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02:24.34DiscordianUKwb
02:25.38boudiccasty
02:25.50boudiccasjust upgraded xchat to 2.8.6
02:26.11DiscordianUKahhh i see
02:26.49DiscordianUKI'm on 2.8.4
02:28.37boudiccasapparently in 2.8.6 you can choose whether to log indiviudal channels or not, as the case may be
02:29.21DiscordianUKAhhh right, no point in me upgrading i'll lose net connectivity soon
02:30.11boudiccaswhys that?
02:30.26DiscordianUKthe direct debit failed
02:30.43DiscordianUKBeing unemployed is a pain
02:31.21boudiccascan you not set up a standing order, that way you control the amount going out each mnoth
02:31.45DiscordianUKIt was costing me 24 a month
02:31.51DiscordianUKWhich is a bit much
02:32.07boudiccastiscali broadband is costing me 14.99 pm
02:32.18DiscordianUKI'm thinking of talktalk
02:32.34DiscordianUKgets rid of paying BT top
02:32.36DiscordianUKtoo
02:33.02boudiccasact now before its too late
02:33.31DiscordianUKIt probably is
02:34.09DiscordianUKuntil i can get a job anyway
02:34.21boudiccaswhat i menat was act now before you lose your connectivity
02:34.27boudiccas*meant
02:34.47boudiccasdamn this beer is good :) two pints and i'm anyones :)
02:35.06DiscordianUKlol
02:35.16DiscordianUKi've not had any beer tonight
02:35.27boudiccashaving a dry night?
02:35.52DiscordianUKYeah and I'm feeling ill
02:36.09boudiccashow so ill?
02:36.38DiscordianUKi'm diabetic and it' gone a bit mad
02:36.53DiscordianUKThink I may have a dose of heat stroke
02:36.59boudiccaswhats your blood sugar rating atm?
02:37.29DiscordianUKaround 8ish
02:37.41boudiccasdrink plenty of fluids and make sure you're blood sugar is within acceptable limits
02:37.58boudiccasbut you know more about managing your diabetes than i do
02:37.59DiscordianUKCan't be more exact cos I'm having to read the colour codes
02:38.29boudiccasi remember it well from the dip sticks of the urine
02:38.40DiscordianUKI shall be off down sainsburys later
02:38.54boudiccas24-hour sainsburys?
02:38.58DiscordianUKI think i shall be living off soup today
02:39.15DiscordianUKThe sainsburys express is naff
02:39.33boudiccaswell, i have plans to feed you up :)
02:40.28DiscordianUKLol a friend of mine visited at the weekend
02:40.41DiscordianUKShe commented how thin i am now
02:41.23boudiccaswe'll see what we can do about that
02:41.39DiscordianUKOnion soup and crusty bread would be ideal
02:41.53DiscordianUKand I'll doubtless buy soft cheese too
02:41.59boudiccascant stand crusty bread, my old kanshers cant cope with it
02:42.07boudiccas*knashers
02:42.53DiscordianUKI tend to buy garlic bread slices usually so I can freeze em
02:42.53boudiccasright, back to bed for me, nn
02:42.58DiscordianUKGood night
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07:21.51Leedsso oyster is dead again?
07:38.18rhoweputs the old TV on freecycle
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07:59.53bilarhhali: saab 9000 2.3 full pressure turbo :D
08:02.42zaargyup, oyster is fucked this morning
08:02.48zaargdidn't have to swipe in or out
08:15.41Leedsso it's free?
08:28.37zaargyes
08:36.06Leedsnice
08:44.02halibilarh: cool, so you are selling the subaru now?
08:44.16bilarhno
08:44.22bilarhnot yet
08:44.31bilarhi'm gonna let it depreciate a bit further first :)
09:56.41bilarhanyone hazard a guess as to what a 19" htpc case with a 500w psu, some amd 64 board + proc and nvidia video card is likely to fetch?
