00:32.25 | cpufreak | woo |
00:32.34 | cpufreak | its been escalated to IBM *developers* |
00:33.23 | cpufreak | the guys who write the bleeding filesystem |
00:34.18 | wethrin | Sounds like it's a bug, then! |
00:38.20 | cpufreak | :( |
00:38.28 | cpufreak | hope its not data loss |
00:38.33 | cpufreak | I mean its only quite a small FS at the minute |
00:38.37 | cpufreak | 28TB or so |
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10:40.03 | secretlondon | hi |
10:59.02 | bilarh | morning |
11:04.01 | hali | morning |
11:16.40 | bilarh | bloody hell i'm so tired |
11:16.53 | bilarh | i'm sitting here almost falling asleep for real |
11:17.02 | bilarh | every so often i can feel my eye lids closing up |
11:17.21 | bilarh | i bet it will look good if the big boss comes down with me sitting here on my chair snoring |
11:21.02 | cpufreak | you don't know tired |
11:21.07 | cpufreak | try working 130hr weeks |
11:21.26 | bilarh | you da man |
11:21.44 | cpufreak | no |
11:21.45 | cpufreak | IBM the suck |
11:22.05 | bilarh | heh |
11:22.35 | bilarh | over two weekends in jan i had 67.5 hours overtime |
11:22.38 | bilarh | for a similar issue |
11:22.51 | cpufreak | ah well |
11:22.55 | bilarh | although mine was hardware related |
11:22.59 | cpufreak | I',m in a special situation |
11:23.04 | bilarh | did they get back to you yet? |
11:23.08 | cpufreak | IBM alternatel say |
11:23.13 | cpufreak | 1) not licensed to use GPFS |
11:23.22 | cpufreak | 2) no support contract |
11:23.27 | cpufreak | 3) not a supoorted lnux distribution |
11:23.34 | bilarh | nice :P |
11:23.42 | bilarh | is your site live yet? |
11:23.43 | cpufreak | 4) not running a supported raid configuration |
11:23.46 | bilarh | or was it live, rather? :P |
11:23.53 | cpufreak | went live 48hrs ago |
11:23.57 | bilarh | ouch |
11:24.07 | cpufreak | been down 20hrs now |
11:24.14 | cpufreak | anyway |
11:24.14 | bilarh | not a great start :-\ |
11:24.21 | cpufreak | 1) we're licensed.. have them sitting in front of me |
11:24.29 | cpufreak | 2) we're supported, have contrract sitting in front of me |
11:24.37 | cpufreak | 3) supported on Ubuntu, have pledge sitting in front of me |
11:24.48 | cpufreak | 4) running raid configuration proposed by IBM solutions architect |
11:24.56 | bilarh | sue their ass |
11:24.57 | cpufreak | so its great |
11:24.59 | cpufreak | well |
11:25.03 | cpufreak | I'm pondering boxing it up |
11:25.09 | cpufreak | and couriering it to them |
11:25.23 | bilarh | don't forget to send a box with dog turds as well |
11:25.31 | cpufreak | no need |
11:25.42 | cpufreak | half the IBM equipment was the wrong spec (wrong riser cards etc) |
11:25.46 | cpufreak | some more of it was DOA |
11:26.05 | bilarh | damn, good job we went for lsi and not some premium brand like ibm for storage |
11:27.21 | bilarh | murb: spoilsport |
11:27.31 | cpufreak | please pm me any pertinent information |
11:27.33 | bilarh | murb: can't you tell us some stories about "another supplier I've worked with" |
11:27.40 | bilarh | call them dim |
11:27.58 | bilarh | erm, taht wasn't quite an anagram, i just realised... need more coffee |
11:29.08 | murb | bilarh: you mean hal? |
11:29.38 | bilarh | murb: possibly, tell us about your experiences :) |
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11:33.02 | bilarh | cpufreak: so what's not actually working on the site? |
11:33.10 | bilarh | cpufreak: or is it the actual app that's not working? |
11:33.14 | cpufreak | erm |
11:33.18 | cpufreak | the filesystem crashed yesterday |
11:33.21 | cpufreak | and wont restart |
11:33.29 | cpufreak | filesystem = GPFS |
11:33.32 | bilarh | cpufreak: yeah i know but how is it affecting the end user experience, i mean |
11:33.38 | bilarh | i read back earlier :) |
11:33.51 | cpufreak | no |
11:33.55 | cpufreak | this is internal storage |
11:33.58 | cpufreak | just 23TB or so |
11:34.01 | cpufreak | used in XCD |
11:34.01 | bilarh | oh right |
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11:56.57 | Blapto | Hi |
12:05.01 | Blapto | I'm going to send out an e-mail, but do any London based sysadmins want to work for Ticketmaster? |
12:06.02 | murb | Blapto: do you work for them? |
12:06.23 | murb | or are you trying to pimp your existing job? |
12:06.29 | Blapto | I do. It's not my job you'll be having, but be in the same team as me. |
12:06.45 | Blapto | Two sysadmin positions going. |
12:07.00 | Blapto | Mainly linux, a little windows, a little solaris. |
12:07.12 | Blapto | And a little BSD |
12:07.37 | murb | Blapto: do you have to live inside the m25? |
12:08.03 | murb | and where approx. in london? |
12:08.42 | Blapto | You can live where you like. I'm fairly sure my boss lives in France and commutes in every day (well, he's in Kent, but closer to France than London.) We're in Leicester Square. |
12:09.22 | murb | travelling west wouldn't be so bad. |
12:09.34 | murb | if they make it fast enough you could arrive before you left! |
12:09.46 | Blapto | True. |
12:09.58 | etorix | France to London, every day |
12:10.06 | Blapto | Yeah, it's a joke. He lives in Kent. |
12:10.16 | murb | etorix: oh i'd not live in france! |
12:10.18 | Blapto | He gets very angry when people ask him how France is today. |
12:11.08 | murb | Blapto: oh he should check the weather every day in preperation for that question. |
