00:04.22 | Discordian | Errrk |
00:04.43 | Discordian | Building it here barfs |
00:04.50 | secretlondon | is that a bad move? |
00:05.16 | Discordian | It claims to want > 0.3.2 of gnome-doc-utils |
00:05.17 | secretlondon | seahorse? |
00:05.22 | Discordian | Yeah |
00:05.59 | Discordian | yet gnome-doc-utils is higher than that |
00:07.08 | secretlondon | does it need a -dev package like debian distros |
00:07.13 | secretlondon | in debiqan land you build against -dev |
00:07.30 | Discordian | I tried looking for -devel |
00:07.45 | Discordian | The fedora equiv |
00:08.18 | secretlondon | k |
00:08.57 | Discordian | gurgle |
00:09.57 | Discordian | Of course stringwise 0.3,2 < 0.10.3 |
00:13.02 | secretlondon | oh ffs |
00:13.12 | secretlondon | it can't be that broken surely? |
00:20.45 | Discordian | so it seems |
00:26.28 | Discordian | and now it barfs again |
00:30.37 | Discordian | With lots of hacking I can build it |
00:33.22 | Discordian | I'll reboot and see what F8 does |
00:34.05 | Armand | DON'T |
00:34.15 | Armand | It's the auto-destruct key! |
00:34.25 | Discordian | err no |
00:34.26 | Armand | ^_^ |
00:34.37 | Discordian | I'm running F7 now |
00:34.41 | Armand | hehe |
00:34.55 | Discordian | worry if you see me on here on Doze |
00:34.58 | Armand | sorry.. bored. :P |
00:35.07 | Armand | 3Operating System: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP3, v.3264 (Build #2600) |
00:35.11 | Armand | do what now? |
00:35.13 | Armand | lol |
00:35.20 | Armand | I think I offended him! :P |
00:36.12 | secretlondon | armand: mentioning windows generally has that effect |
00:36.23 | Armand | oops. ^_^ |
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00:38.30 | Armand | Did I offend you, Disc?? :P |
00:39.32 | Discordian | No |
00:39.36 | Discordian | Rebooted |
00:39.41 | Discordian | to F8 |
00:39.47 | Armand | hahaha, yeah.. right! ^_^ |
00:40.18 | Discordian | Gonna try building it undet F8 |
00:44.42 | Armand | Yeah, I've decided to use F8 on my webserver.. Gentoo is PITA to install. |
00:45.32 | Discordian | i'd not use fedora on a production box |
00:49.03 | Discordian | Similar prob on FC8 |
00:49.38 | Discordian | 1.0.0 is > 1.5.55 for GPGME |
00:50.16 | secretlondon | crap |
00:51.10 | Discordian | and GPGME should be gpgme |
00:52.04 | Armand | Well, if it runs apache and I can SSH it, then it's good for me. |
00:52.18 | Discordian | err |
00:52.27 | Armand | ?_? |
00:53.28 | Discordian | you can run apache on doze |
00:53.34 | Discordian | and set up ssh |
00:53.47 | Armand | nah.. don't *want * winduhs. :P |
00:54.10 | Armand | it's a test bunneh webserver, so I can learn more about linux. |
00:54.12 | Discordian | doesn't mean you should |
00:54.44 | Discordian | okay |
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00:57.08 | secretlondon | hi geospart |
01:19.55 | Cope | lo |
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01:29.48 | Discordian | wb |
01:31.14 | secretlondo | ty |
01:31.19 | secretlondo | weather terrible |
01:31.27 | secretlondo | howling wind |
01:31.41 | Discordian | outside here too |
01:37.34 | Discordian | I'm stupid no doubt |
01:39.34 | Discordian | I'd love to have a good friend to share stuff with |
01:39.55 | Discordian | Not a euphemism |
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01:46.57 | hatevphones | oh ffs |
01:47.35 | Discordian | wb |
01:47.51 | secretlondon | i actually ran out of nicks |
01:48.00 | Discordian | hah |
01:48.07 | secretlondon | it locked up, and then locked up again whilst I was connecting |
01:48.17 | Discordian | ouch |
01:49.37 | Discordian | I'll no not have net access |
01:49.40 | Discordian | soon |
01:49.55 | secretlondon | eew |
01:50.03 | Discordian | and maybe never again |
01:50.29 | secretlondon | lack of job? |
01:50.43 | Discordian | yep |
01:50.56 | Discordian | and money |
01:59.37 | secretlondon | :( |
02:00.16 | Armand | Well, due to job issues, I'm thinking of moving. |
02:09.40 | secretlondon | night all |
