| 00:52.55 | LeedsHK | blah, shower time |
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| 07:58.44 | hali | morrn |
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| 09:36.09 | Ch0Hag | Axel: Segebrecht? |
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| 10:11.15 | Axel | Matthew? |
| 10:11.38 | Ch0Hag | Ja. |
| 10:11.43 | Axel | :-) |
| 10:11.48 | Axel | how the hell are ya mate? |
| 10:11.58 | Ch0Hag | Wie gehts? |
| 10:12.01 | Ch0Hag | Oh, good. |
| 10:12.04 | Ch0Hag | I'm getting married. |
| 10:12.34 | Ch0Hag | I don't know if that's spelled correctly (or even if the words are right) - my German's only gotworse recently. |
| 10:12.56 | Ch0Hag | Incidentally my mailserver still bounces spam destined for you. |
| 10:14.21 | Axel | sorry - one sec |
| 10:14.56 | Axel | that's great news! |
| 10:14.59 | Axel | congrat's |
| 10:15.05 | Axel | danke, mir geht's gut |
| 10:15.08 | Axel | dein deutsch ist super |
| 10:15.09 | Axel | :-) |
| 10:15.19 | Ch0Hag | Hah! |
| 10:15.43 | Ch0Hag | Mein deutsch wast ... never super. |
| 10:16.00 | Ch0Hag | And now I mix it up with a combination of Ukrainian and Russion, too. |
| 10:16.05 | Axel | lol |
| 10:16.06 | Axel | how come? |
| 10:16.16 | Ch0Hag | My future wife is Ukrainian. |
| 10:16.50 | Ch0Hag | And most languages have (or seem to have) a bit of German in their roots somewhere. |
| 10:18.46 | Ch0Hag | How's life? |
| 10:18.51 | Ch0Hag | I see you're back in Germany. |
| 10:20.03 | Axel | cool |
| 10:20.41 | Axel | life's good - moving back to the UK this year |
| 10:20.55 | Axel | three years back in the fatherland are enough to drive anyone nuts! |
| 10:20.56 | Axel | :-) |
| 10:20.59 | Ch0Hag | Oh. And I thought it was safe to let the women back out. |
| 10:21.04 | Axel | how are things with you mate? |
| 10:21.10 | Axel | hehe |
| 10:21.18 | Ch0Hag | Not bad, though currently jobless. |
| 10:21.21 | Axel | almost got married myself... |
| 10:21.28 | Axel | what have you been up to?= |
| 10:22.05 | Ch0Hag | I used to be a bit of a twat (well, a bit more than a bit) so I've had a piss-poor job history, and now it's back to bite me on the arse right when I don't need it to. |
| 10:22.35 | Ch0Hag | Scraping through by the skin of my teeth mostly. |
| 10:23.07 | Ch0Hag | A bit of development for a two-bit company. Some sysadmin for another two-bit company. |
| 10:23.11 | Ch0Hag | Both of whom still owe me money. |
| 10:23.46 | Axel | give it a name |
| 10:23.50 | Axel | sorry to hear that |
| 10:24.17 | Ch0Hag | Meh. It's mostly my own fault. |
| 10:24.22 | Axel | was like that before i left and got a proper job... now that everything's paid off, i'm going freelance again lol |
| 10:24.25 | Ch0Hag | Timing's pretty awful though. |
| 10:24.32 | Axel | well, you know what they say... |
| 10:24.35 | Axel | usually is |
| 10:24.44 | Axel | murphy's law |
| 10:24.46 | Ch0Hag | Yeah I'm trying that. Actually finding clients isn't my strong point though. |
| 10:24.54 | Ch0Hag | ie. I have 2. |
| 10:25.03 | Ch0Hag | Well 1.5, really. |
| 10:25.10 | Ch0Hag | Since they're in the same office. |
| 10:26.14 | Axel | what kinda work you looking for? |
| 10:26.23 | Ch0Hag | Sysadmin and/or dev. |
| 10:26.27 | Ch0Hag | Preferably admin. |
| 10:26.30 | wethrin | hi Axel |
| 10:26.43 | Ch0Hag | Dev is fun and I like to keep it that way. |
| 10:27.57 | Axel | hi dan |
| 10:29.06 | Axel | funny... |
| 10:29.51 | Axel | after years of not bothering with hosting services, i'm just getting back into it to support the primary business (oh god that sounds bad...) |
