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07:44.41bilarh_am i crazy if i buy an old 5.3 litre jaguar xj12? :D
07:54.08antiphaseDepends if you have an oil well
07:57.41bilarh_:D
07:57.57bilarh_i do work in the oil industry, does that count? :)
07:58.09bilarh_i'm thinking of getting one for our pan-european charity rally of 2009
07:58.26bilarh_the charity recipients will mainly be exxon and total
07:58.27antiphaseIf you get a discount. There's a reason you can pick the cars up so cheap, and it's not the number of miles they've done
07:58.40bilarh_and some crumbs left for sick children
07:59.09antiphaseGet an old diesel Merc instead, at least it won't break down
07:59.15bilarh_they seem to be about 300 quid
07:59.21bilarh_even for ones with MOT and tax
07:59.45bilarh_i can't find any cool mercs though
07:59.50bilarh_it needs to cost less than 500 notes
08:00.16antiphaseSo they cost the same as 3 tanks of fuel, which will probably get you about 700 miles
08:00.30bilarh_hehe that's mad isnt it? :D
08:00.34antiphaseSomewhat, yes
08:02.11bilarh_i want something like this potentially http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1990-JAGUAR-SOVEREIGN-4-0-AUTO-GREEN_W0QQitemZ170220943044QQihZ007QQcategoryZ18185QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
08:02.14bilarh_that's only a v8
08:02.15antiphaseAlthough having said that my old 2.25 petrol Land Rover used to get 17mpg, so 12-13 or so doesn't seem so bad
08:02.21bilarh_siorry a six
08:02.33zaargmorning
08:02.37bilarh_that's what i mean, i get low 20's or high teens in the subaru already
08:02.45bilarh_so it'd only be 50% worse
08:03.02antiphaseOr twice as bad, to put it another way
08:03.14bilarh_true
08:04.26bilarh_the idea is to drive it through europe and then sell it on and any profit to go to charity
08:04.32bilarh_for the car price i mean, we'll stump up for the petrol
08:04.52antiphaseIt's probably worth more as scrap given the price of steel now
08:04.59bilarh_good point
08:05.43zaargwtf that car seems really cheap...
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08:05.51antiphaseLots of aluminium in a V12 as well
08:06.02bilarh_zaarg: jag's are dirt cheap for some reason
08:06.12bilarh_there's cars from the early 90's for under 500 quid
08:06.17bilarh_with mot + tax, just drive away
08:06.26zaargcan't get parts for them or something?
08:06.40bilarh_zaarg: see above with ref to needing personal oil well
08:10.15zaargi see
08:12.19AndyMillarhmm, anyone here going to the ORG keysigning bash tonight?
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10:12.06bilarh_does 210 quid for an asus eee 4gb version sound ok?
10:12.10bilarh_it's through some company on amazon
10:13.09zaargyes
10:13.21Leedsinc VAT?
10:13.25zaargseems very good tbh
10:13.26Leedsnot the surf, is it?
10:13.27bilarh_i think so
10:13.37bilarh_http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Eee-PC-pink-version/dp/B0013AN3OQ/ref=pd_sbs_ce?ie=UTF8&qid=1212401412&sr=8-12
10:13.44bilarh_it's not for myself
10:13.45bilarh_hence the pink
10:13.48bilarh_(honest) ;)
10:14.15Leedsif it's pink, I think there's a good chance it's the surf model
10:14.23bilarh_what's wrong with the surf?
10:14.28zaargi'd buy a neutral colour
10:14.41zaargfor resell value
10:14.42zaargprobably black
10:14.47bilarh_it's for the wife
10:14.52bilarh_she doesn't tend to sell stuff on
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10:15.05Leedssurf has a smaller battery and no camera
10:15.16bilarh_it's more like... oh, haven't used this thing for a while, i'll just stick it in the cupboard until it's completely useless :)
10:15.24zaargyou cheap sake
10:15.26bilarh_leeds: this one's got a 0.3mp built in web cam
10:15.26zaargget her a proper laptop :P
10:15.33bilarh_zaarG: she likes the eee :)
10:15.37zaargheh
10:15.42bilarh_we played with one in pc world the other week
10:16.02Leedsbilarh_: are you sure?
