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| 04:32.02 | Discordian | morning |
| 04:36.34 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 04:42.56 | Leeds | my nipples explode with delight? |
| 04:43.35 | Discordian | Infeccted toe |
| 04:43.57 | Leeds | nice |
| 04:44.07 | Discordian | Not fun |
| 04:45.35 | Leeds | bad nail or something? |
| 04:47.52 | Discordian | ulcer |
| 04:48.00 | Discordian | I'm diabetic |
| 04:48.10 | Leeds | insulin-dependent? |
| 04:48.31 | Discordian | Nah type Ii on tablets |
| 04:49.24 | Leeds | I spent about 6 months on insulin |
| 04:49.41 | Discordian | i've beern on it |
| 04:49.43 | Discordian | been |
| 04:50.01 | Discordian | but I'm happier on metformin |
| 04:51.23 | Leeds | never tried tablet |
| 04:51.45 | Leeds | s... mine was post-pancreatitis, and I appear to have largely recovered |
| 04:51.54 | Discordian | Good fort you |
| 04:54.12 | Leeds | should probably keep a better eye on myself though... |
| 04:54.44 | Discordian | i started eating better, veggies, fruit etc |
| 04:55.08 | Discordian | But I had legs ulcers before I was diabetic |
| 06:55.25 | Leeds | good morning starshine! |
| 07:11.39 | starshine | cuddles |
| 07:12.06 | starshine | teddybears aren't generally into fondling :) |
| 07:36.35 | Leeds | ah, the benefits of a girlfriend with slightly wobbly English: "wow... that chocolate bra is amazingly nice" |
| 07:36.37 | xteddy | smiles |
| 07:38.06 | Leeds | she was, in fact, talking about a chocolate *bar* - a flake, as it happens |
| 07:38.07 | xteddy | smiles |
| 07:56.01 | Leeds | cope! |
| 07:56.42 | Cope | good afternoon, sior |
| 07:59.50 | Leeds | how is the life of you? |
| 08:00.30 | Cope | satisfactory |
| 08:01.06 | Leeds | merely satisfactory? |
| 08:01.22 | Cope | currently fucked off that the day I *really* need to use safari, they take it down for maintenance |
| 08:02.18 | Leeds | ah-ha |
| 08:02.46 | Leeds | I haven't had access to safari for quite a long time |
| 08:02.57 | Cope | however, moaning about it on irc has clearly helped, since it seems I now can sign in! |
| 08:03.20 | Leeds | result! |
| 08:03.29 | Cope | although my train arribves in 2 mins, so the moment has somewhat passsed |
| 08:03.56 | Cope | there are two very attractive ladies nearby, though :) |
| 08:04.04 | Leeds | nice |
| 08:04.40 | Leeds | there is one moderately-attractive one near me... she is extremely pregnant though, due in about a month |
| 08:05.09 | Cope | wizzo |
| 08:05.37 | Leeds | so what's new? |
| 08:05.43 | Leeds | how was the 'DEM? |
| 08:06.02 | Cope | good! |
| 08:06.30 | Cope | we (centos) has a good time, and won some conference |
| 08:06.37 | Cope | um... converts |
| 08:06.50 | Leeds | I do miss that sort of thing... I was window-shopping for flights to SFO in April for LUGRadio Live |
| 08:06.59 | Cope | ubuntu got a slating, and I had a profitable time with the author if mysql proxy |
| 08:07.10 | Leeds | ah, you're doing centos stuff now? |
| 08:07.41 | Cope | right - train here - speak more inabit |
| 08:08.06 | Leeds | have a good one |
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| 08:45.59 | bilarh | morning |
| 08:55.15 | Leeds | okay, I'm playing battleships on facebook... could I get much lower? |
| 09:02.36 | bilarh | you could be scooping yoghurt out of a pot with your hand |
| 09:03.02 | bilarh | or even |
| 09:03.08 | bilarh | enter dick_turpin. |
| 09:03.09 | bilarh | :-D |
| 09:12.00 | bilarh | bring on payday :-\ |
| 09:13.00 | Leeds | a week today for me |
| 09:13.31 | bilarh | i am so broke |
| 09:13.39 | bilarh | this month has been rubbish from a money point of view |
| 09:13.47 | bilarh | bloody car is bankruping me |
| 09:13.51 | bilarh | bankrupting |
| 09:14.28 | bilarh | it's one of those "35 day" months this time |
| 09:14.32 | hali | did you diy-brake it? |
| 09:14.36 | bilarh | i hate being paid on the last friday of the month, it sucks |
| 09:14.41 | bilarh | hali: no i had someone fit a clutch |
| 09:14.50 | bilarh | for only 850 quid :-\ |
| 09:14.56 | bilarh | and then i had to pay for other stupid shit as well |
| 09:15.11 | bilarh | "had" to buy that running machine, for example :D |
| 09:15.12 | hali | annoying |
| 09:15.20 | hali | you could just buy a yaris :) |
| 09:15.21 | bilarh | it's currently serving as a clothes rack |
| 09:15.44 | bilarh | taht would be like a quarter of the power :) |
| 09:15.49 | hali | real running is free :) |
| 09:15.50 | bilarh | and probably 1/8th of the running costs |
| 09:15.55 | bilarh | what's the point of that :P |
| 09:15.57 | hali | yes and yes :) |
| 09:16.20 | hali | it is the "hobby" car i guess so it's fine it costs a bit of dosh |
| 09:16.31 | hali | as you're not really dependant on it |
| 09:16.33 | bilarh | yeah it is |
| 09:16.55 | bilarh | but when it's like... affecting my day to day life as i have to scrimp and save at the end of the month, it kind of sucks |
| 09:17.06 | bilarh | oh yeah, i remember... i had to pay for that stupid holiday as well |
| 09:17.22 | bilarh | i'm starting to sound like one of those people on the bbc debt programmes |
| 09:17.29 | hali | but you can just wait and spend the cash next month if you have to, you don't need *need* it asap |
| 09:17.29 | bilarh | without the debt, so far |
| 09:17.36 | bilarh | yeah i know |
| 09:17.44 | bilarh | i should be paid a decent amount of overtime this month, i hope |
