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| 00:51.20 | Discordian | re |
| 00:51.34 | secretlondon | hi |
| 00:52.44 | Discordian | still packaging? |
| 00:53.32 | secretlondon | no - packages done (and redone today!), i've also made my 1st ever cvs commit today |
| 00:53.44 | Discordian | excellent |
| 00:53.47 | secretlondon | woke up at 3pm so not tired yet |
| 00:53.54 | Discordian | heh |
| 01:09.57 | secretlondon | I've just updated the TODO lst and commited ;) |
| 01:10.01 | secretlondon | +t |
| 01:10.08 | Discordian | heh |
| 01:10.16 | secretlondon | I should actually make food though |
| 01:10.29 | Discordian | way too late here for that |
| 01:10.55 | secretlondon | I've only had muesli and some chocolate |
| 01:11.21 | Discordian | i had toast with cheese for brekkie |
| 01:11.36 | Discordian | and a cheeseburger for lunch with fries |
| 01:11.37 | secretlondon | I have cheese but no bread |
| 01:11.50 | secretlondon | maybe pasta & cheese |
| 01:12.25 | Discordian | Mmm might do that for lunch tomorrow |
| 01:16.58 | Discordian | I have some blue stilton |
| 01:18.06 | Discordian | I wish it was Blue castello though |
| 01:25.26 | secretlondon | i've just got supermarket cheddar which was on buy 1 get one free |
| 01:26.23 | Discordian | I've some iceland cheddar it's okay |
| 01:26.48 | secretlondon | this is pilgrims choice or something |
| 01:27.34 | Discordian | i like blue cheese but that's not good for welsh rarebit |
| 01:29.23 | secretlondon | I like blue cheese too :) |
| 01:30.31 | Discordian | Blue castello is a soft blue cheese |
| 01:30.45 | Discordian | But alas no longer sold by Sainsburys |
| 01:40.58 | secretlondon | I don't have a sainsbury's near here anyway |
| 01:41.25 | secretlondon | its turned into pasta, cheese and tofu with a bit of hoisin sauce |
| 01:41.31 | Discordian | That and iceland are all there are here |
| 01:41.43 | Discordian | Sounds nice |
| 01:42.00 | secretlondon | as I froze some tofu (this is supposed to make it more interesting) and unfroze it and it needed cooking |
| 01:42.21 | Discordian | heh |
| 01:42.23 | secretlondon | it is a nicer texture |
| 01:42.30 | Discordian | Not sure about tofu |
| 01:42.36 | secretlondon | more grainy |
| 01:43.54 | Discordian | Hmmm |
| 01:48.52 | Discordian | Do you eat quorn? |
| 01:50.37 | secretlondon | no |
| 01:51.07 | secretlondon | quorn is cheese or something? |
| 01:51.25 | secretlondon | I buy tofu from the food co-op at £1/packet |
| 01:53.20 | Discordian | quorn is micoprotein, fungus related |
| 01:58.08 | secretlondon | ah it has egg in it, thats why vegan places don't sell it |
| 01:58.34 | Discordian | That makes sense |
| 02:03.08 | secretlondon | also possibly because its artificial as well |
| 02:07.31 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 02:27.18 | secretlondon | one of the developer's has a year old baby - he has learn how to turn computers off with the power button ;) |
| 02:29.08 | secretlondon | when his fathers back is turned! |
| 02:33.38 | Discordian | Lol |
| 02:34.10 | Discordian | annoying |
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| 03:16.04 | secretlondon | hi mozz_ |
| 03:16.14 | mozz_ | hello |
| 03:24.08 | mozz_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:29.32 | mozz_ | trying to work this xchat - am i being recieved.....? |
| 03:29.42 | secretlondon | yes |
| 03:29.49 | mozz_ | joy |
| 03:30.12 | mozz_ | well that was not hard |
| 03:36.23 | Discordian | yo |
| 03:38.40 | secretlondon | I've just submitted a 'main inclusion request', a document requesting that a certain package be promoted from community supported to canonical supported |
| 03:38.50 | secretlondon | I've been working on it since late feb |
| 03:39.21 | mozz_ | which package? |
| 03:40.11 | secretlondon | sdlpango, its a library that improves text support on programs (often games) that use sdl |