12:11.39 | Blapto | I think he could just make it up, none of us are going to verify it. |
12:12.15 | etorix | gah, this app's manpage comes up like its in a hexeditor |
12:12.50 | etorix | bugger this for a game of soldiers |
12:13.45 | etorix | maintainer is french, too |
12:14.01 | Blapto | Ask him how the weather is. |
12:15.03 | etorix | hes hexed |
12:15.47 | Blapto | murb: Have we met? |
12:16.28 | murb | Blapto: I don't know, i've been living in germany since 2005 |
12:16.49 | Blapto | Ah, so unlikely |
12:17.09 | Blapto | I think I'm confused between you and morsing |
12:20.07 | murb | oh please don't do that! |
12:20.15 | Blapto | I promise not to. |
12:20.18 | wethrin | Blapto! |
12:20.19 | murb | thanks :-) |
12:20.24 | Blapto | wethrin! |
12:20.27 | murb | wethrin: oh you're being morsing for the day? |
12:20.51 | Blapto | Who keeps asking me if I'm someone else because we have the same name? Ahhh, so confused. |
12:21.48 | wethrin | murb: Where's Blapto? |
12:21.57 | Blapto | Here! Here! |
12:22.03 | wethrin | No, I'll stop it now |
12:26.52 | Blapto | murb: did you go to the GLLUG meet on the Maple Leaf (Covent Garden) about 3 years ago? |
12:27.48 | murb | Blapto: probably not, but if you've been to fosdem i you may have seen me. |
12:28.08 | Blapto | I haven't |
12:32.31 | wethrin | Was it 3 years ago? |
12:33.00 | Blapto | Well, I remember not being old enough to buy my own drinks, and I'm 20 now. |
12:33.09 | wethrin | Hmm |
12:33.11 | wethrin | Youngster |
12:34.34 | Blapto | Not my fault |
12:35.22 | wethrin | I blame your parents |
12:35.40 | Blapto | I blame the amout of time I've spent in a TARDIS |
12:35.57 | murb | i mean wtf? |
12:36.04 | wethrin | murb: But you look over 18! |
12:37.14 | etorix | he IS morsing! |
12:37.24 | murb | etorix: hmm, no way! |
12:37.31 | etorix | >verb< |
12:38.32 | etorix | ok, i see the cam i want, at the price i want , now CAN I HAVE IT IN BLACK |
12:38.40 | etorix | noo effin way |
12:38.50 | Blapto | Out of interest, etorix, which camera? |
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12:39.10 | etorix | Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX12 |
12:39.12 | secretlondon | ok. vodafone unblock irc just to annoy me |
12:39.21 | wethrin | :) |
12:39.30 | secretlondon | as this isn't using socks |
12:39.48 | etorix | 100 quid, leica lens |
12:40.21 | Blapto | Looks decent |
12:40.39 | etorix | not the top model, not dear either |
12:40.40 | wethrin | Bah. You want a Nikon D80, you do |
12:41.07 | etorix | and panasonic make leica's anyway |
12:41.22 | etorix | well, i has nikons film cameras |
12:41.31 | etorix | and serious glass |
12:41.40 | etorix | no working bodies tho |
12:42.16 | etorix | i want a pocket cam, and a leica is acceptable |
12:43.28 | etorix | the leica version has leica firmware, is all |
12:43.34 | etorix | same hw |
12:45.03 | Blapto | You want a D300 like me :) |
12:45.05 | secretlondon | vodafone even block access to the xchat manual |
12:45.10 | Blapto | I'm not a D300... I have one though. |
12:46.16 | etorix | no i dont, id want a FM2 |
12:46.28 | etorix | or two |
12:46.45 | etorix | but im not carrying that around |
12:47.03 | etorix | 2 x bodies + 4 lenses |
12:47.17 | etorix | done that got the curved spine |
12:47.43 | etorix | i want a pocket cam, and a leica is acceptable, with a pnone to up to |
12:48.03 | wethrin | No, you want Nikons. None of this Canon rubbish! |
12:48.31 | etorix | canons actually have good chips, i never bought one tho |
12:48.54 | etorix | i has some leica kit, like a ol enlarger, prewar |
12:49.14 | etorix | came covered in pigeonshit |
12:49.57 | etorix | Nikon were very nice tio me in tokyo, actually |
12:50.17 | etorix | my f2 got bent |
12:50.38 | etorix | and they pushed me to the front of the queue |
12:50.56 | etorix | and fixed it free, with a kind of excited glee |
12:51.25 | etorix | they love old gaijin comin in with ancient working nikons |
12:51.28 | Blapto | Ooh, an F2. I'm really tempted to pick up a voigtlander R2M |
12:52.28 | etorix | mechanical nikons dont break much, or batts run down |
12:52.42 | Blapto | Batts don't run down on an F2, do they? You just lose the meter? |
12:52.53 | etorix | separate meter |
12:53.08 | etorix | luna summink |
12:53.22 | etorix | no meter on the f2 |
12:53.31 | etorix | didnt get one |
12:53.54 | etorix | didnt want one |
12:54.45 | etorix | luna summink with a spotmeter thingie |
12:56.48 | etorix | # |
12:56.49 | etorix | Nikon Coolpix S700 |
12:57.04 | Blapto | Have you seen the Sigma DP1? |
12:57.07 | etorix | i nearly bough, thats now my second choice |
12:57.16 | etorix | not really interested |
12:57.35 | etorix | nikon or leica[ish], now |
12:57.55 | etorix | and i want a modern leica equiv |
12:58.05 | etorix | but IN BLACK pls |
12:58.18 | etorix | heres a hundred quid |
12:58.19 | Blapto | Bessa R2M |
12:58.25 | Blapto | That's black. |
12:58.43 | Blapto | Or a Bessa R is probably <£100 second hand, but it's a bit crap. |
12:58.50 | etorix | i has a gorgeous voigtlander heliar 210 mm |
12:59.01 | etorix | 5x4 lens |
12:59.15 | Blapto | Oh, right, was going to say that's an odd focal length for a rangefinder. |
12:59.40 | etorix | well, it did go on my linhof rangefinder |
12:59.51 | etorix | sold that in tokyo tho |
12:59.52 | Blapto | Well, a 135/35mm rangefinder |
