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02:10.15ArmandThat looked like fun!!
02:10.24ArmandWhy wasn't I invited?? >_<
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03:57.07Discordianre
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08:31.58Discordiangood morning
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08:34.12halimorning
08:39.48bilarhmorning
08:40.11Discordianmorning
08:42.57Discordianheh
08:43.27haliwell, fucking good morning to you then :-)
08:43.36bilarhthank you, much better :D
08:44.19bilarhwhy do my users keep filling up their home directories to 100% so that they can't log in to kde anymore?
08:44.30bilarh"dear deirdre, ..."
08:44.44haliadd more space
08:45.16haliwe've given up on the "please clean up"
08:45.18bilarhyou would have thought 400gigs was good enough for 10 users :(
08:45.36hali40gb per user is a bit execessive perhaps yes
08:45.44halii think we average on about 5-7 or something like that
08:46.02bilarhhave you ever tried using quotas?
08:46.09halinot on ext3 no
08:46.34haliwhen i joined the company the only fileserver had about 200gb, we probably have 2tb used now
08:46.37halifcking abusers
08:46.48bilarhas long as it's mainly porn i don't mind
08:46.55haliit's mainly porn
08:47.00bilarhit's when they put loads of work stuff up i get pissed off
08:47.06bilarhah, no need to worry then
08:47.18haliwe use solaris with one zfs file system per user for one team
08:47.23bilarhi'll come over with a portable harddrive and syphon all of it off
08:47.33haliand a quota on their file system
08:47.34bilarhcool, possibly :)
08:47.39haliyes
08:47.41DiscordianI need to get a job , I'm so bored
08:47.43haliit's pretty handy
08:48.00bilarhdiscordian: there might be one going here soon when they fire my sorry ass
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08:48.03haliDiscordian: whats the market like now after xmas?
08:48.14Discordianvery very quiet
08:48.16bilarhdiscordian: i don't know what the donkey's done, but he's not very popular at the moment
08:48.22bilarhyou a contractor?
08:48.40DiscordianI don't expect it to get get better before April
08:48.42bilarhwould you consider doing junior windows stuff for about six months?
08:48.44DiscordianEither/or
08:49.21DiscordianI'm not very windows knowledgeable
08:49.38bilarhah
08:50.11DiscordianBut I guess if it's junior possibly
08:51.39bilarhi think there might be one going here soon, if i find out more i'll let you know
08:51.57DiscordianThank you
08:55.13DiscordianI think I've concluded I have totally lost my mobile :-(
09:10.48Ch0HagThat's less irritating than partially losing your mobile.
09:11.46DiscordianAnnopying though as I'm unemployed and job hunting
09:12.46Ch0HagI know the feeling.
09:13.00Ch0HagMy girlfriend has mine, so I effectively don't have one.
09:13.04Ch0HagLuckily I never go out though.
09:14.18bilarhch0hag: what's a mobile got to do with going out?
09:14.45DiscordianBeing available to answer $recruiters calls I imagine
09:15.03Ch0HagI have an internet phone which people can contct me on here. A mobile would be needed if people were to contact me when I'm not here.
09:15.10Ch0HagExcept I'm never not here, so that's not a problem.
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09:25.27morsing'morning
09:43.59wethrinmorning
09:44.07morsing:)
09:44.09morsingwethrin!
09:44.11morsingYou're up!
09:44.13morsing:D
09:45.20wethrinHeyyyyyyyy
09:45.23morsing!
09:45.40morsingHSBC
09:45.48wethrinHSBC can fuck right off
09:45.57wethrinI'm sure I've already said that somewhere
09:51.24wethrinGrrrrrrrr. Gllug list still seems to be down
09:58.13Ch0HagOoh I like that - "PHP is training wheels without the bike".
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10:03.01bilarhch0hag: :D
10:03.16morsingetorix!
10:43.38halihm, power outage around old street?
10:43.43haliwe had a 30 sec dropout
10:50.46Nafallohali: ooh. so you're that close to me, are you? ;-)
10:52.02haliyes, i can see your dirty feet from here
10:52.11Nafallohaha. svensk ocksa :-P
10:52.34halipossily at one point yes
10:52.39Nafallohehe
10:52.40haliim in paul street, between old street and liverpool street
10:52.57NafalloI'm at Corbet Place, close to Nandos :-)
10:53.10haliah, nice
10:53.20halidid you have the power dip then?
