IRC log for #gllug on 20080302

00:03.02DiscordianAt one point Unixware was a SVR4.2 kernel and GNU userland
00:04.33z00dax[root@monk ~]# tail /var/log/httpd/access_log -n1
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00:04.36z00dax[root@monk ~]# date
00:04.38z00daxSun Mar  2 00:04:21 GMT 2008
00:04.56z00daxI may as well give up on this for tonight. off to sleep, be back in the morning
00:05.05wethrinnight
00:05.07wethrinoh, z00dax
00:05.09DiscordianNight z00dax
00:05.10wethrinBefore you go...
00:05.18z00daxwethrin: ?
00:05.24secretlondonnight z00dax
00:05.30wethrinFor your Gllug talk, should I use the abstract you gave me for last meeting?
00:05.48z00daxyea
00:05.48wethrinOr will you be talking on somethign different?
00:05.59wethrinOokay. Ta!
00:06.00z00daxi can talk about something else too
00:06.00wethrinnight
00:06.05z00daxwhat is everyone else talking about ?
00:06.13wethrinAsterisk, and clusters
00:06.24z00daxhumm
00:06.31z00daxwho is doing what clusters ?
00:06.37wethrinJohn Hearns
00:06.42wethrinSo his usual spiel
00:06.49z00daxok cool
00:07.00z00daxstick to same thing i think .
00:07.04wethrinOkay.
00:07.06Discordianwhat kind of clusters?
00:07.34halican i guess it's not vcs? :)
00:07.38wethrinCompute clusters, rather than renderfarms
00:07.55Discordianahhh grid stuff then?
00:08.03wethrinPretty much
00:10.30DiscordianI'm not very interested in asterisk
00:10.38DiscordianBut I shall be therw
00:12.45wethrinEh. The Asterisk talk was easy to get.
00:13.39Discordiani shall listen to all the talks
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00:30.03secretlondonI should do a talk on tux4kids at some point
00:30.18secretlondonlinux propaganda for under tens ;)
00:30.24Discordianhahah
00:30.27DiscordianCool
00:30.52secretlondontuxmath is hysterical - will you help tux save the day?
00:31.00secretlondonit's an arcade game!
00:31.18Discordianheh
00:31.25secretlondonsdl bling for little 'uns
00:32.16Discordiansounds cool
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00:42.45DiscordianHmm that's the second time someone has mentioned chard to me , tonight
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00:48.58secretlondonfareshares gets swiss chard too
00:49.59Discordiani doubt anywhere here does
00:52.57secretlondonyou can probably get food boxes delivered
00:53.09secretlondonbut they are pricey and you can get too much for one
00:53.15DiscordianI can
00:53.34Discordianhad a leaflet through the door
00:53.44DiscordianBut I'm unemployed
00:56.15secretlondonme too
01:00.13Discordians/if//
01:01.05secretlondonyum
01:01.49Discordianwith a pinch of salt
01:01.51Discordianyes
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01:07.59DiscordianRe
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01:12.34Discordianwb
01:16.48etorix2 of my 3 lintians are fix-ed in CVS, they say
01:16.58etorixcept i cant get from it
01:37.23DiscordianI should avoid here
01:37.56cpufreakbanana.
01:39.20DiscordianI'm gonna fall out with the people who think Linux == debian/ubuntu
01:39.58secretlondonno - but those of us who do debian/ubuntu will obviously talk about our stuff
01:40.21secretlondondoesn't mean we are claiming a monopoly on *nix
01:40.35Discordiani have no probs with that
01:41.12secretlondonanyway I thought traditionally linux == red hat
01:41.27Discordianhardly
01:41.59secretlondonwell it used to
01:42.13Discordianno it didnt
01:42.42DiscordianIt's always been diverse
01:43.25secretlondonI know
01:43.54Discordiansorry
01:44.34DiscordianI get ragged on by people who assume stuff
01:45.24DiscordianMy desktop has been linux since 1995
01:51.20DiscordianHmm
02:17.21z00daxfor business's and the enterprise Linux still is == RedHat
02:17.45z00daxthere was a time when Suse were peeping in, but Novel took good care of them
02:21.26DiscordianI get work cos I do Redhat
02:23.25Discordianand I'm a SysV4 person
02:25.30DiscordianI suspect I may dislike F9 a lot
02:34.41secretlondonrebooting
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02:41.44secretlondonrehi
02:41.50Discordianwb
02:46.36DiscordianI'll be there 15th
02:47.25secretlondoncool
02:48.36DiscordianI hated how my ex stopped me doing meets
02:54.22Discordianwhat worries me is people will hate me
02:54.35secretlondonwhy would they hate you?