13:00.18 | etorix | 6x9 rangefinder |
13:00.33 | etorix | ju man yen |
13:00.58 | Blapto | Get thyself an M8... Not quite £100 though. |
13:01.10 | etorix | nah, too big |
13:01.19 | etorix | too valuable |
13:01.36 | Blapto | Yes, that is an issue sometimes. Reminds me that I need to sort out my photographic insurance today. |
13:01.49 | etorix | and i want a modern leica equiv POCKET cam |
13:02.00 | Blapto | Digital? |
13:02.09 | etorix | not worth being mugged for |
13:02.32 | Blapto | Show the chav it's a film camera, they won't be interested. |
13:02.40 | etorix | sure, with talk-to-phone + computer easy capalility |
13:03.32 | etorix | i could shoot film if i wanted |
13:03.53 | etorix | i picked up some 8x10 darkslides a few weeks ago |
13:04.02 | etorix | down the road, in a skip |
13:04.23 | etorix | i has hangers an tanks, |
13:04.34 | etorix | thats not what this is for |
13:07.21 | etorix | Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX12 Digital Camera |
13:07.31 | etorix | Currys Price ?99.89 |
13:07.50 | etorix | argos prolly has em |
13:07.51 | Blapto | Have you had a browse through dpreview? |
13:09.06 | etorix | then there nokias with tessars, several now |
13:09.43 | etorix | a few SD cards, an im off to somewhere |
13:10.12 | Blapto | Tiny tiny little lenses though. Sony make some decent phones with cameras attached |
13:10.54 | etorix | thats not that important, display/upload facility is more key |
13:11.18 | Blapto | Oooh, interesting ligature bug. |
13:11.45 | Blapto | Firefox in debian unstable (dist-upgrade d today) renders fi as ffl |
13:11.54 | etorix | tho id of killed for the 2.8 tessar on the linhof rangefinder i saw in tokyo |
13:12.22 | etorix | i sold mine to that guys competitor |
13:13.30 | etorix | and my heliar is worth gold in tokyo |
13:14.21 | etorix | the previous emperor did 8x10 work with a heliar |
13:15.09 | etorix | heliar = 'of the sun' or so |
13:15.39 | Blapto | Helios was the Greek god of the Sun |
13:15.58 | etorix | heliar = 'of the sun god' then |
13:16.11 | Blapto | I don't remember much of my GCSE Greek, but that sounds reasonable. |
13:16.45 | etorix | amaterasu was sun goddess in japanese hojiki |
13:17.00 | etorix | anyway |
13:17.09 | etorix | i want it in black pls |
13:26.11 | etorix | kinell, panasonic-uk are awful on the phone |
13:26.22 | etorix | press 1 |
13:26.46 | etorix | sorry, we cant take your call, but we have a website |
13:27.30 | secretlondon | ffs |
13:27.43 | secretlondon | as though you haven't checked that first |
13:27.50 | Blapto | To get the number, no doubt. |
13:28.28 | Blapto | Quick hint. In order to deal with regional accents, a lot of UK "voice activated" systems have real humans listening to the snippet and directing to the correct menu option. Swear profusely and they'll give you to an operator :) |
13:30.31 | etorix | Or through our Customer Care Centre on 0844 844 3856 |
13:30.41 | etorix | got a instant human |
13:31.30 | etorix | who acctually gave me info |
13:31.42 | etorix | ok, panasonic, all is forgiven |
13:46.13 | etorix | nearly |
13:46.32 | etorix | their recommendede doesnt actually have it in stock |
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14:14.08 | bilarh | dick_turpin: tell us about your customer experience yesterday? |
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14:21.41 | dick_turpin | Ooh you're gonna love it, ready? |
14:22.48 | dick_turpin | Customer: Every time I copy this quote I've done and paste it in the folder it comes up "Scrap" |
14:22.51 | dick_turpin | Me: That's weird? Delete the scrap files, open the Word document check its OK, save it and close. Now copy it and paste again. |
14:22.54 | dick_turpin | Customer: Nope its still saying "scrap" |
14:23.06 | dick_turpin | 30 mins later.. |
14:23.15 | dick_turpin | Engineer: You're not gonna believe this one. |
14:23.16 | dick_turpin | Me: Go on. |
14:23.16 | dick_turpin | Engineer: I tried it and it worked fine! |
14:23.16 | dick_turpin | Me: Huh? |
14:23.44 | dick_turpin | Best bit is she's been doing it that way for a couple of months she only realised there was a problem when the MD asked her for an old quote she had done Oops! P45 time me thinks. |
14:26.23 | dick_turpin | Oops forgot the punch line |
14:26.34 | dick_turpin | Engineer: I asked her to give it a try and saw her open the word document, copy all the text then try and paste the text into the folder!!! |
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14:40.38 | Blapto_ | Like a piggy-back |
14:41.16 | dick_turpin | Blapto_: Thats a bit harsh calling bilarh a pig ;-) |
14:41.24 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hehe nice :P |
14:41.26 | Blapto_ | You said it, not me. |
14:43.01 | dick_turpin | Blapto_: Na I said bilarh is a fat Nordic poof |
14:43.34 | Blapto_ | Oh, yes, I remember that vividly. |
14:44.07 | bilarh | and i'm not fat! |
14:44.41 | Blapto_ | I didn't say you were! |
14:45.00 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ha, when you get on the scales it says "No coach parties please" |
14:45.09 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hehe |
14:45.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Nice lamp do you have the curtains top match? |
14:45.54 | bilarh | how does secretlondon get "secretlo@wikipedia/secretlondon" as her id? |
