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| 02:16.32 | secretlondon | hi |
| 02:43.53 | Leeds | hi |
| 02:53.09 | secretlondon | another ssl update |
| 02:54.28 | secretlondon | ssh even |
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| 04:01.53 | Discordian | Ping |
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| 07:15.22 | bilarh | morning |
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| 07:56.46 | axelS | ola |
| 07:57.17 | bilarh | axel |
| 07:57.48 | axelS | henrik |
| 07:57.50 | axelS | :) |
| 07:58.12 | bilarh | whassup G? |
| 07:59.05 | axelS | trying to establish an ssh tunnel to my server |
| 07:59.13 | axelS | i'm too bloody daft today |
| 07:59.29 | axelS | wassup with you mate? :) |
| 07:59.55 | bilarh | i'm too disgusted to have my breakfast now |
| 07:59.56 | bilarh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwgTvM1DtQo |
| 08:00.40 | axelS | lol |
| 08:01.28 | axelS | omgz |
| 08:01.32 | axelS | that's disgusting! |
| 08:01.38 | bilarh | at least he eats his greens, i suppose :) |
| 08:01.41 | axelS | *coughing |
| 08:01.52 | Provito | axelS, tunnel going ok? |
| 08:01.53 | axelS | talk of recyclin |
| 08:02.02 | axelS | Provito: no :/ |
| 08:02.22 | Provito | are you trying to tunnel a local port on the server to your local machine? |
| 08:02.32 | Provito | i.e ssh -L 9080:localhost:9080 remoteserver |
| 08:02.39 | axelS | should be: ssh -L <localport>:<server>:<remoteport> <sshuser>@<sshserver> |
| 08:02.49 | axelS | but i've got my ssh on a non-standard port |
| 08:02.58 | Provito | ok no problem just pass -p |
| 08:03.13 | Provito | or add it to your ssh config |
| 08:03.29 | axelS | tried: ssh -L <local>:<server>:<remoteport> -p 7743 <user>@<server> |
| 08:03.53 | axelS | that logs me into my remote box but not a tunnel |
| 08:04.05 | bilarh | ssh -v -v |
| 08:04.10 | axelS | goes to double check his sshd config |
| 08:04.14 | Provito | ok put in your exact line but change the hosts if you wish |
| 08:04.37 | bilarh | add verbosity, it will tell you why it can't establish a connection most of the time |
| 08:05.37 | axelS | well, it does - just not a tunnel - it only gives me a normal bash on the remote box |
| 08:05.39 | axelS | one sec |
| 08:06.05 | axelS | does "AllowTcpForwarding" have to be set to "yes" in the sshd_config? |
| 08:06.23 | bilarh | that would be good :) |
| 08:06.30 | axelS | ok |
| 08:06.48 | axelS | btw. i'm using: ssh -L 8888:server.com:3306 -p 7743 sysmonkey@server.com |
| 08:07.15 | Provito | ssh -L 8888:localhost:3306 -p 7743 sysmonkey@server.com |
| 08:07.29 | axelS | sorry, yes - d'oh |
| 08:07.33 | Provito | :P |
| 08:07.39 | axelS | haven't had enough coffee yet |
| 08:07.53 | bilarh | although server.com would work as well, i assume |
| 08:07.57 | Provito | check out localhost 888 and check that port 3306 from server.com is forwarding |
| 08:08.00 | bilarh | unless you're only listening on the loopback |
| 08:08.05 | axelS | argh |
| 08:08.07 | axelS | oh well... |
| 08:08.09 | axelS | bind: Address already in use |
| 08:08.09 | axelS | channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 8888 |
| 08:08.09 | axelS | Could not request local forwarding. |
| 08:08.18 | Provito | try a diff port then |
| 08:08.19 | bilarh | :D |
| 08:08.28 | Provito | ssh -L 8889:localhost:3306 -p 7743 sysmonkey@server.com |
| 08:08.34 | Provito | then go to localhost 8889 |
| 08:08.45 | axelS | ok, no errors |
| 08:09.21 | axelS | *hmms |
| 08:09.57 | Provito | what's up? |
| 08:11.28 | axelS | trying to connect to my remote sql server using cocoasql client for mac... via the tunnel |
| 08:11.38 | axelS | but the darn thing won't butch |
| 08:11.48 | Provito | if you telnet to localhost 8889 are you getting the sql header? |
