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| 02:31.42 | secretlondon | hi etorix |
| 02:31.43 | secretlondon | hi catalyst |
| 02:32.05 | catalyst | herro |
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| 06:22.27 | secretlondon | blurgh rain |
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| 06:34.49 | secretlondon | 2 pigeons on my balcony. One is facing me, watching me, the other facing out |
| 06:47.59 | AndyMillar | yeah, it's foul :( |
| 06:49.44 | secretlondon | I had fowl, if pigeons count |
| 06:49.54 | secretlondon | they've gone now |
| 06:50.06 | secretlondon | it wasn't raining overnight, of course |
| 06:50.28 | clive-h | tis nasty out |
| 06:51.21 | clive-h | I can't imagine london pigeons would be good eating |
| 06:51.24 | secretlondon | I have a 9am 2hr course on interview skills and then the ecounting machine demonstration that has been moved from city hall because of the flooding |
| 06:51.57 | clive-h | Sounds like a busy day |
| 06:53.20 | secretlondon | been up all night as I woke up at 8pm |
| 06:54.09 | clive-h | Oh dear |
| 06:54.31 | clive-h | Been awake here since 4 |
| 06:56.46 | AndyMillar | drink coffee? ;P |
| 06:57.10 | secretlondon | am doing |
| 06:57.26 | AndyMillar | and I thought my sleeping pattern was buggered :/ |
| 06:59.23 | secretlondon | mine is outstanding! |
| 07:01.46 | AndyMillar | :p |
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| 07:42.23 | ChoHag | There are three English football teams that always fall victim to overzealous censorship: Arsenal, Scunthorpe and Manchester Fucking United. |
| 07:54.54 | bilarh_ | morning people |
| 07:55.30 | ChoHag | I hate morning people. |
| 07:56.11 | hali | morning |
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| 10:02.50 | yaarg | um, anyone know the name of device advertised on the tube quite a bit at moment that allows you to browse the internet from anywhere without wiki for a yearly fixed cost? |
| 10:04.17 | yaarg | ah ha |
| 10:04.20 | yaarg | linsar pocket surfer 2 |
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| 10:23.23 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin! |
| 10:23.49 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I'm back at work :-( |
| 10:24.05 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: where else would you be? |
| 10:25.36 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: At home? In Jail? in a Lithuanian death squad |
| 10:26.28 | bilarh_ | more like down the gaybar |
| 10:26.53 | bilarh_ | see, haven't you missed all the abuse? |
| 10:27.00 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: na, I had to give that up, after all you've 'had' everyone |
| 10:29.02 | bilarh_ | we all miss you, you know |
| 10:29.13 | bilarh_ | how we used to laugh at your little todger :D |
| 10:29.35 | yaarg | O_o |
| 10:29.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: That'll be the day, "Nobody loves me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna go and eat worms" |
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| 10:35.49 | bilarh_ | hehe |
| 10:35.58 | bilarh_ | sorry clive, we're not laughing at you |
| 10:36.24 | clive-h | That's cool |
| 10:36.28 | clive-h | Hi there |
| 10:36.39 | dick_turpin | clive-h: Long time no speak |
| 10:36.42 | bilarh_ | aloha |
| 10:37.31 | dick_turpin | clive-h: bilarh_ was laughing at you, honest, biff him in the face, I'll hold your coat for you |
| 10:37.52 | clive-h | Two calls from two agencies , about the same job in two minutes |