14:46.09 | antiphase | You have to go and dig u plilo and blow him |
14:46.29 | bilarh | antiphase: ah ok, not for me then :( |
14:46.38 | bilarh | dick turpin might fancy it though |
14:55.13 | bilarh | i know you're not gay as you have a wife whom i meet regularly... |
14:55.14 | antiphase | When did you stop being gay? |
14:58.38 | secret_ | bilarh: It's a cloak. various projects will give you one |
14:59.05 | bilarh | secret: projects? |
14:59.15 | bilarh | forgive my ignorance on the subject :) |
14:59.15 | secret_ | yeah projects on freenode |
14:59.22 | secret_ | so projects like wikipedia |
14:59.34 | etorix | has to be official project |
14:59.42 | secret_ | freenode's website has info on cloaks |
14:59.53 | etorix | u can request one |
14:59.56 | bilarh | secret: ah ok, cool, i'll have a look over there... cheers |
14:59.57 | secret_ | and it's up to each project how they do it |
15:00.04 | etorix | --- NickServ set your hostname to "unaffiliated/etorix" |
15:00.39 | secretlondon | NickServ set your hostname to "wikipedia/secretlondon" |
15:00.46 | etorix | or the project admins will offer u one |
15:00.55 | bilarh | cool, interesting stuff |
15:01.05 | secretlondon | it hides which isp you come from ;) |
15:01.22 | etorix | to casual view, yes |
15:01.28 | etorix | oftc wont do em |
15:01.40 | secretlondon | oftc? |
15:01.44 | antiphase | Why not just resort to falsifying DNS entries? |
15:02.02 | etorix | --- - Welcome to OFTC - The Open and Free Technology Community |
15:02.17 | etorix | --- Looking up irc.oftc.net.. |
15:02.18 | etorix | --- Connecting to irc.geo.oftc.net (161.53.160.98) port 6667.. |
15:02.31 | etorix | freenode runaways |
15:09.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You know your mum? |
15:09.41 | bilarh | dick_turpin: shut it, baldie |
15:10.16 | dick_turpin | bilarh: :-) |
15:10.35 | murb | actually oftc is much less annoying than freenode. |
15:10.47 | murb | and also does TLSed connections |
15:10.53 | bilarh | murb: is that becaue dick_turpin is not on over there? |
15:11.00 | murb | and doesn't block messages. |
15:11.11 | bilarh | if dick_turpin left freenode, it would be less annoying, i think |
15:11.43 | secretlondon | I don't have projects on oftc |
15:11.44 | bilarh | i've got some pimps on my face i can put you in contact with |
15:11.45 | Blapto_ | secretlondon: what? |
15:12.05 | secretlondon | anyone freenode forks are just a hassle |
15:12.11 | etorix | im in one on oftc |
15:12.17 | secretlondon | Blapto: recruitment pimps |
15:12.22 | Blapto | Oh, right |
15:12.25 | Blapto | CWJobs++ |
15:12.30 | etorix | we ran away from lilo |
15:12.43 | secretlondon | Blapto: but I've no workplace It experience |
15:13.01 | Blapto | Ah, right, well, none of us did at some point |
15:13.01 | secretlondon | lilo rip |
15:13.02 | etorix | i hear mi5 is hiring |
15:13.08 | bilarh | neither does dick_turpin, that didn't stop him getting a job in it :P |
15:13.26 | secretlondon | etorix: I'm a bit of a lefty |
15:13.29 | wethrin | You ran away from lilo because you couldn't work /ignore |
15:13.30 | etorix | thats just acroos the river |
15:13.31 | wethrin | Har. |
15:13.42 | etorix | so work from inside |
15:14.08 | etorix | there money is good |
15:14.21 | etorix | cant hurt to ask |
15:14.21 | wethrin | Vetting for MImumble? |
15:14.31 | secretlondon | probably really high if other government security is anthing to go by |
15:14.50 | secretlondon | wethrin: I probably have a file from my days in the NUS |
15:14.50 | etorix | nah, this gubmint is a joke |
15:15.04 | wethrin | The MIs are a bit stricter when it comes to security checks than most other MoD agencies |
15:15.29 | etorix | u can expunge all that after u get the 'your category token' position |
15:15.29 | secretlondon | however you can apparently get a job in govt security if you are illegal (but I reckon those are like security guards) |
15:15.50 | Blapto | Does anybody know what classification they require? |
15:16.00 | Blapto | I'm halfway through getting vetting for the Royal Navy, which is fun |
15:16.02 | wethrin | Most MoD require you to be a British citizen |
15:16.16 | wethrin | MIn required you and your parents to be |
15:16.18 | murb | wethrin: hey, they recruited david "the 9/11 attacks on the wtc were faked" shayler |
15:16.21 | etorix | leaves me out then |
15:16.33 | secretlondon | murb: but he went mad afterwards we presume |
15:16.34 | wethrin | So I couldn't work for them. |
15:16.38 | murb | wethrin: and not to live outside the uk, which i really don't understand. |
15:16.46 | murb | wethrin: you and your divided loyalties. |
15:16.54 | wethrin | I blame my parents! |
15:16.55 | etorix | secretlondon: cant hurt to ask them |
15:17.02 | murb | wethrin: they might still recruit people who don't meat their requirements though. |
15:17.07 | secretlondon | etorix: I don't know if I could actually do it |
15:17.09 | murb | they can decide. |
15:17.11 | Blapto | murb: it's so you aren't open to foreign interference |
15:17.25 | murb | Blapto: i know... |
15:17.30 | wethrin | Eh. I can still consider AWE or DSTL when this contract runs out |
15:17.30 | etorix | better than signing on |
15:17.33 | secretlondon | I'm on the collective of the local anarchist centre |
15:17.34 | murb | blackmail etc. |
