IRC log for #gllug on 20080803

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00:44.18kjsruns around bouncing off the walls
00:44.43Armandremoves the walls..
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03:05.13discordianwb
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04:52.49Leedsmorsing!
05:34.47morsingcurson!
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08:32.27morsingLeeds!
08:34.04boudiccashas anyone got access to a sage accounting package where they would be able to lt me learn how to use it at home on my machine? does this make sense?
08:34.20morsingboudiccas: John Malkovich
08:38.55morsingboudiccas: Why are you upset?
08:44.43morsingLeeds: Why's Sharon upset?
08:49.26Leedswho's Sharon?
08:50.05morsingLeeds: You're just taking the piss now
08:50.10morsingTwat
08:50.19Leedsam I?
09:05.45morsingLeeds: How can I open Palm .pdb files on my computer?
09:06.29Leedsdepends on what's in them and what you want to do with them - pdb is a generic format which is just a "Palm DataBase"
09:06.45morsingOk, it's all my text messages I've backed up
09:08.33LeedsI'm not sure how well the text message database format is either documented or supported, but... you can use "pilot-file -d Messages.pdb | less" to get a dump of them
09:12.44morsing-d = delete?
09:22.54Leedsdump
09:23.13morsingAhh :)
09:23.24morsingI don't have the pilot tools, need to find them
09:29.34Leedsthey're called pilot-link, if that helps
09:30.01morsingNot really - every site I find either doesn't have them for download or says it's out of date
09:34.31morsing*sigh*
09:34.33morsinggives up
09:39.33morsingcontactsdb-test.c:28:18: error: popt.h: No such file or directory
09:39.33morsingcontactsdb-test.c: In function ‘main’:
09:39.33morsingcontactsdb-test.c:352: warning: ‘pilot_connect’ is deprecated (declared at ../include/pi-header.h:31)
09:39.36morsingmake[2]: *** [contactsdb-test.o] Error 1
09:39.39morsingmake[2]: Leaving directory `/home/morsing/Download/pilot-link-0.12.3/tests'
09:39.41morsingmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
09:39.44morsingmake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/morsing/Download/pilot-link-0.12.3'
09:39.46morsingmake: *** [all] Error 2
09:41.13morsingLinux sucks
10:08.04morsingflips_and_rails: Why's everyone upset today?
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10:42.02morsingdick_turpin!
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11:01.00morsingboudiccas!
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12:15.46morsingcatalyst!
12:15.49AndyMillarhmm
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12:31.31morsingArmand!
12:31.48ArmandDafternoon morsing. :)
12:32.12AndyMillaranyone know if these cisco "labs" on ebay are actually worth getting for pissing around with cisco?
12:33.12morsingAndyMillar: The CD?
12:33.58AndyMillarmorsing: ?
12:34.03AndyMillari mean things like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cisco-CCNA-Lab-2600-CCNA-2620-2612-2924M-2924-xl-en_W0QQitemZ300244937700QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300244937700&_trkparms=72%3A988%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318
12:34.51antiphaseIf you have an average IQ you don't even have to have seen a Cisco device to get a CCNA
12:35.17AndyMillarantiphase: it's more for having fun (and getting something I can use as a cisto adsl router cheaply)
12:36.26antiphaseI wouldn't get a 2620 for home use if you enjoy sleeping in the vicinity
12:36.36antiphaseYou want an 801 or 1701 iirc
12:36.39AndyMillarthey noisy?
12:36.51antiphaseThey're designed to go in datacentres, not houses :)
12:38.12antiphaseYou need the right IOS images if you want to use ADSL WICs as well, which you might struggle to get if you don't have a Cisco login or a friendly network engineer that will illegally get them for you
12:38.23antiphaseNot to mention enough RAM
12:38.51morsingAndyMillar: The CCNA is quite hard especially if you have no hands-on experience
12:39.13morsingAndyMillar: I have the CD with the device emulator on it
12:39.29morsingStill no substitute for practical experience
12:44.29AndyMillari'm going for "something to play with", not to get a CCNA :)
12:47.21morsingAndyMillar: I've got a 1700 for sale btw
12:48.26AndyMillardoes the 1700 take 2 adsl wics if necessary? :p
12:49.42morsingI believe so
12:49.51morsingBut this one doesn't have it
12:50.18AndyMillarcan get 'em for £40 from ebay
12:50.41AndyMillarhow much be a 1700?
12:51.16morsing£25
12:52.57antiphaseJust make sure you get one with enough RAM to support the IOS image you need, or it's a doorstop
12:53.30cpufreakand get the right model of 1700
12:53.36cpufreakas not all can take a wic-1dsl
12:53.45AndyMillarhmm
12:54.23antiphaseAlternatively just get an 837 if you want to play with IOS and you don't need more than one DSL connection
12:54.51antiphasehttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CISCO-SOHO-97-ADSL-VPN-Router-12-4-IOS-837-CCNA-Lab_W0QQitemZ110274110667QQihZ001QQcategoryZ73321QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
12:54.54antiphase35 quid
12:55.48AndyMillarantiphase: aiming for one that takes 2 :)
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13:01.50morsingcatalyst`!
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13:18.50morsingcata`lappy!
13:22.24morsingcata`lappy!
15:26.15kraptvI am getting my BT line hooked up... is bethere a good provider?
15:26.33kraptvwould you recommend anyone else?
