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06:29.09morsingetorix!
07:16.58j0nrmorsing!
07:17.06morsingj0nr!
07:17.21j0nrmorsing!
07:29.05morsingsneezes on j0nr
07:29.14morsingj0nr: Wooo! It's Julie day today :)
07:29.28j0nrmorsing: Julie day?
07:34.08morsingYeah - I'm going to Julie's in Wales and staying for a couple of day :)
07:34.10morsingdays
07:39.20j0nrwho's Julie?
07:39.45morsinghttp://www.morsing.cc/photos/Julie_and_cat1.jpg
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07:41.46morsingranner!
07:41.56morsingAnyway, I'm off - bye!
07:41.59rannermorsing!
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08:33.42zaargmorning
08:33.47zaargtoot, it's mac day
08:34.00zaargand i've not even posted my soul yet.
08:40.03Leedsyay, it's... Tues day
08:59.31Leedsand I want to go home and play games
08:59.58zaargyeah, i want to watch star trek tng and eat sausage sandwiches.
09:01.39kjalilmorning
09:01.48kjalilLeeds: hi
09:02.36Leedsdifference is, it's 5pm here - not all that far from quitting time :-)
09:02.42Leedseven if I did only get in just before 12...
09:04.06zaargwhy do some youtube videos highlight sections when I tab throuhg the window?
09:04.12zaargit seems rather pointless
09:04.16zaargthey're not annotated or anything
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09:32.51Blaptohttp://www.btplc.com/news/articles/showarticle.cfm?articleid={efd7b1fa-52ed-45bb-b530-734fac577e94}
10:16.56zaargwould it be possible to blow up a computer by incorrectly wiring an ethernet cable?
10:17.04zaargsomebody that knows aboout these things please enlighten me!
10:17.15j0nrdoes gllug have any meets?
10:17.39zaargyeah, but as I understand it nobody has organised one for ages.
10:17.44wethrinOnly if someone has organised one
10:18.07wethrinI've not had time for months, and won't for some time. No-one else seems to be bothered
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10:36.35antiphasezaarg: You need an Etherkiller
10:39.51zaargantiphase: ha, mental.
10:48.09wethrinYes, what antiphase said. You won't blow anything up by wiring it improperly if you just connect between a switch and a computer
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11:50.15Blaptohttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg
11:51.09j0nrhttp://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg
11:51.13j0nrdoh
11:51.34BlaptoWIN!
11:51.40wethrinharr
11:51.48Blaptodoes a little dance
11:52.49j0nrheh nice Blapto
11:53.24bilarhi found this really cool link: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0504/WaterOnMars2_gcc.jpg
11:53.53Blaptomakes notes for bilarhbot
11:54.10bilarhcoffee!
11:55.44londoI might have to throw away some OLD 1U ibm boxes very soon, anyone in london that might want to take them?
11:56.00BlaptoGot specs londo?
11:56.32londoibm xseries 330, dual 1Ghz P3, 1GB RAM from what I remember
11:56.46wethrinEh, they'd make reasonable colo machines
11:57.24londonot sure if we'll trown all of them away yet but it's 40 of them
11:57.42zaargcan i put it under my bed and happily forget about it?
11:58.03wethrinzaarg: Only if you're deaf
11:58.07zaargoh right
11:58.25wethrinRackmount machines are NOT VERY QUIET
11:58.47dick_turpinwethrin: They are if you don't turn em on :-)
11:58.51wethrinthinks he has enough rackmount computers at the moment
11:58.56BlaptoI know someone who might want a couple
11:59.09wethrinBlapto: Yes, but do they want computers too?
11:59.38Blaptolondo: can you send an e-mail to richard.harvey@osapanel.org ?
11:59.52zaargi'm quite fond of sleep, so i'll pass for now
12:00.26londoBlapto: I'll send an email to the list later today
12:00.51BlaptoOK
12:46.49AndyMillarmmh, i wouldn't say no to old 1U boxes either if it saves them from the bin
12:46.57AndyMillarlondo: any idea what the power usage is like for them?
12:59.52bilarhlol: http://failblog.org/2008/07/05/understanding-english-fail/
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13:48.43gregj2
13:58.47zaarg3
14:04.03boudiccas4
14:10.49Blapto1ping
14:11.06antiphaseTTL expired in transit
14:11.42Blapto1well, at least it began transit
14:17.58bilarhAAARGHGH!!
