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05:05.46 | morsing | Leeds! |
05:05.48 | morsing | gethoper! |
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07:00.30 | morsing | Stephmw! |
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07:03.19 | morsing | j0nr! |
07:03.26 | j0nr | morning |
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07:07.01 | morsing | sabinef72! |
07:37.02 | morsing | Anyone awake? |
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07:39.03 | morsing | sabinef72_! |
07:42.02 | j0nr | hello I am unfortunately awake |
07:42.15 | j0nr | and in work |
07:42.19 | morsing | j0nr: How does backreferences work in Perl matching? |
07:42.44 | j0nr | morsing: lol you're asking the wrong person! |
07:42.48 | j0nr | sorry |
07:42.49 | morsing | If I try to reference $2 is says undeclared variable! |
07:43.15 | j0nr | Perl...something that grows in an oyster! |
07:48.43 | boudiccas | wwhat is 'pcmcia'? if i dont have it will the wifi work? |
07:49.19 | morsing | boudiccas: Yes |
07:49.42 | morsing | Depending on what your wifi hw is plugged into of course |
07:49.56 | morsing | And how can youo not know? You always surprise me boudiccas :) |
07:50.17 | boudiccas | i've never used wifi so am a complete novice with it |
07:50.33 | morsing | I'm talking pcmcia |
07:50.49 | boudiccas | never used that either |
07:51.13 | morsing | But you're an IT interested person - still surprises me but end of discussion |
07:52.28 | boudiccas | its on a new laptop that i've just bought online |
07:52.39 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
07:52.39 | boudiccas | Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â DVDRW, PCMCIA Wifi, XP Pro |
07:55.00 | morsing | Right, so you'll need pcmcia then to get wifi working... |
07:55.14 | morsing | Don't even need IT knowledge to spot that :) |
07:56.48 | boudiccas | but i dont want wifi, i've not got a wifi modem/router |
07:57.20 | boudiccas | i just plug in the network cable and away i go |
07:57.44 | morsing | So why do you ask? |
07:57.47 | morsing | 08:48 < boudiccas> wwhat is 'pcmcia'? if i dont have it will the wifi work? |
07:57.55 | morsing | *sigh* |
07:58.16 | boudiccas | looks like i may have to get a wifi router then foir my network and a new wifi card for my present box |
07:59.12 | boudiccas | buying online you rely on the description which may include technical stuff that you've heard about but never had to use before |
07:59.29 | boudiccas | thats the case that i'm in |
08:04.09 | morsing | Nice |
08:15.15 | j0nr | heh |
08:21.42 | morsing | mkdir($today/$group, 0755) unless -d "$today . / . $group"; |
08:21.57 | morsing | How do I get it to understand I'm not trying to do division? |
08:29.31 | zaarg | good morning |
08:32.34 | morsing | zaarg: Help |
08:34.22 | zaarg | can't you just use ' quotes instead? |
08:37.43 | morsing | No |
08:37.52 | morsing | It insists it's division |
08:38.02 | zaarg | shrugs |
08:38.08 | morsing | Idiot |
08:38.16 | zaarg | um? |
08:38.28 | zaarg | i don't write bash for a living lolz |
08:38.38 | morsing | It's not bash |
08:38.49 | zaarg | some scripting language |
08:38.50 | zaarg | for idiots |
08:38.51 | morsing | And there's no need for shrugging, it's extremely rude |
08:39.03 | zaarg | i have higher things to think about |
08:39.05 | zaarg | :D |
08:40.56 | zaarg | sounds like a case of RTFM anyway |
08:41.52 | morsing | Idiot |