| 03:40.34 | secretlondon | a childrens game needs it if that game is to stay in edubuntu |
| 03:47.10 | starshine | well I hope it goes in :) |
| 03:47.28 | secretlondon | thanks :) |
| 03:48.27 | starshine | mark shuttleworth's supposed to visit my area this month :) |
| 03:48.59 | Discordian | from space ? |
| 03:49.31 | starshine | huh, he only bought a ride on the shuttle once |
| 03:50.03 | starshine | I sorta wish I could do that, except... |
| 03:50.27 | starshine | ...what I'd much rather is, that we don't have to be zillionaires to buy thatvariety of plane ticket. |
| 03:50.40 | Discordian | I'm not keen on planes |
| 03:50.46 | starshine | I bet you take the middle aisle in 767s too hmm? |
| 03:51.08 | Discordian | by preference yes |
| 03:51.26 | starshine | fair enough |
| 03:51.28 | mozz_ | i dont think it was a shuttle - atop a russian ICBM i think |
| 03:51.34 | starshine | do you go hiking or anything? |
| 03:51.40 | starshine | well close enough |
| 03:51.47 | Discordian | hiking? |
| 03:51.52 | starshine | there's fairly few sorts of vehicles that get to go :) |
| 03:51.56 | Discordian | err what? |
| 03:52.08 | starshine | sorry two conversations :> |
| 03:52.20 | starshine | hiking = down to earth |
| 03:52.37 | Discordian | i walk when I can |
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| 08:49.35 | morsing | gbeard! |
| 08:51.30 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 09:26.57 | bilarh | hey you know these bank scams "click here to update your detail" kind of thingies |
| 09:27.08 | bilarh | if someone was to fall for one of them, who'd actually be held responsible? |
| 09:27.17 | bilarh | would the customer lose the money, or would it be the bank that would have to pay in the end? |
| 09:28.17 | wethrin | Depends how soon the customer realises and tells the bank |
| 09:44.38 | hali | not sure about account theft, but at least with cards the bank has to prove that you actually did the transaction |
| 09:45.07 | morsing | hali: What have you done? |
| 09:45.10 | hali | but in all honesty, if people fall for that scam they are pretty much suckers |
| 09:45.36 | bilarh | true, but i was just thinking of the legalities |
| 09:45.50 | bilarh | i wonder how many people *actually* fall for it though |
| 09:46.11 | bilarh | perhaps it's not too many, so the banks would possibly just stump up anyway regardless of legalities to avoid bad press |
| 09:46.44 | hali | as the scammers keep sending the mails they must get some response |
| 09:47.01 | bilarh | yeah, but it's cheap to send an email |
| 09:47.28 | bilarh | so even if they get like one hit a day, amounting to say 2000 pounds or whatever people have in their accounts nowadays, it might still not add up to taht much overall |
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| 09:57.28 | morsing | mozz_ |
| 09:57.29 | morsing | ! |
| 09:58.06 | mozz_ | yes |
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| 10:09.19 | morsing | poeloq! |
| 10:10.09 | poeloq | morsing! |
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| 11:17.15 | morsing | ElPenguin! |
| 11:17.44 | popey | MOO! |
| 11:19.17 | ElPenguin | morning morsing |
| 13:23.06 | wethrin | oi |
| 13:23.07 | morsing | NO GRUMBLING HERE! |
| 13:23.21 | morsing | wethrin: Is it up? |
| 13:24.36 | wethrin | No! |
| 13:24.46 | wethrin | And yuo know this! |
| 13:27.37 | morsing | :( |
| 13:27.42 | morsing | You're upset again... |
| 13:28.39 | wethrin | no, just a wee bit stressed generally |
| 13:32.12 | morsing | :-/ |
| 14:05.47 | bilarh | man i'm a bit bored today |
| 14:06.10 | antiphase | That's because the UK Flippin Shoddy Network has stolen our internets |
| 14:06.13 | morsing | So am I |
| 14:07.23 | morsing | wethrin: Did you get it up? |
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| 14:20.46 | morsing | LeedsHK! |