14:18.04bilarhstabs a random person in the face
14:18.14bilarhWANT SUM, HUH?!?
14:18.21bilarh*staaaaaab*
14:18.27bilarhsorry, i'm really bored
14:18.37zaargouch
14:20.36bilarhi wish i was still at my old work place, surfing porn
14:24.06zaarglol wtf
14:28.01j0nrbilarh: was it you shopping for a car? Any joy?
14:28.18bilarhnot yet
14:28.29bilarhi think i'm going for a 2.3 litre saab 9000
14:28.34bilarhturbo, of course
14:28.43bilarhshould achieve about 300bhp "easily"
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14:28.59bilarhon the other hand, i don't know how many tuned cars i need :-\
14:31.41j0nrxantia 2.0 turbo ...hardly interesting, but i didnt know they did one
14:32.21j0nrshame you need a big car... could get a supra
14:32.28bilarhyeah a supra would be cool :D
14:32.30bilarhi like the mk3
14:32.35bilarhfeels like driving a tank :)
14:32.45bilarhalthough, they do feel overweight
14:33.28j0nrtheres a subaru legacy still under 500 on ebay...doubt it will stay under, but bet that could be made into a beast
14:33.37bilarhah yeah
14:33.42bilarhgot a subaru already, don't want another one :)
14:33.47bilarhbloody money pits
14:33.50j0nri bet...
14:33.55j0nrwhat you got? impreza?
14:34.00bilarhyeah
14:34.03Blapto1How many cars have you been through bilarh?
14:34.05bilarhthe wrx
14:34.15Blapto1For as long as I can remember you've been looking to buy/sell them
14:34.41j0nrwish i could afford to buy/sell cars
14:35.12bilarhblapto1: complete history timelline: saab 900i, toyota celica, clio 1.2, subaru impreza wrx, renault megane coupe, renault clio 1.4
14:35.25Blapto1Ah, that's not too bad
14:35.36bilarhthe first clio was my wifes
14:35.38j0nrhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROVER-820-VITESSE-TURBO-1997-R_W0QQitemZ280246204816QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280246204816&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
14:35.41BlaptoHooray, got my nick back
14:35.47bilarhand the megane was my in laws :)
14:35.55j0nroo i like renaults
14:36.01j0nrive had a few 19 16v
14:36.02j0nrs
14:36.03bilarhthey are good to drive, yes
14:36.18bilarhi liked the 1.2 clio the best to be honest... it was an r-reg, weighed nothing
14:36.28BlaptoAre you no longer looking for a porsche?
14:36.37j0nrbut would have been better if it was 16v, or better still 2.0
14:36.50BlaptoThere's about £300 of repairs on that Rover
14:36.52BlaptoMaybe more
14:37.02bilarhblapto: nah, gave up that idea... they feel too slow :S
14:37.22j0nryou expect to find a car that doesnt need repairs for under 500?
14:37.35BlaptoNot repairs to the same value as the car :P
14:37.46bilarhj0nr: no but what i meant was, i wasn't sure if i could get it home the 30 miles without blowing the engine and gearbox :D
14:38.23j0nrah
14:38.41bilarhto be honest, the fixing it part is part of the fun
14:38.44bilarhwhen it's not rust
14:38.46Blaptoyeah, true
14:38.51bilarhhates rust more than his job
14:39.08j0nrindeed
14:39.11BlaptoWhat's the job?
14:39.18bilarhsysadmin
14:39.22bilarhbut fuck all to do at the moment
14:39.32BlaptoAh
14:39.33BlaptoHrmm
14:39.36BlaptoLearn kernel hacking
14:40.03bilarhhrm
14:40.12bilarhhonestly not that useful for a sysadmin, i think
14:40.17j0nrhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-RENAULT-21-TURBO-QUADRA-BLUE_W0QQitemZ320274515913QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320274515913&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
14:40.25j0nrshame about the stupid body kit
14:40.27BlaptoNo, but fun
14:40.58bilarhblapto: i'm thinking of a career change... my ideal job would be a pornstar
14:41.09BlaptoHave you got the cock for it?