| 08:12.38 | Provito | and double check on server.com that mysql is listening on 3306 and not simply using sockets |
| 08:13.19 | axelS | hmm... what i'm getting is this: |
| 08:13.20 | axelS | Jimmy-the-Saint:~ axel$ telnet localhost 8889 |
| 08:13.20 | axelS | Trying ::1... |
| 08:13.20 | axelS | Connected to localhost. |
| 08:13.20 | axelS | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 08:13.20 | axelS | 4 |
| 08:13.21 | axelS | 4.1.13)|CxRp^hl,hD[}%=BtC/b!Connection closed by foreign host. |
| 08:13.23 | axelS | Jimmy-the-Saint:~ axel$ |
| 08:13.39 | Provito | ok so the tunnel is working then |
| 08:13.42 | axelS | 4.1.13 corresponds with my remote mysql version |
| 08:13.49 | axelS | so that's fine then :D |
| 08:14.00 | Provito | what about just trying the mysql client |
| 08:15.01 | axelS | you mean without a gui? |
| 08:15.12 | Provito | yep |
| 08:15.14 | axelS | that would be horrible - i'm a mac user you know! :p |
| 08:15.32 | Provito | heh, fire up a shell and do it! |
| 08:15.36 | axelS | :) |
| 08:15.39 | Provito | mysql -u user -p |
| 08:16.01 | axelS | yep, err- |
| 08:16.06 | axelS | not installed.. |
| 08:16.08 | axelS | grrr |
| 08:16.29 | axelS | i have to remember that i still need to install all the software again since the reinstall last month |
| 08:20.28 | axelS | barks at his inability to perform even the simplest tasks this morning |
| 08:20.39 | axelS | hey Provito, bilarh .. thanks for the guidance |
| 08:20.41 | ChoHag | Sleep is a simple task. |
| 08:20.53 | axelS | will have some coffee now and wake myself up... |
| 08:20.55 | axelS | :) |
| 08:20.57 | Provito | axelS, np, I recomend a SSS before starting work btw |
| 08:21.03 | axelS | i think i slept too much |
| 08:21.08 | axelS | lol |
| 08:33.42 | ChoHag | I'm reading some random article on pikiwedia in lieu of doing actual work and - how can an article talk about a person's family and refer to him only with his surname? |
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| 09:10.28 | ChoHag | Programmer is fascinated by the other admin's java process memory usage over time graph. |
| 09:13.14 | ChoHag | And doesn't understand swap. |
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| 09:29.47 | bilarh | anyone been to dahab in egypt? |
| 09:30.01 | Blapto | bilarh: millions of people |
| 09:30.08 | etorix | no, whereabouts is it |
| 09:30.25 | bilarh | blapto: i meant anyone online in #gllug :) |
| 09:30.29 | Blapto | :P |
| 09:30.29 | bilarh | etorix: egypt, red sea |
| 09:30.59 | etorix | i bin as far down as ghardaia |
| 09:31.18 | etorix | on that coast |
| 09:31.45 | bilarh | how about hurghada? |
| 09:31.53 | etorix | thats it |
| 09:31.58 | bilarh | ah was it any good? |
| 09:32.02 | etorix | same same |
| 09:32.18 | bilarh | i went to sharm last year and it sucked to be honest |
| 09:32.20 | etorix | it was ok, apart from the fucking sharp coral |
| 09:32.26 | bilarh | but i need to go again for diving |
| 09:32.38 | etorix | diving should be cool |
| 09:32.47 | bilarh | sharm itself was a bloody toilet |
| 09:32.49 | etorix | just dont stand up |
| 09:33.17 | bilarh | that's why i was looking at dahab because i *think* that it's slightly less exploited than sharm, as egyptians actually live there too :) |
| 09:34.44 | etorix | long time ago now tho, no clue what its like currently |
| 09:35.18 | bilarh | interestingly, thomson seem cheaper than first choice |
| 09:36.54 | bilarh | last time i looked it was the other way around |
| 10:23.50 | ChoHag | Wtf? |
| 10:24.17 | ChoHag | Can't afford a run-of-the-mill box for testing stuff. |
| 10:31.48 | ChoHag | That is - the company I work for which deals in loaning the premium to insurance borkers can't afford a run-of-the-mill box. |