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08:49.24 | morsing | Stephmw!~ |
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08:58.17 | morsing | ChoHag! |
09:24.00 | kjalil | morning! |
09:26.37 | morsing | kjalil! |
09:28.10 | kjalil | since Lenny is close to release, is it wise for me to use it on a production server? It will become 'stable' soon, isn't it? |
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09:36.10 | mindbendr | morning |
09:40.21 | morsing | mindbendr! |
09:45.06 | ChoHag | Depends what you mean by wise. |
09:45.13 | ChoHag | I'd probably still stick to backports if I could. |
09:50.20 | bilarh_ | lehmans bro file for bankcruptcy? :S |
09:50.33 | morsing | steals bilarh_'s bacon |
09:54.36 | wethrin | Banks are being full of FAIL |
09:54.41 | morsing | Beer |
09:54.48 | wethrin | because they were being fucking stupid in the last couple of years |
09:56.21 | morsing | wethrin: Why does lsvg -o | lsvg -Mi fail in my script but not interactively? |
09:56.51 | wethrin | no idea |
09:56.54 | morsing | :( |
09:57.07 | wethrin | lsvg, I assume, lists volume groups? |
09:57.13 | morsing | Yes |
09:57.13 | wethrin | what does -o do? And -Mi ? |
09:57.14 | morsing | 0516-306 : Unable to find volume group prdb26vg in the Device Configuration Database. |
09:57.22 | morsing | It gets the right VG though... |
09:57.44 | morsing | How odd |
09:58.59 | morsing | That command fails consistently on all remote servers but no on the local one. Logging in to a remote server to run it works fine though |
09:59.09 | morsing | s/no/not/ |
10:03.07 | wethrin | Right. So how're you running it on the remote servers? |
10:03.11 | wethrin | rsh ? |
10:04.49 | morsing | Yes |
10:05.07 | wethrin | I'd guess that the pipe is doing something odd there |
10:05.38 | morsing | But the error message above is odd! It says some VG doesn't exist when it clearly does - Pipe or not |
10:05.51 | wethrin | so it's treating it like: (rsh server vgls -o) | lsvg -Mi |
10:06.03 | morsing | Ohhh!!! You're right |
10:06.11 | morsing | The last bit is running locally |
10:06.54 | wethrin | rsh server (lsvg -o | lsvg -Mi) # may DTRT, but I'm not sure |
10:07.10 | wethrin | (or, well, ssh is what you're supposed to be using nowadays) |
10:07.13 | morsing | DTRT? |
10:07.19 | wethrin | Do The Right Thing |
10:07.42 | morsing | ssh is no better than rsh - no sensitive information transferred |
10:08.21 | wethrin | ferrnuff. |
10:08.39 | morsing | Right, () doesn't work at all |
10:08.40 | wethrin | as long as you're doing it all on your local network :) |
10:09.04 | wethrin | mm. Pipes are complete bastards when mixing remote and local |
10:09.13 | morsing | '' seems to work |
10:09.28 | wethrin | okay - as long as that's being run remotely :) |
10:10.44 | morsing | rsh wethrin echo "Beer"> /dev/mouth |
10:10.52 | wethrin | Oi! |
10:10.56 | wethrin | That's going to your own /dev/mouth |
10:11.04 | morsing | I know ;) |
10:11.46 | morsing | wethrin: IPS has admitted that my dead grand parents only vaguely affect my passport application! |
10:12.02 | wethrin | IPS? |
10:12.11 | morsing | Something Passport Services |
10:12.21 | wethrin | well, it's good that they don't affect it a lot! |
10:12.23 | wethrin | k |
10:12.27 | morsing | Identity & Passport Services |
10:12.41 | wethrin | ah |
10:13.42 | morsing | wethrin: Where's Jenny? |
10:14.05 | wethrin | Durham. And you know this. |
10:14.11 | morsing | :-/ |
10:14.16 | morsing | She's not responding! |