15:26.43morsingNo-one else
15:27.06antiphaseIf you have the option of Be, you should probably take it
15:27.50kraptvI am in the Fulham Hammersmith area, and there doesnt seem to  be catv internet...
15:28.53antiphaseBe is by far the best bet at the moment, given their higher bandwidth product and the to-date lack of trottling or fair-use Nazism
15:29.15catalystlucky, the only thing we can reliably get here is cable
15:29.15antiphaseVirgin cable is shite by many accounts
15:29.20catalystwhich means virgin /o\
15:29.32kraptvso you guys are happy with be, are they one of the isps that digned up for piracy big brother?
15:29.36kraptvahh ok.
15:29.37catalystalthough they've been alright for us so far
15:29.50catalystbe are pretty much the only big ISP that didn't iirc
15:30.08antiphaseIf there's a piracy Big Brother movement, all of them will be drawn in under the threat of legislation eventually
15:30.15kraptvpardon my delayed reaction, I am ssh'd in from my Blackberry.
15:30.15morsingBeer
15:30.43kraptvbeer indeed.
15:32.37kraptvthank you foe your thoughts.. I am new to the area, from Portland Oregon, the home of OSCON and Linus Torvalds, the IBM Linux research facility, and OSDL, etc.
15:33.52antiphaseI thought Linus was from Finland
15:35.56kraptvyes but he  lives in portland
15:36.19morsingkraptv: Where's wethrin?
15:36.36kraptvand his kids hate to eat vegetables
15:37.26morsingkraptv: Who doesn't
15:37.58antiphaseGoonies!
15:47.44kraptvI am sorry but I do not understand wethrin... if I said Dawes Road would that work?
15:48.29Leedskraptv: wethrin is one of the #gllug regulars...
15:52.15morsingLeeds: The second longest staying resident, right?
15:52.23morsingkraptv: Shame on you
15:52.37Leedssome of the real old-timers come in sometimes
15:52.45morsingVery rarely
15:54.50morsingLeeds: I've turned the oven on now
15:55.00Leedsgood good
15:59.50morsingLeeds: What's for supper?
16:00.14Leedsnothing
16:01.44morsing:-/
16:01.49kraptvshame on me??? what did I do!
16:02.17kraptvmorsing: super noodles or takeaway from the kebab shop
16:02.30morsing:)
16:02.38Nafallohmm
16:02.43morsing16:47 < kraptv> I am sorry but I do not understand wethrin... if I said Dawes
16:02.45NafalloDominos would deliver
16:03.43kraptvwethrin is eating burgers at burger king
16:03.52kraptvand onion rings
16:04.44kraptvI had a lamoucin from a kebab shop and it was good, never had one before
16:04.45morsingNo he isn't
16:04.56kraptvsaw some locals buying em
16:06.05kraptvhow do you know he isnt?
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16:07.54morsingetorix!
16:08.05morsingkraptv: He doesn't eat at burger king
16:09.09kraptvhe saw the evil whopper advert and he fancied a big meaty disaster?
16:09.35morsingHe has taste (except for his curry addiction)
16:09.53kraptvI am clearly making this up to answer the question!
16:10.21kraptvhe is eating a vegetarian thali at masala zone
16:11.59halinothing wrong with a good curry
16:12.03haliat least indian curry
16:12.07halienglish curry can be very odd
16:14.38kraptvI am surprised how many subway restaraunts are  here.
16:15.14antiphaseAlmost as many as starbucks
16:15.28kraptvwell calling them restaraunts is an overstatement
16:16.10morsinghali: No such thing, "Good curry"
16:16.54haliim impressed
16:17.07halii've never ever heard of anyone who doesn't like curry
16:18.05morsingI didn't say I didn't like it
16:18.12halii took an american girl to a curry house once and she was very negative about it at first but i got her to order chicken shashlik and she liked that
16:18.34haliand most people can fall back on biryani
16:22.41haliand now i fancy chicken shashlik
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17:13.52morsingmikejw!
17:14.05morsingmikejw: You know a bit about music, right?
17:15.11mikejwhey morsing
17:15.24mikejwerm yeah a bit
17:18.32zaargcurry is the best thing ever
17:18.37zaargseriously
17:18.40morsingRiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
17:18.59zaargcurry and beer
17:19.04zaarg!
18:35.58morsinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ3-NnNx6Zs
18:36.05morsingmikejw: THAT'S THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!
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18:49.05morsingcurson!
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19:14.50kjalilhmm, for some reason I get on fine with hali, antiphase and ...
19:14.56kjalilhmm
19:15.02kjalilanyone here?
19:15.22halisup dawg
19:15.32kjalilhali: hi
19:16.00kjalilah, bilarh!
19:16.05kjalilhe hasn't been around for ages
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19:19.02morsingArmand!
19:19.20halibilarh is around ruing the days when idling at work
19:21.33ArmandHiya. :)
19:21.44Armandfinally got myself a mic for vent chat.
19:23.01ArmandAnd my mate's skype is being weird. ?_?
19:23.25morsingArmand: If you're on this channel you're a geek and not supposed to have friends
19:24.14Armandyeah.. it doesn't quite work like that, when you're the only person about who can build/install/use a PC properly. :P
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20:39.28morsingcata`lappy!
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21:41.33halihm, is it a bank holiday tomorrow?
21:41.59halionly in scottland?
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