IRC log for #gllug on 20080218

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08:06.22haliGood Morning
09:00.27Leeds3.5k per taxpayer for Northern Rock? bloody 'ell
09:08.52Leedsand in the meantime, what's with people not bothering to put subject lines on their emails, huh?
09:43.23wethrinPrivate Eye is going to have a field day
09:43.58wethrinThey said that at the start, it'd have been cheaper to nationalise it, and not go through their silly private-selling attempts
09:44.58Leedsit would have been more expensive, because they would have had to pay the pre-collapse value of the bank
09:48.30wethrinI still blame their management for doing stupid things
09:48.59haliand im f*cking sure their management team will have even better payed jobs in the new bank or in other banks
09:49.23wethrinYes. When really what they need is to never work again
09:52.06wethrinRight. Reality calls. They want me to work.
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09:55.56axelSmorning all
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10:14.12z00daxmoin
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12:47.38Ch0HagWoo new hard drives.
12:47.46Ch0HagNow the I part of my RAID can start to happen.
12:47.53Ch0HagThe A part, even.
12:48.04Ch0HagOr R?
12:48.06Ch0HagHell. One of them.
12:49.16axelSD?
12:49.19axelS;-)
12:49.38Ch0HagYeah. Get rid of those CF drives at last.
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13:30.47dick_turpinmozrat_: Hey
13:32.45gregjhttp://www.joemonster.org/mg/albums/new/1802/oldcomputer.jpg
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14:19.15wethrinRargh
14:28.19boudiccasnaughty dick_turpin
14:28.32boudiccasthought you were potty trained long ago :)))
14:29.19dick_turpinboudiccas: wethrin scared the be'jesus out of me
14:30.06boudiccasdick_turpin, were you able to get any be'jesus out of stock to replace it??
14:31.09dick_turpinboudiccas: No but I did tell the Jehova witnesses that called at my house on Saturday that we was Satanists
14:31.20boudiccaslol
14:31.55dick_turpinboudiccas: Nope, it was the worst thing I could have done, they wouldn't leave
14:32.18wethrinharr
14:32.49dick_turpinI threatend to set the dog on them
14:33.21dick_turpinArchie came to the door with a pair of the wifes knickers hanging out his mouth, tut
14:34.42antiphaseI didn't think your wife wore knickers
14:35.44boudiccasdick_turpin, but was the ife still in them?
14:35.48boudiccas*wife
14:36.37dick_turpinantiphase: Huh that's what you think, bloody extra padded get-your-hands-off ones
14:37.46boudiccasthey're the best and most comfortable
14:38.21boudiccasprimarks knickers are almost as good, with slightly less funcionality
14:39.26boudiccas*functionality
15:10.28halifunctionality such as single sign on? :P
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17:06.45DiscordianGood evening
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17:11.45boudiccasevening Discordian
17:12.13DiscordianHi boudiccas, hi gbeard
17:12.49gbeardevening all
17:13.10DiscordianTis cold
17:13.44gbeardnesh southeners
17:14.10DiscordianAbout 7C here
17:15.56boudiccasgbeard, you from the midlands???
17:16.12gbeardManchester
17:16.40Discordianmanc is only north of england
17:16.41boudiccasah, not quite far north then. i thought you were a midlander by saying 'nesh'
17:22.54LeedsHK14C here
17:24.01gbeardare we talking internal or external temperatures?
17:24.09LeedsHKexternal
17:24.16LeedsHKat 0100
17:24.29gbeardI'm snug as a bug inside at 13
17:27.59LeedsHKI'm reading 18C inside
17:28.25Discordianabout 9C inside
17:32.29wethrin9C inside? Bit cold...
17:33.15DiscordianSurviveable
17:34.04Discordianand the heater is slowly warming the room up
17:34.05gbeardA laptop on your lap keeps the essential parts toasty
17:35.07Discordiangbeard: dunno about you mate, but I'd prefer my brain,lungs, hearet
17:35.19Discordians/hearet/heart
17:35.26Discordianstay warm
17:36.09LeedsHKI should be asleep... g'night all
17:37.03Discordiang'night
17:37.52Nafallois there a reason you should not headdesk your collegaues?
17:38.19Discordianyou may get sacked?