09:59.29bilarhi know it's not worth lots of money, but is it enough to cover the ebay fees? :)
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10:00.08mindbendrhi
10:01.29wethrinbilarh: 150ish?
10:11.50bilarhok :)
10:11.56bilarhmorning mindbendr
10:12.05wethrinNote I'm only hazarding a guess
10:12.16wethrinLast time I got rackmount PCs, they were free
10:12.21bilarhthat's what i was guessing around as well, though, so
10:12.35bilarhoh no, the 19" means that it fits in like a sound system tower thingy
10:12.46bilarhyou know like when you buy separate components for your home hifi?
10:12.58bilarhit's not a rack mount pc as such
10:15.00wethrinyeah
10:15.08wethrinhm
10:15.15wethrinSo it's a 'hifi'-style PC?
10:15.24bilarhwell
10:15.34bilarhit's designed to fit with other home entertainment stuff
10:15.44bilarhit's one of those "connect pc to your tv" thingies
10:16.06wethrinright
11:07.34bilarhnice, i just found a deep fried eyebrow in my chips
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11:15.48halinice
11:15.53haligood to get some freebies
11:16.16bilarhyeah it's just extra protein the way i see it
11:16.40haliok im bored
11:17.28bilarhi'm officially bored too
11:17.44bilarhand i'm working in the weekend too
11:18.14wethrinThat was silly
11:18.17wethrinYou should all go to the pub
11:18.27bilarhi'd get fired if i drank during working hours
11:18.31bilarhhealth and safety again
11:19.11wethrinFuck 'em
11:19.18wethrinDon't you sit in front of a computer all day?
11:19.24wethrinOr do you operate heavy machinery?
11:19.25bilarhyes
11:19.47wethrinto which?
11:20.11bilarhto the computer bit
11:20.48wethrinSo, having a beer isn't really going to impair anything
11:27.48bilarhyou forget that i work in an office where the warm water taps in the kitchen have been disabled
11:27.52bilarhdue to h&fs
11:29.28AndyMillarwtf?
11:30.02AndyMillarhave the cold water taps been disabled too due to risk of water poisioning if employees drink too much water?
11:30.23bilarhnope, that's allowed, so far
11:30.37bilarhour employee manual states that we must hold the hand rail when walking in stairs
11:30.47bilarhmy boss got shouted at for not holding the rail when he walked up the stairs once :D
11:31.28AndyMillarLOL
11:32.14bilarhi can kind of understand overzealous h&s on a friggin oil platform drilling deck, but wtf, in an office? :S
11:32.50AndyMillaris it a wooden hand rail?
11:33.01bilarhno, so no risk of splinters ;-)
11:33.10AndyMillardamn
11:33.15AndyMillarwhat type of handrail is it?
11:33.49AndyMillarany risk of static shock from the handrail and therefore falling down the stairs?
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11:34.00AndyMillar(as a direct result of [being told to] hold the handrail)
11:34.00bilarhit's a rubber hand rail thing
11:34.04bilarhor plastic
11:34.05bilarhor whatever it is
11:34.22AndyMillarso probably not :(
11:35.01AndyMillari'd *so* get fired from a job like that withiun a day :(
11:35.15catalystit's silly
11:35.22catalystvery, very silly
11:35.30bilarhtell me about it, it's complete rubbish
11:35.31bilarhbut there you go
11:35.39wethrinSo what if you're carrying something?
11:35.39bilarhindication of things to come for other uk companies, me thinks
11:35.44wethrinYou can't hold the handrail then
11:35.50bilarhah, but there's lifts
11:35.53bilarhand we have trolleys
11:35.58wethrinoh, okay
11:36.13wethrinAnyway, isn't being made to hold the handrail offensive to people with no arms?
11:36.14AndyMillarhas been known to jump down stairs :p
11:36.23AndyMillarwethrin: or someone with a hook for a hand
11:36.29AndyMillarthen again, they can be asked to use the liuft
11:36.35AndyMillarawesome
11:36.46AndyMillara claustrophobic midget with no arms!