| 14:25.05 | LeedsHK | yes! |
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| 15:25.51 | morsing | ranner! |
| 15:26.21 | ranner | morsing! |
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| 15:54.52 | morsing | ranner! |
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| 16:34.42 | morsing | ranner81! |
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| 17:35.03 | morsing | zmey_g! |
| 17:35.07 | zmey_g | morsing! |
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| 17:47.10 | morsing | secretlondon! |
| 17:47.12 | morsing | http://www.quiznos.com/menu/soups.aspx |
| 17:47.26 | secretlondon | morsing! |
| 17:50.41 | zmey_g | morsing: very tasty website |
| 17:53.18 | morsing | zmey_g: :) |
| 17:53.26 | morsing | zmey_g: Sally's having one right now |
| 17:54.05 | zmey_g | morsing: usa/canada? where is the uk? |
| 17:54.42 | morsing | The UK is left of Denmark |
| 17:54.45 | morsing | Texas |
| 17:57.07 | morsing | zmey_g: Why's the list down? |
| 17:57.53 | zmey_g | what list? |
| 17:57.58 | morsing | ? |
| 17:58.39 | zmey_g | what list is down? |
| 17:59.54 | zmey_g | i just after the interview, so my brain is down. |
| 18:00.02 | morsing | zmey_g: It's been down for days |
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| 18:02.26 | Facundo | hi |
| 18:02.51 | morsing | Facundo! |
| 18:07.11 | secretlondon | we need better sysadmins.. |
| 18:07.24 | morsing | Who doesn't |
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| 18:28.14 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 18:31.57 | ablack | hi morsing |
| 18:32.23 | morsing | Hi Andrew :) |
| 18:32.35 | morsing | You didn't go to FOSDEM! |
| 18:43.37 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 18:43.57 | z00dax | hey morsing |
| 18:55.27 | secretlondon | z00dax! |
| 18:55.49 | z00dax | secretlondon: ! |
| 19:13.15 | hali | thats my next move too |
| 19:14.59 | Ch0Hag | OK, Why does removing openoffice make apt want to remove pan and all my dictionaries? |
| 19:15.01 | z00dax | i still need to get from Kentish Town to London Bridge, then wait for a train there, then 40 min on that, get to the station, get car drive home |
| 19:15.03 | Ch0Hag | Along what tortuous route can 'ispell' depend on openoffice and not the other way around? |
| 19:16.27 | morsing | Prawn Risotto |
| 19:16.28 | Ch0Hag | Ah here it is: Note, selecting dictionaries-common for regex ‘openoffice.org-updatedicts’ |
| 19:16.38 | z00dax | right, off home now |
| 19:16.55 | Ch0Hag | Yes. I can see haw the regex /openoffice.org-updatedicts/ matches 'dictionaries-common'. Apt, PCRE has nothing on you. |
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| 19:28.46 | morsing | Facundo! |
| 19:29.04 | Facundo | morsing: hi |
| 19:29.47 | Facundo | how are u? |
| 19:30.49 | morsing | Great :) You? |
| 19:31.59 | Facundo | morsing: fine ... studing :S |
| 19:32.16 | morsing | Facundo: What did you have for tea? |
| 19:33.28 | Facundo | morsing: mate and cookies |
| 19:33.39 | morsing | Mate? |
| 19:33.45 | Facundo | "mate" is very common in Argentine |
| 19:34.01 | morsing | Like vegimite? |
| 19:34.06 | Facundo | its like a tea... but the process is different |
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| 19:34.34 | morsing | But... That's very light for a meal. Cookies... |
| 19:34.40 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 19:34.47 | catalyst | morsing \o/ |
| 19:34.48 | morsing | catalyst: What did you have for tea? |
| 19:34.58 | Facundo | http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate |
| 19:35.03 | catalyst | I've apparently not eaten |
| 19:35.12 | morsing | catalyst: :( |
| 19:35.16 | morsing | Facundo: Cool :) |
| 19:35.31 | Facundo | morsing: here the tea its a ligh meal |
| 19:35.48 | morsing | Facundo: Hmm... unusual |
| 19:37.24 | Facundo | morsing: What did you have for tea? |
