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| 06:57.52 | bilarh | damn server room air con has packed in again |
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| 08:22.39 | hali | hm, no redundancy? |
| 08:23.00 | bilarh | huh? |
| 08:23.13 | bilarh | oh i was thinking "have i been fired" there for a second |
| 08:23.13 | hali | for the air con units |
| 08:23.16 | bilarh | no |
| 08:23.20 | bilarh | we've got three |
| 08:23.26 | bilarh | and if one fails it goes up to about 30 degrees |
| 08:23.39 | hali | not redundant enough then :) |
| 08:23.48 | hali | we have four units and go up 2C if one goes down |
| 08:23.51 | bilarh | we've been campaigning to have it changed for a year, but then we're moving offices |
| 08:23.56 | hali | but we don't have much kit tho |
| 08:24.10 | hali | ah yes, moved yet? |
| 08:24.26 | bilarh | 22nd of august |
| 08:24.42 | bilarh | it's all our damn disks and 1750's |
| 08:26.04 | hali | we used to get hotspots where we stacked loads of 1950's but sorted now when i've rearranged it |
| 08:26.17 | hali | space them out with som v490 |
| 08:26.18 | hali | 's |
| 08:26.34 | bilarh | we're finally getting rid of our last sun as well :D |
| 08:26.38 | bilarh | on the 21st of August, incidentally |
| 08:26.45 | bilarh | sorry, our two last suns |
| 08:26.47 | bilarh | an ultra-10 :D |
| 08:26.50 | bilarh | and a v880 |
| 08:27.04 | hali | sad |
| 08:27.18 | hali | i've refurbished some v880's and they are really really nice machines |
| 08:27.30 | hali | and they have GREAT disk io :) |
| 08:27.32 | bilarh | this one is fully loaded as well |
| 08:27.36 | hali | as long as you don't use SVM |
| 08:27.51 | hali | i have an 8-disk ZFS pool and we get over 100MB/s from it |
| 08:27.52 | bilarh | all i'm saying is, our NFS performance is vastly better with our linux servers than with the old v880 |
| 08:28.05 | bilarh | the network on the v880 sucks |
| 08:28.24 | bilarh | we only get ~200-300 mbit through it |
| 08:28.26 | hali | haven't tried hardcore nfs from ours, most are sybase server |
| 08:28.31 | bilarh | no matter how many interfaces we transfer across |
| 08:28.57 | hali | whats the speeds from the linux boxen? |
| 08:29.12 | hali | i've never seen over 500mbit from a linuxbox over NFS |
| 08:29.21 | bilarh | we get about 500mbit |
| 08:29.43 | hali | and i don't trust linux' nfs server implementation |
| 08:29.51 | hali | solaris feels so much more solid |
| 08:29.55 | hali | and netapp obviously |
| 08:29.59 | bilarh | but we can read multiple streams at that speed |
| 08:30.09 | bilarh | it works pretty well for us, to be honest |
| 08:30.12 | bilarh | nfs with heartbeat |
| 08:30.21 | hali | good |
| 08:30.34 | bilarh | of course, it's no good for oracle |
| 08:30.48 | bilarh | our new oracle solution is coming online this weekend |
| 08:31.07 | bilarh | two 1950's with an lsi disk pack |
| 08:31.15 | bilarh | 20tb with raid-10 |
| 08:31.33 | hali | blimey, lots of disk and small boxes :) |
| 08:31.38 | bilarh | but most of it is external files, as usual :) |
| 08:31.45 | bilarh | we need space more than throughput, to be fair :) |
| 08:32.42 | bilarh | we've cobbled together some kind of oracle solution as well |
| 08:32.46 | bilarh | without resorting to rac |
| 08:32.55 | bilarh | shared storage, and then we manually fail over |
| 08:33.05 | hali | 'cobbled together' sounds like a great plan for HA :) |
| 08:33.10 | bilarh | so i don't know if it should be called a HA system :) |
| 08:33.23 | bilarh | it hasn't got the same requirements for uptime as our nfs servers |
| 08:33.31 | bilarh | production doesn't stop with oracle going down, luckily |
| 08:33.54 | bilarh | the best bit is |
| 08:34.10 | bilarh | we're running oracle 10.2.x *and* 8.1.7_r |
| 08:34.13 | bilarh | on the same box |
| 08:34.20 | DiscordianUK | errk |
| 08:34.25 | bilarh | our great application works with 8.1.7_r only |
| 08:34.40 | DiscordianUK | That's kinda old |