14:41.12j0nrive always wanted one of them, but a pure clean example
14:41.13bilarhblapto: i'm thinking i might take a job as a fluffer and work my way up
14:41.33bilarhj0nr: that bodykit isn't *too* bad
14:41.55BlaptoI know a couple of guys in porn, apparently the fluffer thing is a complete myth
14:42.06bilarhblapto: :'(
14:42.48bilarhblapto: oh and vis-a-vis cocks, i think my main opportunities lie in dwarf-porn :)
14:43.13j0nrAudi 100 Quattro Turbo
14:43.22bilarhj0nr: not for 500 quid, surely
14:43.32j0nrhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-100-Quattro-Turbo_W0QQitemZ320274321674QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320274321674&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
14:43.36bilarhj0nr: i had a look at s2's from the beginning of the 90's and they seem to command like 2k :S
14:43.38j0nrprobably not eventually no
14:44.10j0nr8 days to go :D
14:44.32bilarhgreat :)
14:44.44bilarhshould I hold my breath until it finishes? :)
14:45.00j0nri wouldn't
14:45.04j0nr8 days is a long time
14:45.42bilarhthe 5 cylinder audi's sound fantastic, though :)
14:46.17bilarhwasn't there a maestro turbo as well?
14:46.22bilarhstarlet turbo :D
14:46.56j0nryeah maestro turbo was meant to be good
14:47.05j0nrstarlet a bit small for me
14:47.35bilarhyeah me too
14:47.50bilarhit's a shame, otherwise i'd have gotten myself an mr2
14:47.57bilarhnot for the purpose of the scumball
14:48.58j0nrlol either a mistake or an idiot trying to get his ad found: RENAULT 19 BLUE V8 CONVERTABLE
14:49.26bilarhprobably the latter :)
14:49.44bilarhmaybe they meant 8v :)
14:49.56j0nrmore likely
14:50.13j0nrhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-V8-Quattro-4-2-switchable-sports-auto-Very-rare_W0QQitemZ180263855554QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item180263855554&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
14:50.16j0nrshame that will go over
14:52.01bilarhto be honest, i'll probably end up with a saab turbo, i used to hanker after one of them in my early 20's
14:52.32j0nrim more browsing for interesting cars now
14:52.43j0nri will have 8 cylinders one day
14:52.49bilarhyeah me too
14:53.01bilarhthey just sound *so* mean
14:53.09j0nryup
14:53.12bilarhi want a lump american big f-off mean v8 :D
14:53.20bilarhone that barely idles due to wild cams
14:53.20j0nrthe audi R8 sounds wicked
14:53.21wethrinblames bilarh personally for global wa^W^Wclimate change
14:53.35bilarhwethrin: go eat some lentils
14:53.40bilarhdon't forget your sandals
14:57.14zaarggee, i'm speccing a pc at the moment
14:57.30zaarg<mandatory comment about how cheap everything is>
14:58.19wethrinWoo. I'm getting free stuff!
14:58.30bilarhj0nr: this one looks pretty neat: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MR2-Turbo-for-sale_W0QQitemZ190236913762QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190236913762&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
14:58.42wethrinHuge chemical corps++
15:02.48j0nrbilarh: I would like that engine in a mk1
15:04.07zaargthe good thing about that car is that is would take very little work to turn it into a replica of the car from knightrider.
15:07.29bilarhzaarg: :D
15:07.42bilarhj0nr: the mk1 seems to rust too much
15:08.07j0nrbilarh: too true....my mate had one...was minging, but oh so fun to drive
15:08.12j0nri like this:
15:08.13j0nrhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/E34-BMW-ALPINA-B10-BI-TURBO-360-BHP-MASSIVE-HISTORY_W0QQitemZ220253203524QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220253203524&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318
15:10.40cpufreakbilarh: you there?\
15:11.01bilarhcpufreak
15:11.02bilarhyes
15:11.05zaarghttp://lifehacker.com/398531/firefly-turns-firefox-into-a-local-file-manager
15:11.07zaargrocking
15:11.20zaargi have been searching for a decent file manager for linux.
15:11.26bilarhj0nr: oh, even for someone like myself who don't like bmw, that's pretty cool :)
15:11.46zaargspoke to soon, it's pants.
15:12.49cpufreakbilarh: were you with those scumball idiots this weekend?