10:14.55 | wethrin | well, she might not be in front of her computer yet |
10:15.10 | wethrin | not everyone responds within 10 minutes to email |
10:15.30 | wethrin | in fact, she may not even respond to your email, but merely note down the details |
10:15.31 | morsing | I demand undivided attention from everyone in the world! |
10:15.41 | wethrin | We know |
10:15.55 | wethrin | Oh, fuck off, eBay |
10:16.19 | wethrin | "Safari 3.0 is not a supported browser within the checkout flow." I'm sorry, but I've been using it for ages with your checkout flow |
10:16.45 | morsing | Change ident string |
10:17.07 | wethrin | See, if I hit cancel on that dialog box, it works fine |
10:17.21 | morsing | :D |
10:17.24 | morsing | Cheeky |
10:18.50 | wethrin | sigh. I never seem to have enough money :( |
10:19.02 | morsing | invoices wethrin |
10:19.05 | wethrin | NO |
10:19.14 | wethrin | I should invoice you for the help today :) |
10:19.18 | morsing | Sell your obos! |
10:19.22 | morsing | Help? |
10:19.24 | morsing | Oh! |
10:19.25 | morsing | runs |
10:19.31 | wethrin | the pipes |
10:19.47 | wethrin | I only have one oboe, and I'm not selling it |
10:19.55 | morsing | inserts a sossidge into wethrin's pipe |
10:20.14 | wethrin | ! |
10:35.26 | j0nr | why do I get a black screen when connecting remote desktop via VNC? |
10:35.38 | wethrin | screensaver? |
10:35.46 | morsing | You need to run it at the other end as well |
10:35.47 | ChoHag | Perhaps the remote has a box popped up asking the user whether to let you in. |
10:35.48 | wethrin | try moving the mouse |
10:35.49 | ChoHag | Using vino? |
10:35.54 | j0nr | shouldn't it go off when I shake my mouse/press key? |
10:36.01 | j0nr | yeah vino |
10:36.01 | wethrin | Also, what ChoHag said |
10:36.11 | wethrin | That's more likely |
10:36.11 | j0nr | just standard from the menu, allow remote desktop etc |
10:36.15 | morsing | VNC sucks |
10:36.24 | j0nr | it may suck but it usually works |
10:36.34 | ChoHag | morsing: But it sucks less than everything else which does what it does. |
10:36.38 | morsing | X |
10:36.58 | wethrin | X doesn't do what VNC does |
10:37.00 | ChoHag | X doesn't do what VNC does. |
10:37.04 | ChoHag | kaching. |
10:37.05 | wethrin | looks at ChoHag |
10:37.07 | wethrin | MY LINE! |
10:37.08 | j0nr | better solution? from a windows machine back to my ubuntu machine? |
10:37.14 | morsing | j0nr: X |
10:37.26 | morsing | j0nr: Buy a Sunray |
10:37.30 | j0nr | I dont know what you mean ? |
10:37.37 | ChoHag | j0nr: Two monitors. |
10:37.38 | wethrin | X doesn't DTRT in this case, morsing |
10:37.51 | j0nr | HUH? |
10:37.52 | morsing | It does |
10:38.02 | wethrin | X is fine for running an app remotely. But when the X server shuts down, so does the app |
10:38.06 | j0nr | im in work, want to remote desktop my computer at home |
10:38.07 | morsing | He hasn't even said what the right thing is! |
10:38.10 | j0nr | usually vnc is fine.. |
10:38.11 | wethrin | Yes he did |
10:38.25 | morsing | No he didn't - X does what he's said he wants |
10:38.26 | wethrin | VNC maintains state even when disconnected |
10:38.37 | wethrin | he said 'remote desktop' |
10:38.37 | morsing | 11:35 < j0nr> why do I get a black screen when connecting remote desktop via VNC? |
10:38.45 | morsing | Yes, which X does |
10:38.48 | ChoHag | Which is probably the most annoying thing I can think of about X. |