10:54.26Nafalloyea, I've already figured him out :-)
10:54.34Nafallonope. our power is stable.
10:54.59Nafallohttp://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=from:+E1+6NN+to:+Paul+St,+London+EC2A,+United+Kingdom&sll=51.525513,-0.08214&sspn=0.018557,0.057335&ie=UTF8&ll=51.52271,-0.079295&spn=0.009279,0.028667&z=16
10:56.25Nafalloway much closer from THM though ;-)
10:56.25halinot far
10:56.38Nafallo65 Clifton Street ;-)
10:56.40haliyou must be close to the chill bar
10:56.55kinkohali, must be close to telstra
10:57.19haliyes
10:57.36haliim further down, by the pub the fox
10:58.47Nafallokinko: lucky you seems to have had a quiet night :-P
11:04.14bilarhvad fasiken... svensk invasion :D
11:04.24morsingBeer
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11:05.02morsingmikejw!
11:05.06mikejwhi morsing :)
11:05.28mikejwhow's tricks?
11:07.06morsingShe's great thanks :D
11:07.43mikejw:D
11:08.12mikejwhow's morsing?
11:08.18morsingI'm great too ;)
11:08.22morsingWooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
11:08.23morsing:D
11:08.25mikejwkewel
11:08.26morsingAnd you?
11:08.29morsingkewel?
11:08.32morsingibot kewel?
11:08.33morsingibot kewel
11:08.44mikejwyeah ok thanks. hanging tough :P
11:09.00mikejwsorry hangin'
11:09.29morsing:)
11:13.17mikejwis ibot running?
11:13.34morsingibot
11:13.37morsingibot ibotr
11:13.39morsingibot ibot
11:13.40ibotibot is, like, a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported.
11:13.45morsingibot kewel
11:13.52morsingibot sucks
11:13.52ibotonly if you ask nicely and pay well.
11:13.57morsing!
11:14.21mikejwibot awesome
11:14.22iboti heard awesome is me
11:14.36mikejwibot meme
11:14.36ibotrumour has it, meme is an information pattern, held in an individual's memory, which is capable of being copied to another individual's memory.
11:14.50Nafallobilarh, hali: need to have a Swedish pub meeting some evening :-)
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11:20.09morsinghuw-l!
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11:26.15wethrinhi mro
11:26.17wethrinsigh
11:26.20wethrinhi morsing
11:26.28morsingwethrin!
11:32.07bilarhibot die
11:32.08ibotACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
11:32.13bilarh:D
11:32.20morsingxteddy: kill bilarh
11:32.21xteddy:D
11:32.30bilarhxteddy: hug morsing
11:32.33xteddy:)
11:32.37morsingYay! :)
11:33.16bilarhi know this will sound, well, unmanly, BUT
11:33.24bilarhi saw the film "pride and prejudice" in the weekend
11:33.30morsingYikes...
11:33.31bilarhand it was absolutely brilliant :D
11:33.51morsingAs good as Deathproof?
11:33.56bilarhnow i need to start reading jane austin on the train
11:34.10bilarhbut i might have to wrap it in an FHM Highstreet Honeys cover first, i think
11:34.19bilarhi haven't seen deathproof yet, so i don't know
11:34.45bilarhs/austin/austen/
11:34.47morsing:)
11:57.34Ch0HagGah!
11:57.37Ch0Hagapt-get install X
11:57.50Ch0HagError: Package Y depends on Z, not installing unrelated X.
12:02.59Nafalloxteddy: kiss kinko
12:03.00xteddy:D
12:03.40Nafallohehe. happy bot ;-)
12:04.21antiphasexteddy, my knob isn't going to suck itself
12:04.22xteddy:D
12:04.22NafalloCh0Hag: probably related somewhere then :-)
12:04.28Nafallolol
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12:13.51Ch0HagDammit. Failed at a technical interview because of personality problems.
12:14.01Ch0HagHe's probably just disgruntled because I showed up his shoddy perl.
12:14.49wethrinBoh :(
12:14.51Ch0HagThat's completely the wrong way around. I'm supposed to conflict with HR drones, not geeks.
12:15.17Ch0HagNow I have the dilemma of do I want to move this forward on the highly unlikely chance that the agent swings them around.
