| 00:00.13 | etorix | the kind u has to hard reset for |
| 00:00.27 | etorix | gpm is good for that |
| 00:00.31 | secretlondon | no - alt + ctrl +1 got me a terminal |
| 00:01.48 | etorix | alt + ctrl +2 will give another |
| 00:01.59 | etorix | alt + ctrl +3 will give another |
| 00:02.59 | etorix | and typing sidux-irc on +2 as user brings up irssi preset to support # |
| 00:03.27 | wethrin | to support what? |
| 00:03.49 | secretlondon | #s need support or they fall over |
| 00:04.11 | wethrin | they do |
| 00:04.55 | etorix | DCC SEND * :Unknown command |
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| 00:14.22 | secretlondo | ffs |
| 00:14.39 | Discordian | oh dear |
| 00:15.03 | secretlondo | it just froze whilst I was browsing |
| 00:15.17 | secretlondo | just annoying |
| 00:26.32 | secretlondo | tries again |
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| 00:28.44 | secretlondo | rah! |
| 00:28.46 | secretlondo | 1024x768! |
| 00:39.17 | Discordian | yay! |
| 00:40.51 | Discordian | step forward then |
| 00:41.18 | secretlondon | well sorted really. the problem was I was only getting 800x600 on a 1024x768 screen |
| 00:41.29 | secretlondon | now the black frame has gone away! |
| 00:41.39 | Discordian | excellent |
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| 01:28.55 | etorix | chex fpr koolateralz |
| 01:28.59 | etorix | # /^\____--/####\___ | |
| 01:28.59 | etorix | # <_- _______ >| |
| 01:28.59 | etorix | # @ ~~~~\~\~~~ | |
| 01:28.59 | etorix | # @ @ |
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| 02:35.56 | secretlondon | morning Leeds |
| 02:42.01 | Leeds | hello, goodbye, sleep well |
| 04:23.35 | etorix | http://www.usd.edu/smm/PluckedStrings/Guitars/D'Angelico/10827/10827DAngelicoguitarbodyfront.jpg |
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| 07:58.33 | z00dax | moin |
| 07:59.00 | Leeds | morning |
| 07:59.16 | z00dax | hey, howse it going ? |
| 08:04.46 | Leeds | not too bad... you? |
| 08:04.50 | Leeds | survived your trip? |
| 08:05.05 | z00dax | yeah, was really good - except the jouney back |
| 08:05.41 | z00dax | VirginAtlantic need to realise that having edible food onboard an 8 hr flight is not optional, neither is having flight crew who actually know what they are doing |
| 08:06.16 | Leeds | I'm surprised about that, since I always enjoyed my flights on Virgin |
| 08:06.31 | Leeds | although I should say that in the past 3 years or so, they've all been Upper Class :-D |
| 08:06.56 | z00dax | its all cattle class for me :/ |
| 08:07.17 | Leeds | I've got about 100k virgin miles saved up |
| 08:08.15 | z00dax | I've been spoilt by Jet it seems. I like to get a menu and choose what I want, and then tell them when I'd like to have it - and actually have people in the flight who accomodate travellers |
| 08:08.42 | z00dax | the Virgin guys just wanted everyone in the front part of the plane, crammed in. while the last 15 rows of seats were completely empty |
| 08:09.03 | etorix | i read that as |
| 08:09.10 | z00dax | so i can only guess that the idiot who did their load charts at heathrow didnt know what he was doing |
| 08:09.14 | etorix | I've been spoilt by Jet Li |
| 08:09.23 | z00dax | :D |
| 08:10.10 | Leeds | I have never been spoiled by Jet Li in my life |
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| 14:02.28 | z00dax | humm |
| 14:02.33 | z00dax | gllug lands are quiet |
| 14:05.18 | huw-l | there's nobody here but us tumbleweeds |
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| 15:30.10 | Discordian | Good afternoon |
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| 15:33.24 | secretlondon | hi |
| 15:33.34 | Discordian | Hi |