10:39.06 | wethrin | No, X allows running applications remotely while viewing them locally |
10:39.09 | wethrin | Different think |
10:39.11 | wethrin | *thing |
10:39.12 | morsing | No |
10:39.13 | ChoHag | I hate losing my desktop just to reboot and play some silly game. |
10:39.31 | morsing | wethrin: *sigh* XDM then! |
10:39.54 | wethrin | Sure, when you log in with XDM, it still won't keep the same things running as when you logged out |
10:39.59 | wethrin | X doesn't keep state |
10:40.01 | ChoHag | That's just /bin/login with a GUI. |
10:40.01 | j0nr | aha... i used XDMCP before |
10:40.04 | j0nr | that worked fine |
10:40.05 | morsing | Which he never said he needed!!!!!!!!!!!! |
10:40.28 | j0nr | but ... I am connecting....its just a black screen |
10:40.38 | j0nr | not the grey screen with weird cross curser |
10:40.41 | j0nr | cursor |
10:40.42 | morsing | j0nr: Yeah, I'm not going to help you anymore... |
10:40.47 | ChoHag | j0nr: Try putting a keyboard in the linux box and pressing space. |
10:40.49 | wethrin | Maybe I've been using Windows too long......but Remote Desktop is where you log in, and get your local computer's desktop. As it would be ify ou were sitting in front of it |
10:41.11 | morsing | wethrin: I think you have... |
10:41.59 | j0nr | ok i'm confused as to the responses after my question... |
10:42.18 | wethrin | Sunrays are very cool though, if a bit slow nowadays |
10:42.45 | ChoHag | j0nr: What are you trying to achieve? |
10:43.03 | ChoHag | For one, does remote mean 'somewhere else in the country' or 'next to me'? |
10:43.37 | j0nr | somewhere else in the country |
10:44.08 | j0nr | there is a pc running at home... I enabled remote desktop. now here at work I am using vncviewer on a windows machine |
10:44.18 | ChoHag | Running Gnome? |
10:44.30 | j0nr | lets me enter password and I get no errors, but just a black screen with a cursor |
10:44.39 | j0nr | Yeah Gnome |
10:44.46 | ChoHag | Can you SSH into the box? |
10:44.54 | j0nr | yep |
10:45.06 | ChoHag | Are you SSHing and running xvncviewer inside the SSH session? |
10:45.20 | j0nr | no |
10:45.26 | ChoHag | Good. That sucks. |
10:45.32 | j0nr | just a standalone exec. in windows |
10:45.37 | ChoHag | Do you have X locally or is it Windows? |
10:45.55 | j0nr | just windows |
10:46.08 | ChoHag | Hmm. |
10:46.11 | ChoHag | I need to get me a Gnome. |
10:46.13 | ChoHag | Wait there. |
10:46.46 | morsing | Could be a firewall problem easily |
10:47.06 | wethrin | wouldn't the firewall disallow the initial connection, though? |
10:47.08 | ChoHag | Unlikely if the password is requested and a window is displayed. |
10:47.20 | j0nr | has worked before into a different box |
10:47.43 | ChoHag | Just a moment. Wife's PC is booting... |
10:47.46 | j0nr | it looks like screensaver as suggested but won't clear |
10:48.00 | ChoHag | ... And not getting an IP. Wtf? |
10:48.15 | ChoHag | I need to get my private LAN running again. Not enough IPs on this one. |
10:49.54 | ChoHag | Bah. Why is hald hanging if the network's not there? |
10:50.19 | ChoHag | All this modern software that's been stuck into Linux to support Windo^WGnome is crap. |
10:50.20 | morsing | Beer |
10:50.37 | wethrin | All software sucks. |
10:50.40 | wethrin | It's well known |
10:50.49 | morsing | Didn't use to |
10:51.01 | morsing | dip switch programming ftw! |
10:51.01 | ChoHag | Yes it did. |
10:51.05 | morsing | No... |
10:51.11 | ChoHag | It may not have sucked quite as much, but it still sucked. |
