IRC log for #gllug on 20080130

00:01.35murbgood evening.
00:05.55aguaithefreakgood ....morning?
00:07.30secretlondonam here
00:08.37secretlondonalthough it's kinda lunchtime on current secretlondon time
00:09.02etorixthis gubmint want stabbing http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7213917.stm
00:10.36wethrinAhh....STFC
00:11.06secretlondonmy astronomer friends are very unhappy
00:11.15secretlondonas you'd imagine
00:12.29wethrinIndeed
00:17.03murbsecretlondon: it would be ironic if parliment wsa destroyed by an incoming near earth object that wasn't detected due to their budget cuts.
00:18.51secretlondonbit crap for those of us who live in London
00:19.59etorixwell, they had their go, this lot
00:23.48wethrinnight, all
00:24.46secretlondonnight
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03:15.52catalysttrue or false?
03:18.25Discordian5
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08:53.08haliapu
08:54.52Leedsnahasapenapetalon - uh, nahasapeemapetilon
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10:27.02bilarhmorning
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11:40.39halimorning
11:43.19bilarhtalkative bunch :)
11:43.32bilarheveryone should have some alcohol or something
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13:14.59dick_turpinibot: wake everyone up
13:15.00ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on everyone up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
13:25.44bilarhibot: feck off
13:40.58bilarhi've started joggign a bit
13:41.08bilarhi don't recommend anyone take it up
13:50.23etorixmy uncle dies jogging
13:50.32etorixdied*
13:51.01etorixjust after he promised me his cameras an flew back to usa
13:51.51bilarh:-O
13:51.56bilarhthat's *not* what I wanted to hear!
13:52.03bilarhwas it a heart attack?
13:58.49bilarhhehe
13:58.58bilarhgllug is losing its lugstre i feel
13:59.07bilarhnobody ever has arguments in here anymore
13:59.15bilarhor in fact, any kind of conversation
13:59.19bilarhbring back morsing :)
13:59.33dick_turpinSorry did someone say something?
13:59.40etorixmorsing!
13:59.40bilarhno
14:00.02etorix... ---...
14:00.19dick_turpinbilarh: So you want a bit of a flame-game then?
14:00.27etorixdammit i cant do CQD
14:00.47bilarhdick_turpin: i just want some action
14:00.57bilarhdick_turpin: why don't you go on the game, and then i'll get some
14:01.42dick_turpinWindows is a fantastic operating system that does not deserve the ill informed slander it gets :-)
14:01.50etorixis he a  lovely_boy?
14:02.08bilarhdick_turpin is for liking windows
14:02.30etorixpervert then
14:02.42bilarhwell, he's just a pervert in general
14:03.04dick_turpinI've swum the depths of depravity :-)
14:03.08bilarhonce i overheard him say "but I tell you, that little girl was sexy"
14:03.22bilarhdick_turpin: not quite deep enough for that though :P
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14:05.15dick_turpinbilarh: Hm I once had a deep and meaningful relationship, well not very meaningful but boy was it deep!
14:06.03bilarhdick_turpin: maybe it was you being too short?
14:07.09bilarhah ffs, i hate politically correct peolpe
14:07.18bilarhi've now offended about half my team
14:07.31bilarhmy colleague said "dell are designing pc's to help combat aids in africa"
14:07.34dick_turpinbilarh: You saying I'm a midget?
14:07.42bilarhand i said "why don't they just design condoms instead"
14:07.53bilarhand apparently, that's a rude thing to say
14:08.10bilarhdick_turpin: only in parts, you know :P
14:09.25dick_turpinbilarh: They have a form of birth control in Kenya its called a machete
14:11.10bilarhdick_turpin: hehe :)
14:11.32bilarhahem, i mean "i take offence at that comment"
14:20.57LeedsHKhello
14:21.27bilarhleed!
14:21.30bilarhs!
14:22.28LeedsHKye!
14:22.29LeedsHKs!
14:22.33bilarh;-)
14:23.09LeedsHKhow's life in sunny London?