| 15:38.20 | z00dax | hello |
| 15:38.58 | Discordian | Lo |
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| 16:07.22 | Discordian | The white room was a great album |
| 16:07.48 | secretlondon | think the blue room was an orb album |
| 16:07.53 | hali | not as good as the famous blue rain coat |
| 16:08.13 | Discordian | jenny sings lenny |
| 16:08.18 | Discordian | Superb |
| 16:08.57 | z00dax | there was a blue rain coat ? why didnt I get the memo ? |
| 16:09.16 | Discordian | Album by jennifer warnes |
| 16:09.33 | Discordian | singing songs by Leonard Cohen |
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| 16:21.46 | hali | it's excellent |
| 16:21.46 | hali | very crisp |
| 16:21.49 | hali | the recording is superb too |
| 16:23.22 | Discordian | Yeah I bought my copy on CD for 3 quid |
| 16:28.07 | hali | pishtash |
| 16:46.48 | Ch0Hag | Hah! |
| 16:47.07 | Ch0Hag | For a year I've been telling the bald twat to USE the serial port/LOM on his servers. |
| 16:47.34 | Ch0Hag | Now one of the other twats he employed to make himself feel less twatish has upgraded to a broken version of the kernel and he has to go to the data centre to fix it. |
| 16:49.16 | wethrin | Ha ha. |
| 17:01.49 | wethrin | I still need to sort out serial console on hades |
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| 17:56.37 | etorix | secretlondon: i bin tracked down by a DD |
| 17:57.16 | etorix | Reply |
| 17:57.34 | etorix | Robin Rowe to me |
| 17:58.23 | etorix | The issue is our Debian maintainer has retired. I've put out a call for volunteers, for someone to take his place. Debian has withdrawn support for GTK1, which is why CinePaint has been dropped. However, CinePaint |
| 17:58.39 | etorix | can be built with GTK2 by configuring with --enable-gtk2. Unfortunately, |
| 17:58.54 | etorix | we have no one to work on packaging at this time. |
| 17:59.12 | etorix | they hunted me down |
| 18:01.01 | secretlondon | ok. I have a bug on launchpad but ubuntu want to know why it was dropped first |
| 18:01.22 | secretlondon | did they say that to you publically? that would be useful info for my bug |
| 18:01.51 | secretlondon | think robin rowe is actually the upstream guy |
| 18:03.24 | etorix | he emailed me |
| 18:03.30 | secretlondon | k |
| 18:03.46 | etorix | if i get help ill give packaging a go |
| 18:04.01 | secretlondon | can add that info to my bug (or do you want to?) |
| 18:04.08 | etorix | http://packages.debian.org/source/etch/cinepaint |
| 18:04.17 | secretlondon | I may have an ubuntu packager |
| 18:04.23 | etorix | ill go in their #channels |
| 18:04.35 | secretlondon | whose? |
| 18:04.40 | etorix | thats what i did |
| 18:05.01 | etorix | #debian-multimedia |
| 18:05.04 | secretlondon | ok |
| 18:05.07 | etorix | #debian-kde |
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| 18:05.27 | etorix | #debian-multimedia on OFTC |
| 18:05.35 | etorix | #debian-kde on freenerd |
| 18:05.54 | etorix | #debian-kde on here |
| 18:06.50 | secretlondon | i'll add the thing about gtk 1 to my bug |
| 18:06.51 | antiphase | #debian-weenies |
| 18:08.46 | etorix | im not a DD |
| 18:08.54 | secretlondon | me neither |
| 18:09.16 | etorix | if i get a good deb id NMU tho |
| 18:09.39 | etorix | im sure theyd sponsor me |
| 18:10.09 | etorix | if i get a good deb, that is |
| 18:10.46 | etorix | i cant get no c*nt to take it on |
| 18:11.07 | secretlondon | etorix: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cinepaint/+bug/190791 |
| 18:12.42 | etorix | we can do this |
| 18:13.42 | etorix | now, if only my brain wasnt blancmange .. |
| 18:18.16 | etorix | i do have pointed the attention of severak fishial debian crews at this |