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03:21.45 | Discordian | re |
04:15.40 | Discordian | Lots of nick changes |
04:16.07 | arika-chan | that's IRC for you |
04:16.19 | Discordian | i could do scrabble |
04:17.36 | Discordian | the times tomorrow has a copy of monopoly |
04:17.47 | arika-chan | intriguing |
04:17.53 | Discordian | might have to buy that |
04:18.22 | Discordian | though i do have the classic board game |
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05:38.57 | Discordian | wb |
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08:22.21 | etorix | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=10918 |
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09:35.52 | morsing | curson! |
09:36.01 | curson | hi |
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10:31.23 | morsing | Provito! |
11:19.21 | Provito | wb morsing, long time no see |
11:19.37 | morsing | :) |
11:19.43 | bilarh | hmm |
11:19.53 | Provito | steady eddy haha |
11:20.06 | bilarh | if i paid for my road tax yesterday, and the old disc ran out yesterday |
11:20.14 | bilarh | can i then drive the car if I've forgotten to put the new disc in? |
11:20.24 | bilarh | it's all electronic in this day and age, shurely? |
11:20.24 | morsing | Yes |
11:20.39 | morsing | They'll moan and you're not supposed to but they won't do anything |
11:20.44 | bilarh | if i get a fine, i'll tell them you told me :P |
11:20.46 | morsing | YEs, they can check |
11:20.49 | morsing | Sure... |
11:21.09 | bilarh | it must be all on electronic record anyway, otherwise the anpr stuff wouldn't work |
11:21.18 | bilarh | how's the chevelle coming along btw? |
11:21.20 | morsing | Indeed |
11:21.38 | morsing | Ermmm... Broke down again yesterday :) Delayed my journey by 4 hours |
11:21.54 | bilarh | ouch :-\ |
11:22.09 | bilarh | did you ever get it tuned up at all? |
11:22.11 | morsing | Not fun when the insulation on a 40mm2 starter wire burns through on the exhust manifold and shorts out |
11:22.34 | bilarh | no, that sounds like a pain in the arse :) |
11:22.41 | morsing | Yeah, a bit. It's up to 200HP now. 145 when I got it, then 175, now 200. |
11:23.08 | morsing | Timing is still out, can get another 10-15HP out of some more timing |
11:23.13 | bilarh | cool, what have you had done to it? |
11:23.28 | morsing | First step was a better distributor |
11:23.46 | morsing | Second was new inlet manifold and carburettor |
11:24.22 | morsing | Still plan on building a new engine but have no money at the moment |
11:25.29 | morsing | Rigght, time to cut my hair |
11:25.50 | bilarh | cool |
11:25.56 | bilarh | i'm doing some engine mods myself at the moment |
11:26.13 | bilarh | but off hold this month as my stupid work place fcked my overtime payments up again |
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13:36.28 | morsing | boudiccas! |
13:36.28 | morsing | kjalil! |
13:47.10 | boudiccas | morsing, yes? |
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15:19.15 | starshine | morning, all |
15:29.52 | hali | morning |
15:31.24 | Nafallo | ehrm |
15:31.28 | Nafallo | "morning" :-) |
15:32.24 | hali | afternoon for us in old blighty |
15:33.34 | hali | hmm, tempted to post a laptop trade to the list, wouldn't mind a huge 17" in trade for my 15.4" |
15:34.00 | etorix | and a slave to tote it about |
15:34.15 | hali | get an ibm x60 to tote about |
15:34.26 | hali | s/ibm/lenovo/ |
15:36.13 | hali | so the 17" is for home use only, like watching dvd's in bed |
15:37.16 | hali | and ffs, how cheap can memory get, 2gb for the x60 is £30 quid |
15:39.15 | Nafallo | <3 slave :-) |
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18:30.33 | secretlondon | hi |
18:30.56 | hali | hi |
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18:40.19 | secretlondon | bah laptop froze |
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19:12.46 | Ch0Hag | What's the magic dd or fdisk|fdisk incantation to duplicate a partition table layout? |
19:15.20 | Nafallo | http://www.cpqlinux.com/ddbackup.html |