14:23.26bilarhit *is* actually sunny for once
14:23.35LeedsHKcold and rainy here :-(
14:23.44bilarhah, for once :D
14:24.23bilarhnot that i'm happy that we for ocne have better weather or anything, of course
14:24.38LeedsHKoh, it's almost certainly warmer here - and at's past 10pm
14:24.41LeedsHKit's
14:24.49bilarhat least it's raining :)
14:25.18etorixis it?
14:25.26bilarhisn't it? :)
14:25.28bilarh:(
14:25.45etorixi went out yesterday, thought it was warmer, but it bloody wasnt
14:25.56LeedsHKyeah, it's raining
14:25.58etorixi took a layer off, even
14:26.08etorixgreat doomy skies tho
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14:26.34etorixnow i has sniffles
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14:36.30etorixand sneezes
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14:45.23etorixno rain here, john
14:48.07etorixhmm ., i might trade up to 4mb
14:48.28etorixi hear 4 will get bumped to 10mb later
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16:44.16Ch0HagAre recruiters wilfully stupid?
16:44.25Ch0Hag"Unfortunately our client is looking for Red Hat experience in particular and therefore this may not be the right role for you."
16:45.59antiphaseWelcome to recruitment by keyword
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16:49.15Ch0HagYeah unfortunatly my years of experience are only with Linux, net RedHat.
17:04.18wethrinrecuiters are a shower of cunts
17:09.07boudiccasCh0Hag; whats the position theyre recruiting for?
17:13.15Ch0HagLinux sysadmin.
17:16.18Ch0HagOh ffs.
17:16.28Ch0Hag"Have you been using this in your most recent roles?  If so, can you please include this in your CV wherever possible?"
17:16.53Ch0HagI don't even know if it's worth it.
17:17.01Ch0HagThey not really paying much.
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17:18.32Ch0HagPlus I'll have to be a bit creative because I haven't actually used RH commercially in aeons.
17:19.48boudiccasCh0Hag; have you used centos, white box or fedora? surely they would also count
17:19.58Ch0HagNot in some time.
17:19.59darkpacthi what are the plans for the next meet?
17:20.34Ch0HagAll I have to do is just remove from my methodoligy any of the logic I use when running Debian and hey presto - RedHat.
17:20.45boudiccas:)
17:22.12boudiccashave you got a spare box you can bung centos onto. then you can honestly say that you're using centos
17:22.36boudiccas*biased
17:22.41darkpactwhat about chainsaw linux lol
17:22.53darkpacttbh, you can't do much with it but the name sounds cool
17:22.55Ch0HagMeh. I can just set up a VM.
17:23.46wethrindarkpact: 15th March
17:24.40boudiccasCh0Hag; do it! you know you want to! :)
17:24.53darkpacti have given up on enabling the built in bluetooth on my toshiba notebook on gutsy 7.10, could use some help then
17:26.01darkpactwhat would be the problem in a shoot em up game, this case kraptor under gnome where the sound is choppy but it plays ok
17:26.34darkpactalso when i use the mouse to move the ship, the whole game becomes choppy. my guess is you are moving the mouse outside the window and back onto the desktop.
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17:31.57darkpact-totally odd, my wireless is at 85% strength but i still get discon
17:32.24darkpact-o2 peers with be internet so should be alright tbh
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17:38.30darkpact-thought about moving the chan to efnet? i know a bit chaotic but it'll alright now
17:38.49darkpact-irc.freenode.net pool has people in europe connecting the LA sometimes
17:39.07boudiccasit aint broke so why try ot fix it???
17:39.10boudiccas*to
17:39.15darkpact-to LA
17:39.47darkpact-well the network dosn't allow ctcp requests
17:39.53darkpact-due o abuse or somthing
17:41.48darkpact-it's just for unregistered nicks
17:50.50etorixoftc is ok
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17:51.05etorixefnet is full of eejits
17:51.27darkpact-well it's full of teenagers with loads of eggdrops
17:51.42darkpact-but some server admins are cool, ie nice motd's etc
17:52.16etorixgood for warez
17:52.28etorixnot oss
17:53.46darkpactis Cedega worth it for games?