| 10:32.01 | ChoHag | Ironically, if they got it for me, I might not be wasting my entire salary on IRC. |
| 10:32.47 | wethrin | Nice. But a PC costs approximately fuck-all these days |
| 10:33.02 | wethrin | About a day's wage to contract filth |
| 10:33.15 | ChoHag | My thoughts exactly. |
| 10:33.31 | ChoHag | Even sticking it in a rack-mountable case isn't exactly going to hurt. |
| 10:33.47 | wethrin | Mmm |
| 10:33.52 | wethrin | The case would be another day's wage |
| 10:33.53 | ChoHag | Not to mention the fact that they have decommissioned boxes sitting in the rack, powered up, doing bugger all. |
| 10:33.58 | wethrin | Well |
| 10:34.00 | wethrin | Use one of those, then |
| 10:34.08 | ChoHag | Instead I'm going to get a vmware instance. |
| 10:34.19 | wethrin | Ugh |
| 10:34.26 | wethrin | They're not providing you with appropriate tools for the job |
| 10:34.58 | ChoHag | Not even close. |
| 10:35.25 | ChoHag | I've only managed to get a Linux desktop by sneaking my way onto the toybox of one of the DBAs. |
| 10:35.37 | wethrin | PLay with andLinux? |
| 10:35.40 | antiphase | Sounds like you need to get a different job |
| 10:35.47 | ChoHag | And internet access requires using putty as a socks server. |
| 10:35.49 | ChoHag | I do. |
| 10:35.51 | ChoHag | I intend to find one. |
| 10:36.02 | wethrin | Didn't you jsut start a few weeks ago? |
| 10:36.12 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 10:36.29 | ChoHag | I only actually accepted this job because I was getting married and needed a guaranteed salary fast. |
| 10:36.34 | wethrin | mm |
| 10:36.45 | ChoHag | Otherwise I'd have gone running when the IT team leader wrote me an email in Notes. |
| 10:36.51 | wethrin | heh |
| 10:36.58 | wethrin | Notes is sadly a necessary part in many organisations |
| 10:37.03 | ChoHag | Actually it wouldn't have got that far because in the 2nd interview I was told I'd be using W2K. |
| 10:37.25 | ChoHag | Unfortunately true. |
| 10:37.43 | wethrin | But Notes doesn't necessarily inhibit your ability to do your work |
| 10:37.52 | ChoHag | No. It doesn't. |
| 10:38.18 | ChoHag | It is utterly shit though. |
| 10:38.29 | wethrin | Yes, but that's a different issue |
| 10:38.32 | ChoHag | Frankly I prefer exchange/outlook. |
| 10:38.36 | wethrin | Ew |
| 10:38.38 | wethrin | I don't |
| 10:38.46 | ChoHag | Using, not running. |
| 10:38.50 | wethrin | Notes is okay as a small database system |
| 10:38.56 | wethrin | It just sucks as an email client |
| 10:39.26 | ChoHag | This is true, actually. |
| 10:39.39 | ChoHag | Last place I worked I stopped its handling of email and left it for the DB stuff. |
| 10:39.42 | wethrin | What version of Notes do you have? |
| 10:39.52 | ChoHag | 7. |
| 10:39.58 | ChoHag | Not sure what the server's running. |
| 10:40.08 | wethrin | Mm...."Reply with Internet Quoting" |
| 10:40.14 | antiphase | Outlook is similarly horrible for mail |
| 10:40.15 | wethrin | Should make it vaguely sane, then |
| 10:40.37 | wethrin | antiphase: The university here is encouraging everyone to move over to Exchange |
| 10:40.47 | wethrin | Mostly because the management are a bunch of cockmuppets |
| 10:40.50 | antiphase | Excahnge is fine, but Outlook is poor for email |
| 10:41.03 | Blapto | Yeah, Exchange is quite good actually |
| 10:41.03 | wethrin | Neither are the right tool for the job in a university environment |
| 10:41.10 | antiphase | Pine! |
| 10:41.13 | Blapto | And Outlook is alright. |
| 10:41.30 | antiphase | Outlook fails at threading, so it is not alright at all |
| 10:41.30 | Blapto | IMAP over SSL to the exchange server here for me :) |
| 10:41.55 | wethrin | I don't think our exchange servers even have imap enabled |