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19:17.44 | Nafallo | oops. wrong channel. |
19:19.28 | zmey_g | Nafallo: thanks. good link |
19:19.37 | Ch0Hag | oh bah that doesn't copy extented partitions. |
19:19.41 | Ch0Hag | Otherwise, cheers. |
19:19.56 | Ch0Hag | For some reason I always forget that the MBR is 512 bytes. |
19:20.46 | Nafallo | Ch0Hag: yes it does. |
19:21.09 | Nafallo | Ch0Hag: just use /dev/sda for example it the entire disk including MBR will get piped. |
19:21.24 | Ch0Hag | It just didn't. |
19:21.35 | Ch0Hag | The new drive has partitions 1 to 4 but not 5-9. |
19:21.36 | Nafallo | weird |
19:23.24 | Ch0Hag | Which is to be expected copying just the mbr. |
19:23.49 | Ch0Hag | I'm sure there's a way to fdisk -l that can be piped into another fdisk. I guess I'll have to RTFM. |
19:24.09 | Nafallo | ehrm |
19:24.30 | Nafallo | dd of /dev/sda would be expected to grab EVERYTHING on that disk. |
19:24.50 | Nafallo | dd of only the first 512 would take only the MBR. |
19:25.28 | Ch0Hag | I don't want to duplicate the entire disk. That'll really screw md up. |
19:25.34 | Ch0Hag | Not to mention take about a week. |
19:26.13 | Nafallo | hehe. oki. |
19:42.10 | Ch0Hag | Here we go - sfdisk -d /dev/OLD | sfdisk /dev/NEW |
19:42.23 | Ch0Hag | Now I could have done it manually but finding that out was much more fun. |
20:02.06 | Ch0Hag | Yay. My RAID is well on the way to being. |
20:13.21 | Ch0Hag | resync goes in an unusual order. |
20:14.02 | Ch0Hag | Of md4-11, md4 then md10. What will be next? |
20:14.11 | Ch0Hag | Of 1-3, 1 then 3 and now 2. |
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21:09.31 | z00dax | rar! |
21:09.34 | z00dax | roar! |
21:10.09 | secretlondon | ello |
21:10.39 | z00dax | howse things ? |
21:14.01 | secretlondon | dunno - I slept until 6pm and haven't gone to the party I was invited to |
21:14.08 | secretlondon | so not that great, really.. |
21:14.11 | z00dax | ooh... Party's are good |
21:18.26 | secretlondon | it's weak. I should have gone, but then there is the whole drinking thing and whether I'm get low, and getting myself organised and arrgh |
21:19.03 | secretlondon | I should really go to the Pembury tomorrow but i won't be able to drink anything as I'm having a series of bloody tests the next morning |
21:19.55 | secretlondon | hiding away is lame |
21:23.30 | secretlondon | i'm doing ubuntu bug triage as something to do.. |
21:24.20 | Discordian | heh |
21:35.01 | Discordian | yeah tis |
22:26.39 | secretlondon | I bought a bulb of fennel (the veg) from the food co-op last week. It was pretty expensive £1.50 iirc but I've never tried before so I got it |
22:27.38 | secretlondon | I've finally decided to cook it. You can eat raw but I'm boiling. Apparently you don't eat the stalks or leaves (makes note to buy one with less stalks and leaves next time) |
22:27.55 | Discordian | i've never had fennel |
22:28.54 | secretlondon | me neither! |
22:29.03 | secretlondon | the herb is a diff plant |
22:29.12 | secretlondon | according to stuff I read |
22:29.27 | Discordian | that's strange |
22:45.56 | Discordian | I'd like to try fennel |
22:46.17 | Discordian | I tried shallots recently and now I'm a b |
22:46.20 | Discordian | big fan |
22:46.23 | secretlondon | cool |
22:46.36 | secretlondon | I have celeriac here which I also got from fareshares |
22:46.45 | secretlondon | I like trying new stuff :) |
22:46.59 | Discordian | Not sure I'd like cleriac |
22:47.24 | secretlondon | never tried |
22:48.03 | Discordian | I like some veggies |
22:48.41 | Discordian | I don't eat brocolli, cababage, sprouts etc |
22:52.31 | Discordian | I really must go fruit/veg shopping monday when the shop is open again |
22:52.59 | secretlondon | completely made up meal! |
22:53.11 | Discordian | heh |
22:53.15 | Discordian | what is it? |
22:53.36 | secretlondon | wholewheat pasta, boiled fennel with lumps of chedder. The 'sauce' is olive oil and white wine vinegar |
22:53.52 | Discordian | Sounds nice |
22:54.41 | hali | hm, sounds good |
22:54.58 | hali | i had wholewheat pasta too |