| 19:37.41 | secretlondon | facundo: that's really common in Argentina? |
| 19:37.43 | morsing | Facundo: Prawn risotto and a pint |
| 19:38.01 | Facundo | secretlondon: yes |
| 19:38.23 | Facundo | secretlondon: but coffee is common too |
| 19:38.33 | secretlondon | I've seen it on sale in a health food shop here |
| 19:38.36 | secretlondon | not tried |
| 19:40.17 | Facundo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimarr%c3%a3o |
| 19:40.43 | Facundo | thats how we prepare it |
| 19:50.54 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:33.10 | secretlondon | pizza |
| 20:33.28 | secretlondon | morsing: I thought you were cutting out beer? |
| 20:33.40 | morsing | secretlondon: :( |
| 20:33.45 | morsing | I couldn't :((( |
| 20:33.49 | secretlondon | no! |
| 20:33.52 | morsing | But I only had a main course |
| 20:34.07 | morsing | secretlondon: Also, at lunch I cut out my beer |
| 20:34.11 | morsing | :) |
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| 20:48.06 | z00dax_train | Yay |
| 20:48.16 | morsing | z00dax_train! |
| 20:49.00 | z00dax_train | There is a glitch in the matrix |
| 20:49.13 | z00dax_train | I am the only person in the carriage |
| 20:49.21 | secretlondon | web site pizza |
| 20:49.24 | z00dax_train | Ummmm pizzzzaaaa |
| 20:49.33 | secretlondon | yesh pizza |
| 20:49.34 | z00dax_train | Website pizza ? |
| 20:49.55 | secretlondon | pizza ordered through website and paid for with card |
| 20:50.03 | secretlondon | not done that before |
| 20:50.11 | secretlondon | charged me 50p for the priv |
| 20:50.47 | z00dax_train | Should that not be the other way around ? |
| 20:51.05 | z00dax_train | Considering you saved them someones salary for 3 min |
| 20:51.26 | secretlondon | yeah but they pay commission to the webshite and card handling fees |
| 20:51.53 | morsing | Still... They need less staff |
| 20:52.00 | secretlondon | quite a few locally http://www.just-eat.co.uk/pages/restaurants.aspx?zip=SE5&lang=en |
| 20:52.17 | secretlondon | they charge 50p for cards anyway |
| 20:52.27 | z00dax_train | Are local standalone type pizza delivery places better than dominos ? |
| 20:52.42 | secretlondon | I expect the 3 mins of staff time may be more/less than website fees |
| 20:53.03 | secretlondon | dominos owners are really dodgy us nationalist types |
| 20:53.22 | secretlondon | I prefer to give my cash to local random places anyway |
| 20:53.38 | z00dax_train | Interesting :) |
| 20:54.33 | z00dax_train | There are two dominos in my area, both run by very random people. |
| 20:54.50 | morsing | z00dax_train: She said owners |
| 20:54.53 | z00dax_train | Although have not ordered enough times to have opinion |
| 20:54.56 | morsing | Not managers |
| 20:55.15 | secretlondon | they franchises |
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| 21:06.29 | z00dax__train | Ten thousand holy disconnections dude |
| 21:10.14 | secretlondon | website doesn't say how much they charge restaurants (unsurprisingly) |
| 21:10.23 | secretlondon | "The customer orders from the restaurants menucard on Just-Eat.co.uk. The restaurant receives the order via the JustConnect box, containing all the necessary information - fast and simple." |
| 21:10.49 | secretlondon | owned by scandinavians apparently |
| 21:11.30 | catalyst | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_w0R8snhE <--- nom nom nom nom nom |
| 21:16.03 | secretlondon | pizza! |
| 21:16.17 | z00dax__train | My station! |
| 21:17.22 | Nafallo | hmm |
| 21:17.29 | Nafallo | no |
| 21:17.38 | morsing | yes |
| 21:18.05 | Nafallo | I had that yesterday. will have to be something else today. |
| 21:18.22 | morsing | You had ham? |
| 21:18.30 | Nafallo | no, pizza. |
| 21:34.54 | secretlondon | yay a 15inch pizza box fits in my fridge :) |
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| 22:34.05 | secretlondon | ooh we have gluug mail |
