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03:10.30DiscordianOh dear oh dear
03:10.52DiscordianThere's much trouble in Fedora land
03:15.30Leedsoh no!
03:16.06Discordianyet fedora 9 works for me happilly
03:16.28Discordianand i have oracle, matlab, etc workinh
03:17.55DiscordianOTOH hand i do know what I'm doinh
03:17.59Discordiandoing
03:22.42DiscordianSome of these people need a thwap with a cluestick
03:23.02Discordianand some shouldn't be allowed near computers
03:26.27LeedsI have a slackware 12.1 and an ubuntu 8.04 here
03:27.43Discordiani run fedora, opensolaris, xp, vista, ubuntu, f7,f8,f9 and freebsd 6.1 on various boxes in this room
03:29.57Leedswe only have 8 or so machines here
03:30.47Discordianthat's three laptops in my front room lol
03:31.30Leedsright now, that's a slackware 12.1, a slackware 10.2, an ubuntu 8.04, two Xandros (eee PCs), a xebian (debian-on-xbox), another Slackware 11ish, and an XP
03:31.59DiscordianI'll worry about the desktops over the weekend
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07:32.31bilarhmorning
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08:22.49blightMornin
08:24.09haliyo
08:26.59ChoHagSomebody has written a script to be run by cron which contains a function calling nail to report errors.
08:29.06ChoHagThat seems ... odd.
08:30.26blightnail?
08:47.37z00daxnail is good
08:47.47z00daxChoHag: whats odd aboit it ?
08:49.05z00daxblight: nail is a good cli email sending app, main adv for me is that it handles attachments etc quite well
08:55.29blightz00dax: oh okay
09:10.47ChoHagWhy use a non-standard programme to send an email when printing to stdout is quite sufficient?
09:11.31ChoHagIt seems misguided to me.
09:11.49z00daxsounds like a question to ask the author
09:12.16z00daxalthough i would imagine that script started life as a non cron jobbie
09:12.35ChoHagHe is no longer employed.
09:16.20z00daxok, gotta goto work time
09:16.27BlaptoStop using goto
09:18.21ChoHagNothing wrong with goto.
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09:43.59DiscordianMorning
09:44.25blightDiscordian: mornin
09:52.44bilarhlol ace fancy dress costume: http://roissy.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/absolution.jpg
09:52.48bilarhthe dude on the left
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11:36.18secretlondonhi
11:36.54BlaptoHi
11:40.38bilarhafternoon
11:41.20dick_turpinbilarh: !
11:41.33bilarhwhat up, turpin?
11:42.03dick_turpinbilarh: I assure you there's nothing up me :-P
11:42.32bilarhdid you extract the "rubber implement"?
11:43.01dick_turpinYeah, I take it you need it back?
11:43.19bilarhnah keep it, i need a bigger one
11:43.23dick_turpinI'm an RPM kinda guy :-)
11:43.34dick_turpinoops!
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11:56.50DiscordianAt least now I have leccy for the weekend
11:56.56ChoHagRPM is some sort of rubber implement?
11:57.05ChoHagDoes that explain why I dislike suse so?
11:57.42DiscordianYay for rpm and yum
11:57.51Discordianhates Suse though
11:58.31ChoHagI will persuade them to change where feasible (ie. not the Oracle servers I think)
11:58.34ChoHagAnyway.
11:58.34ChoHaglunches
11:58.34bilarhhali: hello?
11:59.12DiscordianOracle works happily enough on RHEL/centos/fedora
11:59.32Blapto<PROTECTED>
12:00.33DiscordianIndeed
12:00.51DiscordianI ;like opensolaris a lot
12:02.38dick_turpinbilarh: How'd you like your new Mayor then? Missing Ken yet?
12:03.37bilarhdick_turpin: it's great, i don't get worked up into a rage every morning now, like i did before reading about ken's stupid ideas
12:04.01dick_turpinbilarh: Give it time
12:04.31bilarhhopefully boris isn't *as* fascist as that tosser ken at least
12:04.38BlaptoHATES bendy buses
12:04.41bilarhbut let's be honest, things can only improve from ken
12:04.47BlaptoWhy don't they just get the bendy bus
12:04.48bilarhnails his colours to the mast
12:04.50BlaptoTake the back bit
12:04.54BlaptoPut it on top of the front bit
12:04.59Blaptoand put a staircase between them
12:05.13BlaptoSame seating capacity, half as much space on the road used!  Great!
12:05.39bilarhblapto: exactly, it sucks overtaking those bendy busses when i'm out driving in my car
12:05.50dick_turpinbilarh: While I no longer live down there Ken always gave me the feeling he was passionate about London
12:05.57BlaptoAnd they make life so much harder for pedestrians
12:05.58bilarhalmost every time i have to run over a pedestrian because they don't get out of the way fast enough
12:06.08halibilarh: hello?
12:06.10bilarhit was better before, when pedestrians knew their place
12:06.10BlaptoHalf the time, the back half of a bendy bus is over the crossing I want to use
12:06.28bilarhhali: hey sexy, whatcha doin tomorrow?
12:06.54halibilarh: hm, not sure
12:07.07bilarhdick_turpin: passionate about fucking everyone up the arse
12:07.29bilarhhali: starbucks / beer / soho thai / lahores in the evening?
12:07.37halibilarh: ack, sounds good
12:07.40bilarhlahores is a restaurant, before anyone starts
12:07.51bilarhat least that's what i keep telling my wife
12:08.10haliyes, the red light in the window is just a theme thing
12:08.34bilarhi quite fancy bodeans actually
12:08.37bilarhhas the city branch opened yet?
