IRC log for #gllug on 20080329

00:14.01Discordianhmmm
00:47.15secretlondonnight
01:05.44Leedswethrin: happy birthday, apparently
01:24.27aguaihow can I know which program is occupieing my port 80?
01:26.11antiphase`netstat -lnp` as root
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06:25.13ranner81is still awake, a bit drunk, and has to catch a train in 4 hours :s
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12:37.26Axello all
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13:23.25secretlondonhi
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14:31.36DiscordianGood afternoon
14:40.24secretlondonhi
14:48.37DiscordianIt's not nice out
14:48.51LeedsI got sunburned again today
14:49.49Discordianno chance of that in london today
14:57.43DiscordianAnd in fact tis raining now
15:04.51siriuslyyeah I am getting tired of this incessant heat! ;-)
15:06.57secretlondonand the bright sunshine streaming into my flat
15:07.07secretlondongoes and puts the light on at 3pm
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15:15.22IAmAIHi
15:15.36IAmAICan anyone help me with grep?
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15:18.50DiscordianPossibly, what's the problem?
15:20.03IAmAII have a file that contains a line like the following: "URL=http://www.example.com"
15:20.27IAmAIAnd I have a RE for matching that line: URL=.*
15:20.53IAmAIHow can I tell grep to output just the actual URL part and not the "URL=" part
15:21.21IAmAISo I get "http://www.example.com" rather than "URL=http://www.example.com"
15:21.30IAmAIas output
15:21.32Discordianyou can't
15:21.43DiscordianBut you pipe the output to sed
15:21.55Discordianand remove the URL= that way
15:21.56IAmAII see
15:22.47DiscordianIt's the unix/linux way
15:23.07IAmAIThanks
15:30.33antiphaseA trivial example might be:
15:30.34antiphasecogito:~ $ echo  "My URL=http://www.example.com is lovely" | grep -oi 'http://[^[:space:]]*'
15:30.38antiphasecogito:~ $ echo  "My URL=http://www.example.com is lovely" | grep -oi 'http://[^[:spachttp://www.example.com
15:30.44antiphaseWell that worked well
15:30.47antiphasegrrs
15:30.53antiphaseAnyway, you can do it with grep -o
15:32.45Discordianhas learned something new
15:33.51antiphaseIt's a GNU-only thing unfortunately
15:34.05DiscordianYeah
15:34.21DiscordianSurely wasn't in SVr4.2 grep
17:57.53wethrinLeeds: Thanks, but you're a couple of days early
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19:38.23Discordiansighs
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20:29.41halifeels really pikey and browses www.hotukdeals.com
20:53.00cpufreakpondering another car.
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21:13.10halia nice hybrid car perhaps?
21:13.15haligood for the environment
21:59.47DiscordianIn a way that using public transport isn't good?
22:02.37cpufreakhali: no
22:02.43cpufreakpossibly something with a 427 cubic inch v8
22:03.07halithat's not a good car to get from place A to place B
22:03.28cpufreakI still have the M3 for when I want to be economical
22:03.36cpufreakit'll do 18 mpg on a good run
22:03.42haliM3?
22:03.47haliis that a car too?
22:04.29cpufreakbmw m3 csl si a car yeus
22:04.55Discordian18 mpg !
22:04.57haliok
22:06.16halihm, fuel-economy.co.uk says that a good car makes about 50 MPG
22:06.23haliim looking at a decent skoda
22:07.20cpufreakMPG is unrlated to how good a car is.
22:07.36cpufreakI find often the case, is thats its the inverse.
22:08.00haliyou mean when one take general polution in to account?
22:08.09cpufreakI walk to work.
22:08.36cpufreakthe polution I emit is tiny compared to anyone who commutes to work through another form of transport
22:08.50cpufreakand the amount of polution emitted by cars is tiny compared to airports
22:09.05hali"every little helps"
22:09.05cpufreakits just stupid environmentalist twaddle
22:09.30cpufreakheathrow airport emits more co2 emissions in a day, than all the cars in london do, in a day
22:09.41halii walk to work too, wouldn't mind having a car but can't really justify the cost and environmental impact
22:09.44cpufreaklike by a factor of 6x more/day, than londin in a year.
22:09.52halii wouldn't use it more than a couple of times a month
22:09.59cpufreakignore the enivronmental impact. its a non argument, seriously
22:10.14antiphaseHippies
22:10.15halijust manufacturing a car is bad enough, if i don't use it i mean
22:11.10cpufreakbut also there's a lot of stuff hidden
22:11.26cpufreaklike take a range rover... 75% of all those made, are still on the roads. and running well
22:11.35antiphaseI think environmentalists are just another product of our over-developed Western society. 200 years ago you'd have been happy not to be dying of tuberculosis or syphilis
22:12.01cpufreakwith the toyota prius, first the chemicals used to make the batteries, and so on, and then the environmental cost of shipping it 3/4 of the way round the world
22:12.20cpufreakand then the fact for most people its less economical than a diesel
22:12.59cpufreakand that in a few years, assuming its used as a daily commuter, the batteries will need to be thrown out, and disposed of
22:13.16cpufreakwhich will outweight the cost of replacing the car
22:13.35cpufreakso actually, its worse for the environment than the aformentioned v8 rangerover.
22:15.31cpufreakI wouldm't mind the whole enivronmental thing, if it was real, but people who tend to give me grief about my cars, still get imported products from all round the world, and still fly  off on holidays and so on
22:15.39cpufreakwhich to me makes them hypocrites
22:15.55cpufreakI mean I only burnt 4500 litres of petrol last year
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