11:36.56AndyMillarWHAT WOULD HE DO!?!
11:38.26AndyMillarmaybe I took that too far :/
11:39.16bilarhIN A BIKINI
11:39.39bilarhactually, thinking about it, the top would fall of if there were no arms
11:39.42AndyMillarmaybe I didn't take it too far
11:39.45bilarhunless it was a halterneck-bikini
11:39.52bilarhthen it would only fall of if the midget didn't have a head
11:39.55AndyMillaror a strapless one
11:40.03bilarhtrue
11:40.11bilarhunless the midget had no arms, no head and no torso
11:40.36bilarhso, if you were a midget consisting only of the legs, you couldn't wear a bikini top
11:40.47bilarhand thus, the health and safety rules are screwed up
11:40.48AndyMillarindeed!
11:40.49bilarhi thank you.
11:42.42dick_turpinbrings a gang of dwarfs round to kick the shit out of bilarh's kneecaps
11:42.53bilarhthey'd have to kick really high
11:42.59bilarhyou need taekwondo dwarfs
11:43.22dick_turpinThey're Ninja Dwarfs
11:43.43bilarhfears the ninja dwarf's shurikens
11:44.05wethrindick_turpin: Did they fill in a risk assessment before doing so?
11:44.51bilarhdick_turpin: i bought a saab 9000 2.3 turbo :D :D
11:45.14AndyMillarbilarh: do you drive it to work?
11:45.19bilarhandymillar: not yet :)
11:45.24bilarhi haven't picked it up yet
11:45.26bilarhgoing on sunday
11:45.35dick_turpinwethrin: They don't care they're ex Chinese secret dwarfs, we all know China and its view on rights ;-)
11:45.59dick_turpinbilarh: So you won then?
11:46.04bilarhyep :D
11:46.19AndyMillarbilarh: have you filled in health and safety forms for driving it to work? had the car assessed by health and safety assessment officers?
11:46.29dick_turpinbilarh: Oh goody when's the wife kicking the crap out of you?
11:46.31bilarhandymillar: heh, you joke, but listen to this
11:46.40bilarhwhen i start doing on-call
11:46.47bilarhi will not be permitted to use my own car for coming into the office
11:47.03bilarhi *must* use the company provided golf 1.6
11:47.28bilarhand, i *must* fill in a form every time i "check it out" confirming that i've checked the fluids, the tyres, indicators etc
11:47.28dick_turpinsees nothing wrong with that
11:47.44bilarhand, during the week i'm on call, i have to leave my own car in the office car park
11:48.02bilarhdick_turpin: she just rolled her eyes at me, funnily enough
11:48.40bilarhdick_turpin: i was wearing heavy armor body plates and i was hiding behind the sofa, so maybe she'll "get me" when i come home next
11:49.03dick_turpinbilarh: Ah the famous female death glare!
11:49.23bilarhthat's the one
11:49.30bilarh"i don't mind" :P
11:49.40bilarh"you do what you want" etc :D
11:49.42bilarhthat's the best one
11:49.49bilarhthat means exactly the opposite 100% of the time
11:50.02dick_turpinbilarh: Yeah I was just gonna say that
11:50.31dick_turpinbilarh: "Its OK" is another killer comment
11:50.54bilarhyeah, but i've been married for long enough now to pick these ones up easily
11:51.06bilarhto begin with, i used to get into trouble with things like "do i look fat in this"
11:51.16bilarhand "she looks fit doesn't she" etc
11:51.22bilarhis too honest
11:51.52dick_turpinbilarh: Try second time around. You never learn from the 1st experience
11:52.26bilarhmaybe it was the drooling, i don't know..
11:53.16dick_turpinbilarh: My misses sets deliberate traps its pretty funny to be honest. "I know you was looking just be honest"
11:53.31dick_turpinYeah right as if I'm gonna admit to that
12:03.10bilarhexactly!