| 09:17.46 | hali | do you spend £8k a month on handbags? :) |
| 09:17.52 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 09:18.06 | bilarh | 8k a month on different shaded silicone hoses |
| 09:18.14 | bilarh | silicone hosiery? :) |
| 09:18.30 | hali | im not sure if i feel sorry the suckers in those shows or if i just want to slap them |
| 09:18.34 | hali | mostly slap i think |
| 09:18.37 | bilarh | well, to be honest |
| 09:18.45 | bilarh | if i *really* didn't have the money, i wouldn't buy the stuff |
| 09:18.50 | bilarh | so i think we should just slap them |
| 09:19.11 | hali | they must either have some pshycological thing or just be *really* stupid |
| 09:19.16 | bilarh | if they get in to debt because they lose their jobs and have to feed their kids, then i don't really think they're being irresponsible |
| 09:19.24 | bilarh | but to get into debt to buy clothes and handbags... sheesh |
| 09:19.27 | bilarh | or whatever the guys do |
| 09:19.33 | hali | like "i wasn't breast fed so now i need to find someone else to love me!" |
| 09:19.44 | hali | i think thye buy handbags too |
| 09:19.44 | bilarh | oh yeah, some real corkers on that show :D |
| 09:20.01 | bilarh | speaking of which... |
| 09:20.17 | bilarh | i loved the gambler who sued ladbrokes for him losing 2M :D |
| 09:20.20 | bilarh | what a plank |
| 09:20.40 | bilarh | "my life's been ruined because of ladbrokes" |
| 09:20.53 | hali | im against gambling so i don't really care |
| 09:20.54 | bilarh | like, no, it's been ruiend because you placed stupid bets you couldn't afford to lose |
| 09:20.59 | bilarh | well, i don't mind |
| 09:21.05 | bilarh | i'm all for personal responsibility |
| 09:21.25 | bilarh | if you fuck up because of gambling, don't come crying saying you lost all your money and it must be someone elses fault |
| 09:21.28 | hali | of course, but general gambling won't pay off if the system was perfect |
| 09:21.38 | hali | because we need stupid kretins to loose in order for smart people to win :) |
| 09:21.45 | bilarh | it's possible to make a decent living off betfair for example |
| 09:21.48 | bilarh | yeah :P |
| 09:21.53 | bilarh | even i'm up on betfair |
| 09:21.58 | bilarh | only about 20 quid, but still :D |
| 09:22.04 | bilarh | actually, it must be more than that |
| 09:22.16 | bilarh | i've probably placed around 50 quid in total deposits |
| 09:22.22 | bilarh | over a year and a half |
| 09:22.31 | bilarh | and i've withdrawn 100 |
| 09:22.38 | bilarh | maybe i should give up my day job :D |
| 09:23.01 | Leeds | I went to Macau at the weekend, came back having won about $700 in the casino |
| 09:23.12 | Leeds | 45 quid or so |
| 09:23.35 | Leeds | paid for about half of the day trip - ferries, food and incidentals |
| 09:23.54 | hali | i gamble a lot too actually, im staying in my current job! whats a gamble now when we've been owned by VC for a year and a half, not sure what they plan to do with us |
| 09:24.09 | bilarh | hali: exactly |
| 09:24.13 | hali | i think ass rape is on the table :) |
| 09:29.53 | Leeds | I did lose around $5000 in Macau last summer... |
| 09:30.05 | hali | now i need to figure out how easy it is to move cpu's areound on sun v880 cpu boards |
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| 09:31.34 | bilarh | hali: soldering iron :D |
| 09:32.24 | hali | i hope not |
| 09:32.33 | hali | bought 4 new boards off ebay :D |
| 09:32.44 | hali | 2x1200MHz/8Gb each |
| 09:32.52 | hali | all 4 cost £3200 |
| 09:33.07 | bilarh | feck me |
| 09:33.14 | bilarh | they're like 32k from sun, aren't they |
| 09:33.14 | hali | they v880 with 2x900mhz procs cost around £40k a few years ago :) |
| 09:33.16 | bilarh | or was that for tw |
| 09:33.18 | bilarh | o |
| 09:33.32 | bilarh | i remember when we put a couple of boards in when i worked for that "service provider" |
| 09:33.36 | bilarh | it cost a bloody bomb |
| 09:33.38 | hali | yes |
| 09:33.43 | bilarh | and didn't make a huge amount of difference anyway |
| 09:33.45 | hali | these are refurbished though |
| 09:33.51 | bilarh | so were the ones we got! |
| 09:33.57 | bilarh | you can't buy brand new ones anymore |
| 09:34.01 | bilarh | it's all refurbished even via sun |
| 09:34.09 | bilarh | at least that's what i was told at the time |
| 09:34.18 | hali | ah, via sun with warranty is probably a lot more expensive |
| 09:34.25 | hali | we only got 90-days warranty |
| 09:34.34 | hali | it's only for development so im not to fussed |
| 09:34.37 | hali | sybase :S |
| 09:34.44 | bilarh | ah :) |
| 09:35.17 | hali | but it was from a "real" company and all |
| 09:35.24 | hali | i was surprised how much prices have dropped |
| 09:35.26 | bilarh | that's really cool actually |
| 09:35.36 | bilarh | i was quite surprised that it was still that expensive :D |
| 09:35.42 | bilarh | the v880 is a POS imo |
| 09:35.45 | hali | i had 3k in the budget to get 16Gb more ram for the box, got 8 new procs and 32Gb ram for that money |
| 09:36.05 | hali | v880's are pretty quick |
| 09:36.08 | hali | at least for sybase loads |
| 09:36.11 | bilarh | when you put it like that, it's good :D |
| 09:36.18 | bilarh | i hate them |
| 09:36.30 | bilarh | everywhere i've worked with them, they've been dog slow |
| 09:36.30 | hali | we have them running in three zones with one sybase server in each |
| 09:36.35 | bilarh | at servista, at the bank, here |