| 22:34.12 | secretlondon | mailing list been given a laxative |
| 22:40.19 | z00dax | nice |
| 22:40.26 | z00dax | pizza any good ? |
| 22:40.37 | secretlondon | yeah it was okay |
| 22:40.47 | secretlondon | 50%+ in the fridge |
| 22:41.55 | secretlondon | catalyst: sounds painful |
| 22:42.26 | catalyst | you're telling me |
| 22:44.16 | hali | pizza for breakfast is great |
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| 23:32.23 | secretlondon | bizarre google ad "uk.sun.com - Save A Penguin - Unplug A Linux Server. Make The Web A Cooler Place" |
| 23:32.49 | secretlondon | make the web a cooler place by having more sun? |
| 23:33.00 | hali | sun uk is 15 years behind sun us |
| 23:33.32 | hali | sun uk is still snobbish men late 40's men in suits |
| 23:34.01 | LeedsHK | erm... |
| 23:34.40 | LeedsHK | hali: what? |
| 23:34.55 | hali | dealing with sun in the uk is usually a nightmare |
| 23:35.09 | hali | at least if you work for a non-fortune-50 company |
| 23:35.32 | hali | "no im not buying 500 sparc servers, i want 5 amd servers!" |
| 23:36.00 | LeedsHK | ah, sales... |
| 23:36.05 | hali | their sales network is probably their biggest issue |
| 23:36.24 | LeedsHK | doesn't everyone just go online for that sort of thing anyway now? |
| 23:36.54 | LeedsHK | I can't comment on sales, but there are some damn good technical people in Sun UK |
| 23:37.02 | hali | yes, most people do, i.e. buy dell :) |
| 23:37.13 | LeedsHK | certainly the best engineers I've ever worked with |
| 23:37.16 | secretlondon | LeedsHK: you used to work for Sun? |
| 23:37.37 | hali | sun uk doesn't even offer online sales of more than a handful of products, mostly mouse pads |
| 23:37.41 | LeedsHK | secretlondon: yes |
| 23:37.51 | hali | BSi is ok to deal with actually, sometimes |
| 23:39.01 | LeedsHK | secretlondon: was laid off almost exactly 3 years ago... |
| 23:39.18 | LeedsHK | oh, and for the record, for those who aren't following me on facebook - I was laid off again 2 days ago :-) |
| 23:39.27 | secretlondon | I think I remember you telling me, as part of the story of how you ended up in HK |
| 23:39.32 | secretlondon | LeedsHK: :( |
| 23:39.45 | secretlondon | well I'm still living on benefits |
| 23:40.03 | LeedsHK | no benefits here |
| 23:40.23 | secretlondon | not heard re: an interview I had on tuesday which was due to start on Monday. Presume U haven't got but they could be seeing if they can get better |
| 23:40.32 | LeedsHK | unless you're on disability or something like that - and even then, you're not expected to live off it |
| 23:40.33 | secretlondon | -U +I |
| 23:42.11 | LeedsHK | I was planning on quitting this job pretty soon anyway - been looking around for something else - but there was some sort of boardroom battle, which resulted in cost-saving, which is expressed as 'get rid of the expensive people, because they're not earning us money *right now*' |
| 23:43.28 | LeedsHK | I'm not particularly worried about finding something... I am worried about running out of money first |
| 23:44.26 | LeedsHK | secretlondon: be thankful you don't need a work visa - you don't, do you? |
| 23:44.35 | secretlondon | no |
| 23:44.52 | secretlondon | born here, GB passport |
| 23:45.02 | LeedsHK | by law, I should wait the 4-6 weeks it'll take them to issue mine before starting a job, after I get a firm offer |
| 23:46.16 | LeedsHK | last time, between assembling the appropriate paperwork and getting the visa back, it took 3 months |
| 23:46.41 | LeedsHK | I then had to argue with the company because they had pro-rata-ed my leave and bonus from my official start date rather than the real one |
| 23:48.34 | LeedsHK | anyway, I took yesterday off, stayed in bed... been pretty exhausted recently, not from hard work, but from barely doing any work at the arse-end of HK, an hour extra commute per day compared with the office |