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| 00:01.10 | secretlondon | night |
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| 05:00.45 | Discordian | Morning |
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| 06:24.56 | Leeds | morning? |
| 06:27.13 | Discordian | Tis in the UK |
| 06:27.48 | Leeds | I know... I'm in the UK |
| 06:28.01 | Leeds | to be more precise, I'm in a cafe at Paddington station |
| 06:28.30 | Discordian | I'm a long way from there |
| 06:28.38 | Leeds | trying to work out why my firefox 3.0b5 appears to be thrashing my 'disk' (flash memory) so hard |
| 06:29.34 | Discordian | eee pc? |
| 06:29.49 | Leeds | yes |
| 06:30.50 | Discordian | firefox is a bit heavy for such devices |
| 06:30.56 | Leeds | nope, it's fine |
| 06:31.09 | Leeds | something has gone psycho and is causing it to mash the disk |
| 06:31.49 | Leeds | I would say it was thrashing swap except a) there's no swap on this machine and b) I upped the RAM to 1GB this week, and there's plenty free |
| 06:32.24 | Leeds | wonder if it's an extension... |
| 06:35.02 | Discordian | though a cafe sounds good |
| 06:35.58 | Discordian | croissants with brie and salad and strong coffee would work |
| 06:36.27 | Leeds | I have set up shop here... I have wifi, warmth, power and a comfy seat :-) |
| 06:37.08 | Discordian | sounds ideal |
| 06:37.39 | Leeds | yup |
| 06:37.55 | Leeds | pleasant background music... |
| 06:38.15 | Discordian | eeep I hate that |
| 06:38.37 | Leeds | nah, it's quite nice |
| 06:38.45 | Leeds | just getting annoyed at my firefox now |
| 06:39.09 | Discordian | links ftw |
| 06:39.17 | Leeds | nah |
| 06:40.09 | Leeds | incidentally, I don't know what general opinions are of the Cloud wifi, but 6.99 per month for unlimited use from a single MAC address seems quite reasonable |
| 06:40.12 | Discordian | I suspect ie6 would run on the eee |
| 06:40.43 | Leeds | ff3 runs fine, except when it hits some pathological path and goes nuts on the disk |
| 06:40.51 | Discordian | 7 quid a month sounds ok |
| 06:41.22 | Discordian | I could go sit outside McD |
| 06:41.30 | Discordian | But i'd get mugged |
| 06:42.11 | Leeds | I pay about that for unlimited GPRS in HK |
| 06:42.46 | Discordian | for some value of unlimited |
| 06:43.43 | Leeds | very unlimited |
| 06:44.05 | Discordian | They'd let you ship 151Gb/month? |
| 06:44.11 | Leeds | for my GPRS, anyway... it's completely open, I've streamed audio over it, and I get a real IP address so I can even do unlimited comms over it |
| 06:44.29 | Leeds | you think you can do 151Gb on GPRS in a month? |
| 06:44.45 | Discordian | No |
| 06:45.15 | Discordian | but I'm prodding at unlimited |
| 06:45.32 | Leeds | unlimited what? |
| 06:45.47 | Leeds | incidentally, I think the thrashing could be something to do with sqlite journaling and/or locking |
| 06:46.17 | Leeds | it's slightly har to do research on brower problems when your browser is having problems... |
| 06:46.19 | Discordian | i got bandwidth limited for a month when I shipped 151Gb |
| 06:46.30 | Leeds | shipped 151Gb over what? |
| 06:46.37 | Discordian | SDSL |
| 06:46.43 | Discordian | ADSL even |
| 06:47.04 | Leeds | which doesn't have that much to do with either of the wireless platforms I've mentioned... |
| 06:47.15 | Discordian | indeed |
| 06:47.23 | Leeds | most services do have 'fair use' policies, even if they are not particularly fair |
| 06:47.57 | Discordian | aye |
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| 07:38.07 | cityLights | hi , why can't I su to root no longger? |
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| 07:45.23 | Leeds | okay, I guess this breakfast thing isn't happening |
| 07:47.19 | cityLights | I am still in the wheel group |
| 07:52.23 | Discordian | wheel group? |
| 07:53.19 | Discordian | nasty nasty BSDism |
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| 12:14.30 | secretlondon | hi |
| 12:15.04 | Leeds | afternoon |
| 12:21.39 | hali | hi |
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| 12:28.56 | secretlondon | hi Leeds |
| 12:29.04 | secretlondon | How was breakfast? |
| 12:30.23 | Leeds | lonely |
| 12:30.32 | Leeds | how was yours? |
| 12:40.16 | secretlondon | eating now |
| 12:41.24 | hali | brunch |
| 12:41.33 | secretlondon | well its muesli |
| 12:47.34 | Leeds | rabbit food brunch then |