12:15.29wethrinNo
12:15.38wethrinYou probably don't want to work for them, if they have that attitude
12:15.53Ch0HagProbably not, but I really need a steady income.
12:16.08Ch0HagEven if I go in there immediately looking for a way out.
12:16.18Ch0HagI'll have a wife to support in 6 weeks.
12:16.33antiphaseWhen does she arrive from Russia?
12:16.47Ch0HagLast September.
12:16.53bilarhantiphase: depends on parcel force, stuck in customs at the moment :(
12:17.49Ch0Hagwethrin: The biggest probelm I have with the attitude is that it was an interview to determine technical competency, at which I excelled according to the interviewer.
12:18.02bilarhch0hag: what happened?
12:18.21Ch0HagI don't know. I thought everything was fine until I phoned the agent just new.
12:18.49antiphaseThey probably just didn't like you. There's no law saying you have to get the job if you satisfy the criteria
12:18.59Ch0HagI know.
12:19.22antiphaseNo-one likes a smart-arse either :P
12:19.42bilarhantiphase: unless you're a woman in which case there is ;-)
12:19.50bilarhor of an ethnic minority
12:19.53Ch0HagYeah but I never let people know about that until it's too late.
12:20.06Ch0HagMaybe it slipped out.
12:20.15bilarhch0hag: hehe, bad choice of words :D
12:20.20antiphaseAre you secretly a black disabled lesbian?
12:20.28Ch0HagUnfortunately not.
12:20.37Ch0HagIm straight, white, male and very nearly married.
12:20.41Ch0HagThe odds are stacked against me.
12:20.51bilarhcan you fake a limp? :)
12:21.36Ch0HagHeh.
12:22.23wethrinHmm. Sounds like you shouldn't really want to work at that place
12:22.31wethrin"Oh no, he's competent. Don't like that...."
12:22.53Ch0HagYeah, probably.
12:23.00Ch0HagMeans going through all the crap again.
12:23.05wethrinTrue
12:23.07Ch0HagI'm just being lazy I suppose.
12:23.48wethrinWell, it'd be £63. I could get it for a tenner less if I get it shipped over from the US
12:23.51Discordiandepends what it's about and how good it is
12:23.51morsingwethrin: It's £60
12:23.59wethrinIt's a Standard Tome(TM)
12:24.05wethrinHandy reference
12:24.15DiscordianIT one?
12:24.26wethrinNah. Handbook of Thin Film Technologies
12:24.31Discordianahh
12:24.34morsingwethrin: About measuring?
12:25.23wethrinNo. Well. About more than anyone would ever want to know
12:25.59morsingwethrin: £60?
12:26.06wethrin£62.75
12:26.09morsing:(
12:26.14morsingI didn't win then?
12:26.24wethrinNo.
12:26.31wethrinamazon++ # making ordering books easy
12:26.44Ch0HagDoing this makes me feel dirty.
12:27.46wethrinHey, you might end up with something
12:27.54wethrinAlso keep an eye out on the Gllug list, and all that
12:28.00DiscordianI seem to have had emails about 3 jobs while I was out
12:28.01wethrinI think there's also a lug.org.uk jobs list
12:28.15morsingwethrin: It's down!
12:28.31DiscordianYes the lists are down or seem to be
12:28.32Ch0HagI've been hugely successful these past 4 months.
12:28.36popeythere is wethrin
12:28.41morsingpopey!
12:28.53popeyhttps://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs
12:28.55popey:)
12:28.56Ch0HagCapital punishment for fake listings would be nice.
12:29.01Ch0HagYeah I'm on that.
12:29.05Ch0HagIt seems dead.
12:29.10popeyit's not dead
12:31.51wethrinhi popey
12:31.57popeywhat-ho
12:32.04wethrinmorsing: The jobs list isn't
12:32.16wethrinThe Gllug lists may be
12:32.24popey:(
12:32.51wethrinHm. I prodded Jason a couple of days ago to say that http://lists.gllug.org.uk was down. now it seems the rest of the lists are
12:33.36morsing:)
12:33.46morsingWhat did you prod him with?
12:34.35wethrinAn email
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12:34.55morsingElPenguin!
12:35.14morsingwethrin: If he's passed out on the floor that won't do much
12:39.46wethrinerr. Yes...
