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01:14.23 | z00dax | hummm rain |
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01:18.26 | z00dax | oooo another bethere.co.uk user! |
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06:10.48 | morsing | curson:! |
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07:24.38 | zaarg | moin moin |
07:24.49 | AndyMillar | morsing morsing |
07:49.35 | morsing | AndyMillar! |
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09:10.41 | morsing | Alex! |
09:11.10 | Alex | Is it a bot, or a person? |
09:11.28 | Leeds | are you asking if morsing is a bot? |
09:11.45 | Alex | Whois leads to 'no'. |
09:11.50 | Alex | Morning, all. |
09:13.59 | Leeds | afternoon |
09:16.39 | Alex | so, telehouse at midnight is unpleasant |
09:22.37 | wethrin | morsing has, from time to time, exhibited bot-like characteristics |
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09:49.01 | AndyMillar | Alex: howso? |
11:09.56 | morsing | Alex! |
11:10.00 | Alex | morsing! |
11:10.20 | Alex | AndyMillar: Getting in was interesting. The main entrance closes, and the 'alternative path' was blocked by building materials. It involved shimmying around one of the moatse |
11:10.23 | Alex | er, moats. |
11:18.36 | AndyMillar | yeah, i had that leaving there not so long ago |
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12:36.11 | morsing | gregj! |
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12:44.59 | morsing | gregj! |
12:46.55 | wethrin | He's just bouncing |
13:14.37 | gregj | ! |
13:14.46 | gregj | something's up with my conneciton |
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13:21.01 | morsing | curson! |
13:21.18 | morsing | gregj: You're suffering from the boudiccas syndrome |
13:22.20 | gregj | I suffer from 'no cash, where's the nearest suicide booth' syndrome |
13:25.20 | boudiccas | morsing; don't take my name in vain! please use your own :) |
13:26.18 | Leeds | hey gregj :-) |
13:26.27 | morsing | Leeds! |
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13:31.01 | morsing | curson! |
13:31.27 | curson | hi |
13:31.48 | gregj | hey Leeds |
13:32.09 | Leeds | gregj: how's life? |
13:32.10 | gregj | gets rid of his imac, and sparc ultra 2 creator |
13:32.21 | gregj | Leeds: every day closer to the end, shit |
13:32.29 | Leeds | that good, huh... |
13:32.36 | gregj | got 8zl (roughly about 1.2GBP) on my account |
13:32.46 | gregj | half the tank in car |
13:32.49 | Leeds | nice |
13:32.53 | gregj | so at least I can go to my moms for dinner |
13:33.21 | Leeds | I'm not quite that bad, but I do currently have less in my bank account than I will owe for rent in a couple of weeks |
13:33.52 | gregj | on Monday something got me, I went to sleep around 1800, just to wake up 3 in the morning, with all sorts of weird visions |
13:34.02 | gregj | when I was able to measure my temp, it was 38.4C |
13:34.11 | gregj | nice way to begin a week |
13:34.18 | Leeds | very good |
13:34.22 | Leeds | uh, are you working? |
13:34.28 | gregj | sure |
13:34.39 | gregj | running my own bussiness, still |
13:34.48 | gregj | so , there's ups and downs |
13:35.04 | gregj | last 2 months, downhill, no doubt |
13:35.05 | Leeds | yeah, 'running my own business' doesn't mean the same thing as 'working' |
13:35.29 | gregj | ok, working like hell, but for less money lately than if I would just 'work' for a company |
13:35.39 | gregj | if you ask me, if I thought about going back to UK - yeah,I ddid |
13:36.25 | Leeds | doing random coding work? |
13:36.45 | gregj | bigger and smaller projects |
13:36.59 | gregj | also employing few folks on occasion, to do stuff |
13:37.13 | gregj | but lately there's real problem with skilled programmers here |
13:37.30 | Leeds | too many of them? |
13:37.36 | gregj | either they want shit loads of cash, or they just turn out to be loosers, who know no shit |
13:38.03 | Leeds | isn't 50% of the population of Poland doing plumbing in Birmingham, anyway? |