17:38.39wethrinYou'll make a dent in your desk if you do it often enough
17:41.18Nafallohehe
17:42.04DiscordianLARTing em on the other hand is allowed
17:46.01gbeardTaking down my gateway m/c G'night all
18:01.16NafalloDiscordian: he'll be in this chan in a moment ;-)
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18:01.41Nafallotold ya :-P
18:01.50Discordianhah
18:02.10kinkook, this little debian mofo is asking for problems
18:02.19NafalloUbuntu
18:02.21Nafallo:-)
18:02.28wethrinsame thing
18:02.44Nafallodamnit :-P
18:02.50kinkothis little debian mofo cant even get his nic up
18:03.06DiscordianThankfully I know no
18:03.20kinkoapprently ubuntu dont support network cards
18:03.23Discordiannothing of debian or ubuntu
18:03.28mozrat_Hello
18:03.33wethrinHey mozrat_
18:03.37wethrinLTNS, and all that
18:03.43mozrat_Would anyone like to make me happy?
18:03.59Nafallonot the non-free ones :-P
18:04.24wethrinmozrat_: Try Norwich Union
18:04.51mozrat_wethrin: Are they known for their ability to recover corrupt JPEG files?
18:05.00wethrinDepends. Are the files insured?
18:05.16kinko<< likes FN'Discordians choice minus fedora
18:05.18mozrat_No :(
18:05.22wethrinOther than restoring from backup, there's very little you can do
18:05.47kinkok, off to the pub, you coming naf?
18:05.54Nafallodunno
18:05.57Nafallomight as well
18:06.04mozrat_I never got a chance to get them off of the camera. I can view them using the camera viewer thingy but not on Linux/Mac/Windows
18:06.45wethrinWhat's wrong with them?
18:06.48mozrat_The images are there - they just have corrupt headers - Just confused a Nikon tech with the problem and he told me to go to Toshiba because they made the memory card *sigh*
18:07.32mozrat_wethrin: sec
18:08.32mozrat_Not a JPEG file: Starts with 0xcc 0xda
18:08.44mozrat_I don't want to have to recover 200 images using  hex editor :(
18:09.36wethrinthat's most odd
18:09.44mozrat_It is
18:09.48wethrinSame thing if you put the CF card directly into a reader?
18:09.55mozrat_yep
18:10.12wethrinIs it just the header that's corrupted, though?
18:10.18wethrinOr is there something else too?
18:10.28mozrat_I took about 70 photos last week and only 1 is viewable. It is even more odd that one is OK and the others not
18:10.38wethrinWas it the first one? Last one?
18:11.04mozrat_all of the photos are viewable on the camera.. and also a digital photoframe but I've tried just about every photo application on Linux/Mac/Win and none of them can open it
18:11.11mozrat_a photo in the middle
18:11.23wethrinphotoframe works? That's bizarre
18:11.34mozrat_It is. I'm most confused
18:11.37wethrinNot like some bits have been flipped around?
18:12.24mozrat_ooh, no
18:12.25mozrat_how?
18:12.31wethrinI don't know.
18:12.34wethrinFile->Open
18:12.38wethrinSee if it reads it
18:12.40mozrat_ah, right. Yes
18:13.07mozrat_I'm sure it is a problem with the headers and the camera and photoframe are just a little less fussy
18:13.54wethrinYes - if the main data is fine, you may just be able to frobble the header
18:13.54wethrin+s
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18:56.12DiscordianLo
18:56.30DiscordianNow there's a name I recognise
19:02.42wethrinOh, SpudULike!
19:02.48wethrinYou're Fosdemming, yes?
19:03.37SpudULikeFosdemming, hmm.  I'm going to Brussels for beer if that count?
19:03.50SpudULikeLooking forward to it too.
19:04.11wethrinYes, I suppose that counts
19:04.13wethrinAre you being sensible and doing the eurostar this time?
19:04.35SpudULikeGah, get real!!!
19:04.41SpudULikeI lurve the coach.
19:04.57wethrinsilly fellow!
19:05.03wethrinI hope you'll be having beer on the coach
19:05.25SpudULikeI don't think you're allowed to drink on the coach.
19:05.31wethrinboooooo
19:05.51SpudULikeIt's not a problem, I'll just sleep.
19:06.06wethrinSo getting there early Friday?
19:06.25SpudULikeFinding something to do in Brussels at 6.30am is another thing.  I can have beer then can't I ;-)
19:06.51SpudULikeWhere are you staying?