| 10:42.10 | Blapto | Well, I run Outlook in a VM on my dev VMWare Server (well, a box on my desk) It can thrash away all it likes. |
| 10:43.39 | ChoHag | I prefer Gnus myself. |
| 10:43.46 | ChoHag | hugs emacs |
| 10:44.13 | wethrin | I tried using rmail for a bit. I ended up going back to mutt. Now I'm using Thunderbird (for my university email) |
| 10:44.18 | ChoHag | It's like a big cuddly bear with everything up to a dishwasher. |
| 10:54.07 | antiphase | The only Emacs I know is C-x C-c |
| 10:56.52 | wethrin | It's an important keystroke |
| 11:01.52 | ChoHag | Almost as important as M-! |
| 11:04.17 | ChoHag | lol @ ubersoft: "It's probably part of some dastardly and nefarious scheme." "A shorter word for that is 'software'." |
| 11:45.40 | gregj | :D |
| 11:48.58 | etorix | http://www.bloomsburyauctions.com/news |
| 11:49.11 | etorix | Einstein Letter |
| 11:49.30 | etorix | im not bidding |
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| 12:24.56 | ChoHag | Thank you, Windows, for telling me that caps lock might be on but not that you've switched keyboard layouts on me. |
| 12:48.47 | dick_turpin | MS has money to burn, they sent an empty box to me from Germany. Its been to Watford, Barking then to me in the Midlands |
| 12:49.34 | ChoHag | People have apparently complained about my choice of desktop background (which I changed accidentally and is only visible when logging in and unlocking the screen, before it's covered up with the corporate bleugh). |
| 12:49.35 | dick_turpin | Its now on its way back to Germany with my X360 |
| 12:49.43 | ChoHag | Though naturally not to my face. |
| 12:49.56 | wethrin | ChoHag: What do you have? A pole dancer? |
| 12:50.00 | ChoHag | It's that picture someone took of a bus-stop advert about 'the watchful eyes'. |
| 12:50.07 | wethrin | Oh |
| 12:51.03 | ChoHag | I do love politics. |
| 12:51.31 | wethrin | "We're IT. It's our job to know" |
| 12:57.24 | ChoHag | Heh. |
| 13:02.05 | bilarh | dick_turpin! |
| 13:02.14 | bilarh | dick_turpin: how do you like your eee now that you've had it for a while? |
| 13:02.42 | antiphase | I use mine for watching porn in bed |
| 13:03.02 | bilarh | isnt' the screen a bit too small for that? |
| 13:03.09 | bilarh | i prefer my porn in 42" wide screen |
| 13:03.20 | antiphase | 9" is enough for anyone |
| 13:03.31 | ChoHag | At the moment I've changed it to http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/rotsnake.gif |
| 13:04.45 | wethrin | ChoHag: Change it to an Escher picture, and confuse their little brains |
| 13:07.33 | dick_turpin | bilarh: What you on about? I don't own one yet :-( |
| 13:07.44 | bilarh | dick_turpin: ah i thought you got yourself one |
| 13:08.16 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Na gonna have one for crimble I think the 900 |
| 13:09.21 | Cope | antiphase: 42" would just hurt |
| 13:10.32 | bilarh | cope: it does actually... when i step on it by accident :( |
| 13:11.16 | bilarh | hmm i seem to be getting a new type of spam |
| 13:11.41 | bilarh | one with text such as "It will make your penis bigger and erection more intensive. http://"\ |
| 13:11.44 | bilarh | but no actual link |
| 13:11.55 | bilarh | wtf is the point of that, is it purely to fill up my inbox or what? |
| 13:12.08 | wethrin | http://.....oh soddit, I'm too excited to finish typing the rest! |
| 13:12.36 | Blapto | Perhaps it was removed by a really smart filter? |
| 13:13.28 | bilarh | hmm, my mailscanner didn't do it |
| 13:32.07 | bilarh | classic |
| 13:32.16 | bilarh | there i am, sat in my chair reading about swingers |
| 13:32.23 | bilarh | and some really hot bird walks in and wants it support |