15:12.55bilarhcpufreak: umm no
15:12.58cpufreakoh
15:13.04cpufreakI htought you were doing that
15:13.13bilarhscumball 3000, it doesn't even go past nurburg
15:13.14cpufreakthey were at the 'ring this weekend, causing lots of problems.
15:13.16cpufreakoh right
15:13.20bilarhscumball != scumball 3000
15:13.27cpufreakfair enough
15:13.42bilarhlots of leaky cars?
15:14.04bilarhscumball 3000 is an excuse to go camping and get pissed in the evenings (for everyone but a designated driver, of course) :)
15:14.07cpufreakyeh
15:14.16cpufreakthat said my car broke
15:14.20cpufreakguess how much this cost me: http://badger.ing.me.uk/hosed.jpg
15:14.37bilarhooh, brake hose?
15:15.06wethrinEither considerably more than it should have, or almost bugger-all
15:15.16bilarhunless it's covered by the bmw warranty, i'd say it's about 30 quid for a goodridge hose
15:15.22bilarhplus optionally an armco charge :)
15:15.32zaarg50p?
15:15.42bilarhwe're all in suspense here
15:17.04antiphaseHe's yakking to someone else in the office at the moment
15:17.12antiphaseNormal service will resume shortly
15:17.16bilarhcan you stab him for us, please?
15:17.20cpufreakpower steering hose
15:17.25cpufreakit cost me 5000quid
15:17.30bilarharmco? :)
15:17.33cpufreakno.
15:17.44cpufreakI avoided the armco
15:17.57cpufreakdespite it pissing out on my rear wheels, causing a spin at 160km/h or so
15:18.25bilarhnice :)
15:18.41bilarhtrack closure?
15:18.44zaargduct tape.
15:18.45cpufreaknope.
15:18.52bilarhruns out guesses
15:19.37cpufreakbut whilst I stopped as soon as I realised the cause of the spin.. in that my power steering wasn't working, and steam was coming out
15:19.47cpufreakand a marshall behind me stopped and was flagginf or it
15:19.54cpufreaka biker went down, and I had to buy him a new bike
15:20.11bilarharse :-\
15:20.15bilarhis he ok?
15:20.46cpufreakyep
15:20.47cpufreakhe's find
15:20.49cpufreakfine
15:20.52cpufreakhe was a friend of a friend
15:20.58cpufreakand was really nice about it
15:20.58bilarhwouldn't insurance cover it anyway?
15:21.03cpufreakfuck insurance
15:21.07cpufreaksave that for when someone is hurt
15:21.48bilarhhigher premiums + excess > 5k :S
15:21.57cpufreakno
15:21.58cpufreakjust hassle
15:22.04cpufreakand talking to police and stuff == failure
15:22.19cpufreakhe had a honda vtr 1000 sp1
15:22.24cpufreakI've got him a SP2
15:22.30cpufreakand new leathers, helmet, and gloves
15:23.35bilarhhmm, you're right.. 5k wouldn't be worth the hassle
15:23.42bilarh*rolleyes* ;-)
15:24.30wethrin5k not worth hassle? I need a new job
15:25.14bilarhwethrin: ah, what's 5k between friends? it's not much more than the average house price fell in June ;-)
15:25.49zaarggee, i need to get hit some time.
15:26.09wethrinmm
15:27.03AndyMillarcpufreak: you can get a new bike (and leathers/helmet) for under 5k?
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16:05.52ChoHagWell we had fun today.
16:06.07catalyst\o/
16:06.16ChoHagPower cut killed the main network.
16:06.24ChoHagTurns out the database failover is ... manual.
16:06.52catalyst/o\
16:07.01catalyst...yay?
16:07.11wethrinNo, FAIL
16:07.15wethrinChoHag: Haven't you got a new job yet?
16:07.24ChoHagAnd with the main network down the routing doesn't.
16:07.28ChoHagNo.
16:07.36ChoHagVery little time to even look.
16:07.54ChoHagI should look now, actually, while waiting for my wife to come home but it's too h
16:07.57ChoHaghot
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16:25.20ChoHagThese tubs of ice cream are expensive but damn they're good.
16:29.37BlaptoTubs?
16:30.18ChoHagHaagen Dazs
16:30.28BlaptoYou're not really meant to eat entire tubs
16:30.54ChoHagI'm considering it though.