12:03.32bilarhthat's a dangerous one though, because it's impossible to get out of without friction
12:03.41bilarheither you're a liar, or you looked at someone else :)
12:03.43bilarhcan't win
12:05.12bilarhhehe this is funny
12:05.33bilarhso labour are doing epically badly in the elections etc, setback after setback, public opinion at an all time low etc
12:05.48bilarhthe scottish party secretary comes out with this:
12:05.59bilarh"we need to do more of the sorts of things that we've been doing".
12:10.51dick_turpinbilarh: I have a fan sitting on a cardboard which in turn is on my desk. The power lead is across the room about a foot off the floor. Thats OK in't it?
12:11.06bilarhyeah, course!
12:11.21bilarhbut you must watch out for the evils of HOT WATER IN THE KITCHEN
12:12.14dick_turpinbilarh: Ah, what about a 19" monitor with no stand but supported by 2 Laptop FDD drives?
12:12.28bilarhpah, that's baby risks
12:13.04dick_turpinbilarh: I've got a nail file in my desk tidy?
12:13.16bilarhyou want to be building your server racks outside of the server room due to the server room having a couple of fans so it's deemed a noisy environment, *then* tilting the almost full rack to get it to fit under the door
12:13.41bilarhof course, it's worse to have your hearing damaged than being crushed by a rack full of disks :)
12:14.18dick_turpinbilarh: I can better that! We are in a converted house, the racks had to be carried up the stairs. Hernia City here we come
12:14.53bilarhi'm not sure if that's allowed... if said midget in a bikini with nothing but legs above were to see it, he could claim for discriminiation on the basis that he doesn't have hands with nails to file
12:15.02bilarhyou insensitive clod!
12:15.30dick_turpinbilarh: Hm, let me consult the Ninja Dwarfs
12:15.51bilarhmind your back when you bend down
12:15.57bilarhbend your knees rather than the back
12:16.08AndyMillarbilarh: you can't be serious :/
12:16.20bilarhwell, actually, it was suggested that we build the racks outside
12:16.53bilarhbut when we pointed out that they designed their stupid door incorrectly, we were allowed back in the server room, provided we took lots of breaks and wore ear protectors if we needed to stay in there for any length of time
12:16.58dick_turpinbilarh: Do they have the concrete blocks in the bottom?
12:17.28bilarhdick_turpin: i don't usually inspect dwarves bottoms, so wouldn't know
12:17.39dick_turpinbilarh: Tit
12:17.55bilarhthe racks have no concrete
12:18.04bilarhwhy the hell would you want that anyway?
12:19.06dick_turpinbilarh: When we put ours up (Fully Built but empty) it wasn't until the 3rd one someone suggested taking out the stablizer block. Doh!
12:19.26bilarhheh, nice
12:19.32bilarhi've nver seen one of them
12:20.02dick_turpinbilarh: HP racks have a slab in the bottom I think its optional
12:20.25bilarhah ok
12:22.14dick_turpinWe had to take the door off to get them in with a lot of grunting and swearing, and that was the girls. We are an equal rites employer :-)
12:22.48boudiccaspagans unite in the equal rites employer ;))))
12:23.13bilarhmmm, grunting girls :D
12:23.28bilarhboudiccas: :D
12:23.36boudiccas:)
12:23.39dick_turpinboudiccas: All hail the gorgeous one
12:23.46bilarhwhere?
12:24.02boudiccasi'm here :)
12:24.05dick_turpinbilarh: Not you you ugly scrote
12:24.54bilarhi'll have you know that i have the canteen girls leaving snail trails every time they see me :D
12:25.22bilarhor possibly they wet themselves laughing at me :S
12:25.23boudiccasurgh gross
12:25.37bilarhsorry :(
12:26.32dick_turpinWhat? They got no legs then?
12:26.45bilarhthe midget got them :(
12:27.07bilarhhey what's the politically correct term for a midget/dwarf?