| 13:32.26 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:32.26 | bilarh | of course, i spot her too late |
| 13:32.28 | bilarh | *sigh* |
| 13:32.30 | wethrin | HA |
| 13:32.34 | wethrin | So she saw you reading it? |
| 13:32.39 | bilarh | quite possibly |
| 13:32.42 | wethrin | HA |
| 13:32.48 | bilarh | the font is not *huge*, but maybe :P |
| 13:32.57 | bilarh | the picture in the top left corner is a give-away |
| 13:32.59 | yaarg | haha |
| 13:33.12 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:33.28 | bilarh | awaits his p45 |
| 13:34.37 | Blapto | You need a tech explanatino |
| 13:34.41 | Blapto | explanation |
| 13:34.55 | Blapto | It would be a shame to lose a job where you can read about swingers instead of working |
| 13:35.05 | bilarh | i'll just invent a ticket where the boss couldnt' access some site because some dns issue |
| 13:35.13 | bilarh | but as i've just proved, the site works fine for me so it msut be his pc |
| 13:35.16 | yaarg | heh |
| 13:37.03 | wethrin | Testing out the new filtering proxy, and found it failed |
| 13:39.31 | hali | bluecoat ftw when it comes to content filtering |
| 13:39.53 | Blapto | Content filtering is flawed |
| 13:40.02 | bilarh | wethrin: good one, i'm going with that :) |
| 13:40.05 | z00dax | content filtering ? what! are we all moving to China ? |
| 13:40.08 | Blapto | If I want to see porn, I will, because I don't really care *which* porn. |
| 13:40.10 | z00dax | or is China taking over the world ? |
| 13:40.14 | Blapto | And there's so many mirrors/google cache, etc. |
| 13:40.18 | wethrin | Blapto: Hardware porn? |
| 13:40.23 | Blapto | Yes please |
| 13:40.28 | Blapto | Return my DVDs when you can as well |
| 13:40.28 | hali | we filter mostly to avoid old ladies getting filthy hits in google images |
| 13:40.52 | hali | and we block google cache as "proxy advoidance" |
| 13:41.10 | hali | and all other, to bluecoat, known proxy networks |
| 13:41.30 | Blapto | ssh -D :) |
| 13:41.43 | Blapto | Basically, people can get around it, almost always |
| 13:41.47 | Blapto | But occasionally, they can't |
| 13:41.56 | hali | no users have access to anything extneral |
| 13:42.00 | Blapto | Which is rarely going to be something they shouldn't see, and often something that's been blocked by mistake |
| 13:42.02 | hali | but sure, there are always ways around it |
| 13:42.41 | hali | we don't allow external ssh or rdp or anything like that, no default NAT |
| 13:43.01 | hali | the biggest "problem" is how much you can do over SSL these days |
| 13:43.24 | bilarh | proxy filtering sucks anyway, i don't want to work for a company that does stuff like that |
| 13:43.30 | bilarh | it's like a vote of mistrust imo |
| 13:43.50 | bilarh | internet surfing works both ways for me |
| 13:44.01 | bilarh | if i have anything to do that is work related, i'll do that first |
| 13:44.11 | bilarh | if i haven't, then what's the problem with me surfing slashdot or whatever |
| 13:44.27 | Blapto | Do you allow external ping or dns? |
| 13:44.28 | hali | thats not why we block |
| 13:44.31 | hali | no |
| 13:44.38 | wethrin | bilarh: Because some people surf slashdot instead of working? |
| 13:44.52 | hali | we block to avoid viruses and to avoid people suing the company when they get porn popups etc |
| 13:44.55 | bilarh | wethrin: well talk to them in that case and give them a warning -> dismissal in that case |
| 13:45.07 | wethrin | bilarh: It's what I'd do |
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| 13:45.17 | hali | if a person googles for something, and hits a website with porn popups .. in the US they can sue the company for sexual yada yada |
| 13:45.26 | wethrin | The US is broken, though |