10:51.14 | wethrin | DIP switch programming isn't really software :-P |
10:51.19 | morsing | Well... |
10:51.23 | ChoHag | It's hurtware. |
10:51.25 | wethrin | that's hardware fiddling, really |
10:51.32 | morsing | It worked |
10:55.15 | ChoHag | Right. |
10:55.22 | ChoHag | j0nr: What does 'gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/remote_access/prompt_enabled' say? |
10:58.19 | j0nr | ChoHag: I dont have that directory... |
10:58.34 | ChoHag | That's good. It's not a directory. |
10:58.45 | j0nr | lol hold on |
10:59.17 | j0nr | false |
10:59.26 | ChoHag | Well it's not that then. |
10:59.34 | j0nr | no i remember not checking that |
10:59.53 | j0nr | could it be dependant on whose logged into the box at home? |
10:59.58 | ChoHag | Yes. |
11:00.07 | j0nr | that may be it then |
11:00.10 | ChoHag | Who is? |
11:00.16 | j0nr | not me |
11:00.23 | morsing | It's me |
11:00.27 | ChoHag | It's easy enough to take over if you can get a prompt owned by them. |
11:00.29 | j0nr | well i am but not the current user |
11:00.52 | j0nr | can i force them to log out... |
11:00.59 | j0nr | its not actively a person using it |
11:01.08 | j0nr | just left in that state |
11:01.13 | ChoHag | You don't need to. |
11:01.19 | ChoHag | Can you su to that user? |
11:01.46 | j0nr | im not sure how |
11:01.58 | ChoHag | Although if you've got a shell you don't really need remote access. |
11:02.10 | ChoHag | su <user> |
11:02.19 | j0nr | yeah i know that but it helps with internt browsing at work ;) |
11:02.48 | j0nr | yes i can su that user |
11:03.08 | ChoHag | Do so, and run that gconftool again. |
11:03.27 | j0nr | remote desktop is not enabled for their log in |
11:03.35 | j0nr | unless doing it in onecovers all? |
11:04.15 | j0nr | returns true |
11:04.30 | ChoHag | Also .../enabled |
11:04.38 | ChoHag | Then gconftool -g /desktop/gnome/remote_access/vnc_password | perl -MMIME::Base64 -ne 'print decode_base64 ($_), "\n"' but don't tell us. |
11:05.41 | j0nr | dont tell you what/ |
11:05.56 | morsing | j0nr: How's the kids? |
11:06.11 | ChoHag | What the password is, which that command will reveal. |
11:06.25 | j0nr | .../enabled = false |
11:06.35 | j0nr | morsing: very good ta |
11:06.56 | morsing | Bet you're glad they're back in school? |
11:07.08 | ChoHag | Turn it on gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled true --type boolean |
11:07.16 | ChoHag | And tho prompt off with a similar command |
11:10.29 | j0nr | well one is only 3 months old |
11:10.36 | j0nr | so ill be glad when he just sleeps properly! |
11:10.47 | morsing | :) |
11:10.54 | morsing | We have the same problem with wethrin |
11:11.01 | morsing | Sleeping properly |
11:11.07 | j0nr | heh |
11:11.13 | wethrin | I sleep properly! |
11:11.17 | morsing | ;) |
11:12.57 | j0nr | ChoHag: the password one is blank |
11:13.57 | ChoHag | That's good then. |
11:14.30 | j0nr | do i need to set one? |
11:14.36 | j0nr | as it asks for one |
11:15.05 | j0nr | authentication failure! |
11:15.13 | ChoHag | It would be easier not to at this point probably. |
11:15.35 | ChoHag | Though that it was disabled with no password and yet asked for one implies to me that your vnc client is doing clever things which are failing. |
11:16.02 | j0nr | should i enable password? and if so... how ? :D |
11:16.36 | morsing | Cheese |
11:17.51 | ChoHag | You need to base64 encode the password and ensure passwords are being used. |