17:55.04etorixi cant be bothered, either native linux games or xp
17:55.55darkpactit's quite mature, however there are more linux loaders for games coming out now, like quake 4
17:55.57etorixut2k4 is nicer on sidux than anywin
17:56.14darkpacthowever WoW is the only thing i will run under Wine anyway4
17:57.32etorixdoom3 ran ok too
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20:40.57secretlondonello
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21:46.21DiscordianGood evening
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21:59.53secretlo1donrehi
22:02.07DiscordianHi
22:03.08secretlo1donah you can see I've logged in from eco.li as I don't have qa cloak on this account
22:03.15secretlo1don-q
22:04.42secretlo1donanyone know if the bruce perens thing is happening?
22:05.02DiscordianI've no idea I'm afraid
22:10.35secretlo1don300 meg update
22:10.49secretlo1donboo hiss at running alpha software
22:15.26Discordianwhat alpha software is it?
22:15.42secretlo1donubuntu's next lts edition
22:15.57secretlo1doni'm running it on this machine (my laptop)
22:16.06secretlo1dondue april
22:16.16secretlo1donhardy heron
22:17.09secretlo1donit's a bit fuxxored as it's only giving me 800x600 screen and xorg.conf is automgaically configured which is a pain
22:17.19antiphaseAre you actually filing bug reports or just doing it for the luls?
22:17.35antiphasedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
22:17.38secretlo1donluls?
22:18.12DiscordianJust edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
22:18.31secretlo1donobviously bug reported, and xorg.conf in the new X is empty basically
22:18.47secretlo1donas well as that I should try and see if they fix it
22:19.07DiscordianWhat res is the device natively?
22:19.14secretlo1don1024x768
22:19.57DiscordianJust stick a Modeline "1024x768" "800x600" in
22:20.46secretlo1donits finding the monitor as a max 800x600 - it's a bug in the trident driver I think as it is finding it as 1024x768 elsewhere
22:21.07DiscordianHmmm
22:21.42Discordiani guess it depends what EDID reports
22:21.43antiphaseIgnoreDDC then maybe
22:21.50antiphaseor IgnoreEDID then :)
22:22.29DiscordianI usually hack up my xorg.conf anyway
22:22.31secretlo1donthink ddc is broken from reading org.0.log
22:22.59secretlo1donit's a bit weird as xorg.conf as everything as "configured monitor" etc
22:24.10DiscordianBut I like my current config 1280x11024 on the CRT, 1280x800 on the laptop LCD
22:24.20Discordianand Compiz works well
22:24.26secretlo1don(II) Loading sub module "ddc"
22:24.26secretlo1don(II) LoadModule: "ddc"(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
22:24.27secretlo1donf000:38a1: 01 ILLEGAL EXTENDED X86 OPCODE!
22:24.39secretlo1dontrident is a pile of poo
22:24.45DiscordianErrk
22:24.50antiphaseIt must be ancient by now
22:24.54secretlo1donyeah
22:25.01secretlo1donthis is a celeron 1200
22:25.08secretlo1dontwas free
22:25.17antiphaseYou'd be better off with DeadRat 8 :)
22:25.30DiscordianRH8 is ancient
22:26.15Discordianmega sploit tastic
22:26.58secretlo1donhowever I'm sure my old loki games would be happier..
22:27.20DiscordianQuake 2 etc?
22:27.28secretlo1donalpha centauri
22:27.42DiscordianI guess if I reverted to RH8
22:28.01DiscordianI could run Perfect Office and Kylix again
22:30.38secretlo1donit finds (--) TRIDENT(0): TFT Panel 1024x768 found and then uses the default horiz sync and v refresh and then says that 1024x768 is out of range
22:31.23secretlo1doni cna have a play onve it's finally upgraded itself and I can see if they have fixed the mad crash bug
22:31.36Discordianheh
22:33.20secretlo1don7 minutes
22:43.37secretlo1dondownloaded, now the long configure
22:43.43secretlo1dongod my life is exciting
22:45.17catalyst:o
22:47.36DiscordianHeh
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