| 18:18.56 | etorix | now i need to get a proper deb buikt |
| 18:21.25 | etorix | thats the old sources: http://packages.debian.org/source/etch/cinepaint |
| 18:29.37 | etorix | $ apt-get source cinepaint |
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| 19:11.29 | secretlondon | etorix: did you get my message that gtk2 was enabled in the ubuntu build? |
| 19:11.57 | etorix | i built it gtk2 yesteday already |
| 19:12.14 | etorix | im trying to build a proper deb |
| 19:12.49 | secretlondon | so ubuntu gutsy's packaging was for the gtk2 version |
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| 20:21.26 | etorix | secretlondon: got debs + warnings |
| 20:22.39 | secretlondon | ok |
| 20:23.20 | hali | hm, meatballs! |
| 20:25.41 | etorix | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file |
| 20:26.34 | secretlondon | that's to do with your public key |
| 20:27.04 | etorix | no biggie |
| 20:27.09 | etorix | aint got one |
| 20:28.35 | Ch0Hag | Someone in here (I think it was in here) posted a URL a while ago to get bikes for a pound (+pnp). |
| 20:28.47 | Ch0Hag | Does anyone remember the URL? |
| 20:28.51 | secretlondon | no |
| 20:28.51 | etorix | o yeah |
| 20:29.11 | etorix | grep it |
| 20:29.26 | Ch0Hag | I don't have logs. |
| 20:29.31 | etorix | i do |
| 20:29.38 | etorix | got a grep line |
| 20:29.40 | secretlondon | etorix: your key needs to match the email address in the changelog, and there are some environmental variables you can set |
| 20:29.41 | hali | i have logs too if needed |
| 20:29.48 | secretlondon | google has logs too.. |
| 20:29.58 | Ch0Hag | http.*bike |
| 20:30.07 | etorix | main thing is it built, secretlondon |
| 20:30.07 | Ch0Hag | Yeah I'm attacking google now. |
| 20:30.16 | secretlondon | agreed |
| 20:30.40 | etorix | now its 'nit-nit-nit' |
| 20:30.56 | hali | http://www.unipackuk.com/99pence.htm |
| 20:31.10 | secretlondon | yeah - i've always found the fiddling with the hard bit.. |
| 20:31.15 | Ch0Hag | Bah it would be 99 bloody pence. |
| 20:31.25 | Ch0Hag | Thus frustrating my 'one pound' search. |
| 20:31.33 | Ch0Hag | Cheers hali. |
| 20:32.02 | hali | hm, and the moral of the story is that i spend way too mich time on irc |
| 20:32.05 | hali | 1.3gb irc logs |
| 20:32.20 | Ch0Hag | Yeah I used to. |
| 20:32.28 | Ch0Hag | Still do, actually, but now it's mostly idle. |
| 20:32.48 | hali | i probably spend 11 hours or so |
| 20:32.50 | hali | per day |
| 20:33.03 | Ch0Hag | Oh. They've sold out. |
| 20:33.08 | hali | 8-9 hours at work, then 2 hours at home |
| 20:38.26 | etorix | looks works, secretlondon |
| 20:38.39 | secretlondon | cool |
| 20:38.54 | etorix | damsite better than the source-only build, too |
| 20:49.55 | secretlondon | etorix: vorlon has commented on the ubuntu bug now |
| 20:50.55 | secretlondon | seems that upstream have contacted canonical about it |
| 20:52.17 | etorix | yeah, noe that noise has bin made someone will grab it off me |
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| 21:05.26 | Discordian | Good evening |
| 21:08.51 | secretlondon | evenin' |
| 21:10.57 | Discordian | Lo |
| 21:11.51 | etorix | Robin Rowe |
| 21:11.51 | etorix | CinePaint Project Leader |
| 21:11.52 | etorix | Beverly Hills, California |
| 21:11.52 | etorix | www.CinePaint.org |
| 21:12.03 | etorix | i gots email from the coder |
| 21:12.25 | etorix | is this my ticket to HOLLYWOOD |
| 21:16.23 | secretlondon | damn this music is weird |
| 21:16.35 | Discordian | What music is that? |
| 21:16.55 | secretlondon | etorix: are you documenting this anywhere, is there a sidux bug I can link to etc? |
| 21:17.19 | secretlondon | Discordian: Can's Ege Bamyasi. |