| 09:36.44 | hali | i think raid5 is the problem there |
| 09:36.51 | bilarh | no this was raid10 |
| 09:36.59 | bilarh | at servista we had hardware raid10 |
| 09:37.02 | hali | we have 6 internal mirrored disks plus an external sun t3 fc enclosure |
| 09:37.26 | bilarh | oh you mean *here* here |
| 09:37.26 | bilarh | yeah, raid5 is a killer, but it's the network that sucks |
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| 09:42.05 | gregj | http://cryptome.org/UK-Chip-PIN-07.pdf |
| 09:44.05 | bilarh | gregj: you moving into skimming? ;-) |
| 09:48.23 | gregj | I don't know what do you mean exactly |
| 09:48.34 | bilarh | a form of bank card fraud |
| 09:48.39 | gregj | I do pay taxes , if you mean that |
| 09:48.59 | gregj | nope :) it is just funny, that someone is saying this report should be confidential, while it is all over the web |
| 09:49.10 | bilarh | is it confidential? |
| 09:49.46 | gregj | so it says on the right top side of every page, but I never signed anything to get it - so I don't care |
| 09:49.51 | gregj | bah, I am not even english |
| 09:49.59 | gregj | me knows no engleze,sory |
| 09:49.59 | gregj | :P |
| 09:50.24 | bilarh | kan yuh riid dis? |
| 09:50.50 | gregj | yeah, probably someone made it confidential just because he wanted everybody to read it :) |
| 09:50.53 | gregj | niemoge |
| 09:50.56 | gregj | :P |
| 09:51.05 | bilarh | niemoge? |
| 09:51.13 | gregj | (aye kant) |
| 09:52.07 | bilarh | in polish? |
| 09:52.12 | gregj | yup |
| 09:52.17 | bilarh | ah :) |
| 09:53.36 | bilarh | hey so i read all polish people are going back home now? |
| 09:54.02 | Leeds | gregj: which end of Europe do you live in at the moment, anyway? |
| 09:54.47 | gregj | Cracow, PL |
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| 09:55.25 | Leeds | that's near Cambridge, right? |
| 09:55.32 | gregj | http://tiny.pl/l6hg |
| 09:55.38 | gregj | almost :) |
| 09:58.59 | gregj | about 3h away from London ;) |
| 10:00.08 | Leeds | I'm in the building with the blue roof: http://linkpot.net/greenness/ |
| 10:00.22 | Leeds | except that I'm going to get my bus home now... |
| 10:00.57 | gregj | ur in the uk ? |
| 10:01.07 | gregj | nope |
| 10:01.16 | gregj | that looks like a pool |
| 10:01.31 | gregj | dah wai st :D |
| 10:01.52 | gregj | we have a word 'dawaj' which means 'give it to me' in Polish, sounds very simmilar :D |
| 10:02.00 | Leeds | not a pool - it's the operational centre, as opposed to the editorial/content centre, of a major-ish newspaper |
| 10:02.06 | gregj | it can also mean 'you can do it' |
| 10:02.22 | Leeds | got to go now, shuttle bus |
| 10:03.53 | gregj | google maps wasn't able to calculate a route between my house, and his work place |
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| 10:14.14 | hali | hm, one thing i don't understand |
| 10:14.26 | hali | why do people panic when they see "100% memory usage" in linux? |
| 10:14.43 | hali | whats so fucking hard to understand about inode cache and buffers? |
| 10:15.10 | gregj | ppl need simple concepts |
| 10:15.40 | gregj | they are even scared away when you ask them to remember few passwords, few paths on disc (hence contextual searches now), etc, etc |
| 10:15.50 | gregj | and you want them to _understand_ how something works, nada |
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| 10:44.25 | Blapto | Moanin |
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| 10:56.23 | secretlondon | hi |
| 10:57.20 | zmey_g | hi |
| 10:58.31 | Blapto | Hello |
| 11:16.04 | gregj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxRSjEvdrUo |
| 11:16.15 | gregj | british sens of humour |
| 11:21.07 | gregj | oh no, I'm sorry, that's Irish accent |
| 11:28.10 | etorix | e secretlondon |
| 11:28.17 | secretlondon | ello |
| 11:28.18 | etorix | checked dis |
| 11:28.57 | etorix | http://sidux.net/etorix/ |
| 11:29.02 | etorix | updatered |
| 11:29.27 | secretlondon | cool |
| 11:30.12 | etorix | still a few lintians to go |
| 11:30.51 | secretlondon | k |
| 11:44.00 | gregj | breakfast ? |
| 11:44.19 | secretlondon | yeah - muesli |
| 11:44.22 | secretlondon | and coffee |
| 11:44.42 | bilarh | coffee is good |
| 11:45.07 | secretlondon | agreed |
| 11:46.11 | gregj | coke's better |
| 11:46.23 | bilarh | only on friday and saturday nights for me |
| 11:46.30 | bilarh | the liquid stuff, i mean |
| 12:40.12 | Ch0Hag | Wow would you look at that. A website that doesn't tell me to enable cookies or javascript. |
| 12:40.18 | Ch0Hag | They may even get my money. |
| 12:50.29 | bilarh | why don't you want to enable cookies? |
| 12:57.54 | hali | or javascript? |
| 12:58.19 | hali | Ch0Hag: are you a paranoid pot smoking perl coder or something? :) |
| 13:02.34 | Ch0Hag | No, I had it off because some site was being retarded. |
| 13:03.18 | Ch0Hag | I just hadn't turned it on, but having a dress code is not the way to attract shoppers. |
| 13:03.43 | Ch0Hag | Later on in the site, when ordering or some such starts demanding it could perhaps be considered acceptible, if pointless, but not right at the beginning. |
| 13:28.37 | Ch0Hag | GNU's auto* is painfully horrible, but at least it makes some kind of morbid sense. |
| 13:28.53 | Ch0Hag | I just changed a Makefile in a non-gnu project because the build failed, and now the build failed again because it changed it backe. |
| 13:29.00 | Ch0Hag | back |