02:56.15DiscordianI speak my mind
02:56.40secretlondonso do I
02:56.45Discordiancool
02:57.50DiscordianI'm polite
02:59.01DiscordianBut i'll say what I think at question time
04:05.33secretlondonbah looks like I only copied across the public bit of my key
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04:07.35secretlondonyay it built, although I can't sign it
04:17.39Discordianheh]
04:18.04secretlondonit crapped out with broken build dependencies
04:21.07secretlondonpbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: sdlpango-dev which is a virtual package.
04:21.32DiscordianOh
04:22.18secretlondonlibsdl-pango-dev
04:22.21secretlondonI suck
04:22.30Discordiancryptic
04:23.59secretlondondebian specialises in the use of _ and - to confuse and annoy
04:24.17DiscordianLol
04:24.51secretlondonthe differences between _ and - are *extremely* important ;)
04:25.10DiscordianI'm sure
04:25.54secretlondonwell I've got through that hurdle and its downloading stuff
04:27.16Discordianyay
04:30.04secretlondonoh wow it built
04:31.15Discordianresult
04:53.03secretlondonall 3 built, but are obv unsigned and not uploadable
04:58.41DiscordianOh
04:59.59secretlondonI don't think I have all my key, but I managed to encrypt a dummy text file with it
05:10.24secretlondonbit further - I can feed it a key with -k, but it still crapped out
05:10.52secretlondoncan't connect to `/home/secret/.gnome2/seahorse-659GPR/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory
05:11.10Discordianouch
05:16.47secretlondonbut it then did it
05:18.27Discordianheh
05:20.23secretlondonvodafone have decided to give me gprs rather hsdpa as they *knew* I was uploading stuff ;)
05:22.43DiscordianOh dear
05:27.19secretlondonmodems read hot too
05:27.19secretlondonred
05:27.26secretlondonwell not actually red, just hot
06:08.01Nafallohmm
08:11.35DiscordianI must sleep
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09:55.12morsinggbeard!
09:55.35gbeardgood morning!
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11:33.10zmey_g_morsing:!
11:52.27morsingzmey_g_!
11:53.12zmey_g:)
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12:43.28morsingElPenguin!
12:43.53ElPenguinmorsing!
12:44.25ElPenguinWhat have you been up to?
12:44.37morsingChanging head gasket
12:44.38morsing:)
12:44.49ElPenguinoh, right
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13:07.45morsingkjalil!
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14:57.44boudiccasmorsing!
14:57.48morsingboudiccas!
14:57.59boudiccasyes morsing ? :)))
14:58.08morsingHead's off!
14:58.45boudiccaswhy were you changing your head gasket? did it need changing? or is that part of your super plan for more speed in 60 feet
15:02.15morsingboudiccas: Two different cars
15:02.22morsingHead gasket gone
15:05.49boudiccasah right
15:06.14boudiccasits nice to have you talking again at the weekend, last weekend was a complete disaister it was so quiet
15:09.43zmey_gboudiccas: i can make NOISE. and some waves as well. just came back from swimming pool. the water is superb.
15:10.46boudiccaszmey_g, :)
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17:07.46morsingranner!
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17:12.49morsingcatalyst!
17:13.07catalystmorsing!
17:13.31rannermorsing!
17:13.52morsingranner: Liver?