13:38.49 | gregj | yeah, but that's not sort of my bussiness area ;) |
13:40.21 | gregj | both in terms of bussiness, and area |
13:40.22 | gregj | ;p |
13:41.19 | gregj | http://allegro.pl/item381919896_apple_imac_g5_1_8ghz_1_25gb_ramu_250gb_hd.html |
13:41.26 | gregj | my iMac goes under the hammer |
13:47.12 | antiphase | Best thing for it |
13:47.32 | gregj | I mean, for auction, not literealy |
13:47.52 | gregj | at least so we say here 'under the hammer' |
13:48.17 | Leeds | gregj: don't worry, it's the right phrase :-) |
13:48.23 | gregj | ok |
13:48.24 | gregj | :) |
13:48.38 | gregj | I usually find it right, just to say it the way I would say it in Polish |
13:48.50 | gregj | cos 90% of the time, it is the same thing in English |
13:49.35 | Leeds | I have trouble here with that sort of thing, because Chinese stuff translated into English normally comes out as nonsense :-) |
13:49.54 | gregj | :) |
13:50.42 | gregj | btw, birds whispear that house prices in UK just went down, and the tendency continues |
13:51.04 | gregj | might be a good time to buy a flat in UK, in case I would like to get there for a while ;> |
13:51.11 | Leeds | want to buy mine? |
13:51.21 | gregj | not in london |
13:51.30 | gregj | 120k GBP, and I can buy it ;p |
13:51.41 | Leeds | sure, that'd buy you about 1/2 of mine |
13:51.49 | antiphase | IT's probably the worst time in history to buy a house in the UK, as we're potentially on the bronk of a price fall |
13:52.05 | antiphase | And they're massively overinflated at present |
13:52.14 | gregj | I would rather buy a house, in some quiet area, even outside of town, or on the outskirts (?) |
13:52.23 | morsing | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moVAfGQn7M4 |
13:52.24 | Leeds | but probably a good time to sell :-D |
13:52.38 | gregj | probably the last good moment to try to sell ;) |
13:53.49 | gregj | so rent must go up, or at least stay the same |
13:53.50 | Leeds | I don't want to sell... but I do have this vague idea of remortgaging, pulling out 10k-15k or so |
13:53.51 | bilarh | antiphase - the voice of reason |
13:53.57 | gregj | landlords will want to compensate |
13:54.00 | bilarh | leeds: dont' do it for heavens sake |
13:54.05 | gregj | morsing: is that in your natural tongue ? |
13:54.10 | Leeds | why not? |
13:54.30 | morsing | gregj: No |
13:54.48 | bilarh | leeds: what is it they say about repent at leisure again? |
13:54.57 | bilarh | i forget, but i think it's fitting |
13:55.10 | bilarh | have you got more than 25% equity at the moment? |
13:55.31 | bilarh | leeds: otherwise you'll find it hard to remortgage anyway |
13:55.35 | morsing | gregj: It's Bilarhs mother tongue though |
13:55.41 | morsing | inserts ' |
13:55.59 | bilarh | morsing: what unspeakable things do you know about my mother?! |
13:55.59 | gregj | morsing: nice, volvo, before it was bought by GM, or other big crappy comp |
13:56.08 | morsing | Ford |
13:56.26 | gregj | whatever, nowadays all cars is just the same shit |
13:56.40 | bilarh | gregj: apart from subaru, of course |
13:56.49 | gregj | apart from those made by chinesse, which are death cage shit |
13:56.59 | gregj | bilarh: and maybe VW ;) |
13:57.05 | Leeds | bilarh: I've got approximately 65% equity - I bought in 2000 :-) |
13:57.21 | bilarh | leeds: ah :) |
13:57.27 | gregj | lucky bastard |
13:57.29 | gregj | ;p |
13:57.43 | bilarh | leedS: just remember that it's not free money, it's jsut increasing your debt :) |
13:57.55 | Leeds | not so much lucky... my dad 'forced' me into it... he was quite right, of course |
13:58.38 | Leeds | essentially, what he said was if I was earning a salary, I'd never build any equity from it - the only two ways to do that would be to start a company or buy property |
13:58.48 | morsing | gregj: I'm glad you think so |
13:58.52 | morsing | Subaru sucks |
13:58.56 | gregj | true |
14:00.00 | bilarh | morsing: not as much as yo mum! |