| 21:17.30 | Discordian | excellent album |
| 21:17.33 | secretlondon | agreed |
| 21:17.38 | etorix | no bug yet, it was never in sidux |
| 21:17.42 | secretlondon | it's soup that's weird |
| 21:17.55 | Discordian | Heh |
| 21:17.57 | etorix | im attempting a cleanroom pbuilder build next tho |
| 21:18.00 | Discordian | Heard any faust? |
| 21:18.22 | secretlondon | no |
| 21:19.09 | Discordian | I must MP3 more of my CD collection |
| 21:19.23 | Discordian | I don't have any Can or Faust on MP3 |
| 21:19.57 | Discordian | Soon Over Babaluma is my favourite Can album |
| 21:20.03 | Discordian | I have about 8 |
| 21:20.41 | etorix | now im getting pushed to file a ITP |
| 21:21.08 | secretlondon | please so - then we don't duplicate effort |
| 21:24.17 | Discordian | Faust were an electonic band from that era too |
| 21:26.13 | secretlondon | cool |
| 21:26.36 | Discordian | and has a few synths |
| 21:43.01 | Discordian | Food is good |
| 21:43.24 | hali | food is good |
| 21:43.31 | hali | i had meatballs and herb potatos |
| 21:43.36 | hali | quite nice |
| 21:43.40 | hali | and carrots! |
| 21:44.34 | secretlondon | I have some stir fry beef thing that is marinating, and some purple cabbage |
| 21:45.21 | Discordian | I don't eat cow |
| 21:45.22 | hali | i eat way too little cabbage |
| 21:45.34 | Discordian | I eat other meats |
| 21:45.45 | Discordian | I don't much like cabbage |
| 21:45.49 | hali | i eat whatever i think looks nice |
| 21:46.00 | secretlondon | I was put off cabbage by boiled dull cabbage |
| 21:46.10 | Discordian | people over cook cabbage |
| 21:46.19 | secretlondon | but cabbage in kebabs etc is nice, it's just english cabbage that sucks |
| 21:46.26 | secretlondon | sauerkraut is ncie too |
| 21:46.27 | secretlondon | nice |
| 21:46.38 | Discordian | I like purple cabbage in kebabs |
| 21:47.34 | hali | why is it so difficuly to make tasty sallad when it is fairly easy to cook tasty meat? |
| 21:47.42 | hali | buying tasty sallad is easy |
| 21:47.59 | Discordian | tasty salad? |
| 21:48.16 | hali | yes |
| 21:48.21 | Discordian | lettuce, onion, radish, tomatoes |
| 21:48.21 | hali | with like, stuff |
| 21:48.32 | Discordian | and some sauce |
| 21:48.44 | Discordian | cucumber |
| 21:48.56 | hali | ditch the radish |
| 21:49.01 | hali | rest sounds like a good start |
| 21:49.02 | Discordian | maybe croutons |
| 21:49.57 | Discordian | Add shalots |
| 21:49.59 | hali | i tried to make lentel soup the other day, failed, was ok but lacked taste |
| 21:50.12 | hali | probably needs fresh herbs |
| 21:50.13 | Discordian | yeuw lentils |
| 21:50.27 | hali | lentils can be quite nice when cooked right |
| 21:50.27 | Discordian | I like couscous |
| 21:50.41 | hali | couscous is great, and easy to boil |
| 21:50.54 | hali | couscous with veg curry is quite nice |
| 21:51.08 | hali | with eggplant! |
| 21:51.36 | Discordian | i've rather gone off aubergine |
| 21:51.39 | secretlondon | local street market has actual "eggplant" that isn't aubergine |
| 21:52.00 | secretlondon | like little cream eggs |
| 21:52.02 | hali | i didn't know there was a difference |
| 21:52.07 | Discordian | Ahhh |
| 21:52.11 | wethrin | Cadbury's Creme Eggs grow on trees? |
| 21:52.16 | secretlondon | well it's chinese eggplant or something |
| 21:52.25 | hali | cool, taste nicer? |
| 21:52.34 | secretlondon | not actually bought any |
| 21:52.37 | Discordian | here you'd be lucky to get ginger in a greencrocers |
| 21:52.54 | secretlondon | wethrin: yes but only for me |
| 21:52.59 | Discordian | and certainly no chance of chestnuts |
| 21:53.33 | wethrin | Hurrah |
| 21:54.42 | Discordian | roasted chestnuts++ |