17:15.09rannermorsing: Liver? I'm just on coffee and digestives today
17:15.49morsing:-/
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17:22.00morsinggbeard!
18:48.28morsingAllegrette!
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20:22.10secretlondonhi
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20:29.06TiTs-ArmandDOH
20:29.35secretlondontits?
20:32.22ArmandMy counter-strike clan.
20:32.34secretlondonah
20:32.51Armandwww.css-tits.com
20:33.24ArmandNope.. strangely enough.
20:33.27Armand:P
20:33.37secretlondonshocker
20:33.51ArmandAlthough, we do have 2 that are interested in joining. :)
20:34.18secretlondon"Terrorists Infiltrating Taiwan: Source"
20:34.28Armand^_^
20:34.29secretlondonthat's not even a decent acronym
20:34.37ArmandDidn't have to be..
20:34.45secretlondonyou blatantly chose tits first
20:34.57Armandbesides, I'm a fucking stoner.. it's not like I'm gonna spend days thinking about it. :P
20:35.18secretlondonit looks like you do spend ages thinking about tits
20:35.19ArmandAnd, you're right. :D
20:35.22Armand^_^
20:35.31ArmandErm.. MALE! Duh. :P
20:35.36secretlondonlinux only guild?
20:35.37Armandhaha
20:35.47Armando_ô
20:35.58secretlondonthere is a native linux client for counterstrike I think?
20:36.22ArmandI haven't seen one.. possibly due to lack of even looking for one. :P
20:36.38secretlondonfair enough
20:36.56ArmandNot sure what kind of Linux support there is for Steam games.
20:37.04Armand:(
20:38.44ArmandI did play the UT2003 for a bit, on my mates setup..
20:39.07Armandbut cba with setting up all the drivers & GL shit on mine.
20:39.49secretlondonbut would like something a bit more recent
20:39.50ArmandNot played that.
20:44.36secretlondonfreeciv ftw
20:44.39etorixut2k4 runs fine
20:45.46etorixlinux-installer is on the top level of the dvd
20:46.03secretlondon:)
20:46.23etorixok, u really need to run it from hd
20:46.38etorixcopying it anywhere is trivial
20:47.21etorixso anyway, secretlondon
20:47.38etorixive come to a total halt on cinepaint
20:47.40secretlondonwoot
20:47.44secretlondonoh :(
20:47.49secretlondonwhats up?
20:47.53etorixi got down to 3 lintians
20:48.11etorix2 are now fix-ed by kai-uwe, in CVS
20:48.18secretlondoncool
20:48.21secretlondonso 1 lintian then
20:48.25etorixim not building from-CVS
20:48.29secretlondonah
20:48.47etorixcvs is a nuther beast UNTIRELY
20:49.32etorixmy debian/dir NO WORKEE on cvs-edition
20:49.45secretlondonso those two lintians are really an upstream issue?
20:50.09etorixwell, he didnt copy to me his fixes
20:50.30etorixthey could be fixed in /rules, maybe
20:50.53etorixor with other fuckabouts
20:51.29etorixcinepaint-cvs is a monster
20:51.38etorixand we use svn
20:52.39secretlondonwill the debian police complain with 3 lintians?
20:52.50etorixtotally
20:53.05etorixone is manpage, trivial
20:53.17etorixone is rpath, non-trivial
20:53.28etorixone is soname, ignore it
20:54.04etorixrpath, non-trivial , has to be fix-ed
20:54.09secretlondonah
20:54.44etorixdunno how it passed before
20:57.32etorixi even has 2 offers for sponsoring
20:58.12etorixive kicked this upstairs
20:58.35secretlondonupstairs = hollywood?
20:58.49etorixand germany
20:58.53secretlondonk
20:59.08secretlondonwhere is your current wip?