12:27.20bilarhobviously, vertically challenged person is the funny one
12:27.24bilarhbut what's the real one>
12:28.31dick_turpinRestricted Stature I think
12:28.41bilarhah, that's a good one
12:34.15halihm, so yeah
12:34.17halithe city is burning
12:34.48dick_turpinfiddles while the city burns
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12:38.20bilarhis impressed with dick_turpin's history knowledge
12:38.27bilarhand quick turn of phrase
12:38.34bilarhhali: so what's up in the city?
12:38.46bilarhis it literally ablaze, or are you speaking metaphorically about e.g. the ftse?
12:38.50halibilarh: 'big' fire just off finsbury square... we can mostly see smoke
12:39.00halihorrible smell though, must be plastic burning or something
12:39.00bilarhah ok
12:39.08bilarhfinsbury square... that's where linh is today
12:39.14halioh dear
12:39.17bilarhmaybe someone was checking someone else out and she exploded in rage?
12:39.18haliit's a bit up though
12:39.24zaargfire?!
12:39.24dick_turpinfiddles faster
12:39.40zaarggoes outside to look
12:39.42bilarhhands dick_turpin a violin
12:40.13dick_turpintakes the violin with petrol smelling hands
12:43.52zaargwhere the hell do i go to book a train to berlin from london?-)
12:44.11bilarhtried ryanair?
12:44.24zaargi'm anti-plane
12:44.26zaarg:P
12:44.33bilarhthat's a bit silly of you :)
12:44.39halitrains are so insecure
12:44.44zaargtrains are the best
12:44.54haliplanes are so much safer and quicker
12:44.59bilarhrepeat after me: there is no global warming - it's a myth perpetrated to raise taxes
12:45.22boudiccas<PROTECTED>
12:45.31bilarhboudiccas: well done
12:45.36bilarhgives boudiccas a condescending pat on the head
12:45.40zaarg:|
12:45.44zaarglet's not go there today
12:45.45boudiccasis that meant to make me feel better because i dont feel any different
12:45.49zaargbesides trains are just nicer
12:46.04zaargyou don't feel like you've been spun round a dance floor when you step off them
12:46.06boudiccassnuff
12:46.11bilarhtries again, this time with a bit more gusto
12:46.14zaargand you get to see all the bits inbetween
12:46.26bilarhzaarg: it's true actually, trains are pretty cool
12:46.50zaargthere's nothing like listening to some tunes while speeding through the countryside :D
12:55.50flips_and_railsI have multiple problems, 1) with iptables 2) with python. Could someone possibly help pls?
12:56.18flips_and_railsMy iptables problem is that they simply keep resetting to defaults for no apparent reason
12:56.51zaargjust ask your question already
12:57.15flips_and_railsI open up port 22 to ssh, it'll let me in a couple of times and then the tables randomly reset
12:58.19flips_and_railsany ideas?
12:59.59flips_and_railsPython problem: from a script I get segfaults when importing vtk because it chooses to use 32bit libs instead of 64bits, from python command line I don't. Its the same python binaries running in both instants and AFAIK the paths and environments are the same
13:40.49dick_turpinis now tucking into a tub of ice cream
13:41.46boudiccasa late dinner dick_turpin ?
13:44.36dick_turpinboudiccas: Na its very hot here in the Midlands, which is very rare, stuff the penguins gimme the warmth :-)
13:45.08wethrinAre you doing your bit for having nice summers, by driving 4x4s?
13:46.01dick_turpinwethrin: Oh god yeah there are two huge Nissan truck thingys and a top of the range Shogun in the carpark
13:49.24dick_turpincoats his Mars bar with ice cream
13:50.45boudiccasyuk
13:51.25dick_turpinboudiccas: It all comes out the same in the end ;-)
13:51.45boudiccasonce its passed through the lumin
13:52.30dick_turpinboudiccas: Ooh is that why I rush to the loo screaming "Whats Lumin"
13:55.16dick_turpinbilarh: Oi I found this for you http://www.zombieharmony.com/
13:56.11boudiccaslol
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14:20.36bilarhdick_turpin: is it work and health and safety safe?