| 10:39.08 | dick_turpin | clive-h: Hm go with the one who'll get the least commission |
| 10:39.44 | clive-h | Lol |
| 10:39.59 | clive-h | The job is in .DE |
| 10:43.15 | dick_turpin | is busy getting records off the Kelly's 2008 disc with VM :-) |
| 10:43.48 | bilarh_ | clive-h: honest, it wasn't... dick_turpin said something about yo mum, and we all laughed |
| 10:44.46 | clive-h | That's okay |
| 10:47.25 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: You know your mum..... |
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| 10:55.55 | will_ | morning all |
| 10:56.16 | bilarh_ | this is so depressing: |
| 10:56.17 | bilarh_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=0008 |
| 11:02.07 | yaarg | got very wet on the way to work this mroning |
| 11:02.24 | dick_turpin | Its nice and sunny here :-) |
| 11:02.33 | will_ | I got nice and wet also :( |
| 11:02.41 | will_ | it was sunny when I left cambridge |
| 11:02.44 | AndyMillar | it's been raining on and off here tbh |
| 11:03.51 | yaarg | is in central london btw |
| 11:04.19 | will_ | im also in central london now |
| 11:04.27 | will_ | well whitechapel :o) |
| 11:05.20 | yaarg | shoreditch |
| 11:05.47 | hali | ack shoreditch'ish |
| 11:07.01 | bilarh_ | its fucking shite |
| 11:07.05 | bilarh_ | i hate the british weather |
| 11:07.14 | bilarh_ | i don't know what it is, but things have started to annoy me about britain |
| 11:07.22 | bilarh_ | one of them is the abysmal weather |
| 11:07.35 | bilarh_ | saturday was arguably good |
| 11:07.40 | bilarh_ | but apart from that, it's been rain rain rain |
| 11:08.52 | ElPenguin | oh goddamn the shadow on this monitor is starting to piss me off |
| 11:09.27 | yaarg | i like to think the british weather reflects the cold and harsh reality of real life |
| 11:10.03 | yaarg | and it makes me appreciate the moments of sunshine we have all the more |
| 11:10.14 | yaarg | and besides you can't make fun of nice weather so much |
| 11:11.21 | ChoHag | There are far more interesting things to hate about Britain than the weather. |
| 11:11.40 | yaarg | trying saying it's horrible out when it's sunny - the irony just doesn't translate |
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| 11:14.08 | bilarh_ | chohag: yeah but the weather is just another nail in the coffin imo :) |
| 11:14.23 | yaarg | like gormless brown |
| 11:14.28 | yaarg | or daft boris |
| 11:14.41 | bilarh_ | this is a good video on the subject of gordenron |
| 11:14.43 | bilarh_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFbLrqVRSAs |
| 11:14.59 | bilarh_ | closes the bbc weather web page in disgust |
| 11:15.02 | dick_turpin | ElPenguin: Rotflmao the subtlety of that statement was lost on this lot |
| 11:15.50 | yaarg | bilarh_: haha |
| 11:16.21 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: i don't get it :) |
| 11:16.37 | bilarh_ | i don't do subtle humour, only outrageous innuendos |
| 11:16.48 | bilarh_ | or plain old rudeness :) |
| 11:18.45 | ChoHag | Humour? |
| 11:18.49 | ChoHag | I thought it was venting. |
| 11:19.00 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Um? yes, not a fat lot more I can add to that |
| 11:20.32 | ElPenguin | dick_turpin: *sigh* |
| 11:22.32 | yaarg | i need an umbrella anyway that much is for sure |
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| 11:29.01 | bilarh_ | chohag: yeah mainly that |
| 11:47.53 | yaarg | gah well that's annoying, rains just as i was leaving for lunch :( |
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| 12:52.06 | Discordian | Re |