| 08:34.45 | bilarh | no kidding? :) |
| 08:35.15 | bilarh | i was surprised it was actually possible to use 10g and 8i with the same listener |
| 08:35.30 | hali | i don't think that's supported :) |
| 08:35.43 | hali | i would run two listener of different ips or ports |
| 08:35.43 | bilarh | it is i think |
| 08:35.55 | bilarh | it says in the docs it's ok as long as you run with the listener of the later database |
| 08:36.00 | hali | it's usually one version backwards compatability |
| 08:36.10 | hali | but if it works it works :) |
| 08:36.21 | bilarh | yeah, we're kind of stuck with 8.1.7_r for now anyway |
| 08:36.34 | bilarh | there's a new version of our stuff coming out soon that supports 10g, i hear |
| 08:36.41 | bilarh | so hopefully we can upgrade in the not too distant future |
| 09:08.17 | wethrin | Grr. Mailing list still broken |
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| 11:04.38 | hali | hm, phone network seems pooped in the city |
| 11:04.46 | hali | mobile that is |
| 11:05.44 | boudiccas | hali; someone pooped in your mobile? gross!!! |
| 11:10.38 | bilarh | someone once puked on the saddle on my cycle... i thought that was pretty gross, but poop on a mobile :S |
| 11:12.31 | hali | i once saw bilarh puke over just about everything |
| 11:12.44 | hali | after we forced down 5 tequila shots in him |
| 11:12.47 | bilarh | not my own saddle, though |
| 11:12.49 | hali | no |
| 11:13.15 | hali | i was especially amused when your mother asked if you needed to go to the hospital :-) |
| 11:13.36 | bilarh | knows someone who should shush about bilarh's drinking escapades, lest bilarh retells 18th birthday stories ;-) |
| 11:13.49 | hali | yes, those were the days |
| 11:14.01 | bilarh | indeed |
| 11:14.04 | bilarh | damn i feel old |
| 11:14.28 | hali | well, we could talk about the last time you watched a sweden-england fotball game :) |
| 11:14.32 | hali | that wasn't too long ago |
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| 11:17.44 | bilarh | ahem :) |
| 11:17.51 | bilarh | my drinks were spiked :D |
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| 11:58.51 | bilarh | hmm |
| 11:58.57 | bilarh | i'm thinking of actually going to the doctors |
| 11:59.49 | bilarh | i've had this chest pain in just to the left right of my solar plexus for about two-three weeks now |
| 12:00.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: More like the Vet's |
| 12:00.32 | bilarh | maybe they could put me down :) |
| 12:00.43 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'll pay! |
| 12:00.52 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; we dont have vets hospitals here like they do in the states, they're teh vets administration really do seem to help out the vets |
| 12:01.16 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You silly moo vets as in animals |
| 12:01.31 | Shevek31337 | bilarh, Are you pregnant? |
| 12:01.39 | dick_turpin | lol |
| 12:01.42 | bilarh | shevek: no i had my period last week |
| 12:01.49 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; ah, well it wasnt plain in your original comment :( |
| 12:02.28 | dick_turpin | plus you normally you need to have sex to get pregnant bilarh is a bit short in that area :-P |
| 12:02.53 | bilarh | hrm |
| 12:03.02 | bilarh | seriously though, it hurts when i stretch |
| 12:03.06 | bilarh | lie on my side or tummy |
| 12:03.10 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; theres a joke there but i'm not following it up |
| 12:03.14 | bilarh | which sucks, because i like sleeping on my tummy, but i can't do it anymore :) |
| 12:03.25 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Then don't do it you muppet |
| 12:03.40 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Spoil sport |
| 12:04.09 | boudiccas | i do have /some/ sensibilities |
| 12:04.46 | bilarh | if i cracked a rib, would that cause symptoms like this? |