| 10:30.50 | Ch0Hag | I still host behind my adsl. |
| 10:31.00 | Ch0Hag | Good machine, actually. Shame about the bandwidth though. |
| 10:33.12 | Ch0Hag | Oh dear. |
| 10:33.23 | Ch0Hag | NatWest have written to say they're going to increase my overhraft. |
| 10:33.27 | Ch0Hag | overdraft |
| 10:38.05 | Axel | sorry for the lag - boss is around |
| 10:38.22 | Ch0Hag | Of the PH variety? |
| 10:38.28 | Axel | ph? |
| 10:38.34 | Ch0Hag | Point-haired - see dilbert. |
| 10:38.40 | Axel | ahh |
| 10:39.15 | Axel | in fact he is |
| 10:39.27 | Axel | quite annoying actually having to work for a living ;-) |
| 10:40.08 | Axel | are you still in london? |
| 10:40.14 | Ch0Hag | Aye. |
| 10:43.38 | Ch0Hag | Not central, but that doesn't make much difference. |
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| 20:07.04 | Discordian | Hmmm F9 Alpha alrready |
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| 21:54.06 | Discordian | Re |
| 22:34.46 | highbury | I should check whether F9 will boot on my machine, F8 certainly didn't (all sata based machine) |
| 22:35.32 | Discordian | Hmmm |
| 22:35.53 | Discordian | That was a problem with early F8 betas |
| 22:36.08 | Discordian | Related to the switch to libata |
| 22:36.17 | highbury | and F8 final DVD x86_64 version |
| 22:36.37 | Discordian | Not tried it on x86_64 |
| 22:37.20 | highbury | bit of a bugger, the machine boots off the DVD, then refuses to recognise it later on :-( |
| 22:37.38 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 22:38.01 | highbury | Centos 5.1 and Ubuntu 7.10 had the same problem, so I could only install openSUSE 10.3 |
| 22:38.30 | Discordian | Ook |
| 22:39.01 | antiphase | Sounds like cheap hardware to me |
| 22:40.28 | highbury | latest shuttle with SATA DVD-Writer |
| 22:41.18 | etorix | shuttle can be tricky |
| 22:41.31 | murb | new hardware, you get to debug it :-) |
| 22:41.51 | murb | highbury: anything in dmesg, when it is not later seen? |
| 22:42.00 | murb | does it show up in lsusb ? |
| 22:42.21 | etorix | ubuntu64 never got my clockchip on da shuttle |
| 22:43.31 | murb | or lspci? |
| 22:49.24 | Discordian | I ought to install F8 on my x86_64 box |
| 22:50.17 | Discordian | Or try at least |
| 22:50.30 | Discordian | Since it's also SATA |
| 22:58.03 | highbury | I tried going cutting edge all sata, and ripped out all ide cables |
| 22:58.53 | Discordian | Heh |
| 22:59.07 | highbury | nothing useful was really said in the dmesg, as it descends into kernel issues, which can't be back page keyed |
| 23:01.32 | highbury | its times like that you want to be able to boot via a serial connection, so you can capture all the output |
| 23:06.19 | Discordian | Log via syslog to another box?# |
| 23:13.44 | murb | or netconsole |
| 23:13.48 | murb | which is really neat! |
| 23:14.59 | Discordian | Is that what I think it is? |
| 23:15.34 | Discordian | VNC on install? |
| 23:19.00 | murb | nope |
| 23:19.06 | murb | it is kernel messages over the network |
| 23:19.12 | murb | very simple starts from early boot |
| 23:19.30 | murb | helps if you have the ethernet driver built in if you crash before modules are loaded. |
| 23:19.39 | Discordian | Ahhh okay |
| 23:19.46 | Discordian | Sounds interesting |
| 23:20.19 | murb | I boot a machine with netconsole=4444@88.198.54.53/eth0,514@88.198.54.52/00:16:17:EE:53:98 as an example |
| 23:20.25 | murb | no arp etc |
| 23:20.33 | murb | so you have to hardcode the mac of the machine / router |
| 23:20.36 | murb | and everything |
| 23:21.10 | Discordian | Oh right |