| 12:52.46 | will_ | stayed at hjs desk for lunch and stayed dry |
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| 12:55.14 | ChoHag | Bah I have to be inducted. |
| 12:55.38 | wethrin | ha |
| 12:55.58 | ChoHag | Grrr. |
| 12:56.15 | ChoHag | Windows does not think I am priveleged enough to open the calendar. |
| 12:57.16 | catalyst | BACK IN YOUR PLACE, USER |
| 12:58.01 | wethrin | heh |
| 12:59.13 | gregj | "can I haz calendar" "ney, you are baad, coz u don't haz vista" |
| 12:59.22 | wethrin | I HAZ VISTA |
| 12:59.51 | gregj | but no sp1 |
| 12:59.54 | gregj | baad boy :P |
| 12:59.58 | gregj | didn't you hear |
| 13:00.03 | wethrin | No, I haz no sp1 |
| 13:00.06 | gregj | steve bald mer |
| 13:00.10 | gregj | in his own words |
| 13:00.25 | gregj | that vista was incomplette, and shouldn't leave the r&d, but they had to put something out |
| 13:00.46 | gregj | I don't have that link at hand, but I will paste it here once I find it again |
| 13:01.24 | gregj | you know hpux ? |
| 13:01.31 | gregj | I am trying to compile openssl on it, nightmare |
| 13:01.49 | gregj | either it doesn't like libz |
| 13:01.56 | gregj | or I get screens of messgs like that: |
| 13:02.29 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.00 | gregj | tome those files are the same |
| 13:03.05 | Discordian | They are |
| 13:03.07 | ChoHag | gregj: s/openssl// |
| 13:03.27 | ChoHag | In fact, s/.*,// |
| 13:03.42 | Discordian | I'd say ld is trying to link libgcc.a twice |
| 13:04.06 | ChoHag | Not that I've ever used hpux, for which I am profoundly greatful. |
| 13:04.19 | gregj | you should |
| 13:04.20 | Discordian | So I'd start looking in your Makefile |
| 13:06.09 | gregj | so, now I haz two libgcc.a files on da disc |
| 13:06.11 | gregj | root:/tmp/openssl-0.9.8g#ls -la /usr/local/lib/gcc/ia64-hp-hpux11.23/4.2.3/hpux64/libgcc.a |
| 13:06.14 | gregj | -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 177916 Feb 21 23:37 /usr/local/lib/gcc/ia64-hp-hpux11.23/4.2.3/hpux64/libgcc.a |
| 13:06.17 | gregj | root:/tmp/openssl-0.9.8g#ls -la /usr/local/lib/gcc/ia64-hp-hpux11.23/4.2.3/libgcc.a |
| 13:06.21 | gregj | -rw-r--r-- 1 root sys 141524 Feb 21 23:37 /usr/local/lib/gcc/ia64-hp-hpux11.23/4.2.3/libgcc.a |
| 13:06.30 | gregj | I am fscking confused |
| 13:07.15 | Discordian | You do? |
| 13:07.28 | gregj | you are :P |
| 13:07.42 | Discordian | oh right |
| 13:07.44 | Discordian | Yes |
| 13:08.02 | gregj | and I love the file command on that fscking sytem |
| 13:08.08 | gregj | it says: 'archive' |
| 13:08.09 | gregj | :D |
| 13:08.12 | gregj | for both of those files |
| 13:08.19 | Discordian | That's because they are |
| 13:08.28 | Discordian | made with ar |
| 13:08.47 | gregj | so, now it is time to take my future-teller's ball out |
| 13:09.06 | Discordian | well |
| 13:09.26 | Discordian | Just move one aside |
| 13:09.33 | Discordian | and see what happens |
| 13:09.35 | yaarg | does anyone um have a spare windows cd? :P (need it for my mobile internet thingys it seems :S) |
| 13:10.04 | ChoHag | To give or to get something off |
| 13:10.05 | ChoHag | ? |
| 13:10.17 | Discordian | i have a few licensed copies of win98 |
| 13:10.31 | yaarg | xp preferably, heh |
| 13:10.32 | ChoHag | Who doesn't? |
| 13:11.31 | gregj | I know mr t. orrent has few |
| 13:12.03 | ChoHag | I have an XP iso but it's ah unconventionallt licensed |
| 13:12.11 | ChoHag | unconventionally |
| 13:12.26 | gregj | it looks like number makes the difference, the ISOs are mostly the same |