| 21:54.47 | hali | i need to move somewhere with an actual street market |
| 21:54.53 | Discordian | water chestnuts are good too |
| 21:55.05 | hali | all we have is a waitrose and about 500 halal butchers |
| 21:55.24 | Discordian | We don't have a butchers |
| 21:55.37 | Discordian | apart from sainsburys |
| 21:55.53 | secretlondon | we have but they all look really gross - weird shit cuts of meat and stomachs on display |
| 21:56.05 | hali | ew |
| 21:56.07 | Discordian | Heh |
| 21:56.08 | secretlondon | smells weird as you walk past |
| 21:56.29 | Discordian | well walking around chinatown can do that too |
| 21:56.30 | secretlondon | if you are feeling queasy it is really grim |
| 21:56.32 | wethrin | Mm...stomachs. Good for haggis-making! |
| 21:57.26 | Discordian | I've no idea what most of the meat was |
| 21:59.14 | Discordian | inbound to Phuket from KLA they served me the diabetic option |
| 21:59.33 | Discordian | I decided it was better not to eat |
| 21:59.37 | hali | dog balls? |
| 21:59.48 | Discordian | Fish with heads |
| 22:00.14 | hali | oh dear |
| 22:00.28 | Discordian | I needed the barf bag |
| 22:01.48 | Discordian | My GF offered to let me have her meal and she'd have mine |
| 22:01.59 | Discordian | I could have eaten hers |
| 22:02.09 | Discordian | But not after seeing that |
| 22:35.42 | Discordian | Nie |
| 22:35.47 | Discordian | Nice |
| 22:39.12 | Discordian | Uhh |
| 22:39.34 | Discordian | surely that's not in debian/ubuntu |
| 22:40.00 | Discordian | Nice package but it costs $lots |
| 22:40.06 | etorix | mathematica aint oss , is it |
| 22:40.22 | secretlondon | indeed - they may be running ubuntu but we can't support any old prog they run on it |
| 22:40.32 | secretlondon | closed source commercial prog |
| 22:40.53 | Discordian | indeed |
| 22:41.21 | Discordian | There's vaguely similar OSS stuff |
| 22:42.19 | wethrin | Probnably not as polished, though |
| 22:42.46 | Discordian | indeed |
| 23:47.26 | secretlondon | bits of camden high street are going to be demolished apparently |
| 23:47.31 | secretlondon | 'G-Heaven' (No.7-8) public house and 'Consession' (No.9) shop to be demolished, Tuesday morning. |
| 23:47.51 | secretlondon | The Hawley Arms will not be demolished but propped up from the outside with the inside worked on. |
| 23:47.56 | wethrin | To be turned into luxury flats? |
| 23:49.06 | secretlondon | fire damaged but who knows.. |
| 23:49.24 | secretlondon | all London needs is more luxury flats of course |
| 23:49.41 | wethrin | Of course |
| 23:52.58 | secretlondon | I think I've sat in that pub - its the properties next to the railway line |
| 23:53.36 | Discordian | camden road on the north london line? |
| 23:53.41 | secretlondon | yep |
| 23:55.11 | secretlondon | camden high st or kentish town rd? |
| 23:55.28 | Discordian | kentish town road |
| 23:55.45 | secretlondon | ah ok |
| 23:55.50 | secretlondon | different pub then |
| 23:55.59 | Discordian | perhaps |
| 23:56.10 | secretlondon | this is the camden high st/railway line junction |
| 23:56.26 | Discordian | camden town tube? |
| 23:56.37 | Discordian | That was quite a way off |
| 23:57.07 | secretlondon | no - I sat in a pub opposite camden road |
| 23:57.10 | etorix | theres no station there |
| 23:57.12 | secretlondon | not the tube |
| 23:57.16 | etorix | at the lock |
| 23:57.56 | secretlondon | dunno what G-heaven was, sounds more like a bar than a pub |
| 23:58.03 | Discordian | Only station on camden high st is Camden town at the island site |
| 23:58.17 | secretlondon | yepo |
| 23:59.34 | Discordian | there's chalk farm on chalk farm road |
| 23:59.47 | Discordian | but that's a way up |