| 13:45.31 | bilarh | hali: and that's fucked up as well, that you could sue a company because you've fucked up and got a virus on your pc that displays a porn popup :) |
| 13:45.32 | hali | and we have the same policy company wide |
| 13:45.44 | hali | yes |
| 13:45.53 | hali | actually our US office is worse :) |
| 13:46.00 | bilarh | what a way to run the world, eh? |
| 13:46.32 | hali | all switch ports are blocked by default and can only be enabled by the netlogon protcol, and the netlogon client they use check so that the pc has got full anti-virus and is windows updated and all that crap |
| 13:46.38 | ChoHag | They'll take over one frivolous lawsuit at a time. |
| 13:46.42 | hali | you can't even get dhcp until that thing has checked your pc |
| 13:47.06 | hali | great for non-windows users |
| 13:47.20 | hali | but it's good to stop random people from hooking up unpatched windows vista laptops |
| 13:47.35 | hali | their vpn uses the same software |
| 14:14.58 | ChoHag | tar xjf boudiccas |
| 14:15.10 | ChoHag | oops. |
| 14:15.56 | ChoHag | Maybe he (she?) doesn't want to be unzipped. |
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| 14:32.11 | boudiccas | no, she doesn't :) |
| 14:33.06 | bilarh | don't be so uptight |
| 14:33.40 | boudiccas | me! uptight??? i'm so laid back i'm virtually horizontal! |
| 14:33.58 | bilarh | :) |
| 14:34.12 | Provito | any experienced flash developers looking for any work at the mo, if so then message me |
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| 14:34.45 | boudiccas | Provito; define 'expereinced' please |
| 14:34.59 | Discordian | Good afternoon |
| 14:35.07 | Provito | able to actually code as3 and use source code revision rather than layer 2 warriors as I like to call them |
| 14:35.21 | boudiccas | ah, fair enough |
| 14:35.32 | Provito | they need to have experience of mx remoting and ablitity to understand some server interaction |
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| 15:43.14 | cpufreak | anyone know any php people |
| 15:43.19 | cpufreak | friend is asking me the following.. |
| 15:43.21 | cpufreak | Fiona: andy do you know any php contractors that have mvc exp - iv basically been left up shit creek coz someone pulled out of my contract for 2moro!? |
| 15:44.18 | AndyMillar | mvc? so basically ruby-for-php? |
| 15:44.30 | cpufreak | I guess so |
| 15:44.32 | cpufreak | I don't know php |
| 15:45.22 | AndyMillar | well, ruby on rails being a framework thingie |
| 15:46.33 | AndyMillar | and if experience means "has played with when bored" then yes :p |
| 15:49.40 | cpufreak | can you do a contract tomorrow? |
| 15:50.55 | AndyMillar | ah shit, no :( |
| 15:51.08 | AndyMillar | is in newcastle as of tomorrow morning |
| 15:51.36 | AndyMillar | wonders if he knows anyone |
| 15:51.42 | wethrin | I'm near Newcastle |
| 15:55.45 | ChoHag | You poor soul. |
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| 16:56.35 | Discordian | Re |
| 17:39.48 | etorix | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5404/tcv80ipepkza7.jpg |
| 17:40.19 | Blapto | They could at least give credit |
| 17:40.33 | Blapto | http://www.xkcd.com/221/ |
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| 17:45.10 | Facundo | which one is the original? |
| 17:46.24 | etorix | http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2996/pmeo9hcjp7aw9.jpg |
| 17:46.42 | etorix | haha, are they xkcd |
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| 19:21.19 | Discordian | Re |
| 19:21.29 | boudiccas | rehi Discordian |
| 19:21.35 | Discordian | is getting to like Fedora 9 |
| 19:21.42 | Discordian | Hi Boudiccas |
| 19:21.52 | boudiccas | hiyas |
| 19:22.56 | Discordian | I think the only gotcha is it's firefox 3 beta 5 |
