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01:20.40 | Discordian | Lol |
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10:13.29 | morsing | curson! |
10:15.32 | curson | morning. |
10:54.01 | morsing | Is it illegal to shoot starlings? |
11:02.39 | etorix | someone shot him? |
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12:53.44 | DiscordianUK | Afternoon |
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14:07.45 | DiscordianUK | lo |
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14:45.26 | rusvelt | good afternoon to everybody |
14:46.46 | wethrin | hi |
14:49.36 | boudiccas | afternoon rusvelt |
14:53.19 | bilarh | aftrnoon |
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15:49.16 | DiscordianUK | Re |
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16:25.59 | DiscordianUK | FFS OLPC have abandoned Linux |
16:28.34 | wethrin | They using Windows instead? |
16:29.26 | etorix | that projects bin a bit messy from the start |
16:30.43 | antiphase | Not really surprising considering the profile of it |
16:30.49 | DiscordianUK | Xp yeah |
16:32.51 | dick_turpin | I'm disgusted I agreed with the OLPC concept when it first came on the scene |
16:33.13 | DiscordianUK | the technology is innovative |
16:33.57 | wethrin | Yeah. Pity they used 6-year-olds to design the thing |
16:34.18 | DiscordianUK | i'd have bought one |
16:36.53 | antiphase | It's not bad for a first attempt. Design by committee is never good, and I think they'll be superseded by something that isn't shit quite soon |
16:37.26 | antiphase | Who cares what runs on it; it's better than counting with an abacus |
16:37.59 | DiscordianUK | lol |
16:38.04 | antiphase | Microsoft will have to diversify into something other than commercial software eventually like all the other companies are doing already because they haven't got the same clout |
16:38.10 | DiscordianUK | Never had one of those |
17:03.19 | catalyst | antiphase: I think they should perhaps design, build and sell games consoles, don't you? ;) |
17:08.08 | antiphase | I think they probably already did that for a laugh |
17:10.00 | dick_turpin | If you means the Xbox 360 its a bag of crap, my replacement unit is on its way back to Germany with the famous 3 red rings |
17:10.05 | dick_turpin | mean |
17:12.11 | DiscordianUK | Xbox 360 would be fun it could run Linux |
17:12.30 | DiscordianUK | Or OS X |
17:13.36 | dick_turpin | But the hardware is crap it keeps going tits up so even with Linux on it would last about six months |
17:14.03 | DiscordianUK | Sounds bad |
17:15.03 | dick_turpin | my brother in-law has had 4 die on him and I know loads of others all with the 3 red rings |
17:16.52 | DiscordianUK | Shame |
17:17.04 | DiscordianUK | The CPU spec is nice enough |
17:18.14 | dick_turpin | I have no idea what spec they are, I'm not a gamer, I only play Halo its my wifes box |
17:18.41 | DiscordianUK | triple core PPC as I understand it |
17:18.57 | DiscordianUK | I don't have one |
17:19.14 | dick_turpin | neither do I at the minute |
17:20.12 | DiscordianUK | Whereas as PS3 is single core with 6 service processors or someg |
17:20.24 | DiscordianUK | something |
17:25.22 | z00dax | 7 |
17:25.56 | z00dax | the cell on it is capable of 8, they just turn off the 8th if all 8 work, or use all 7 if the 8th one fails. |
17:26.06 | DiscordianUK | isn't one devoted to stopping you running X? |
17:26.20 | z00dax | so higher waffer -> production yield since a non functional core does not mean the cpu is wasted |
17:26.31 | z00dax | running X ? |
17:26.34 | z00dax | X works fine |
17:26.46 | z00dax | I get 30fps or so in Xine at 720p |
17:26.56 | DiscordianUK | I thought it was slowed down |
17:27.08 | z00dax | its a framebuffer, yes, but its a hardware framebuffer |
17:27.13 | DiscordianUK | Not that I can afford a PS3 |
17:27.26 | z00dax | although work is on for getting direct nvidia interface access, some people have got it working |
17:28.04 | DiscordianUK | I've happily run X on x86 frame buffers |
17:28.15 | DiscordianUK | Indeed athene does that |
17:31.16 | DiscordianUK | There's stj.. |
17:31.36 | DiscordianUK | There's still much comedy on #fedora |
17:36.00 | jdavies | long live the havoc that is #ubuntu .. |
17:36.14 | AndyMillar | heh |
17:36.21 | AndyMillar | i'm avoiding those channels :p |