19:07.01wethrinResidence les Ecrins
19:07.05wethrinWhat about you?
19:08.42SpudULikeSleep Well Youth Hostel, not been in that one yet; I wonder if it will be different?
19:08.56wethrinooh. All the hostels I tried were full
19:09.00wethrinMaybe you got the last bed :)
19:09.31wethrinAnyway. Next year onwards, I shall hotel it
19:09.45wethrinFinding hostels is getting harder and harder
19:09.48SpudULikeI think we did, was just after Xmas when the biooking was made.
19:09.57wethrinHm
19:10.59SpudULikeYou're still central though.
19:11.05wethrinyeah
19:11.16wethrinI hope the room is okay, with the correct number of beds
19:11.16SpudULikeNext year I might try a tent.
19:11.32wethrinThe hotel booking site said '4-bed room'. The hotel's website denied they had any
19:11.52SpudULikeI've still got hopes our one will have women in it this yea as well :-)
19:12.07wethrinthat's rhowe's luck!
19:12.17SpudULikeBless him.
19:12.38wethrinaye :)
19:12.49wethrintime to head!
19:12.59SpudULikeThey can muster up rooms, they'll never see you out in the street.
19:13.09SpudULikeChat soon, prolly Friday.
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20:21.32boudiccaswhere was gluugs summer day out too the year before last please? mozrat organised it [i seem to remember] and it was to the wartime code breakers place, but what was the place called??
20:22.48wethrinBletchley Park
20:23.41boudiccasty
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22:08.55aguaithefreakhow can I "filter" a "123" from a file name "hello123goodbye.mp3"?
22:09.51halised 's/123//'
22:09.57aguaithefreakby shell command?
22:10.53aguaithefreakhali: I got these hello123goodbye.mp3 hello124goodbye.mp3 hello125goodbye.mp3....
22:11.23aguaithefreakhali: and I hope to "filter" those number...
22:12.04haliremove?
22:12.06haliextract?
22:12.47aguaithefreakhali: chang filename...
22:13.00aguaithefreakhali: change
22:14.25aguaithefreakI think there must be a one-line command...
22:15.47haliaguaithefreak: (echo hello123goodbye.mp3 ; echo hello124goodbye.mp3 ;echo hello125goodbye.mp3) | perl -pe 's/([a-z])([0-9]+)(.*)/$1-$2-$3/'
22:16.13haliwith a plus there as well yes
22:16.37aguaithefreakhali: thx, let me try it?
22:16.38hali(echo hello123goodbye.mp3 ; echo hello124goodbye.mp3 ;echo hello125goodbye.mp3) | perl -pe 's/([a-z]+)([0-9]+)(.*)/$1-$2-$3/'
22:34.19wethrinUgh. Perl.
22:34.55haliyes, a bit of a taste unless the dataset is fairly large
22:35.13haliwaste*
22:35.15halitaste?
22:35.18halihmm
22:35.19wethrinDoes he want to remove the numbers?
22:35.21wethrinOr?
22:35.41halii didn't really get it so i just grouped it and $1 $2 $3 can be used as pleased
22:38.47wethrinA full exapmle would've helped, I think
22:39.01wethrinDepends what he'd want to rename it to
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22:45.08halihm, openbsd/sparc64 supports wifi pci cards :)
22:45.14halivery cool
22:47.50wethrinYeah, BSD tends to support random hardware like that
22:48.06Nafallogaah
22:48.17Nafallothat wasn't was I read.
22:48.29wethrinwhat did you read?
22:49.13hali"BDSM tends to require random hardware"?
22:49.27DiscordianLol
22:51.32Discordianwhole new job market that
22:56.30Ch0Hag<Sam> Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix.
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23:33.08Nafallohehe
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23:52.19secretlondonit was sitting in the box it came in - one is marked "additional power"
23:53.24LeedsHKthat might help
23:53.27LeedsHKbreakfast!
23:53.43wethrinMORE POWER!
23:53.47secretlondoni'm trying it now
23:54.15LeedsHKI cannae give it any more than 500mA or it'll blow capt'n!
23:55.30secretlondonmine only has the one, but has this extra cable I never bothered getting of the box..
23:55.42LeedsHKI've been fooled by that whole second-USB-port-for-more-power thing before

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