.27 | z00dax | there isnt even an option for that on the eurostar.com website |
| 23:01.31 | Discordian | heh |
| 23:02.58 | z00dax | oh man |
| 23:03.05 | z00dax | will need to call them in the morning |
| 23:03.41 | Discordian | You might ask em why a return is compulsory too |
| 23:04.00 | z00dax | i dont mind that, i do need to get back here :d |
| 23:04.19 | Discordian | Heh |
| 23:04.22 | z00dax | but the chances of me aging 31 years in 30 days is a bit slim |
| 23:04.30 | Discordian | Aye |
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| 23:06.38 | iAlbertoz | hi |
| 23:19.18 | z00dax | hello |
| 23:19.28 | Discordian | echo |
| 23:28.41 | Discordian | gah I miss having a working network at home |
| 23:30.03 | wethrin | z00dax: You've not heard Stallman speak.... |
| 23:30.06 | wethrin | (have you?) |
| 23:33.04 | Discordian | He voices one of the male voices on Festival |
| 23:33.22 | wethrin | Oh dear |
| 23:33.35 | Discordian | I used to greatly admire RMS |
| 23:33.40 | wethrin | echo THAT'S GNU SLASH LINUX OMGWTF | festival |
| 23:34.07 | Discordian | That was the issue that made me cease to like him |
| 23:34.44 | Discordian | Presumbly he thinks OpenSolaris is GNU/OpenSolaris |
| 23:35.42 | wethrin | He has some good ideas, and good point. But wrapped up in so much bullshit, it's hard to take him seriously |
| 23:35.52 | Discordian | If the Hurd had actually existed I'd never have gone the linux route |
| 23:36.23 | wethrin | The Hurd suffers from Computer Science-itis |
| 23:36.28 | Discordian | But 20 years on it's still vapid |
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| 23:36.39 | wethrin | While in theory it's a very very neat design, and all that.... |
| 23:36.43 | wethrin | ...it's just not practical |
| 23:36.52 | Discordian | Quite so |
| 23:36.54 | wethrin | Where's Linux, which is quite a shit design, took off because it worked |
| 23:37.02 | Discordian | Indeed |
| 23:37.36 | Discordian | I ran Microport SysV 2.3 on my AT |
| 23:37.44 | Discordian | Then Coherent |
| 23:38.02 | Discordian | which was rather strange |
| 23:38.12 | wethrin | Coherent....that was a Unix-like non-Unix system, wasn't it? |
| 23:38.15 | wethrin | Like Plan9 |
| 23:38.23 | Discordian | It was unix like |
| 23:38.30 | Discordian | commercial |
| 23:38.40 | wethrin | mmm |
| 23:38.53 | Discordian | But not derived from the unix/bsd sources |
| 23:39.32 | wethrin | Ah, complete rewrite, then |
| 23:39.41 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 23:40.14 | Discordian | But fairly funky |
| 23:40.58 | Discordian | I still have a Coherent manual inmy bookshelf |
| 23:41.08 | Discordian | I have fond memories of it |
| 23:41.23 | wethrin | Never played with it, so I can't remember why it sticks in my brain |
| 23:41.45 | Discordian | mark Williams company made it |
| 23:42.04 | Discordian | They did a nice C compiler on the Amiga too |
| 23:43.04 | wethrin | Ahhhhh.....did Coherent run on the Amiga too? |
| 23:43.12 | Discordian | No |
| 23:43.45 | Discordian | The only unix on the lower Amigas was Minix |
| 23:44.20 | Discordian | One later model was the reference platform, for SVR4.2 |
| 23:44.57 | wethrin | Hm. I'm still trying to think of what context I have come across Coherent. I know it wasn't just an idle pass through the Unix history |
| 23:47.28 | Discordian | Most people know not of Coherent |
| 23:49.34 | Discordian | MWC C ran on the ST too |
| 23:50.43 | Discordian | wiki suggests Coherent ran on PDP-11s too |
| 23:52.13 | Discordian | And whatever the CBM 900 was |
| 23:52.44 | wethrin | Some Commodore, I assume |
| 23:53.08 | Discordian | Aye |