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| 14:20.55 | Cope | hali: :) |
| 14:21.07 | Cope | I could use your advice :) |
| 14:21.09 | wethrin | Hey Cope |
| 14:21.13 | Cope | hello wethrin |
| 14:28.22 | bilarh | ok, i'll just have to whinge a bit about the earth quake and peoples reactions |
| 14:28.33 | wethrin | people reacted? |
| 14:28.53 | Cope | what earth quake? |
| 14:28.57 | bilarh | fine, people are scared and shit of it, don't really have a massive problem with that |
| 14:29.08 | wethrin | Cope: The one a couple of nights ago |
| 14:29.08 | Cope | -Enocontext |
| 14:29.17 | bilarh | but there was this prize idiot interviewed on radio1 yesterday |
| 14:29.29 | Cope | enough said |
| 14:29.41 | Cope | radio1.... prize idiot.... why does that surprise you? |
| 14:29.47 | bilarh | and he said something along the lines "the house was shaking and there was noise, so we all walked out on the street because we thought it was a terrorist attack" |
| 14:30.04 | bilarh | ffs, like, how is that the fucking first thing that comes to your mind? |
| 14:30.26 | Cope | what were the alternatives? |
| 14:30.32 | bilarh | well, i don' tknow... |
| 14:30.40 | wethrin | Cope: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7266136.stm |
| 14:30.44 | bilarh | but i wouldn't have thought "ooh, must be a terrorist" |
| 14:31.07 | Cope | well, in recent years, reasons for buildings to shake... |
| 14:31.10 | Cope | 1) a bomb |
| 14:31.13 | wethrin | I thought it was a goods train going past, as the house normally shakes when one passes. Then realised that there wasn't actually a trani going past. So fell asleep. |
| 14:31.14 | Cope | 2) erm... a bomb |
| 14:31.33 | Cope | hrm.... was it in the vening? |
| 14:31.47 | wethrin | 1am |
| 14:31.51 | bilarh | i personally thought it was a *paedophile terrorist* |
| 14:31.55 | wethrin | Well, 0052 or so |
| 14:32.16 | bilarh | this country is full of the, dontcha know? hiding under every bush and in every alley way |
| 14:32.27 | bilarh | s/the/them/ |
| 14:32.57 | bilarh | the government and press should stop scaring normal people all the time... i think that would make this country better |
| 14:33.30 | wethrin | Stop people reading the Daily Mail, and the Di-ly Express |
| 14:33.37 | bilarh | and the sun |
| 14:33.46 | wethrin | Eh, the Sun mostly takes the piss |
| 14:33.46 | Cope | y'know i was up then, and i did notice plates and glasses rattle |
| 14:33.48 | wethrin | Out of itself too |
| 14:33.56 | Cope | interesting |
| 14:34.06 | wethrin | Cope: But it didn't spill your tea, did it? |
| 15:02.13 | Blapto | Beer and burgers, mm mm |
| 15:03.03 | Blapto | I was in a car down the A10 at the time, didn't notice a thing |
| 15:15.14 | zmey_g | the last earth quake of 6 degree caught me on the 9 floor in 1991, i believe. it was something! |
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| 15:39.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: :-P |
| 15:41.50 | bilarh | dick_turpin! |
| 15:42.02 | bilarh | please tell me you didn't feel scared you were going to die during the earth quake? |
| 15:42.15 | bilarh | seeing as you live up in scotland |
| 15:43.05 | hali | did people seriously think they where going to die from the earthquake? |
| 15:43.14 | hali | sounds more like a tabloid story |
| 15:43.18 | bilarh | yeah there was loads of people saying they were really scared |
| 15:43.22 | bilarh | no it was real people interviewed on the tv |
| 15:43.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Groan: You should have seen Central TV, images of smashed chimneys and shaking CCTV cameras |
| 15:43.31 | bilarh | to be fair, some of the houses seemed quite damaged |
| 15:43.58 | bilarh | dick_turpin: my personal favourite was the dude on radio1 news who immediately assumed it was a terrorist attack |
| 15:44.01 | bilarh | plank |
| 15:44.41 | Blapto | My fave was a guy on the register who commented that his girlfriend woke up with "What's going on? Is it the cat?" |
| 15:44.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: When the Dudley one happened I was asleep, it woke me up and I thought it was a plane crash!! |
| 15:45.08 | bilarh | dudleeeeeeyyy |
| 15:45.13 | bilarh | sorry, had to say it :D |
| 15:45.17 | dick_turpin | bilarh: (We get a lot of planes going to Birm airport) |
| 15:45.30 | bilarh | how about burning 4x4's? |
| 15:45.42 | dick_turpin | bilarh: ? |
| 15:45.54 | bilarh | or was that scotland? |
| 15:46.10 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Scotland you Muppet |
| 15:46.45 | bilarh | well, you know what these terrorist lurking in every nook and cranny are like |
| 15:46.57 | bilarh | mind, in birmingham it's mroe likely to be the local hoodie joy riders |
| 15:47.40 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Um /me needs to be careful, more like yarddies (Spelling?) |
| 15:48.02 | bilarh | i thought that was brixton? |
| 15:48.14 | bilarh | or have i got my minorities wrong? |
| 15:48.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh: We seem to get a lot of shootings just lately, drive by's ect |
| 15:49.17 | bilarh | i read in the daily mail that it was due to terrorist training camps |
| 15:49.43 | starshine | rofl @ "is that the cat?" -> quake |
| 15:49.59 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Rotfl did you see them Muppets jumping over a stream yelling stuff, very funny |
| 15:50.09 | bilarh | no? :) |