12:55.50ElPenguinhi morsing
12:59.49Ch0HagThe thing is, Zune means penis in  french-speaking parts of the world. How is this different to say, Apple using fruit in an advert, or Sony using rapists?
13:00.32morsingTrappists?
13:04.31mikejwrap artists?
13:12.12antiphaseHa ha
13:12.54Discordianpiss artists?
13:14.45mikejw:P
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13:29.59morsingdick_turpin!
13:30.17dick_turpinmorsing: How the devil are you :-)
13:32.01morsingGREAT :D
14:30.10wethrinSupport the fine arts. Shoot a rapper.
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14:55.55boudiccashere's dick_turpin
14:56.33morsingboudiccas!
14:58.13dick_turpinboudiccas: :-P
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14:59.48heedgreetings
15:00.19morsingheed!
15:00.54heedany one a good place to buy motheroard/processor bundles?
15:01.07heedsorry, recommend
15:01.31wethrinaria, dabs, mumble other suppliers
15:01.51heedanywhere down in london
15:02.10wethrinAmble down Tottenham Court Road
15:17.00kjalilheed: try RL systems
15:17.09kjalilheed: but they are in watford
15:17.38haliyoyo tech just off tottenham court road
15:17.46halireserve on their website and pick up in store, web prices, handy
15:17.53kjalilheed: sorry, http://www.rlsupplies.co.uk/
15:18.00heedahh, thats the one ive been trying to remember
15:18.03heedthanks
15:18.17kjalilheed: they tend to be cheap
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15:58.47secretlondonhi
16:09.42morsingsecretlondon!
16:09.51secretlondonmorsing!
16:09.52morsingranner!
16:10.08rannermorsing!
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16:28.09morsingkjalil_!
16:50.16morsingkjalil!
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17:18.47Ch0HagAccording to Some Random Guy, if you can put your fingers inside the consumer unit your house is unsafe.
17:19.18Ch0HagAccording to me, if you put your fingers inside the consumer unit you're an idiot.
17:19.45Discordiannot merely an idiot but a dead one
17:20.02Ch0HagQuite. Deservedly so.
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17:24.28secretlondonwell he still has power, anway
17:24.30morsingCope_!
17:24.30morsinghali_!
17:24.51secretlondonmorsing: not dead?
17:26.43morsing?
17:26.44morsingsecretlondon!
17:27.18secretlondonmorsing: you were going to check to see if you could put your fingers inside a consumer unit
17:27.34morsingohhh!!!
17:27.44morsingI forgot
17:27.47secretlondonah
17:27.49morsingGot sidetracked
17:28.02morsingAlso, the hotel staff wouldn't let me near it probably
17:30.58secretlondontrue
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17:31.57morsingwethrin: Is it up?
17:34.19morsinghttp://www.cooks.com/rec/view/0,181,157161-232206,00.html
17:35.17wethrinThat's an awfully personal question!
17:36.32secretlondonmorsing: it's a recipe. and?
17:38.41secretlondonmorsing: have you tried pinging it?
17:39.15morsingwethrin: :)
17:39.22morsingwethrin: Maybe Martin can help you?
17:39.36morsingsecretlondon: The recipe?
17:39.59secretlondonmorsing: no pinging whatever wethrin has that may or may not be up!
17:40.11morsing:D
17:42.44wethrinMaaaybe
17:43.21morsingwethrin:
17:43.23morsingAargg1!
17:43.32morsingblatrgrh
17:44.03secretlondonooh!
17:44.19secretlondon*micro*! maybe he needs to respond to his spam
17:45.09wethrinOI!
17:45.26morsing:)
17:54.22halii think someone broke the interwebs
17:54.41Discordianheh
17:55.09secretlondononly for you
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21:50.20morsingzmey_g!
21:50.43zmey_gmorsing:! how doing
21:51.13morsingGreat :)
21:51.15morsingYou?
21:51.28zmey_gnot bad
21:52.08zmey_ggoing for an interview tomorrow
21:53.06morsingMI5?
21:53.45zmey_gmi5 offed me a job already
21:53.52zmey_gno
21:54.13zmey_groehampton uni
21:55.06morsingEssex?
21:55.23zmey_glondon
21:55.50zmey_gnear to Wimbledon
21:57.45zmey_gmorsing: do you know where Cillian gone?