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| 13:09.54 | ballpointpenthie | When is the next meeting? I'd like to check it out. |
| 13:10.21 | hali | nothing planned at the moment |
| 13:10.45 | secretlondon | you can join the announcement email list |
| 13:14.36 | ballpointpenthie | I might do that |
| 14:29.04 | Leeds | welcome to Leeds |
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| 14:58.13 | AndyMillar | i wonder what cv.ic.ac.uk is |
| 14:58.29 | AndyMillar | aha |
| 14:58.31 | AndyMillar | civil engineering |
| 14:58.52 | secretlondon | wonders why Leeds had a swedish ip |
| 15:49.30 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 15:49.35 | AndyMillar | national express train |
| 15:49.56 | AndyMillar | the wifi on there goes via sweden |
| 15:50.36 | secretlondon | ok weird |
| 15:50.55 | AndyMillar | why weird? |
| 15:51.59 | hali | it's via a swedish satelite company |
| 15:55.33 | secretlondon | ah ok |
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| 16:01.45 | secretlondon | wb boudiccas |
| 16:02.18 | boudiccas | ty secretlondon |
| 16:05.06 | boudiccas | everythign seems slow today :( |
| 16:05.29 | AndyMillar | it's that time of the week |
| 16:10.06 | boudiccas | poets day was yesterday, i thought things would speed up a tad on saturday |
| 16:10.42 | boudiccas | even yum is slow when doing a check-update |
| 16:14.53 | boudiccas | can someone near the internet meter put another fifty pence in the slot please to speed things up again? |
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| 16:18.08 | AndyMillar | isn't yum always slow |
| 16:18.11 | AndyMillar | and fucks sake |
| 16:18.14 | AndyMillar | evolution has crashed again |
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| 16:28.08 | secretlondon | evolution :( |
| 16:28.32 | secretlondon | I insulted evolution on irc and people thought I was a creationist ;) |
| 16:41.20 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 16:41.49 | secretlondon | evolution keeps looping! It locks up! |
| 16:43.07 | hali | i find it fairly buggy |
| 16:43.11 | hali | thunderbird is a safer bet |
| 16:43.22 | AndyMillar | i need mapi over rpc over http though : |
| 16:43.23 | AndyMillar | :( |
| 16:43.34 | hali | exchange? |
| 16:52.34 | AndyMillar | indeed |
| 17:09.34 | cpufreak | just get your IT support department to migrate your company's mail to Google Apps |
| 17:13.22 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 17:18.50 | AndyMillar | exchange is awesome, sadly :( |
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| 18:21.30 | JAV | hi |
| 18:25.19 | Armand | Hiya. :) |
| 18:27.08 | secretlondon | hi |
| 18:27.52 | Discordian | Hi |
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| 18:29.26 | till_varoquaux | hey, could anyone around central london burn me a bootable cd? |
| 18:29.53 | z00dax | ? |
| 18:29.57 | secretlondon | of what? |
| 18:30.03 | till_varoquaux | I'm kinda stuck with a chicken and egg situation |
| 18:30.11 | z00dax | humm chicken |
| 18:30.22 | boudiccas | question still applies. of what? |
| 18:30.42 | etorix | what, and put it on a bike |
| 18:30.43 | till_varoquaux | ubuntu would be great but really as long as I get on the internet with my other machine I'm fine |
| 18:31.07 | z00dax | till_varoquaux: NEEDMOREINFO |
| 18:31.11 | z00dax | what do you need a boot disk for ? |
| 18:31.15 | boudiccas | have you thought of nuying yourself a copy of Linux Format, they generally have distros on their dvd |
| 18:31.18 | secretlondon | what's your problem? |
| 18:31.23 | boudiccas | *buying |
| 18:31.39 | till_varoquaux | the laptop I'm typing this from does not have a CD burner |
| 18:32.08 | till_varoquaux | so I cannot setup my new machine (the cd I brought back from work are fried) |
| 18:32.10 | boudiccas | linux format is the solution mate |
| 18:32.32 | z00dax | what sort of a machine is that ? pxe boot an option ? |
| 18:33.01 | till_varoquaux | I'm not making myself clear: I just bought a new desktop |
| 18:33.15 | boudiccas | congratulations till_varoquaux |
| 18:33.26 | till_varoquaux | I have two machines: the one I'm currently using does not have a cd reader |
| 18:33.35 | till_varoquaux | thx boudicca |
| 18:33.41 | secretlondon | you still need a linux bootable CD? |
| 18:33.46 | till_varoquaux | yep |
| 18:33.51 | secretlondon | try linux format, it'll have one on the front |