15:17.35 | Blapto | Someone who's "British through and through" is less likely to sell state secrets. They won't take people who are in debt either. |
15:17.42 | murb | wethrin: all the NUKES! |
15:17.48 | wethrin | Muahahaha! |
15:17.51 | secretlondon | I'd rather work for the bloody council like last time |
15:17.54 | wethrin | And I have a bicycle lock key! |
15:18.43 | secretlondon | cyclists = communists? |
15:18.44 | etorix | now i want a guitar |
15:19.12 | etorix | my mates keep getting killed off the bike |
15:19.28 | etorix | im avoiding my turn |
15:19.31 | wethrin | No, cyclists are just hippies :) |
15:20.56 | wethrin | Blapto: Is one of their tests giving you tea, milk, and a cup, and seeing how you pour yourself a drink? |
15:21.12 | Blapto | wethrin: So far I think they've just asked my references for references... |
15:21.23 | Blapto | None of them have been asked in which order I pour my tea. |
15:21.33 | secretlondon | I know some of the ideological "critical mass" cyclists. they evangelise |
15:21.41 | Blapto | (Milk then tea if it's brewed, tea then milk if it's being brewed in the mug.) |
15:22.09 | etorix | i used to be a bike mechanic |
15:22.38 | etorix | we got evicted at exactly the wrong time |
15:22.55 | etorix | bike co-op thingie |
15:23.15 | secretlondon | we have a free bike workshop locally - they gave me a bike but it's *just* too big, and I wouldn't dare go on the main road |
15:23.25 | wethrin | Blapto: Ding! |
15:23.28 | etorix | they wanted to re-shop us too far off a beten track |
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15:23.40 | wethrin | secretlondon: Even with the saddle right down? |
15:23.51 | Blapto | Free bikes? |
15:24.15 | Blapto | wethrin: what do you play? |
15:24.23 | etorix | surgicals? |
15:25.07 | etorix | my mate used to put his double bass under the stairs on the bus |
15:25.10 | wethrin | Blapto: I have with me in Durham: clarinet pair, bass clarinet, soprano sax, alto sax, tenor sax, bari sax, snare drum, miscellaneous auxilliary percussion |
15:25.21 | wethrin | Oh, and a little recorder type thing |
15:25.40 | secretlondon | wethrin: the saddle is stuck. that's why it was free |
15:25.40 | secretlondon | Blapto: because they knew me |
15:25.40 | etorix | reeds |
15:26.03 | Blapto | I play bass guitar if you're ever in need of a bassist |
15:26.26 | wethrin | I'm tempted to learn |
15:26.34 | Blapto | Bari sax is great :) Do you know any Tower of Power songs? See if you can find The More You Know |
15:26.35 | wethrin | One of my new year resolutions was to learn a new instrument |
15:26.40 | etorix | wish i hadnt sold my fender |
15:26.42 | Blapto | Or Rhythmn and Business |
15:26.44 | wethrin | I know some Tower of Power stuff |
15:26.51 | wethrin | I'm tempted to learn the bass guitar |
15:27.00 | Blapto | but with less ns... |
15:27.02 | wethrin | Oh, if you're in need of a saxophonist.... |
15:27.28 | Blapto | I had a saxophonist girlfriend about a year back. |
15:27.32 | wethrin | So, instead of learning a real instrument, I appear to have taken up percussion |
15:27.40 | Blapto | But her lungs and hands were too small for bari... |
15:28.04 | wethrin | Hands shouldn't matter too much - the keywork is such that it's only a little bit further apart than tenor |
15:28.15 | Blapto | They were very small hands. |
15:28.22 | wethrin | Hm |
15:29.18 | secretlondon | I've got a friend doing french horn at trinity college |
15:29.51 | wethrin | Horn's a lovely instrument |
15:30.13 | Blapto | I used to play the trumpet, I could probably pick it up again given a month or so... I was never very good though. |
15:30.24 | wethrin | Play trombone! |
15:30.26 | wethrin | It's more fun |
15:30.30 | Blapto | Apparently my mouth is more Sousaphone shaped... Well, the mouthpiece for one shaped. |
15:30.39 | wethrin | Mmm....wearable tubas |
15:30.45 | Blapto | I did play one for a while |
15:30.55 | wethrin | Nice fat-bored bass trombone |
15:30.58 | wethrin | You know you want to... |
15:31.04 | Blapto | There was a very short girl in the band with me, about 4' tall. I could lean over with it and encase much of her in the bell. |
15:31.21 | secretlondon | Blapto: did it work? |
15:31.25 | Blapto | A good friend of mine plays trombone, I'm not sure I'd have the patience to learn it knowing that I can just e-mail him something to play. |
15:31.46 | Blapto | secretlondon: well, she got very upset, but I'd trapped her shoulders and she couldn't do much about it :) |
15:31.57 | secretlondon | heh |
15:32.35 | wethrin | Oh. Must remember to return the particle counter to Engineering today |
15:32.45 | Blapto | Count your hand! Count your hand! |
15:34.39 | etorix | o noes .. i has 3 |
15:35.02 | Blapto | Not hands... Paritcles in a hand. |
15:35.41 | secretlondon | hmm reeds web site claims to have received my CV on "received on 01/01/0001" |
15:36.12 | Blapto | Jesus-admin |
15:36.47 | Blapto | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/earth/2008/02/07/scifish107.xml |
15:36.54 | secretlondon | maybe it's not CE, AgencyTime |
15:37.32 | Blapto | Bloody self-important agencies. |
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15:41.56 | secretlondon | lol one agency is encouraging people to add their myspace profiles to their CVs |
15:44.38 | wethrin | eww |
15:45.44 | hali | we do vetting on all those sites for new candidates |
15:45.55 | hali | facebook, linkedin, myspace etc |