16:31.10BlaptoGet thee to cwjobs
16:33.04wethrinLeave a spoonfull of ice cream in the bottom of the tub
16:33.10wethrinThen, technically, you haven't eaten the whole tub
16:36.38ChoHagSvitlana doesn't eat ice cream anyway. She won't know.
16:37.06antiphaseIn Soviet Russia, ice cream eats you
16:37.47wethrinnom nom
16:38.15ChoHagProbably. Good thing she's not fron Soviet Russia, eh?
16:38.30ChoHagAlthough it could be nice, actually, in this weather.
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16:46.47mindbendrhello
16:49.16BlaptoIt's Mr. Web 2.0!
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17:13.49cpufreakAndyMillar: wasn't a new bike
17:15.01AndyMillarah
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18:17.10ChoHaglol @ cwjabs.
18:17.28ChoHagOh. No. lol @ my reading comprehension.
18:17.34ChoHagNever mind. Nothing to see here.
18:20.52ChoHagApparently Sega is 'rapidly expanding'.
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18:55.08DiscordianUKEvening
18:56.28boudiccasevening
18:58.10DiscordianUKHi boudiccas
19:31.04halihai
19:37.32bilarhtjo
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21:06.06DiscordianUKponders trying the upcoming respin of fedora 9 x64
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21:09.19DiscordianUKlo
21:09.25ArmandHiya. :)
21:09.32DiscordianUKhiya
21:09.35ArmandHow you doing?
21:10.10DiscordianUKSo so trying to work out why my 64 bit spin of Fedora 9 failed
21:10.20ArmandO_o
21:10.30ArmandI haven't played with 64bit yet.
21:10.53DiscordianUKThis is a 64 bit AMD x2
21:11.03DiscordianUKI'm running 32 bit on it now
21:11.21DiscordianUKBut I've a free partition for 64 bit
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21:12.38ArmandDoesn't it work straight off with F9 ?
21:13.13DiscordianUKIt got about 66% in and started asking for a new DVD
21:13.31Armandhuummm
21:13.40ArmandI thought it was only 1 DVD O_o
21:13.46DiscordianUKit is
21:13.54DiscordianUKhence my surprise
21:14.05AndyMillarheh
21:14.41ArmandI can imagine..
21:14.46DiscordianUKI can't be downloading 4.3 Gb isos that often
21:16.01ArmandI got the Live KDE ver, but I've only installed it on VM
21:16.33DiscordianUKI run 32 bit F9 on my boxes presently
21:16.47DiscordianUKI've only one box that could do 64 bit
21:16.49ArmandJust thinking if I should use that (with KDE4 >_<) or Arch.. or PC-BSD.
21:17.00ArmandI don't have any 64bit..
21:18.59DiscordianUKIt's a very cheap AMD 64 box I bought when I was last working
21:19.00haliarch is cute
21:19.07halikde in arch is wrong tho :)
21:19.13haliarch is more fluxbox style
21:19.31DiscordianUKI like fluxbox
21:19.38ArmandI've got the Arch DL, but I don't know..
21:19.48DiscordianUKOn small amounts of RAM it works very well
21:20.40ArmandWell, I need to choose 1 distro.. mostly for my webserver, but something that I can use on anything.
21:21.23DiscordianUKFor a webserver I'd suggest Centos rather than Fedora
21:21.55DiscordianUKBut personally I'd avoid Centos for a desktop/laptop
21:22.04ArmandI used F8 before, but I'm not so keen on package management on Fedora.
21:22.47DiscordianUKThen perhaps you should follow the dark side - debian/ubuntu
21:26.12ArmandI've got Arch 2008.06 atm, plus I'm going to DL PC-BSD.. I'll try them both over the weekend.
21:26.49DiscordianUKWhat's PC BSD derived from?
21:26.59halifreebsd with desktop 'addons'
21:27.15DiscordianUKAhhh FreeBSD is okay
21:27.26ArmandAnd, a graphic installer!
21:27.35DiscordianUKI'd run not walk away from anything Theo has touched
21:27.46Armand?
21:29.01DiscordianUKTheo de R is the chief architect of OpenBSD
21:30.17ArmandOh
21:30.21ArmandWho?
21:30.22Armand:P
21:31.46DiscordianUKIt's not important I guess
21:31.53ArmandNot really. :)
21:39.07Armand>_< PC-BSD webby is being a bitch
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