14:00.21 | bilarh | bounces about on his nike airs in front of morsing |
14:00.28 | bilarh | with a limp |
14:02.02 | bilarh | hmm.. i wonder if i should panic buy some fuel |
14:02.32 | gregj | morsing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGI29ZcyZ4&feature=related |
14:02.37 | gregj | morsing: polish made car |
14:02.40 | gregj | P |
14:03.01 | gregj | fully handmade |
14:03.19 | bilarh | looks suspiciously like a maserati and a porsche :) |
14:03.27 | bilarh | ah the lotus seven copy? :) |
14:03.32 | bilarh | or morgan, maybe |
14:05.08 | gregj | those are examples at the beginig of cars made outside of poland ;p |
14:05.25 | Dj_InstincT | explains to yet another customer how aggressive BT/Yahoo mailservers are at deferring mail... |
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14:16.12 | Leeds | nice, native facebook app for Palm :-) |
14:17.13 | morsing | catalyst! |
14:17.25 | morsing | gregj: Leeds is very cheerful today |
14:47.48 | gregj | ;] |
14:48.00 | Leeds | also, I just got tagged in a photo from 1995 |
14:52.58 | gregj | my god |
14:53.16 | gregj | checks his facebook |
14:56.36 | wethrin | Everyone's on Facebook! |
14:56.53 | boudiccas | no they're not! I'm not and i'm part of 'everyone' |
14:57.57 | wethrin | No you're not. YOu're from Kent. |
14:58.20 | boudiccas | no, i live in kent but i wasn't born here. i'm a northener by birth |
14:58.36 | antiphase | Proper bo |
15:06.24 | gregj | read somewhere, that when it comes to soccer you guys don't quite like Germany, why is it so ? |
15:06.34 | gregj | I thought only france is on the heated plate |
15:06.34 | bilarh | gregj: it's got to do with the war |
15:06.46 | gregj | zzzee germanzz |
15:06.53 | gregj | true |
15:07.01 | gregj | that's why we hate them too |
15:07.01 | gregj | :P |
15:07.05 | gregj | belive it or not ;) |
15:07.12 | bilarh | looks shocked |
15:07.20 | gregj | same goes for russia, stalin killed 10x more ppl than hitler |
15:13.14 | Leeds | gregj: but he never bombed London |
15:14.09 | gregj | and now US killed probably about the same hitler did, not all for so honestly peacefull reasons (for instance vietnam, which was thinktanked in US, same as iraq) |
15:14.21 | gregj | yeah sure, he never bombed cracow either |
15:14.34 | gregj | but russians were more brutal than nazi germans |
15:14.45 | Leeds | erm... yes and no |
15:14.48 | gregj | germans had some rules, orderung must something |
15:15.53 | antiphase | arbeit macht frei |
15:16.03 | gregj | work sets you free |
15:16.06 | gregj | that's something different |
15:16.16 | gregj | orderung must something, means 'there must be an order' |
15:16.34 | gregj | or work makes you free |
15:16.38 | antiphase | ordnung muss sein |
15:16.46 | gregj | that's the one |
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15:30.03 | gregj | knows that envy is a sin, but envies Leeds the good food he has a chance to eat out there |
15:30.13 | gregj | send some frozen stuff over in UPS to me please :D |
15:30.28 | gregj | ;) |
15:30.46 | catalyst | would prefer envy to be tan |
15:30.51 | catalyst | or perhaps sinh |
15:31.18 | Leeds | there's a lot of good food here, and some pretty affordable |
15:32.10 | gregj | once I get back on my feet, I would love to get my arse over there for few days, just to see quite different culture, bit westernized, but always |
15:32.39 | Leeds | the most recent excitement is finding a local sushi place which does all-you-can-eat lunch for $108, about 30 Polish z-things |
15:33.11 | gregj | PLN |
15:33.12 | gregj | :) |
15:33.17 | gregj | polish new zloty |
15:33.18 | Leeds | although food prices have gone up recently |
15:33.20 | gregj | zloty = golden |
15:33.30 | Leeds | yeah, that's what I said - z-things |
15:33.34 | gregj | ;] |
15:33.57 | gregj | 30pln that's about 6-8 quid |
15:33.59 | Leeds | can get a local meal for about 1/3 of that |
15:34.14 | Leeds | veg/meat with noodles/rice and tea |