15:46.30 | secretlondon | eew. sounds like I should hide my live journal |
15:46.56 | secretlondon | although it's not under my real name |
15:54.30 | wethrin | Frankly, if an employer didn't want me because of my Facebook page, I don't want to work for them |
15:55.21 | antiphase | Depends if it has a gallery of the donkeys you have non-consensually violated on it |
15:59.35 | wethrin | I'd be silly for putting that up |
16:05.42 | Blapto | wethrin: I want to be your friend :) |
16:06.46 | wethrin | Go on then :) |
16:06.52 | Blapto | I already have. |
16:06.59 | wethrin | rar |
16:07.15 | wethrin | FB currently isn't loading within the univeristy |
16:07.26 | Blapto | proxy! |
16:07.48 | Blapto | try hitting hs.facebook.com instead |
16:09.07 | secretlondon | facebook is lame |
16:13.38 | wethrin | Ah, that's better |
16:15.20 | secretlondon | the dole scrounger has actually got dressed now *sigh* |
16:15.38 | secretlondon | suppose I should go out |
16:15.44 | antiphase | You could always get a job as a pie tester |
16:15.49 | antiphase | Tasty pies |
16:15.59 | wethrin | <PROTECTED> |
16:16.40 | Blapto | I like the pie |
16:22.55 | tripitaka | anyone have any recommendations for beginner linux books? A friend of mine wants to take up the torch. |
16:24.50 | antiphase | Depends what they want to do. The Interweb is a fair place to start I'd have thought |
16:25.27 | tripitaka | what are the 'kids' looking at for beginner stuff online these days? |
16:26.25 | secretlondon | just start with ubuntu and google for stuff you want to do |
16:26.33 | secretlondon | there is no bible |
16:27.01 | secretlondon | bsd man pages ;) |
16:27.10 | Blapto | Reading through forums is a nice way to found out neat things. |
16:27.13 | Blapto | Or reading all of man |
16:27.59 | tripitaka | I'll point him at ubuntu for dummies and a download site. |
16:28.34 | cpufreak | I need to sleep soon |
16:28.45 | cpufreak | but I have a pet kernel developer on hand now |
16:28.56 | antiphase | The S/N ration for Ubuntu on the web is appallingly low because of clueless lusers that can't RTFM though |
16:29.11 | secretlondon | kernel devs must be useful pets |
16:29.23 | antiphase | Why do my fingers always type ration when I mean ratio? |
16:29.27 | secretlondon | ubuntu forums can be blind leading the blind |
16:29.30 | etorix | o reilly does good linux books |
16:29.38 | Blapto | Oh really? |
16:29.46 | etorix | oreilly |
16:29.49 | antiphase | ORLY |
16:29.51 | etorix | rilly |
16:29.55 | Blapto | YARLY |
16:29.59 | secretlondon | NO WAI |
16:30.06 | Blapto | Oh, we're geeks. |
16:30.41 | Blapto | Yay! XD |
16:30.44 | secretlondon | and avoids Mrs Blapto |
16:31.07 | Blapto | That's a good few years off, I hope |
16:31.47 | cpufreak | secretlondon: well, they are when the filesystem they wrote is broken |
16:32.01 | cpufreak | they've been logged in for 5.5hrs now, its fun watching them work |
16:32.04 | secretlondon | cpufreak: I reckon they are in general |
16:32.16 | cpufreak | nah |
16:32.19 | cpufreak | they're pretty boring |
16:32.29 | cpufreak | just useful |
16:33.10 | etorix | waych out for that linus, his jokes are really bad |
16:33.17 | Blapto | and feed them cheesy wotsits |
16:33.32 | secretlondon | pizza and coffee |
16:34.24 | secretlondon | keeps the hackers at the door |
16:34.33 | etorix | i kinda gave up buidling-kernels when they took out the dentist |
16:34.53 | antiphase | cpufreak: Did you stay up all night again? |
16:34.58 | etorix | -ck-dead |
16:36.01 | cpufreak | yeh |
16:40.23 | cpufreak | I had a lie in yesterday morning though |
16:40.25 | cpufreak | so its not so bad |
16:41.16 | antiphase | Lie-in? You pussy :P |
16:41.49 | tripitaka | the S/N ratio is the main reason found it hard to move from fbsd to linux. |
16:42.49 | tripitaka | FreeBSD == guaranteed bearded knowledge |
16:43.30 | Blapto | That's quite true... |
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16:55.42 | etorix | damit, im not going to make it down the hill to Curry's |
16:57.18 | antiphase | I'll go for you, it's only 1157 here |
16:57.53 | etorix | ok, heres a ton |
17:00.53 | etorix | ill go down tomorrow, show them the money, an make em get me a black one |
17:00.56 | secretlondon | I suppose I should go to the food co-op |
17:01.08 | secretlondon | they have washing liquid for £2 that does 20 washes.. yay for non profit shops |
17:01.48 | etorix | hmm .. i aint got a local wholefood coop |
17:02.22 | secretlondon | i'm lucky |
17:02.44 | secretlondon | 1 at elephant and castle hidden away |
17:02.46 | Discordian | A real co-op as opposed to The Co-op[tm]? |
17:02.57 | secretlondon | yes a real co-op |
17:03.04 | secretlondon | not a supermarket |
17:03.28 | Discordian | Well originall the Co-op was a real one |
17:03.30 | Blapto | secretlondon: where is this? |
17:03.39 | secretlondon | Blapto: http://www.fareshares.org.uk/ |
17:03.44 | Blapto | Roughly... I'm not going to stalk you |
17:03.47 | Blapto | Not after last time |
17:03.51 | secretlondon | ;) |
17:04.06 | Discordian | though it was a consumer co-op not a producer one |
17:04.47 | Blapto | Looks interesting |
17:05.09 | secretlondon | they sell at 10% above cost |
17:05.36 | secretlondon | great for teas, washing powder, rice |
17:05.49 | secretlondon | as well as lentils and other stuff you'd expect at a vegan place |