| 13:13.14 | ChoHag | I'd ask Mr. Orrent as greg suggested. |
| 13:14.20 | antiphase | Always good for getting slipstreamed pre-exploited systems |
| 13:14.39 | gregj | ;] |
| 13:14.42 | ChoHag | Easier than getting the exploit yourself. |
| 13:14.47 | ChoHag | Though not by much. |
| 13:14.50 | gregj | nothing like fresh can of worms |
| 13:15.38 | will_ | this is a linux user group channel and were talking about Windows XP through torrents argh! |
| 13:16.00 | will_ | runs and hides |
| 13:16.02 | yaarg | i just want to use the interwebs at home really |
| 13:16.22 | Discordian | I ask the interweb using linux |
| 13:16.28 | Discordian | s/ask/access/ |
| 13:16.30 | yaarg | and it seems i need windows to use the obscure usb modem i got from t-mobile |
| 13:16.51 | yaarg | unless i investigate some more maybe |
| 13:16.55 | yaarg | but then i need thte internet to do that |
| 13:17.05 | Discordian | Model number? |
| 13:18.25 | ChoHag | You can get some interwebs on Linux now? |
| 13:18.29 | will_ | I have heard about strange goings on with the t-mobile modem |
| 13:18.45 | will_ | does it assign you a IP under linux? |
| 13:20.15 | yaarg | huawei e270 i think |
| 13:20.28 | Discordian | http://codepoets.co.uk/t-mobile-webnwalk-aka-using-huawei-e220-usb-modem-linux |
| 13:20.43 | Discordian | Suggests usim |
| 13:20.48 | Discordian | Suggests using wvdial |
| 13:21.01 | yaarg | can't download them without the internet of course |
| 13:21.13 | yaarg | and my laptop doesn't have external drives |
| 13:21.20 | yaarg | i suppose i could go to an internet cafe |
| 13:21.53 | yaarg | ...or usb key |
| 13:23.00 | yaarg | hmm and that link seems to be an older model |
| 13:25.29 | Discordian | Catych 22 |
| 13:25.34 | Discordian | s/y// |
| 14:20.58 | yaarg | this is all because i want to never pay bt again :) |
| 14:25.52 | ChoHag | I get a blackberry. |
| 14:25.56 | ChoHag | Whether I like it or not. |
| 14:59.28 | yaarg | FFS |
| 14:59.39 | yaarg | wordpress upgrade instructions are brain damaged |
| 14:59.41 | yaarg | </rage> |
| 15:00.11 | yaarg | what kind of maniac puts keep this file as step 3 when step 2 was copy all the new files over the old ones? |
| 15:07.03 | bilarh_ | yaarg: lol :D |
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| 15:39.42 | Dj_InstincT | hi all - quick one - how can I kill a process which still runs after sending it kill -9 PID... |
| 15:41.37 | bilarh_ | a zombie? :) |
| 15:41.53 | yaarg | kill the parent? |
| 15:47.04 | Dj_InstincT | parent == 1? :( |
| 15:47.05 | Dj_InstincT | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.36 | Dj_InstincT | the Tl part suggests it is stopped? |
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| 15:50.35 | yaarg | 2heh |
| 15:50.36 | yaarg | reboot |
| 15:51.03 | Dj_InstincT | heh :/ 16:50:42 up 816 days, 4:32, 3 users |
| 15:52.12 | yaarg | it's probably not using any resources |
| 15:52.15 | yaarg | just a pcb or so |
| 15:52.27 | yaarg | unless you have a lot it's generally not a problem :) |
| 15:54.19 | Dj_InstincT | it is doing nothing in htop just sitting there - it is a process which was kicked off from a php script using exec :( said php script has since long stopped |
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| 16:01.15 | yaarg | there's no other way afaik |
| 16:01.40 | yaarg | it's bad behaviour, but it's common and i've seen hundreds of them on some production boxes. |
| 16:03.04 | yaarg | like i said it only really becomes a lot of them when you have many |
| 16:03.31 | yaarg | um yeah. |