| 15:50.21 | dick_turpin | starshine: :-) |
| 15:50.32 | starshine | I did know someone once who got landed on by the books of a bookshelf during quake |
| 15:50.46 | starshine | she'd been at a swell party the night before and was staying-over on the couch |
| 15:51.08 | starshine | so the shelf waqs just above her and it's strapped proper but the books all leapt to their doooooom |
| 15:52.29 | starshine | her *thinking* self took it all in stride and found it very funny actually, but... |
| 15:53.09 | starshine | ...she couldn't make herself sleep indoors except in a huuuuge empty room. |
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| 15:53.42 | starshine | sort of a fear of tight-spaces that only applied to trying to rest. |
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| 15:53.52 | bilarh | secretlondon! |
| 15:54.05 | bilarh | did you do what i told you to? ;-) |
| 15:54.23 | dick_turpin | starshine: So has she taken to sleeping in Stadiums then? |
| 15:54.50 | secretlondon | laptop froze so I've been trying to make better |
| 15:54.59 | secretlondon | in failsafe gnome atn |
| 15:55.04 | starshine | dick_turpin: nah she eventually got over it |
| 15:55.08 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I hope not, you up in court tomorrow for the last thing you told someone to do |
| 15:55.21 | secretlondon | bilarh: I've applied for lots of jobs online, and have a meeting with (another) pimp tomorrow morn for another public sector job |
| 15:55.32 | bilarh | secretlondon: cool :D |
| 15:56.03 | dick_turpin | starshine: I was going to say crashing books on your head is one way of getting knowledge in the old bonce (head) |
| 15:56.04 | secretlondon | had an interview with a pimp on tues for public sector work - they said they'd take refs immediately but haven't contacted them yet |
| 15:56.27 | Blapto | secretlondon, what's public sector work then? |
| 15:56.35 | bilarh | secretlondon: sometimes they don't bother for a while, i think |
| 15:56.37 | dick_turpin | Blapto: Council |
| 15:56.47 | secretlondon | Blapto: you know council, government type of thing |
| 15:57.00 | starshine | dick_turpin: hehe ya some people seem to need that :D |
| 15:57.01 | Blapto | OK |
| 15:57.13 | secretlondon | going back to what I did before - public sector admin |
| 15:57.20 | secretlondon | better than benefits tho |
| 15:57.35 | secretlondon | her majesty's paper shuffler |
| 15:57.37 | bilarh | two minutes before i'm outta here |
| 15:58.16 | dick_turpin | starshine: Over here we say "Carve that (txt) in a hammer head and biff you on the forehead that way it might sink in |
| 15:58.51 | secretlondon | bilarh: they hassled me to get the referees to them "that afternoon", "asap" etc. of course they bullshit massively |
| 15:58.59 | secretlondon | dick: you might, I've never heard that |
| 15:59.00 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Stay you Nordic woos |
| 15:59.23 | bilarh | dick_turpin: that means i have to listen to your drivel! |
| 15:59.57 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Thats cos you've never worked :-) |
| 16:00.19 | bilarh | secretlondon: everyone does... especially public sector |
| 16:00.22 | bilarh | imo |
| 16:00.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You know your mum? |
| 16:00.40 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hah! she was angry with my brother last time i called, so temporarily, at least, i'm her favourite son! |
| 16:01.13 | secretlondon | bilarh: being rude to yer dad? |
| 16:01.54 | bilarh | no, thankfully dick_turpin is not my dad |
| 16:01.56 | bilarh | as far as i know at least |
| 16:02.01 | bilarh | mind, he is about the right age |
| 16:02.05 | bilarh | about 70 :D |
| 16:02.08 | dick_turpin | bilarh: FO |
| 16:02.21 | bilarh | dick_turpin: :D |
| 16:04.05 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Your mum likes your misses more than you |
| 16:06.14 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, i read 'misses' as /kisses/ and wondered what you were on about |
| 16:06.42 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Thats coz you're pissed again :-) |
| 16:07.10 | bilarh | ah boudiccas darling |
| 16:07.33 | bilarh | oh damnit |
| 16:07.36 | bilarh | i've missed my car again |
| 16:07.45 | bilarh | i have to go catch the next one now thanks to you lot |
| 16:07.48 | Blapto | how can you miss your own car? |
| 16:08.01 | bilarh | it was supposed to depart at 4:00 sharp |
| 16:08.15 | bilarh | dick_turpin: it's because they're easier |
| 16:08.23 | bilarh | and in the case of boudiccas, well... |
| 16:08.28 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Slapper |
| 16:08.46 | bilarh | dick_turpin: always :D |
| 16:09.05 | bilarh | secretlondon: are we boring you? :P |
| 16:09.16 | secretlondon | and makes a mental note not to be drubk in front of bilarh |
| 16:09.29 | dick_turpin | Rotflmao |
| 16:10.03 | bilarh | secretlondon: i'll try anyway :P |
| 16:10.06 | bilarh | anyway, i have to go now |
| 16:10.09 | bilarh | l8rs folks |
| 16:10.13 | bilarh | and dick_turpin |
| 16:10.13 | secretlondon | bye |
| 16:10.15 | boudiccas | bilarh, i'm as sober as a judge in court |
| 16:10.18 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Also he is a secret cross dresser so keep your clothes on |
| 16:10.40 | bilarh | boudiccas: i'm not sure if that actually means you're drunk or not:) |