15:34.51 | gregj | the only thing that sets me of is flight cost |
15:35.29 | Leeds | yeah, not so cheap |
15:35.36 | Leeds | I do have a sofa-bed available, of course |
15:36.54 | gregj | I wouldn't dare to ask |
15:37.10 | gregj | cheapflights.com doesn't know what cracow or warsaw is |
15:37.17 | gregj | god damn americans |
15:37.33 | gregj | Unfortunately, we were unable to match your search criteria 'waw'. Please modify your search and try again. |
15:39.44 | Leeds | looks like there is no direct flight - got to change somewhere in Europe |
15:39.59 | gregj | 4100 for one person |
15:40.05 | gregj | PLN |
15:40.15 | gregj | that's about what I earn monthly, more or less, nic |
15:40.16 | gregj | e |
15:40.41 | Leeds | I wish ibot's currency conversion worked |
15:40.45 | gregj | plus my GF, that's bit too much. oh well, maybe another time |
15:40.54 | Leeds | eh, leave her behind |
15:41.11 | wethrin | Are we having a gllug trip to visit Leeds? :) |
15:41.14 | Leeds | or have her pay for you :-P |
15:41.16 | Leeds | wethrin: any time |
15:41.23 | wethrin | hurrah! |
15:41.34 | gregj | 4200, that's about 980 quid |
15:41.35 | Leeds | but since you're all penniless layabouts, it isn't going to be soon :-P |
15:41.58 | gregj | she just finishes her masters by the end of month |
15:42.02 | gregj | jobless |
15:42.52 | catalyst | is about to graduate |
15:43.34 | wethrin | Ha. The real world awaits |
15:43.38 | gregj | in argoculture, ... heh |
15:43.47 | gregj | yeah |
15:43.53 | Leeds | the real world sucks - right, wethrin? |
15:43.59 | wethrin | Leeds: Yes, yes it does. |
15:43.59 | bilarh | gregj: that must be quite a good salary for poland? |
15:44.03 | gregj | the real world feels like Piazzola tangos |
15:44.08 | gregj | bilarh: average in IT |
15:44.45 | gregj | if month is good I get over 10kPLN, if not so good - I don't get a thing, like for last two moths |
15:45.33 | gregj | of coz there are ppl working in IT for much less, but they usually can do stuff like change few cards, configure windows, and fill the paper in printer |
15:45.35 | bilarh | ah |
15:45.44 | gregj | we don't pay ppl here for just MSCE |
15:45.53 | gregj | in fact, MSCE means no shit here |
15:46.01 | Leeds | gregj: what are the taxes like? |
15:46.03 | gregj | means shit, I mean |
15:46.08 | gregj | killing |
15:46.13 | gregj | I am on flat 19% |
15:46.41 | gregj | plus VAT, and 'ZUS', about 600PLN a month (that's the social security stuff) |
15:46.43 | morsing | Beer |
15:46.55 | gregj | 3PLN a bottle |
15:46.58 | gregj | 5-6 in pub ;p |
15:47.03 | gregj | in cracow, 10 in warsaw |
15:47.05 | Leeds | no VAT here, and my income tax will come to something like 1.25% |
15:47.15 | gregj | lucky bastard... |
15:47.15 | Leeds | for 2007-2008 |
15:47.16 | gregj | ;p |
15:48.06 | gregj | anyways, time to go to my moms |
15:48.26 | Leeds | HK government had a large surplus last year... they put a lot of it in the bank, but cut taxes to 'spend' the rest |
15:48.29 | gregj | pierogi with straberries |
15:48.33 | Leeds | dropped all taxes on beer/wine |
15:48.45 | Leeds | dropped the income tax rates, and increased the allowance and bands |
15:48.51 | gregj | while everywhere else in the world, govs are putting more taxes on ppl |
15:49.11 | gregj | currently in EU we pay about 4x the taxes nazi germans were paying (which were the highest at that time) |
15:49.15 | Leeds | offered various one-off payments - e.g. I am expecting a credit from the government of about 120 quid on my electricity bill at some point soon |
15:49.23 | gregj | and yet ppl wonder, why everything feels so shit now... |
15:49.46 | bilarh | gregj: you're right, we need to bring back the nazis! |
15:50.10 | Leeds | and then they offered a (capped) 75% discount on income taxes anyway! |
15:50.11 | gregj | and recently, they even want us to pay for co2 emission, which is spent on stuff not related to co2 emission at all, but who cares... |
15:50.37 | bilarh | gregj: stop being so selfish... |