| 16:03.51 | Dj_InstincT | thats fine - just annoying... |
| 16:08.49 | yaarg | you could maybe try attaching gdb to init |
| 16:08.56 | yaarg | and calling wait on the process.. |
| 16:09.07 | yaarg | but you probably can't attach gdb to init |
| 16:09.37 | yaarg | yeah it seems so |
| 16:13.23 | yaarg | ptracing init sounds like fun too |
| 16:13.23 | yaarg | :( |
| 16:15.27 | Dj_InstincT | specially when never used gdb ;) |
| 16:16.24 | yaarg | it's worth knowing about. |
| 16:17.57 | Dj_InstincT | funnily enough about 1/2 hour ago I was looking at using it for apache/httpd |
| 16:25.25 | antiphase | Not a lot of use unless you have symbols available, or you have mad assembler skillz |
| 16:28.37 | Dj_InstincT | which i found out - I am trying to track the virtual host / pages which cause httpd high usage |
| 16:30.46 | yaarg | disable each by turn and see who moans most |
| 16:31.03 | yaarg | 8-) |
| 16:31.06 | Dj_InstincT | i'd love to |
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| 17:37.53 | yaarg | dear rain, fuck off so i can go home, kind regards, yaarg |
| 17:38.52 | Discordian | heh |
| 17:39.48 | yaarg | rain replied telling me to get a hooded jacket :( |
| 17:43.17 | curson | yaarg: here it's coming down even heavier than 5 minutes ago |
| 17:43.24 | curson | hope you're not in West London |
| 17:45.19 | yaarg | north heading south |
| 17:45.41 | Discordian | It's a bit wet here |
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| 17:47.01 | curson | save yourself and stay away from the overground :p |
| 17:47.19 | curson | (it's not that bad, actually) |
| 17:47.32 | Discordian | Or outdoors generally atm |
| 17:47.42 | yaarg | i'm a tube goer usually |
| 17:48.21 | Discordian | Network SE but not the Overground[tm] |
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| 17:49.32 | yaarg | seems to be getting heavier |
| 17:49.36 | yaarg | ffs |
| 17:50.35 | Discordian | I chose the right moment to shop |
| 17:52.01 | yaarg | ponders a sneaky run to the pub at the corner |
| 17:52.02 | curson | ad far as I'm concerned |
| 17:52.25 | curson | it can rain all the way until tomorrow between 12pm and 1:30pm |
| 17:52.30 | curson | I need it to stop then :p |
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| 17:55.05 | yaarg | minor glitch in the rain deferences GO GO GO |
| 17:55.18 | yaarg | s/deferences/defences/ |
| 17:57.16 | curson | good look yaarg |
| 17:57.20 | AndyMillar | Discordian: it's special in north london too |
| 18:00.43 | Discordian | The North Woolwich line? |
| 18:01.13 | Discordian | There's no tubes here at all |
| 18:04.30 | boudiccas | Discordian; what! no smartie tubes??? |
| 18:04.40 | Discordian | Lol |
| 18:04.59 | Discordian | Not allowed sweets |
| 18:05.01 | boudiccas | smartie people are happy people |
| 18:05.05 | Discordian | <-- diabetic |
| 18:05.13 | boudiccas | i'll eat your share then Discordian |
| 18:06.02 | Discordian | Feel free |
| 18:06.25 | Discordian | Even the blue ones are okay so the telly says |
| 18:15.01 | Discordian | I was tempted to try cheesecake today |
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| 19:14.55 | Discordian | bleagh |
| 19:15.38 | Discordian | It really would be sad if the OLPC goes windows only |
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| 22:48.33 | z00dax | watches midnight approaching |
| 23:08.39 | z00dax | ah man, midnight. |
| 23:08.43 | z00dax | ponders sleep |
| 23:12.58 | curson | z00dax: I'm pondering too |
| 23:13.11 | curson | but the night is an interesting period |