17:06.04 | Discordian | looks like a good selection of vegetables yeah |
17:06.20 | secretlondon | the veg is organic so the street market is cheaper |
17:06.31 | secretlondon | the pulses etc are cheaper than the high street |
17:07.03 | Blapto | Rarrr, meat |
17:07.16 | Discordian | I'm no hippy |
17:07.18 | secretlondon | it's cheap, i'm being economical |
17:07.26 | secretlondon | why pay supermarket prices? |
17:07.27 | Blapto | secretlondon: do you help out? |
17:07.31 | Discordian | I'll have a doner kebab tonight |
17:07.43 | secretlondon | Blapto: i have helped them do their stock work on weds |
17:07.46 | Blapto | Going out on the lash? |
17:07.57 | Discordian | nah |
17:08.03 | Discordian | I eat kebabs sober |
17:08.28 | Blapto | Ah, depends where they're from I suppose |
17:08.44 | Blapto | I real don't feel up to going out tonight, but it's a leaving do I suppose I should turn up... |
17:08.53 | Discordian | The local kebab shop |
17:09.04 | Discordian | which opens at 18:00 |
17:09.51 | secretlondon | I think I should go and take some non blurry photos for these people - I volunteered originally but they said they had someone.. |
17:12.43 | etorix | hmm .. my friend lunachan lives near there |
17:16.18 | etorix | pullens |
17:16.48 | Blapto | Anybody got a flat/house share going in London by any chance? |
17:17.26 | Discordian | www.gumtree.com is a good place to look for those |
17:17.45 | secretlondon | yes - it's in the pullens estate |
17:18.06 | Blapto | I'd rather live with a stranger off of #GLLUG than a stranger off of gumtree :) |
17:19.09 | secretlondon | I dunno a stranger off freenode is almost guaranteed to be weird ;) |
17:19.26 | Blapto | At least eliminates the doubt! |
17:19.33 | Blapto | And a few people here aren't complete strangers. |
17:20.42 | secretlondon | anyway - food co-op awaits |
17:21.48 | etorix | shes bin goin for years |
17:21.53 | Blapto | I'm off |
17:23.25 | secretlondon | etorix: yeah. getting my arse in gear |
17:24.04 | etorix | no, my friend goes to fareshares for since long time |
17:24.18 | etorix | she lives near |
17:24.23 | cpufreak | hmmm |
17:26.22 | cpufreak | so my IBM kernel FS developer's been idle on the console for 16mins |
17:26.36 | cpufreak | so tempting to wall them with |
17:26.45 | cpufreak | HURRY UP YOU LAZY WOTSITS |
17:26.46 | cpufreak | or something |
17:26.48 | Discordian | Lol |
17:28.32 | Discordian | not as bad as the old days when the OS developers came in with microfiche and readers |
17:48.40 | cpufreak | slack jawed hippies went to lunch |
17:48.50 | cpufreak | (its lunchtime where they are) |
18:04.49 | Discordian | Heh |
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18:17.26 | etorix | huh, she also talks, that was about 45 minutes call |
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18:40.35 | cpufreak | so |
18:40.40 | cpufreak | IBM kernel developer just called me |
18:40.50 | cpufreak | they told me they could not restore the data |
18:40.55 | cpufreak | so I try my plan B |
18:40.59 | cpufreak | and guess what.. it worked! :D |
18:41.11 | etorix | restored? |
18:41.16 | cpufreak | yep |
18:41.31 | etorix | ibm cant get the staff anymore |
18:43.18 | etorix | we have a ibm staffer, captain obvious we call him |
18:44.33 | cpufreak | well |
18:44.47 | cpufreak | these kernel developers ar shit hot |
18:44.49 | cpufreak | they know what they're on about |
18:45.01 | cpufreak | but they didn't think outside the box |
18:45.15 | cpufreak | once they told me they couldn't get my data back, I could try my plan B, which was a bit risky |
18:45.17 | cpufreak | but worked |
18:49.04 | Discordian | good for you! |
19:03.09 | wethrin | whumpf |
19:03.42 | wethrin | cpufreak: What was your plan B? |
19:04.27 | etorix | my impression was 28tb |
19:04.53 | etorix | even 2 tb is a lotta lotta backuppy |
19:05.06 | wethrin | Depends how important your data is..... |
19:06.11 | antiphase | 2TB is only 2.5 LTO4 tapesful |
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19:11.47 | cpufreak | no backup |
19:12.07 | cpufreak | backup, well archiving system not yet setup |
19:12.25 | cpufreak | got a 3.5 PB tape library sitting there (Scalar i2000) |
19:13.03 | cpufreak | plan b was simple, I deleted the partition tables |
19:13.05 | cpufreak | rebooted |
19:13.08 | cpufreak | recreated them |
19:13.10 | cpufreak | started up GPFS |
19:13.11 | cpufreak | and magic |
19:13.31 | cpufreak | so backing up my data |
19:13.34 | cpufreak | now |
19:13.45 | cpufreak | only getting 60MB/s across the gig tot his other server though |
19:13.50 | cpufreak | which is a bit annoying |
19:13.54 | Discordian | That's a cunning plan B |
19:14.06 | cpufreak | seems they canged their reocmmendation.. |
19:14.16 | cpufreak | for large luns, they recommend now not having partition tabels at all |
19:14.18 | Discordian | But I guess if there was no other chance |
19:14.19 | cpufreak | and just using raw devices |
19:14.35 | Discordian | That'd make sense |
19:15.10 | cpufreak | well previous iterations of their documentation recommeneeded partitions.. |
19:15.14 | cpufreak | so I went with that |
19:15.26 | cpufreak | latest one which I didn't read, recommends raw devices |
19:15.28 | cpufreak | meh |
19:15.46 | Discordian | Your plan B suggests they ignore the partitions anyway |