| 19:24.44 | boudiccas | i dont like the roundabout of fedora, thats why i stick with centos |
| 19:27.21 | Discordian | Well the next centos will be a similar sea-change I guess |
| 19:28.18 | Discordian | I've even got freeview running under kaffeine too |
| 20:26.37 | Cope | evening |
| 20:27.30 | hali | evening |
| 20:28.14 | Discordian | lO |
| 20:28.17 | Discordian | Lo |
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| 21:30.09 | Discordian | enjoys Fedora 9 |
| 21:44.11 | z00dax | its quite nice isnt it |
| 21:44.25 | Discordian | Yeah |
| 21:44.51 | Discordian | Got oracle, matlab, maple and loads of stuff working |
| 21:44.51 | z00dax | its fedora 11 I'm keeping an eye on :D |
| 21:45.04 | z00dax | matlab ? you mean R ? |
| 21:45.07 | z00dax | or matlab itself |
| 21:45.18 | Discordian | 11 is someway off |
| 21:45.23 | Discordian | Real matlab |
| 21:45.38 | Discordian | installing R at the moment |
| 21:46.53 | Discordian | I was pleased to find aplus APL in the repos |
| 21:47.01 | z00dax | also, someone needs to tell the BBC propaganda machine that its not called Burma anymore |
| 21:47.14 | Discordian | Lol |
| 21:47.47 | Discordian | Firefox 3 annoys me though |
| 21:48.15 | z00dax | I quite like it |
| 21:48.28 | Discordian | No google sync for it yet |
| 21:48.30 | z00dax | its much faster than ff1.5 engine, and i like the search from location bar |
| 21:48.48 | z00dax | whats google sync ? |
| 21:49.33 | Discordian | Syncs bookmarks etc |
| 21:49.42 | z00dax | http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/ ? |
| 21:49.48 | Discordian | useful if you use more than one machine |
| 21:49.48 | z00dax | sounds like a privacy nightmare |
| 21:50.06 | Discordian | You can encrypt what they store |
| 21:51.01 | Discordian | And yay R and maxima are now installed |
| 21:54.22 | Cope | cpufreak: ping |
| 21:58.15 | cpufreak | hey |
| 21:58.56 | Discordian | Now to do Oracle 11G , I have 10 working |
| 21:59.24 | Cope | cpufreak: you guys use wackamole don't you? |
| 21:59.37 | cpufreak | not anymore. |
| 21:59.41 | Cope | ah! |
| 21:59.42 | cpufreak | haven't for about a year |
| 22:00.03 | Cope | is designing a geographic failover solution |
| 22:04.10 | cpufreak | have you heard of "GSLB" ? |
| 22:10.56 | cpufreak | its kinda designed for the purpose |
| 22:12.14 | Cope | yeah i've implemented it before |
| 22:12.37 | Cope | it's ok.... but has some flaws |
| 22:13.11 | Cope | i'm thinking of dns + bgp serving multiple a records kind of approach |
| 22:16.02 | cpufreak | ah yeh |
| 22:16.05 | cpufreak | annicast it |
| 22:16.16 | Cope | exaclty |
| 22:20.50 | cpufreak | er |
| 22:20.52 | cpufreak | anycast |
| 22:21.05 | cpufreak | I can't believe I misspelt that so badly |
| 22:21.36 | Cope | i knew what you meant :) |
| 22:21.58 | Cope | and exaclty was pretty retarded typing too |
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| 22:38.34 | Cope | cpufreak: have you done it before? |
| 22:40.05 | Cope | anycast dns servers and have them serve geographically relevant ips? |
| 22:43.09 | cpufreak | yes |
| 22:43.28 | cpufreak | so on the dns servers, we ran quagga, runing ospfd |
| 22:43.37 | cpufreak | brought up a /32 bound to lo:1 |
| 22:43.39 | cpufreak | for the ip |
| 22:43.44 | cpufreak | quagga injected that |
| 22:43.59 | cpufreak | into the ospf tables, on each box |
| 22:44.01 | cpufreak | and then bgp did the rest |
| 22:44.09 | Cope | neat |
| 22:44.13 | Cope | where was that? |
| 22:44.43 | cpufreak | here |
| 22:44.51 | Cope | cool |
| 22:45.25 | Cope | did you design that? or a network dude? |
| 22:52.06 | Cope | ok bed for me |
| 22:52.07 | Cope | :) |
| 22:52.11 | Cope | nn all |
| 22:53.01 | wethrin | nn Cope |
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