22:55.03 | hali | but with cow |
22:55.23 | hali | i should eat less meat really |
22:55.43 | hali | especially since i recently replace baby sweetcorn as my fav veg with brocolli |
22:55.53 | hali | and brocolli is really easy to cook |
22:56.08 | Discordian | my favourite veg is onion |
22:56.19 | hali | hm, can't just have onion :) |
22:56.35 | Discordian | nah tomatoes too |
22:56.48 | Discordian | and cucumber |
22:57.14 | secretlondon | i like onion |
22:57.19 | secretlondon | and lemons |
22:57.29 | Discordian | Mmm |
22:57.31 | secretlondon | stimulation food |
22:57.39 | Discordian | lemons are good |
22:57.59 | Discordian | The herbal tea I like is ginger and honey and lemon |
22:58.29 | secretlondon | i've been making lemon tea with real lemon |
22:59.01 | Discordian | bit acidic I'd have thought |
22:59.27 | secretlondon | just a slice of actual lemon in tea |
22:59.36 | Discordian | Oh right |
22:59.42 | secretlondon | much more lemony than lemon 'herbal' tea |
22:59.44 | Discordian | as in black tea? |
22:59.49 | secretlondon | yep |
23:00.13 | Discordian | I'm trying to avoid milk |
23:08.55 | hali | hm, Virgin DSL is showing it's ugly face |
23:09.15 | hali | downloading from a mirrorservice, speed: 6.3kB |
23:09.56 | secretlondon | eew |
23:10.07 | secretlondon | vodafone has given me perfect service today |
23:10.21 | secretlondon | I'm convinced it's a prob with saturation now |
23:10.32 | secretlondon | its always better at weekends and at night |
23:10.55 | hali | im gonna switch to be i think |
23:11.08 | hali | need to check how long their contract is |
23:11.15 | hali | as im tempted to move this year |
23:11.35 | secretlondon | my prob is bt want £££ to give me a landline |
23:12.01 | secretlondon | you can't switch from cable to be afaik, as you need a bt landline to transger it to be |
23:12.13 | secretlondon | and bt have a minumum term |
23:14.52 | z00dax | its basically reverse arp |
23:14.59 | z00dax | doh! wrong chan |
23:15.16 | hali | still using rarp? :) |
23:15.25 | z00dax | hali: yeah |
23:15.37 | z00dax | got netboot for this ultra/10 just setup |
23:15.38 | hali | i still use rarp to install solaris |
23:15.40 | hali | yep |
23:15.42 | hali | good on sparc |
23:15.47 | secretlondon | netbooting arggh |
23:15.52 | z00dax | i am running out of cd-r's here, so might as well switch to using netboot |
23:15.57 | secretlondon | thats the only time i've used |
23:15.58 | hali | netbooting ftw |
23:16.11 | hali | cd-rW? |
23:16.12 | z00dax | will get a patch into cobbler for OBP support, already have one for OpenFirmware |
23:16.42 | z00dax | hali: cd-rw is slow. I have a couple of those - but none of them burn at > 8x or so |
23:16.44 | Discordian | jumpstart++ |
23:16.51 | z00dax | the CD-r was running through at 40x :D |
23:18.57 | hali | handy to have netboot up and running anyway |
23:19.12 | z00dax | yea |
23:19.28 | hali | i spent a wasted a few days this week getting our windows ris install service to work from linux this week |
23:19.33 | z00dax | this u/10 has been processing deps for the last 18 minutes :D |
23:19.50 | z00dax | how did that go ? |
23:20.08 | hali | spoke breifly to boss btw, he's for some reason ok with me giving you the cpu and ram but not the chassis... i'll poke him again |
23:20.13 | hali | it went fine actually |
23:20.32 | hali | found some PXE/Windows guide ... pxelinux can boot windows just fine with some teaking |
23:20.40 | hali | tweaking* |
23:20.41 | z00dax | interesting |
23:21.16 | z00dax | i wonder if cobbler could be persuaded to do that as well |
23:21.27 | z00dax | i know someone has solaris and macosx stuff |
23:21.41 | hali | whats cobbler? |
23:22.16 | z00dax | thats it |
23:22.28 | hali | ah, looks handy for xen |
23:22.36 | z00dax | I shall be demo'ing cobber on the 15th March, its what my talk is about |
23:22.42 | hali | xen management in rhel is fairly basic |
23:22.47 | hali | nice |
23:22.48 | z00dax | hoping to do baremetal, Xen + virtualBox and KVM |
23:22.50 | Discordian | Oh cool |