20:59.27etorixcinepaint.org NEWS
21:01.03secretlondonk
21:01.23secretlondoni've just been given some updated tuxpaint packaging which i'm downloading
21:20.54etorixhttp://sidux.net/etorix/
21:21.04etorixhttp://sidux.net/etorix/README
21:31.50secretlondonUbuntu studio no longer has cinepaint of course cos it gets it from Debian
21:32.24secretlondonetorix: can I build your experimental debs on *buntu and stick in my personal archive?
21:32.59etorixgive em a go
21:33.07etorixyer totally welcome
21:33.15secretlondonty
21:33.26etorixthey is public
21:33.35etorixand OSS
21:33.51etorixafaik, 100%
21:34.57secretlondoni remember you said`early "not for distribution" as they were very alpha
21:35.52etorixv aplha
21:36.10etorixthese are prolly not going to explode yer box
21:36.18secretlondonindeed
21:37.00etorixif yer on sid, they work good
21:38.21etorixim having fun on berlios.de today
21:38.45etorixits suddenly wanting passes n such
21:39.48secretlondon:(
21:39.56etorixim making .ssh/id_dsa.pub but it wants a pass to upload
21:40.11etorixto upload my pass, i need a pass
21:40.18etorixhang on
21:40.30secretlondonI have a response back to my complaint to vodafone. However they want to know software versions, OS etc. I dunno whether to pretend I'm using windows
21:41.00etorixvodafone, for a skype kinda thingie?
21:41.16secretlondonno - its "mobile broadband" hsdpa from a usb modem
21:41.29secretlondonlike 3G+
21:41.42etorixswear blind yer on XP
21:41.55secretlondonyeah - I have an xp partition somewhere
21:42.12etorixmaybe even try it on xp
21:42.26secretlondonotherwise any probs will be caused by my unsupported operating system, even if their core routers were on fire
21:42.40etorixesp when yer on live with support
21:42.46secretlondonI've tried it on xp before so I know its them
21:43.10etorixit just shuts them the fuck up
21:43.37secretlondonyeah
21:43.43etorixand they feel safe testing from their end
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22:46.23DiscordianSounds nice
22:46.43wethrinHm, jazz. My CD ran out some time ago. I should do something about it
22:47.03haliyes, i can recommend some Dave Brubeck
22:47.17halijust listend to Dave Brubeck - Take five
22:47.20haliexcellent song
22:47.33haliespecially this live recording from Mexico in 1960-something
22:47.37wethrinI have a record somewhere.....
22:47.41haliJoe Morello on the drums
22:47.43secretlondonI have several versions of that including the reggae one and the JAMs subversion of it ;)
22:47.44wethrinDammit. Now you make me want to listen to him
22:48.29halihm, JAM covering Dave Brubeck, that must be borderline rape? :)
22:49.39secretlondonits a sample - don't take five (take what you want)
22:49.44wethrinAah. Time Out album. Contains neat stuff
22:49.46secretlondonJAMs = the KLF
22:49.48wethrinBlue Rondo++
22:50.03DiscordianKLF++
22:50.04halitime out is a good album
22:50.12hali--KLF
22:50.28wethrinYeah. I've also got For Iola
22:52.19halinext up, Stacey Kent - Breakfast on the Morning Tram
22:52.38halii think most people could call that record "elevator music"
22:53.13secretlondoneew
22:54.22haliit's quite sothing
22:54.33halihm, only the first song is really elevator music
22:56.03halithe second song is Landslide by Fleetwood Mac
22:56.05haligreat song
22:56.10secretlondonsounds as awful as smooth jazz - jazz with anything radical and interesting removed
22:56.32haliwell, it's not very radical
22:58.43wethrinBELGIAN FREEFORM JAZZ
22:59.06halithey have quite nice jazz jamming sessions at bar music hall in shoreditch
22:59.29heedgreetings
22:59.45wethrinahoy
23:02.23haliRepo man on film4 in 20 mins
23:03.54halii wish i had that much determination
23:04.03halitv's are big time wasters really
23:04.52heedRepo Man.....is that the one where they find summat  in the boot?
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23:52.41secretlondonit's accepted it, now to see if it builds..

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