21:58.02morsingzmey_g: He's busy
21:58.04morsing:(
21:58.12morsingI spoke to him a couple of days ago
21:58.24zmey_gwith what
21:58.54morsingWork I suppose
21:59.21zmey_gif you see him say i asked about him
21:59.37morsingWill do :)
21:59.44zmey_gthx :)
22:01.20zmey_gmorsing: will you come on next gllug?
22:01.43morsingI will :)  Well, not the next but the 15th
22:02.09zmey_goh good
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23:29.28FacundoHi people
23:31.25zmey_ghi
23:34.10Facundozmey_g: Which time is in the UK now?
23:34.20zmey_g23.34
23:34.34zmey_gwhere are you?
23:34.52FacundoIm from Argentina
23:35.17zmey_gwhat time is it?
23:35.27Facundo21:36
23:35.47Facundoall of you are from London?
23:35.52zmey_gi thought the difference would be more than that
23:36.04Facundozmey_g: yes! me too
23:36.27zmey_gi thought at least 5 hours
23:37.57Facundozmey_g: well in a month we must change one hour.. so will be 3 hours of difference
23:38.39Facundohere we play with time :S
23:38.43zmey_gha ha
23:38.52zmey_gwe might as well
23:39.32zmey_gi think the world is shrinking
23:39.45Facundoha ha ha
23:40.39zmey_gmorsing: what time is it?
23:41.26FacundoLinux is popular in the UK?
23:41.58zmey_gyes. very popular
23:42.04zmey_gin my flat
23:42.08secretlondonwe go foward 1 hour in a month too
23:42.29catalystwe need to take the clocks forward in order to grow the brand
23:42.37zmey_gsecretlondon: is linux popular in the uk?
23:42.47secretlondonwe are on the same time as utc in the northern hemisphere winter, and utc +1 in the summer
23:42.58secretlondonzmeg_g more than elsewhere? no idea
23:43.43secretlondonI expect linux is bigger in the developing world as people have less money
23:43.47secretlondonIt's supposed to be popular in Brazil
23:43.51zmey_gi just received linux mag today. very nice
23:43.53secretlondonbut then warez
23:44.19Facundoyes in Brazil many pople use it
23:44.33etorixwarez is popular in the UK
23:44.52etorix[so i hear]
23:45.25etorixlinux aint popular down my local pub
23:45.46zmey_gso, will we see linux expo this summer ?
23:46.28secretlondonprobably not I expect
23:46.31Facundowhich linux distribution u use?
23:46.34secretlondonsomeone said the website was down
23:46.37secretlondonI use Ubuntu
23:47.24secretlondonCanonical is based in the UK (well actually the Isle of Man for tax reasons)
23:49.00zmey_gi look at linux event calendar. nothing in the uk till autumn
23:49.34Facundoyou are in winter now?
23:50.01zmey_gwell UKUUG March-april
23:50.37zmey_gyes
23:50.47zmey_gwinter time still
23:51.31secretlondonthe southern hemisphere is in autumn, we are (probably) in spring
23:53.05zmey_gsecretlondon: what program?
23:53.18secretlondonzmeg_g I'm involved in tuxpaint
23:53.24zmey_gwow
23:53.38zmey_gi love this program
23:53.44secretlondoncool :)
23:54.04secretlondon0.9.19 released on the 1st March!
23:54.13zmey_gnice
23:54.44zmey_gi have similar program for mac os- kidpix
23:55.02zmey_gbut tuxpaint cooler
23:55.09secretlondonyeah we try and be an open source competition
23:55.21secretlondonzmeg_g you have kids?
23:55.27zmey_gyes
23:55.37zmey_gson 12 y
23:56.03zmey_gyou?
23:56.07secretlondonwe have tuxmath too which is an arcade game teaching mental arithmetic
23:56.09secretlondonnone
23:56.43secretlondoneven the packagers have kids
23:57.00zmey_g:))
23:57.26secretlondoni should start working on mindless shoot-em-up games ;)
23:57.33zmey_gsure it wasn't the goal to join the project
23:57.33secretlondonbetter supply of talent
23:57.46zmey_g:)
23:58.18secretlondonbut the people you work with have social skills - they must have to end up married with kids
23:59.24Facundosecretlondon: you live from this proyect or it'sa hobby?
23:59.49secretlondonhobby

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