| 12:04.48 | dick_turpin | searches the attic and cellar for boudiccas's sensibilities |
| 12:04.53 | bilarh | alternatively, is there any cartelage between ribs? |
| 12:05.00 | bilarh | or something like that? |
| 12:05.11 | boudiccas | bilarh; muscles |
| 12:05.16 | bilarh | arse.. |
| 12:05.25 | boudiccas | no, wrong part of the body |
| 12:05.42 | bilarh | so it's possibly that i might have damaged a muscle attachment thingy? |
| 12:05.45 | boudiccas | if you're arse is bewteen you're ribs then you're really stuffed |
| 12:05.51 | bilarh | see i think i got it from being elbowed in the chest about 100 times |
| 12:06.02 | bilarh | which was dumb, but seemed necessary at the time |
| 12:06.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Go to the Chemist get 500g of Ibuprophen (If you can) take that for a day or so you'll be fine |
| 12:06.06 | boudiccas | sounds like you've got bruised ribs then |
| 12:06.16 | bilarh | for three weeks? |
| 12:06.26 | boudiccas | 500 milligrammes. |
| 12:06.33 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You've torn the cartlidge in your sternum |
| 12:06.51 | boudiccas | i havent torn anything dick_turpin i'm careful when i have sex :) |
| 12:06.59 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bum that was for bilarh |
| 12:07.15 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You've torn your sturnem |
| 12:07.23 | dick_turpin | sternum |
| 12:07.28 | dick_turpin | bloddy hell |
| 12:07.33 | dick_turpin | bloody hell |
| 12:07.34 | boudiccas | first spelling right, second one wrong |
| 12:07.44 | dick_turpin | I give up |
| 12:07.49 | bilarh | ah that's the bone i was thinking of actually |
| 12:08.01 | boudiccas | if you've fractured you're sternum you'd be in agony i can tell you |
| 12:08.18 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I did the same thing about 8 years ago, thought I was having a heart attack |
| 12:08.18 | boudiccas | its bad enough when you crack a rib |
| 12:08.39 | bilarh | this picture looks strangely erotic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/23/Gray116.png/250px-Gray116.png |
| 12:09.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Got put on a heart monitor and everything, spent hours in A&E |
| 12:09.16 | bilarh | it gets better.... "Its average length in the adult is about 17 cm, and is rather longer in the male than in the female." :D |
| 12:10.01 | dick_turpin | pokes bilarh in the sternum |
| 12:24.33 | zaarg | dell is selling a 27-inch monitor for under £400? |
| 12:24.36 | zaarg | gee |
| 13:44.21 | bilarh | I feel like buying this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150271837084&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=005 |
| 13:44.58 | bilarh | busted head gasket, allegedly :) |
| 13:46.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh: That'll match your busted sternum then |
| 13:46.25 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 13:46.41 | bilarh | maybe when i'm at home off work recovering, i can fix the head gasket as well :) |
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| 14:54.51 | Leeds | someone fancy doing me a quick favour? |
| 14:59.09 | boudiccas | Leeds; ask and we shall see |
| 15:00.05 | Leeds | trying to test SIP on my mobile |
| 15:00.35 | boudiccas | and so? |
| 15:00.54 | boudiccas | admits she doesn't know what SIP is |
| 15:01.00 | Leeds | in other words, calling the London number which should get delivered to my HK mobile |
| 15:01.40 | boudiccas | ah, so you would like me to ring your london number to see if it is actually transferred? is that right? |
| 15:04.08 | Leeds | I did - I got a couple of people from #lugradio to call me :-) |
| 15:04.24 | Leeds | it's not ideal, but it's pretty cool to have my mobile ring for a VoIP call |
| 15:05.02 | boudiccas | ah fair enough :) |
| 15:40.47 | Leeds | the expert in that sort of thing is rhowe, who was running his own virtual global phone network before I even left the UK... |