| 18:33.55 | secretlondon | million times easier |
| 18:33.58 | boudiccas | must it be cd rather than dvd? |
| 18:34.00 | z00dax | or just network boot the machine |
| 18:34.16 | z00dax | if its a desktop and has a half decent network card, thereis a very high chance that it will network boot |
| 18:34.25 | boudiccas | linux format uses dvd's |
| 18:34.28 | z00dax | alternatively, does it have *any* operating system on it ? |
| 18:34.51 | till_varoquaux | z00dax: no |
| 18:35.24 | Discordian | A new machine and it's not a CD-Rw |
| 18:35.32 | Discordian | shakes my head |
| 18:35.33 | secretlondon | presumably a new desk top will have a dvd drive |
| 18:35.43 | secretlondon | Discordian, it's his laptop that doesn't have a rw |
| 18:35.56 | till_varoquaux | no: the new machine isn't the one I'm on |
| 18:35.58 | Discordian | Oh |
| 18:36.15 | z00dax | till_varoquaux: do you know if the machine will netboot ? or is that an option you dont even want to go down |
| 18:36.19 | secretlondon | but the machine you want to install to can read dvds? |
| 18:36.24 | etorix | swap in the hd |
| 18:36.28 | Discordian | Do you have a USB pen drive? |
| 18:36.31 | till_varoquaux | I guess I could set PXE but it sounds painful |
| 18:36.37 | till_varoquaux | no pendrive. |
| 18:36.41 | secretlondon | linux format is the easiest |
| 18:36.58 | z00dax | pxe is trivial, 60 seconds at best to setup if you have the installer you want to run |
| 18:37.17 | z00dax | what OS are you running on your laptop / present machine ? |
| 18:37.19 | etorix | i forget whats on linux format, i looked at it yesterday |
| 18:37.25 | secretlondon | fears sun netbooting |
| 18:37.52 | till_varoquaux | I have very bad memories of tftp rarp and other netboot fancyness... |
| 18:37.52 | z00dax | secretlondon: :D I hear OBP can do dhcp now, and you dont really need rarpd anymore... that used to be one pain in the rear end |
| 18:37.54 | secretlondon | gaves all her ubuntu Cds to the infoshop |
| 18:38.17 | etorix | the infoshop? |
| 18:38.28 | till_varoquaux | I will trade bootable cd for beer and/or pizza |
| 18:38.28 | secretlondon | yeah the anarchist centre at elephant and castle |
| 18:38.40 | etorix | i defenestrated my last lot of ubuntu cds |
| 18:39.19 | z00dax | till_varoquaux: ok, I guess you dont want to consider pxe then :) although you might find a VMWARE applicance that works with vmplayer that has something already setup to do the serving from .... |
| 18:39.22 | etorix | ah, i should bung them some next time i go down the elephant |
| 18:39.34 | z00dax | its been years since i used real cd/dvd media to actually install anything |
| 18:39.39 | etorix | my mate luna lives near |
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| 18:39.54 | secretlondon | etorix: they go through them quickly. they stuck them in a little box for people to help themselves |
| 18:40.01 | z00dax | tbh, its been years since I used cd/dvd media for anything except to put music on so i can hear it in my car |
| 18:40.10 | secretlondon | uses cds to boot from all the time |
| 18:40.21 | z00dax | till_varoquaux: where are you based ? |
| 18:40.23 | boudiccas | till_varoquaux; go down to wh smiths and get yourself a copy of linux format |
| 18:40.34 | z00dax | boudiccas: no beer involved in that!!!! |
| 18:40.39 | till_varoquaux | covent garden |
| 18:40.41 | etorix | wh is shut, go to a train station |
| 18:41.00 | boudiccas | it comes with a bootable dvd which contains some bootable distros |
| 18:41.18 | z00dax | thats nowhere near me, so this is where the conversation ends as far as I am concerned |
| 18:41.41 | secretlondon | you can buy stacks of distros on ebay too |
| 18:41.54 | etorix | im north-ish camden |
| 18:42.02 | till_varoquaux | I was thinking of something along those line (linux format) but could not find anything useful |
| 18:42.12 | till_varoquaux | etorix: this could work |
| 18:43.09 | till_varoquaux | secret_london: I can get stuff at work on monday. No point ordering on ebay |
| 18:43.29 | etorix | easiest is to buy a comic tho |
| 18:43.50 | Discordian | The bookshops on Charing Road will be open till 11pm |
| 18:43.53 | secretlondon | till_varoquaux, easiest for you is to go to Kings Cross or Euston and buy a magazine |
| 18:44.11 | Discordian | charing cross road |