15:50.42 | Leeds | gregj: the point about paying for co2 isn't to raise money to spend on it |
15:50.44 | bilarh | wishes someone would think of the children |
15:50.53 | bilarh | and the terrorists, ffs |
15:50.58 | Leeds | the point is to make it more expensive to produce it |
15:51.08 | gregj | bilarh: that would be too plain , and stuppid conslusion |
15:51.09 | Leeds | bilarh: no worries, all the terrorists will be in jail for 42 days anyway |
15:51.27 | gregj | terrorists, the modern age enemy |
15:51.28 | gregj | :) |
15:51.47 | gregj | well, the way I see it, they all lie to us big time, so ... |
15:51.51 | gregj | I am not being selfish a bit |
15:51.51 | bilarh | leeds: yeah :( |
15:51.58 | gregj | so stop accusing me |
15:52.01 | gregj | anyways, gotta go |
15:52.06 | gregj | buy chaps |
15:52.08 | gregj | bye |
15:52.09 | gregj | :P |
15:52.10 | bilarh | i'm not accusing you :) |
15:52.10 | Leeds | have fun |
15:52.14 | bilarh | i'm mocking the government :) |
15:52.46 | gregj | I will, |
15:53.06 | gregj | Leeds: I invite you to Poland one day, got a sofa too ;p |
15:53.20 | gregj | blah, that was completly wrong sentence |
15:53.22 | Leeds | no way - I can't afford the flight! :-P |
15:53.28 | wethrin | Leeds: Get a job, then :-P |
15:53.32 | gregj | you? no shit ;p |
15:53.36 | Leeds | wethrin: you get a bloody job! |
15:53.38 | gregj | stop eating than, and save :p |
15:53.45 | wethrin | Leeds: I have a job! |
15:53.51 | wethrin | Well. I earn money. |
15:53.52 | gregj | yeah, wethrin stop studying, work! |
15:53.56 | Leeds | since when do you have a job? |
15:54.01 | wethrin | Leeds: Since 1st Feb |
15:54.09 | gregj | goes, bye to all |
15:54.11 | Leeds | what is that job? |
15:54.19 | wethrin | Researching OLEDs |
15:57.23 | Leeds | that's not a job |
15:57.48 | Leeds | well, maybe it is... I don't really care :-P |
15:59.22 | wethrin | Leeds: They pay me. What more matters? |
16:00.20 | zaarg | i'm a genius! |
16:00.33 | zaarg | just did an IQ test |
16:00.39 | zaarg | :) |
16:03.51 | boudiccas | wethrin; what are 'OLED's'??? |
16:04.04 | wethrin | Organic LEDs |
16:04.34 | boudiccas | ah, right, thanks |
16:05.52 | Leeds | made from stem cells, right? |
16:06.33 | wethrin | Not quite |
16:06.57 | boudiccas | things like glow worms? |
16:07.09 | wethrin | Not quite |
16:07.17 | boudiccas | hmmm |
16:07.21 | wethrin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLED |
16:08.54 | boudiccas | ah, right! now it makes sense |
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17:27.59 | morsing | trousers! |
17:28.06 | morsing | trousers: You need a haircut |
18:08.10 | morsing | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Circle_(Iceland) |
18:42.29 | jpds | morsing: hey there |
18:43.03 | morsing | jpds! |
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19:42.53 | hali | evening |
19:44.58 | morsing | http://www.ashleyforcepictures.com/?pp_album=main&pp_cat=ashley&pp_image=af.jpg |
19:48.04 | AndyMillar | why does http://gllug.org.uk/uploads/IRCfaces/Leeds.png remind me of someone who lives in leeds? :p |
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19:54.44 | morsing | trousers! |
19:54.45 | morsing | http://www.staautogearbox.co.uk/index.shtml |
19:55.51 | antiphase | Do they run Linux? |
21:11.10 | z00dax | morsing: are you now in the autogearbox trade ? |
21:12.49 | morsing | z00dax: No - but quite impressed such a specialist company isjust a mile from where I live |
21:13.20 | morsing | Also, spent weeks last month trying to adjust my governor but never succeeded. Maybe they can help |
21:14.00 | antiphase | Just tell him you're not coming to work tomorrow |
21:14.27 | morsing | z00dax: You're ill? |
21:24.41 | z00dax | morsing: a bit |
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21:33.09 | morsing | ! |
21:33.13 | morsing | G'night all |
21:34.17 | z00dax | morsing: nite |
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