23:23.00 | hali | virtualbox ftw! |
23:23.07 | hali | at least for desktops |
23:23.07 | z00dax | nice |
23:23.17 | hali | yes i'll try to attend as well |
23:23.31 | z00dax | yeah, well - I am sort of still waiting for someone to sort out nVidia drivers and Xen before I get it onto my desktops |
23:23.42 | hali | blimey, the cobbler site even mentions centos :) |
23:24.10 | hali | i like the detached window thingy in virtualbox, it's ace |
23:24.21 | hali | looks like a native app, no need for the full desktop clogging up space |
23:24.51 | z00dax | hali: yeah, lots of cobbler work done in sync with centos people - some of the most active people in the cobbler area right now are centos users . |
23:25.04 | z00dax | i need to get some proper mechanism to get cobbler rpms into the distro / repo |
23:25.22 | z00dax | the fact that there is a new release every few weeks makes it a major moving target |
23:25.37 | hali | so in essence cobbler is kickstart on steroids? |
23:25.42 | z00dax | 192.168.1.225 - - [01/Mar/2008:23:25:31 +0000] "GET /repo/Misc/centos-sparc/os/sparc/CentOS/perl-Net-SSLeay-1.30-4.el5.sparc.rpm HTTP/1.1" 206 16717 "-" "urlgrabber/3.1.0" |
23:25.49 | z00dax | ugh, wrong chan. sorry |
23:26.13 | z00dax | pretty much, it lets you setup distro's and arch's etc - then lets you manage who gets what and control that |
23:26.23 | hali | looks handy |
23:26.29 | hali | i have a similar diy thing |
23:26.34 | z00dax | its got some nice things as well, like it has repo management built in, and it lets you install pre-updated tree's so no yum update post install and wait for 50 min |
23:26.50 | hali | which is pretty much a shell script that s/foo/bar/'s a bunch of templates |
23:27.45 | z00dax | yeah, i have one of those as well |
23:28.03 | Discordian | I did at last job too |
23:36.50 | secretlondon | arrgh someone has complained about me on #ubuntu-motu |
23:37.29 | secretlondon | I was using the wrong process |
23:37.35 | wethrin | hm? |
23:37.54 | secretlondon | I told a developer to follow X rules, when he didn't need to |
23:38.00 | wethrin | oh |
23:38.06 | wethrin | mneh, no biggie |
23:38.09 | secretlondon | yeah |
23:38.28 | z00dax | motu ? what does that mean ? |
23:38.56 | z00dax | well,in English what does that mean - its not a very polite thing to call someone in Hindi |
23:39.01 | z00dax | or even Punjabi for that matter |
23:39.23 | secretlondon | ooh |
23:39.28 | secretlondon | masters of the universe |
23:39.44 | secretlondon | universe = ubuntu repository that is community maintained |
23:48.17 | hali | hm, they sure know how to make wank look like legal documents |
23:49.58 | hali | quite amusing, all the "Success stories" on their website are from pre-2003 :) |
23:50.24 | Discordian | Hahah |
23:50.40 | hali | http://sco.com/company/success/story.html?ID=15 |
23:50.40 | Discordian | i used to admin SCO Openserver |
23:50.43 | hali | thats a good one |
23:50.54 | Discordian | and Unixware systems |
23:50.55 | hali | they deployed SCO on Pentium Pro processors!!!11one |
23:51.55 | Discordian | Lol |
23:52.28 | Discordian | i still have my Unixware and Openserver install media |
23:53.05 | hali | i was looking for a unixwaer download on their site but it seems like they don't like hobbyists |
23:53.36 | Discordian | They used to have a hobbyist programme |
23:53.44 | Discordian | That's how I have my copies |
23:55.16 | Discordian | I diu |
23:55.26 | Discordian | ran on P3 hardware |
23:55.51 | hali | found a download actually |
23:55.58 | hali | looks like the most recent version is from 2006 |
23:56.43 | Discordian | Opensewer or unixware? |
23:56.53 | hali | uw |
23:57.02 | Discordian | UW is good |
23:57.11 | Discordian | fairly standard SVR 3.2 |
23:57.19 | Discordian | s/3.2/4.2 |
23:57.57 | Discordian | fmli menus etc |
23:58.11 | hali | they have open reqs |
23:58.19 | hali | hiring two developers |
23:58.31 | hali | in india |
23:58.33 | Discordian | haha |
23:59.19 | Discordian | unixware ran on sparcs - ICL used it for a while |