17:36.34 | DiscordianUK | i don't do debian/ubntu |
17:36.47 | jdavies | AndyMillar: oh, come on, aren't you curious? just once ;-) |
17:37.07 | DiscordianUK | They're way too religious |
17:38.27 | AndyMillar | jdavies: there are too many irritating people in those chans :( |
17:38.34 | DiscordianUK | And I#l |
17:38.55 | DiscordianUK | I'll admit apt annoys me |
17:39.00 | jdavies | AndyMillar: as a member of the op team... I know.. :( |
17:39.26 | DiscordianUK | In the same ways that doze does |
17:40.34 | DiscordianUK | ie I find it counterintuitive |
17:40.45 | jdavies | DiscordianUK: personally I love it, it "just works" |
17:41.27 | DiscordianUK | Mostly Redhat/Centos/Fedora do too |
17:42.01 | DiscordianUK | is using F9 to char here,watch TV and stuff |
17:42.27 | DiscordianUK | s/char/chat/ |
17:42.49 | z00dax | jdavies: it mostly works, not because of apt itself, but because of the repo behind it |
17:43.08 | z00dax | apt + dpkg themselves are quite basic |
17:43.39 | DiscordianUK | i wish planetccrma had stuff for F9 now |
17:44.00 | DiscordianUK | I use yum and rpm happily |
17:44.01 | z00dax | DiscordianUK: what are you looking for ? |
17:44.09 | antiphase | apt/aptitude are so much better than anything out there, if only for the speed of them |
17:44.34 | DiscordianUK | I've most of the synths |
17:45.31 | z00dax | antiphase: have you tried yum recently ? |
17:45.47 | antiphase | Yum was terrible last time I used it |
17:45.53 | z00dax | i hear you. |
17:45.57 | antiphase | It was functional, but as slow as treacle |
17:46.12 | AndyMillar | jdavies: ah :) |
17:46.21 | z00dax | it's never been quick. but there have been fairly major changes in the 3.2.x and 3.3.x branches that make it quite quick |
17:46.22 | antiphase | I don't have a modern version to hand though |
17:46.33 | z00dax | the fedora guys did a lot of work to make it 'usable' on a olpc |
17:46.48 | z00dax | centos-5.2 should have a 3.2.8.something |
17:47.01 | DiscordianUK | On F9 yum is faster |
17:47.13 | z00dax | DiscordianUK: did 3.3.0 make it to f9 ? |
17:47.45 | DiscordianUK | moment I'll check |
17:48.28 | z00dax | would also be nice to have something like aptitude for yum |
17:48.37 | DiscordianUK | 3.2.14 |
17:48.38 | z00dax | I wonder why no one has started a project for that |
17:48.59 | DiscordianUK | there's yumex |
17:49.14 | z00dax | true |
17:49.41 | z00dax | but aptitude is ncurses based right |
17:50.14 | DiscordianUK | dpkg made me hurl |
17:52.47 | DiscordianUK | I'm sure it's fine if you like vi |
17:53.14 | DiscordianUK | I either use ex/ed or emacs |
17:55.32 | AndyMillar | vi is awesome |
17:55.49 | DiscordianUK | Lol |
17:55.55 | DiscordianUK | I can use vi |
17:56.13 | DiscordianUK | in fact I do stuff most people wouldn't |
17:56.37 | DiscordianUK | But I'd never choose to use it |
17:57.46 | DiscordianUK | :.,.+10s/xxx/yy/ |
17:58.21 | DiscordianUK | is probably not something vi newbs do |
17:59.22 | DiscordianUK | and now Dr who! |
18:00.16 | AndyMillar | lol |
18:00.49 | jdavies | AndyMillar: do you have gnupg intregrated into your vim? |
18:01.41 | AndyMillar | i don't think so |
18:02.42 | jdavies | AndyMillar: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gnupg.en.html#s-vimgpg |
18:03.36 | jdavies | AndyMillar: add that to .vimrc and open any .asc/.gpg file and it decrypts it for viewing and encrypts it automatically when saving |
18:06.37 | AndyMillar | that is kinda cool :) |
18:08.17 | jdavies | I find it useful :) |
18:09.29 | z00dax | has anyone got a reasonable patch for shell in Vim as yet ? |
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18:50.32 | DiscordianUK | not here |
18:51.11 | DiscordianUK | But i don't do vim |
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20:00.16 | DiscordianUK | Oh dear |
20:01.36 | AndyMillar | ? |
20:02.41 | DiscordianUK | Tis quiet |
20:03.21 | AndyMillar | it's saturday night! |
20:03.43 | DiscordianUK | yes |
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22:00.11 | hali | Good Evening |
22:03.11 | DiscordianUK | L |
22:03.14 | DiscordianUK | Lo |
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22:59.11 | DiscordianUK | wb |
23:01.02 | hali | "one giantic mother fucker!" |
23:01.12 | hali | is watching Arnie on c4 |
23:01.58 | DiscordianUK | grim |