| 16:10.46 | secretlondon | boudiccas: one of those mad old senile ones? |
| 16:10.54 | bilarh | dick_turpin: not very secret now, thanks to you, dick! :( |
| 16:11.02 | secretlondon | {{reqphoto}} |
| 16:11.06 | boudiccas | secretlondon, probably :))) |
| 16:11.14 | dick_turpin | bilarh: We aim to please :-) |
| 16:11.23 | boudiccas | but hit the trees |
| 16:11.33 | bilarh | dick_turpin: btw, i'm picking your daughter up after school tomorrow, hope that's ok |
| 16:11.47 | boudiccas | bilarh, which one, he's got two |
| 16:12.08 | bilarh | boudiccas: durr... the younger one of course :D |
| 16:12.23 | boudiccas | ah, the 14 yo |
| 16:12.32 | boudiccas | the elder is 16 :) |
| 16:12.49 | bilarh | i feel more comfortable on this side anyway :) |
| 16:13.11 | bilarh | dick_turpin: but i've bought a clapped out corsa for the occation :( |
| 16:13.17 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: They are twins |
| 16:13.17 | bilarh | occasion |
| 16:13.47 | secretlondon | dick_turpin: with 2 years apart? That must have been.. painful |
| 16:14.05 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Will you use your usual line "wanna stroke some puppies, see the pony" |
| 16:14.24 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: What? |
| 16:14.51 | secretlondon | dick_turpin: twins - one 14, one 16? |
| 16:14.59 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, fair enough, born two years apart |
| 16:15.08 | boudiccas | :)))))) |
| 16:15.33 | boudiccas | secretlondon, i made up their ages, although i think that the eldest is 16 yo |
| 16:15.39 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Lol no. Twin girls they will be 16 in June (I can say that now bilarh has gone) |
| 16:15.46 | secretlondon | ah ok |
| 16:16.10 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Monique and Hannah |
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| 16:16.55 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Oh and I forgot Archie 8 months |
| 16:17.06 | boudiccas | :) |
| 16:17.26 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Don't smile he's a little sod |
| 16:17.48 | secretlondon | a new one? eek |
| 16:17.58 | secretlondon | or is that grandson? |
| 16:18.01 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Its a dog |
| 16:18.04 | secretlondon | oh |
| 16:18.17 | zmey_g | :) |
| 16:18.30 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, just what you needed, another bloke in your life :) |
| 16:18.32 | dick_turpin | secretlondon: Archie=ArchLinux lol |
| 16:19.13 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: He makes me luagh acts all tough then shits himself at a leaf falling off the tree |
| 16:19.17 | dick_turpin | laugh |
| 16:20.35 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Got some new pictures. want to see? |
| 16:21.03 | zmey_g | dick_turpin: yes yes!!! |
| 16:21.35 | dick_turpin | There you go |
| 16:21.50 | boudiccas | sorry, dick_turpin not atm. i've got a stomach upset and have to keep dashing to the loo |
| 16:22.13 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You pregnant, wheres bilarh I'll kill him |
| 16:22.26 | boudiccas | doubtful! :) |
| 16:22.45 | boudiccas | it can't be bilarh anyways |
| 16:22.52 | boudiccas | i've never met him :) |
| 16:23.01 | secretlondon | phew |
| 16:23.24 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: He moves in mysterious ways |
| 16:24.36 | boudiccas | that he does! :)) |
| 16:58.43 | secretlondon | my bug on gnome's inability to start was closed with a rude message and a link to the support tracker :( |
| 16:59.23 | Blapto | don't take it personally, devs are rude. |
| 16:59.41 | secretlondon | well this one in particular lacks social skills |
| 16:59.48 | Blapto | not like us genial (but potentially violent) sysadmins |
| 17:00.39 | Blapto | and DBAs are just evil. |
| 17:00.39 | secretlondon | hmm |
| 17:03.39 | z00dax | (sysadmins)++ |
| 17:03.45 | z00dax | (users)-- |
| 17:06.27 | secretlondon | but I'm a bug traiger myself - he treated me like the lowest level of luser |
| 17:08.02 | Blapto | or order pizza in |
| 17:08.39 | secretlondon | yeah I just don't think I have the cash on me |
| 17:09.00 | cpufreak | thats what a creditcard is for |
| 17:16.58 | secretlondon | I only appear to have 1 pizza leaflet here anyway |
| 17:17.09 | Blapto | try paying with it |
| 17:18.41 | secretlondon | no sane pizza place round here would take cards |
| 17:19.06 | Blapto | try looking for change down the back of the sofa |
| 17:19.22 | secretlondon | I get the message ffs |
| 17:19.31 | Blapto | What message? |
| 17:19.35 | Blapto | I'm just bored at work... |
| 17:20.07 | Blapto | Well, not bored... Lethargic. Too much lunch |
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| 17:29.24 | cpufreak | secretlondon: www.dominos.nl |
| 17:29.26 | cpufreak | er |
| 17:29.29 | cpufreak | s/nl/co.uk/ |
| 17:29.39 | cpufreak | though the dutch site is better |
| 17:35.22 | Blapto | If you update the software on a netapp filer it announces that it is "deleting dirty region" |
| 18:11.52 | *** part/#gllug Blapto (n=martin@ip-87-86-8-3.easynet.co.uk) |
| 18:38.57 | Ch0Hag | Dammit. I want to watch my own failures in auth.log, not those of a million script kiddies. |
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| 18:54.08 | wethrin | Ewwww |
| 18:54.09 | Ch0Hag | Yeah I added the IP to the blacklist. |