14:20.44bilarhare there any stairs in it without bannisters?
14:20.46bilarhor hot water taps?
14:21.10boudiccasor shower heads [think legionnaires]
14:21.30bilarhwhat's the roman empire got to do with showering?
14:22.02boudiccasthe bug breeds in shower heads and is passed onto users of the shower
14:24.48bilarhreally?
14:25.00bilarhis it dangerous?
14:25.33catalystno! don't tell him that, that'll only convince him not to cleanse :<
14:40.34bilarhwhat a hurtful comment :'(
14:40.41bilarhcries someone a river
15:00.46AndyMillari hope it's not a very big river
15:00.56AndyMillaror health and safety will dicipline you for causing a drowning hazard
15:01.24dick_turpinknows that bilarh is a smelly Nord due to there being Fjords in the UK for him to wash in
15:02.19bilarhahem, there's no fjords in sweden either... slartibartfast didn't have time to put any in
15:03.29dick_turpinbilarh: hm I need to revise my insults then :-|
15:05.07bilarhwhy don't you just insult someone from norway instead
15:05.47bilarh353bhp/354lbft. Mods in "view my scooby".
15:05.52bilarhwtf
15:06.22dick_turpinbilarh: But I built up this image of you covered only in a dead bear skin and a viking helmet
15:06.41bilarhyou must have seen me on a weekend
15:06.48bilarhthere's bears in sweden fwiw
15:06.49wethrinThe helmets would be against H&S - the spikes could hurt someone
15:06.56bilarhtrue
15:07.17bilarhdick_turpin: was the person wearing red stilettos with the bear skin? if so it was probably me
15:07.23dick_turpinGood point, get it? point? see how I ... Oh forget it
15:07.34bilarhyou suck :)
15:07.58bilarhwishes people would stop posting relevant stuff on the gllug mailing list
15:08.33dick_turpinbilarh: Its a fair cop guv'ner
15:09.10wethrinbilarh: Relevant? It's iptables! No-one in their right mind uses that shite!
15:09.16wethrin(i)pf FTW!
15:09.22wethrinAnd also for keeping sanity
15:09.47bilarhwethrin: god, you are *such a nerd* - you'll never get laid talking about packet filtering firewalls ;-)
15:10.11bilarhgives wethrin a dead leg for good measure
15:10.12wethrinYes, quite
15:10.12catalystoh, I wouldn't say *that*...
15:10.33wethrinis quite capable of not getting laid *without* talking about packet filtering firewalls
15:10.35bilarhit's from the midget in the bikini bottoms
15:11.56Ninja_Dwarfslides up behind bilarh
15:12.02bilarhquickly stands on his toes so ninja_dwarf can't kick his knees
15:12.37Ninja_Dwarfleaps to an incredible height and bites bilarh on the arse
15:12.59bilarhooh... i wouldn't do that if i was you.. you might catch something down there
15:13.26bilarhhas taken legionella fears on board and hasn't showered his arse in weeks
15:13.35Ninja_Dwarflaughs as he has infected gums
15:13.48bilarhboudiccas: would a garden hose be safe?
15:14.14boudiccasdepends which orifice you're sticking it in? :)
15:14.20bilarhhehe
15:17.39gregjhttp://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249
15:24.12dick_turpinGod I hate some of our suppliers, two days of warmth and out come the mails for aircon units
15:38.04dick_turpinHome time :-)
15:38.34boudiccasah yes POETS day
15:42.36zaargi've been watching monty python properly for the first time in my life this week
15:42.38zaarg:D
15:47.37wethrinGood man
15:47.49wethrinFlying Circus, or the films?
15:52.07zaargflying circus
15:52.27zaargmaking my way through the second season atm
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