19:16.26 | Discordian | At some level anyway |
19:16.31 | cpufreak | well no |
19:16.38 | cpufreak | as I re-created the parttion table exact the same as before |
19:16.48 | Discordian | Oh I see |
19:16.50 | cpufreak | it was the kernel stopping gpfs from seeking past the first 1.7TB of the luns |
19:17.38 | Discordian | Aah right |
19:18.17 | wethrin | Ah, a kernel bug. |
19:18.39 | cpufreak | well meh, its just stupid 2^64 stuff I think |
19:18.46 | cpufreak | my maths is a bit knackered though right now |
19:18.56 | cpufreak | as I've been up for 38hrs or something, again. |
19:18.58 | cpufreak | twice this week |
19:19.02 | cpufreak | need to stop doing that |
19:20.24 | wethrin | I hope they're paying you well |
19:23.39 | cpufreak | no |
19:23.46 | cpufreak | I do it all for love |
19:23.47 | cpufreak | :P |
19:23.50 | cpufreak | nah its alright |
19:23.51 | cpufreak | its fun |
19:25.27 | wethrin | Rather you than me, then :) |
19:25.32 | wethrin | I'll stick to what I'm doing |
19:27.57 | cpufreak | once I get my working weeks under 80hrs, I'll see about doing a talk for you. |
19:28.36 | wethrin | nice |
19:28.51 | wethrin | 80 hours sounds like you need an assistant |
19:29.31 | cpufreak | 140hrs this week |
19:29.41 | cpufreak | antiphase is in my team |
19:29.52 | cpufreak | but he's been a hero this week |
19:29.57 | cpufreak | installing some systems in NYC |
19:36.36 | Discordian | alas no one has ever paid me to go further than Bletchley to install stuff |
19:37.23 | Discordian | bletchley by night is kinda dull |
19:37.48 | Discordian | not much better by day |
19:39.40 | antiphase | I thought I was getting a free holiday, no such luck though |
19:40.06 | Discordian | lol |
19:44.51 | etorix | exporting sysadmins huh |
19:44.57 | secretlondon | hmm. "lively lemonade" wasn't |
19:47.21 | secretlondon | harlequin ladybirds are fucking on my windowledge |
19:47.45 | etorix | harlequin? |
19:47.54 | secretlondon | yeah the ones we have an invasion of |
19:47.54 | Discordian | goodness |
19:48.02 | wethrin | DDT! |
19:48.11 | Discordian | Bit early in the year for that |
19:48.28 | secretlondon | well they are on top of each other, with one to the rear of the other |
19:48.35 | wethrin | *stomp* |
19:48.42 | etorix | omigod |
19:48.45 | etorix | There are 46 species of ladybird (Coccinellidae) resident in Britain and the recent arrival of the harlequin ladybird has the potential to jeopardise many of these. The Harlequin Ladybird Survey will monitor its spread across Britain and assess its impact on native ladybirds |
19:49.01 | Discordian | seems likely enough then |
19:49.03 | etorix | i get ladybirds |
19:49.19 | etorix | nasty biters they are , too |
19:49.25 | wethrin | ah. They're a pest, like grey squirrels, then |
19:50.15 | secretlondon | can't get a a decent phot |
19:50.28 | secretlondon | photo |
19:51.03 | etorix | i had a black one, two red spots |
19:51.12 | secretlondon | yeah they come like that too |
19:51.22 | etorix | antiladybird |
19:51.31 | wethrin | DDT..... |
19:52.23 | Discordian | digital debugging technique |
19:53.45 | etorix | http://www.harlequin-survey.org/images/site_graphics/Harmonia_colour_variants_plate_small.jpg |
19:56.35 | wethrin | debugging, certainly |
19:57.20 | Discordian | DEC thingy |
19:58.02 | Discordian | <PROTECTED> |
19:58.58 | Discordian | Although that was IBM's sig |
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21:14.29 | secretlondon | I'm bored. I think I'll have some of the ginger wine |
21:21.35 | wethrin | I'm bored too. I could go and play some drum, but I can't quite be bothered |
21:22.09 | secretlondon | I found chocolate in the fridge too |
21:22.10 | xteddy | smiles |
21:23.45 | wethrin | ooh, chockylet |
21:44.47 | Discordian | heh |
21:45.07 | secretlondon | I have a new mattress being delivered tomorrow from Beds4PoorPeople, I'm tempted to go to Cash Converters afterwards |
21:45.19 | Discordian | I had some wine |
21:46.30 | secretlondon | I've got a pair of big speakers but no amplifier. I currently use some PC speakers connected to this machine but I know I'd be better off with an amp from the electrical pawn shop |
21:46.44 | Discordian | cashconvertors: they'e a nasty lot |
21:47.08 | secretlondon | they are crap to sell to, certainly |
21:47.34 | Discordian | aye |
21:47.49 | secretlondon | I bought my mini disk recorder from there - no probs |
21:49.15 | Discordian | Never did Minidisk |
21:49.25 | secretlondon | I just use it for recording outside |
21:49.48 | wethrin | I got a reasonably nice flashgun from CC |
21:49.49 | Discordian | Though currently I don't have a MP3 thingy |
21:50.21 | secretlondon | I have 2 things that could work as MP3 players but I don't use either - I'd rather be fully alert outside |
21:50.29 | antiphase | Beds4PoorPeople sounds like they're likely to deliver some flea-ridden mattress that was discarded by some watersports enthusiasts |
21:51.40 | secretlondon | after being slept on by tramps for several weeks |
21:52.23 | Discordian | watersports: you mean surfing etc? |
21:52.41 | antiphase | I was thinking more of pissing, but YMMV |
21:52.57 | Discordian | Crude |
22:29.52 | wethrin | Me too |
22:30.06 | wethrin | I think I might annoy the neighbours with a bit of snare drum practice |
22:30.30 | secretlondon | I've just poured myself some more wine |