| 18:54.14 | Ch0Hag | Still bloody annoying though. |
| 18:54.41 | z00dax | changing default listening ports also makes a huge diff |
| 18:54.59 | Ch0Hag | Yes, it would get on my nerves any time I tried to login. |
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| 18:56.25 | z00dax | thats why you have .ssh/config |
| 18:57.08 | Ch0Hag | I know, and I use it, but I use too many machines to wholly rely upon its presence. |
| 19:00.40 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.17 | Ch0Hag | Yes, thankyou wiki, what I want to do when I double-click on some text is change it. |
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| 21:32.08 | Discordian | Hi |
| 21:32.18 | secretlondo | hi |
| 21:35.34 | Discordian | Tis quiet here |
| 21:36.39 | secretlondon | yep |
| 21:44.00 | Discordian | Hmmm elonix are doing a new 99 quid notebook |
| 21:44.35 | secretlondon | ooh |
| 21:44.44 | secretlondon | whats the spec? |
| 21:45.35 | Discordian | Not disclosed as yet |
| 21:46.33 | secretlondon | presume its a sub notebook thing |
| 21:47.13 | secretlondon | sounds cool though - I could actually afford that ;) |
| 21:47.35 | wethrin | There's better things to spend money on... |
| 21:50.14 | secretlondon | really? |
| 21:50.14 | secretlondon | like food and rent I suppose |
| 21:50.25 | secretlondon | then cool geek toys |
| 21:50.37 | secretlondon | 99 quid notebook = 12 pizzas |
| 21:51.34 | wethrin | mmm....pizzas |
| 21:51.39 | z00dax | mmm pizza |
| 21:52.57 | secretlondon | mmm sub notebook |
| 21:53.33 | z00dax | what kind of ram des the ultra/10 use ? |
| 21:54.01 | hali | sun ram |
| 21:54.19 | hali | i have 4gb ram that fits in a ultra60 if you have one |
| 21:54.21 | hali | or can get one |
| 21:54.26 | hali | or ultra 80 |
| 21:54.39 | hali | actually, i have a spare 420r to take the ram from so got cpu's as well if you need |
| 21:54.54 | hali | or ultra2 or ultra30 |
| 21:54.59 | hali | ultra2 is ace |
| 21:55.11 | hali | 10 times better than u10/u5 |
| 21:56.24 | hali | ultra 1e is not a bad box |
| 21:56.30 | hali | the original ultra 1 is a bit boring |
| 21:56.34 | hali | slow scsi and only 10mbit ethernet |
| 21:56.36 | secretlondon | and 6 sparcstation 20s in a wardrobe |
| 21:56.43 | hali | blimey |
| 21:56.52 | hali | good machines in their days |
| 21:56.55 | hali | but not much fun now |
| 21:58.10 | z00dax | the ultra10 is the only machine I have, and tbh I dont think I want any more sparc machines |
| 21:58.20 | z00dax | unless its something I can actually replace my desktop with |
| 21:58.40 | z00dax | or if its a t2000 or something, but those cost a bomb |
| 21:58.56 | cpufreak | they're obsolete too |
| 21:59.18 | cpufreak | really can't' be arsed with sparc shit anymore, there is no point |
| 22:00.00 | cpufreak | sure they're 32 threads in 1U (T1000), but they're 32 very slow threads |
| 22:00.10 | wethrin | hali: I have a U60. If you have spare RAM...... |
| 22:00.27 | cpufreak | when I can have 8 cores of Xeon, or Optron in 1U instead, which are all very fast... its a non brainer |
| 22:00.44 | cpufreak | I've got a Sun Blade 2000 workstation if anyone wants it |
| 22:00.50 | cpufreak | but not quite for free |
| 22:00.59 | secretlondon | i've been thinking I could use the ultra 1 to build SPARC thungs on |
| 22:00.59 | secretlondon | things |
| 22:01.15 | cpufreak | its a Ultra III 1.06GHz, 2GB RAM, 73GB FCAL hard disk, and some fancy frame buffer |
| 22:01.33 | hali | wethrin: sure |
| 22:01.36 | wethrin | secretlondon: Only if you want to be able to go and have a holiday while something's compiling |
| 22:01.44 | wethrin | hali: Hurrah. Will you be at the meeting on the 15th? |
| 22:02.07 | hali | wethrin: i can take 2 18gb drives, 4x450mhz procs and 4gb ram from the 420r if needed |
| 22:02.08 | wethrin | cpufreak: That sounds like it could be fairly nippy |
| 22:02.14 | hali | wethrin: possibly, not sure |
| 22:02.22 | cpufreak | wethrin: yes. but its sparc. :) |
| 22:02.22 | z00dax | cpufreak: what would you consider a reasonable price ? |
| 22:02.26 | wethrin | I have drives, procs, and all that |
| 22:02.32 | wethrin | cpufreak: Yeah. It'd be faster than a 1GHz P3 :) |
| 22:03.06 | cpufreak | z00dax: um well I paid 700quid for it back in 2005 |
| 22:03.34 | hali | i *may* have some ran that fits in the b2000 |
| 22:03.38 | hali | from a 280r |
| 22:03.50 | hali | not sure if that is officially scrapped yet |
| 22:04.10 | cpufreak | ~25% of what I paid would be nice |
| 22:04.30 | hali | thats a very generous price |
| 22:04.39 | hali | i would value it at 300 or so |
| 22:04.52 | hali | but it is for a good cause |
| 22:05.07 | z00dax | I still cant afford it. :/ |
| 22:06.31 | hali | z00dax: what about wethrin's u60 and some of my old junk? |
| 22:06.52 | z00dax | i didnt think wethrin wanted to let go of his u60 ? |
| 22:07.18 | hali | ah, perhaps not? i read between the lines as if he offered it :) |
| 22:07.59 | hali | i mean i have the 420r if that is any good, it's pretty much a u80 in a bigger chassi |
| 22:08.06 | hali | with dual psu |
| 22:08.20 | Discordian | 420Rs are good kit |
| 22:08.26 | hali | i think i may even have two, one with a1000 array, if th recyclers haven't taken that |
| 22:08.34 | wethrin | hali: No, I was after memory :) |
| 22:09.31 | cpufreak | I sent him, and a couple of other guys there to bring back a couple of transit vans worth of kit. |