12:08.43halinot that i know of
12:08.47halithe soho one is good though
12:08.50bilarhah :(
12:08.53bilarhbut always full
12:09.11Blaptolahore is very good
12:09.17BlaptoTayyab is nice too, if you haven't been there yet
12:09.21bilarhhow posh is it, though?
12:09.27Blaptotayyab?
12:09.30halitayyab is in whitechapel though
12:09.32bilarhno lahores
12:09.35halii live 5 mins from in it
12:09.39bilarhi *think* i've een there
12:09.41bilarhbut i'm not sure
12:09.42Blaptolahores isn't posh at all
12:09.50Blaptowell, there are 3 of them, I think
12:09.52bilarhis it that thing that looks a bit like a school diner?
12:10.03halino, thats waggamama
12:10.07bilarhdown the side street from one of the dodgiest looking "bigger" roads i've ever seen?
12:10.18bilarhwhite tiles on the floor?
12:10.21Blaptobilarh: you're being very vague
12:10.29BlaptoWhat food did you have in there?
12:10.35haliwell, i remember there being a floor
12:10.37bilarhi don't know... someone else ordered :)
12:10.41BlaptoLahore is Indian..
12:10.45BlaptoWell, what did you eat?
12:10.45bilarhall sorts of stuff
12:10.47bilarhyeah yeah of course :)
12:10.59bilarhnan's, poppadoms, loads of skewers with meat etc
12:11.00BlaptoAnd Wagamama is japanese
12:11.06BlaptoSo not wagamama
12:11.12bilarhno that's what i'm saying
12:11.15bilarhi think it was lahores
12:11.17bilarhbut i'm not sure
12:11.29bilarhit's not on brick lane, right?
12:11.35halino
12:11.39bilarhbut a lot further to the east
12:12.34Blaptoyes
12:12.36hali'loads of skewers' sounds like tayyeb
12:12.51halitheir speciality is bbq skewers
12:12.52BlaptoTayyab, you wouldn't notice what colour the floor was
12:12.56BlaptoIt's too dark :)
12:13.01bilarhok it wasn't that then :)
12:13.02BlaptoLamb chops in there are fantastic
12:17.37secretlondonthe problem with upstairs on buses is that no-ones uses it - that's where you get feral children
12:17.53bilarhsecretlondon: easy, ban children from using the buses
12:17.58DiscordianI hate upstairs on buses
12:18.10bilarhi hate children
12:18.33DiscordianBut downstairs is fine
12:18.34bilarhdoes his best to provide balanced arguements
12:18.50secretlondonI never go upstairs
12:18.53Blaptobilarh was born aged 32
12:19.19Discordianwishes the PDA would pick up the wifi
12:19.22bilarhwhy don't you go upstairs, though?
12:19.30bilarhthere's always loads of seats
12:19.45secretlondonthe stairs, the hassle, the wankers
12:19.47DiscordianI hate heights
12:19.51secretlondondownstairs much better
12:19.58bilarhand the kids seem to be more interested in stabbing themselves than others anyway
12:20.08bilarhsecretlondon: fair enough
12:51.18ChoHagThe Windows Perl motto: It's just as well there's more than one way to do it because most of them don't work.                                                                                                                    
12:51.22ChoHag-- Simon Cozens                                                                                                                                          
12:51.36bilarhchohag: hehe
12:51.41antiphaselollercaust
12:53.48haliis a total MS bitch busy installing Office Sharepoint server 2007
12:54.45ChoHaghali: Someone has a more unpleasant job than mine?
12:55.57halithis bit ss quite crap actually, usually ok
12:56.04haliit was fun to play a bit with SQL Server 2005
12:57.26halinow im struggling with .NET framework :/
12:57.36halisp2007 requires both 3.0 and 2.0 to be installed
12:57.54halisp is a pretty cool bit of portal software though
12:57.57halieven works great in firefox
13:01.10Discordianuggh sharepoint
13:04.17haliit's come a long way since 2003
13:04.20hali2007 is ok
13:04.24halieven got a decent BI module
13:06.18Discordiantwas a menace back in 2003/4
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14:34.27ChoHagMS software always is at first.
14:34.31BlaptoSharepoint 2003 made me cry
14:34.54Discordianheh
14:35.14ChoHagAnd rather than people saying "sod off, I'm not paying for this shit until it works properly", which seems to be the norm with OSS, they happily shell out $$$ so that they can shell out more $$$ when it's written properly^Wbetter.
14:35.30Discordianhehe
14:48.48Discordianhmmm now have vmware working under fedora
14:55.23LeedsI seem to be getting along quite well with kvm and (k)qemu nowadays
14:58.41Discordiannot used those yet
14:58.51Discordiandone vmware and xen
15:06.28ChoHagqemu is nice, but a little pc-centric.
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17:43.54secretlondonis still waiting for the curry
17:49.34secretlondonthe curry is wonderful but the delivery desperately slow
18:08.24secretlondon+curry now
18:08.43secretlondonordered at 5.30 btw, took them 90 mins
18:10.02secretlondonsuppose it means they made it all fresh
18:10.17secretlondonas I ordered the minute they opened
18:11.00etorixhmm .. i should take up doing that
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19:10.15Discordianyay for vmware
19:20.28DiscordianI feel like #fedora is 7th circle of the inferno
19:20.53DiscordianThey're all damned
19:59.35ChoHagWoohoo!
19:59.37ChoHagInternet@home.
20:12.50ChoHagOf course there's no-one bloody here to share in my exultation.
21:04.38secretlondongood night
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23:24.20Nafallohali: ?
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