10:16.14LeedsI'm very happy with my Eee - had it over 6 months now
10:16.19bilarh_leeds: Additional features - 0.3-megapixel webcam
10:16.39Leeds210
10:16.44Leedsguess it isn't the surf then
10:16.49zaargi haven't actually played with one
10:17.03Leedsalmost 220 inc shipping
10:17.06bilarh_leeds: do you have any extra sd or mmc storage for yours?
10:17.14Leedsibot change 3998 hkd to gbp
10:17.26bilarh_ibot's busted
10:17.32Leedsyeah, the currency converter has been dead for ages
10:17.36bilarh_xe.com's it
10:17.46zaarggoogle does it
10:17.57bilarh_leeds: 260.98 gbp
10:18.20LeedsI pumped up the RAM to 1GB, I've got a 4GB SD card lying around which I've used when I travel with it, and I bought an 8GB USB stick
10:18.32Leedsthat sort of storage is very very cheap
10:18.37bilarh_can the sd card be left in permanently?
10:18.40Leedsyes
10:18.42bilarh_as in, it doesn't stick out or anything?
10:18.53Leedsalthough I normally just use it with my NFS fileserver at home anyway
10:18.55Leedsno, it's flush
10:18.58bilarh_ace
10:19.21bilarh_now, do i buy a pink one or not? she'd like the pink one better, but it's not too great for me if i want to use it on holiday :D
10:19.29bilarh_it might send out the... wrong signals :)
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10:19.48Leeds$FLATMATE and I both have white ones
10:19.49antiphaseGet a 900 of whatever colour
10:20.04bilarh_antiphase: the 900 is too expensive
10:20.13Leedsget a 901
10:20.54antiphaseIT's more dough, but you get more RAM, significantly more disk space, and twice as much screen area
10:21.45Leedsa 1GB stick of RAM cost me about 12 quid
10:21.47bilarh_it's alos 400 quid :)
10:23.10bilarh_fuck it, i'm buying the blue one instead of the pink
10:23.15bilarh_i think that will look better in a year anyway
10:24.39zaargapparently with the smaller one has an annoying res for webpages
10:24.52zaargyou have to horziontally scroll all the time iirc
10:26.26bilarh_hrm
10:26.37Leedsff3 makes things better
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12:30.52flips_and_railsanyone know what "lpr: Unauthorized" actually means
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13:35.56Blaptoflips_and_rails: is it on fire?
13:36.03wethrin'ello Blapto
13:36.11Blaptowethrin!  Good morning!
13:36.18flips_and_railslooks for smoke
13:36.19wethrinHow do?
13:36.37BlaptoI'm alright
13:36.38Blaptoyou?
13:36.44wethrinNot so bad
13:36.57Blaptogood good
13:37.00wethrinVery soon going to start doing real work
13:37.02wethrin(hah)
13:37.16wethrinmaybe next week
13:37.22Blaptoyou always say that
13:37.25wethrinI do
13:37.33wethrinIt might even happen
13:38.39Blaptommmm
13:38.55wethrinI think I've finally got all the bits I need
13:38.58DiscordianUKReal work as in != IRC?
13:39.02wethrinindeed
13:39.15BlaptoShcok
13:39.17BlaptoShock?
14:06.13BlaptoHow are your transistors
14:10.32wethrinI'm making OLEDs now
14:10.41wethrinWell, I have a few more transistors to make
14:11.10BlaptoOK
14:11.17BlaptoEnjoying it?  Dr. Wethrin soon?
14:11.33wethrinSoonish
14:11.58DiscordianUKsawbones?
14:12.14wethrinsawbones?
14:12.29DiscordianUKmedical doctoring?
14:12.43wethrinNo, no
14:12.45wethrinReal doctoring
14:12.51wethrinAs in, things that aren't useful to anyone else
14:13.01DiscordianUKPhd stylee
14:13.28wethrinIndeed
14:13.59DiscordianUKor DPhil if you went to the funny place
14:15.10BlaptoA mate of mine is doing a PhD at Bristol
14:15.14BlaptoOwen Watson :D
14:17.34wethrinSt. Andrews? :)
14:17.45BlaptoHrm?
14:17.52wethrinNah, mine's just a PhD. I only went to a real university for my undergrad
14:17.59wethrinSt. Andrews still offer DPhils
15:06.05zaargoh what's your phd in?
15:06.19wethrinOrganic transistors
15:07.18zaargright!
15:08.06antiphaseNow you just need to engineer plants to make them for you
15:08.29DiscordianUKor bacteria
15:08.32boudiccasgm transitors
15:09.16DiscordianUKRNA transcription
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