| 22:09.39 | secretlondon | wethrin: I know. and tbh I'd have to stick ultralinux on it and that makes openbsd looks easy to install and user friendly |
| 22:09.41 | wethrin | yay kit! |
| 22:09.50 | z00dax | hali: maybe :) how much ram does it have ? and a disk ? how about a display card ? |
| 22:09.53 | wethrin | OpenBSD *is* easy to install |
| 22:10.03 | cpufreak | mostly x4100s and x2200s |
| 22:10.03 | cpufreak | and a few more interesting things |
| 22:10.54 | hali | z00dax: maxed out, 4gb ram, 4 cpu, no frame buffer though, qfe ethernet and diff scsi pci cards |
| 22:11.05 | hali | 2x18gb but not sure i can give you the disks |
| 22:11.48 | z00dax | hali: that might work for me. I have a couple of disks 9gb sorts that could be used |
| 22:14.05 | hali | got some netra t1's too |
| 22:14.09 | hali | but they are fairly shit |
| 22:14.15 | hali | 1U boxes with 512megs |
| 22:14.28 | wethrin | I quite like them |
| 22:15.41 | wethrin | They're generally reliable little beasts |
| 22:15.59 | hali | yes but slow to do dev work on |
| 22:16.14 | wethrin | They weren't really designed as dev boxes |
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| 22:58.53 | secretlondon | discordian; the reg says that the spec should have been announced today |
| 22:59.05 | Ch0Hag | "'course, I'm just blaming it on the fact that Vista sucks rocky mountain oysters, swallows, and savors the flavor." |
| 23:03.09 | Discordian | secretlondon: this ? http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/28/elonex_launches_one/# |
| 23:03.42 | secretlondon | ah I have the one from the 19/2 which is saying they will announce on the 28/2 |
| 23:04.23 | secretlondon | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/02/19/elonex_guns_for_eee/ |
| 23:05.34 | Discordian | It's not nearly as powerful as the eee |
| 23:05.41 | secretlondon | "300MHz LNX Code 8 processor" |
| 23:05.52 | Discordian | and no one seems to know anything about the CPU |
| 23:05.52 | secretlondon | whatever wtf that is |
| 23:07.39 | Discordian | Hmmm |
| 23:07.48 | Discordian | It may be ARM |
| 23:10.23 | secretlondon | ooh |
| 23:10.30 | secretlondon | strongarm or something |
| 23:10.39 | Discordian | Possibly |
| 23:12.26 | Discordian | maybe FPGA arm core if it is produced by Elonex |
| 23:16.00 | Discordian | Hmmm |
| 23:16.33 | Discordian | Okay LNX is the stock symbol for Lennox Holdings |
| 23:17.09 | secretlondon | " The price is also achieved with a request to the |
| 23:17.11 | secretlondon | government to make the product VAT exempt & support from corporate sponsors whom are currently |
| 23:17.11 | secretlondon | going through the selection process. |
| 23:17.11 | secretlondon | " |
| 23:18.05 | secretlondon | so if the govt charge VAT (very likely) and they don't get corporate sponsorship it will be more than £99 |
| 23:18.05 | Discordian | heh |
| 23:18.23 | Discordian | well so it's gonna be >£99 |
| 23:19.05 | secretlondon | this is from the press release |
| 23:19.31 | Discordian | It doesn't look that impressive |
| 23:19.37 | secretlondon | there is 0 chance the govt will make it vat except |
| 23:19.38 | secretlondon | excempt |
| 23:19.52 | Discordian | quite so |
| 23:20.03 | secretlondon | it's in between a pda and a laptop |
| 23:20.19 | Discordian | laptop form factor |
| 23:20.25 | Discordian | pda tech |
| 23:20.29 | secretlondon | that's why I wonder if it's an arm, as 300Mhz is not dreadful for a pda /smart phone |
| 23:20.50 | Discordian | that's why I think it's arm too |
| 23:21.43 | secretlondon | their press stuff makes a big thing about it being open source |
| 23:21.56 | secretlondon | and some stuff about 1/100 will be donated to deprived children |
| 23:22.02 | Discordian | aye |
| 23:22.21 | Discordian | It's the OLPC market space |
| 23:22.32 | Nafallo | baah |
| 23:22.41 | Nafallo | I want the new EeePC :-) |
| 23:22.44 | secretlondon | well debian has an arm port |
| 23:22.49 | Discordian | except the OLPC is much more innovative |
| 23:22.55 | secretlondon | so ubuntu will have to use that to make ONEbuntu |
| 23:23.00 | Discordian | 1GB disk is small |
| 23:23.06 | secretlondon | if we are right |
| 23:23.08 | secretlondon | jeos? |
| 23:23.26 | Discordian | i dunno |
| 23:23.27 | secretlondon | 1gb it really isn't gonna run open office ;) |
| 23:23.28 | Nafallo | ehrm... |
| 23:23.40 | Nafallo | secretlondon: do you know what jeos is? |
| 23:23.52 | secretlondon | embedded linux I think? |
| 23:23.57 | Nafallo | secretlondon: no |
| 23:24.13 | Nafallo | secretlondon: ubuntu for vmware appliances. |
| 23:24.19 | secretlondon | oh ok |
| 23:24.40 | Discordian | My zaurus had some crap Office package |
| 23:24.55 | Discordian | in about 32Mb |
| 23:35.54 | *** join/#gllug murb (n=murb@blue.danu.be) |
| 23:36.55 | secretlondon | google knows nothing about lnx cpus |
| 23:37.03 | Discordian | I know |
| 23:37.17 | Discordian | I've been looking too |
| 23:41.10 | Discordian | I'm not sure 330mHz would be good for say iplayer |
| 23:41.14 | Discordian | or youtube |
| 23:41.30 | Discordian | even assuming there's flash support |
| 23:42.55 | secretlondon | what on earth is linos? |
| 23:44.27 | Discordian | dunno |
| 23:45.11 | Discordian | Some PR droids mis spelling of Linux? |
| 23:46.53 | secretlondon | debian based apparently |
| 23:47.08 | Discordian | hmm |
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