| 18:44.21 | etorix | or charing cross, even |
| 18:44.33 | boudiccas | till_varoquaux; define 'useful'??? |
| 18:44.33 | till_varoquaux | sounds good to me |
| 18:44.44 | secretlondon | any big station will have the linux mag |
| 18:44.54 | etorix | yup |
| 18:45.21 | till_varoquaux | looked in small stations. Playboy does not have a bootable cd this week |
| 18:45.44 | secretlondon | well it's not know for it's linux coverage |
| 18:46.11 | etorix | they dont stock guns'n'ammo anymore, u cant top yerself |
| 18:46.43 | till_varoquaux | hmm. I knew I must have been doing something wrong ;-) |
| 18:47.08 | etorix | as it goes, i dont have a release iso to burn |
| 18:47.22 | secretlondon | etorix, think you can buy guns in some newsagents, under the counter like |
| 18:47.39 | etorix | in sarf london, sure |
| 18:47.45 | secretlondon | imagines so |
| 18:48.21 | till_varoquaux | well, I'm off. Beer offer no longer holds |
| 18:48.41 | boudiccas | all bets are off |
| 18:48.44 | secretlondon | wh smiths will be pleased to see you |
| 18:50.51 | secretlondon | isn't that keen for pizza on a saturdsay night |
| 18:51.22 | Discordian | heh |
| 18:52.50 | till_varoquaux | secretlondon: it was flexible: I'm not a big pizza person but I do not feel like treating a stranger to a 3* restaurant |
| 18:53.21 | secretlondon | till_varoquaux, i can't be bothered in general, if you can't be bothered to go to a newsagent |
| 18:55.32 | till_varoquaux | Hey, let's keep it nice: I'm not fro around here; since the small shops did not have any linux magazins I did think about it any more |
| 18:55.50 | secretlondon | sure no problem |
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| 18:56.00 | secretlondon | sighs |
| 18:56.31 | etorix | http://download.zattoo.com/ aint coming up |
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| 18:59.11 | secretlondon | hopes she wasn't too rude, but he basically wanted a courier service |
| 18:59.24 | secretlondon | on a saturday night |
| 18:59.43 | etorix | yeah |
| 19:11.24 | boudiccas | he was just at troll |
| 19:11.30 | boudiccas | *a troll |
| 19:11.59 | secretlondon | I think he was a spoilt kid |
| 19:14.43 | etorix | he didnt burn his media right |
| 19:15.07 | secretlondon | he can get the media on monday, he wants it asap |
| 19:15.19 | secretlondon | he probably wants someone to install it for him |
| 19:25.21 | etorix | i could of rolled a cd down the hill |
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| 22:35.12 | eto | hm |
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| 22:38.11 | secretlondon | etorix, you were eto? |
| 22:38.25 | etorix | er, yeah |
| 22:39.20 | etorix | i still am, on another box |
| 22:40.29 | secretlondon | needs to go to sleep |
| 22:40.40 | secretlondon | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.47 | secretlondon | obvious |
| 22:41.39 | etorix | no cloak |
| 22:41.59 | secretlondon | yeah |
| 22:42.24 | secretlondon | i'm annoyed, vodafone content control is stuck on, and it's blocking even more than it did before |
| 22:42.30 | etorix | i play online as eto |
| 22:42.58 | secretlondon | it's blocking wikipedia's media search engine, and all of live journal now |
| 22:43.07 | etorix | id changed nick on server tab by mistake |
| 22:43.11 | secretlondon | is generally ranting |
| 22:43.14 | secretlondon | etorix, ah |
| 22:43.35 | etorix | i was in a server room |
| 22:43.47 | secretlondon | etorix: you're at work? |
| 22:43.57 | etorix | ha, gameserver |
| 22:44.00 | secretlondon | ah ok |
| 22:44.16 | etorix | im tarting up my openarena server |
| 22:45.12 | secretlondon | the bbc seem to have written an entire news article based on reading an indie band's web forum |
| 22:45.14 | etorix | and id joined another network, then joined a room on freenode, changed nick and forgot |
| 22:45.51 | etorix | trying 64-bit server |
| 22:46.35 | secretlondon | I've made 2 tuxpaint starter images (like things to colour in) |
| 22:46.58 | secretlondon | I'm considering trying to cut out a snail |
| 22:47.00 | etorix | theres a nl server called rainbow, they are in #rainbow |
| 22:48.24 | etorix | openarena server config aint documented well |
| 22:49.51 | secretlondon | :( |
| 23:13.22 | secretlondon | 400 pix of brown juicy snail! |
| 23:13.31 | secretlondon | ideal for under 10s! |
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