| 15:41.52 | Leeds | in the meantime, there are benefits as well as downsides to having a large cultural gap with one's girlfriend - she's currently watching E.T. for the first time and enjoying it :-) |
| 15:42.10 | wethrin | is that a benefit or a downside? :) |
| 15:45.19 | Leeds | a benefit - I get to plan on IRC and with SIP while she's watching it |
| 15:46.44 | wethrin | ah :) |
| 15:46.50 | wethrin | Geek :-P |
| 15:49.07 | Leeds | yes |
| 15:49.33 | Leeds | to be fair, she did kick me off my machine when we got in from dinner so she could check her facebook :-) |
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| 20:59.39 | DiscordianUK | lo |
| 20:59.50 | steve___1 | hallo? |
| 21:00.05 | steve___1 | hmm |
| 21:00.12 | steve___1 | where did the mailing list go? |
| 21:00.21 | DiscordianUK | I saw mail earlier |
| 21:00.26 | steve___1 | oh really? |
| 21:00.38 | steve___1 | well, I put my account in suspend a while back |
| 21:00.54 | steve___1 | and then I went here to turn it back on... |
| 21:01.06 | steve___1 | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug |
| 21:01.10 | DiscordianUK | might be best to turn it back on |
| 21:01.19 | steve___1 | try the URL... |
| 21:02.37 | DiscordianUK | http://gllug.org.uk/index.php?/archives/3-Online-Discussions.html |
| 21:02.45 | DiscordianUK | Time moves on |
| 21:03.46 | steve___1 | I'm not sure how that helps. |
| 21:03.57 | steve___1 | THat page has a link to the same URL |
| 21:04.12 | steve___1 | http://www.gllug.org.uk/ |
| 21:04.15 | steve___1 | is broken too. |
| 21:04.34 | steve___1 | oh well. |
| 21:04.52 | DiscordianUK | it is? |
| 21:05.05 | steve___1 | yep :( |
| 21:05.12 | steve___1 | Not Found |
| 21:05.14 | steve___1 | The requested URL / was not found on this server. |
| 21:05.15 | DiscordianUK | npt from here |
| 21:05.18 | steve___1 | :/ |
| 21:05.18 | DiscordianUK | not |
| 21:05.26 | steve___1 | odd |
| 21:05.39 | steve___1 | what IP does www.gllug.org.uk resolve to for you? |
| 21:06.00 | steve___1 | or cname |
| 21:06.02 | steve___1 | I get |
| 21:06.10 | steve___1 | www.gllug.org.uk is an alias for www.gllug.ukfsn.org. |
| 21:06.10 | steve___1 | www.gllug.ukfsn.org has address 77.75.108.9 |
| 21:06.16 | jpds | steve___1: I think the air con in the server room has failed again. |
| 21:06.18 | DiscordianUK | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.56 | steve___1 | oh |
| 21:06.56 | jpds | "07:57:52 < ~bilarh> damn server room air con has packed in again" from today. |
| 21:07.02 | DiscordianUK | the server seems to be live here |
| 21:07.05 | steve___1 | that sucks |
| 21:07.20 | steve___1 | well, I have to say, it wasn't working on Monday either... |
| 21:07.32 | jpds | (I think) |
| 21:08.27 | DiscordianUK | however the archives do appear offline |
| 21:09.13 | steve___1 | http://lists.gllug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/gllug |
| 21:09.17 | steve___1 | is definitely shagged. |
| 21:09.32 | steve___1 | Well, in the interim, can an admin switch my account back on? |
| 21:09.40 | DiscordianUK | Patience becomes reality |
| 21:09.52 | DiscordianUK | isn't an admin |
| 21:09.57 | steve___1 | oh well |
| 21:10.54 | DiscordianUK | These u-mans are so impatient |
| 21:13.18 | steve___1 | Oh well, I tried :) |
| 21:13.42 | DiscordianUK | I'd wait and retry in 24 |
| 21:14.14 | steve___1 | ok |
| 21:14.16 | steve___1 | cool |
| 21:14.25 | DiscordianUK | if the list server is down you'll not be missing anything |
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| 21:14.50 | steve___1 | no I expect not. |
| 21:14.56 | steve___1 | okey dokey |
| 21:15.02 | steve___1 | ttyl... |
| 21:15.07 | steve___1 | thanks. |
| 21:34.29 | wethrin | The list server's been down for ages now |
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| 22:19.57 | hali | Hello |
| 22:20.05 | hali | Bar Bluu looks ok |
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