11:18.02 | ChoHag | It's probably just easier to turn it off - gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/remote_access/authentication_methods '[none]' --type list --list-type string |
11:18.15 | ChoHag | Then set a password once you've got to the desktop with nivo-preferences. |
11:18.17 | ChoHag | vine |
11:19.42 | j0nr | it seems my viewer really wants a pasword |
11:19.43 | wethrin | accuses morsing of being random again |
11:20.09 | morsing | dd if=/dev/randon of=/wethrin/brain |
11:20.14 | morsing | random |
11:20.19 | wethrin | radon! |
11:21.38 | j0nr | brb |
11:22.20 | ChoHag | gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/remote_access/authentication_methods '[vnc]' --type list --list-type string && gconftool -s /desktop/gnome/remote_access/vnc_password `perl -MMIME::Base64 -e 'print encode_base64 ("password")'` --type string |
11:22.54 | morsing | Bless you |
11:27.17 | ChoHag | Oh yeah - I have a job interview this afternoon. |
11:28.03 | morsing | Cool - didn't know you were unemployed? |
11:28.22 | ChoHag | I'm not. |
11:30.20 | ChoHag | Sometimes I think I'd rather be than stay where I am. |
11:30.33 | morsing | Nice - you've been there for years though |
11:30.36 | ChoHag | If only I didn't have to pay for living and internet and stuff. |
11:30.42 | ChoHag | Uh about 5 months. |
11:30.45 | morsing | ? |
11:31.03 | morsing | It's more than 5 months ago we went to Bletchley |
11:31.22 | ChoHag | No, that was years. |
11:31.30 | morsing | It's more than 5 months ago we went to Bletchley |
11:31.31 | bilarh_ | jesus christ, ftse 100 down 5% :S |
11:31.43 | morsing | bilarh_: Crab |
11:42.16 | *** join/#gllug Blapto (n=martin@62.189.100.228) |
11:42.23 | morsing | Blapto! |
11:42.33 | Blapto | Blapto! |
11:44.42 | wethrin | What does Bletchley have to do with ChoHag's job? |
11:44.55 | ChoHag | I have no idea, but he gave be a lift there a few years ago. |
11:45.09 | Blapto | Is he a taxi driver? |
11:45.22 | ChoHag | Not that I know of. |
11:46.47 | j0nr | bk |
11:47.15 | Blapto | Because that would explain giving people lifts to and fro. |
11:47.39 | j0nr | ChoHag: does that command need to be all in one hit, or can it be split by the && |
11:47.54 | ChoHag | Either way. |
11:48.05 | j0nr | its difficult for me to copy and paste it as it is spanning two lines and that seems to upset things here |
11:50.07 | morsing | wethrin: Well, as I recall he worked the same place when we went to Bletchley and he hasn't informed me otherwise |
11:51.00 | wethrin | Ah. Well, he did change jobs some months back |
11:51.10 | wethrin | he did mention it on #gllug a few times |
11:51.17 | wethrin | You maynot have been aroudn at the time |
11:51.26 | morsing | Nice - but at the time I didn't know that ChoHag = Matthew |
11:51.44 | wethrin | ahhhh, well :) |
11:52.02 | ChoHag | A few? |
11:52.29 | Blapto | Why are we talking about ChoHag as if he isn't here? |
11:53.02 | morsing | ChoHag: Yeah, why aren't you here? |
11:54.21 | ChoHag | shrugs |
11:54.27 | morsing | *sigh* |
11:55.08 | wethrin | ChoHag: More than a few? |
11:55.25 | ChoHag | Almost every other day I seem to recall. |
11:56.18 | morsing | Beer |
11:57.25 | wethrin | maybe true |
11:57.43 | wethrin | ponders an /ignore regexp for the word "Beer" on its own |
11:57.54 | morsing | Beer ftw |
11:58.00 | wethrin | that's true |
11:59.13 | ChoHag | Hmm. One giant mail partition, or split postfix onto its own? |
11:59.41 | morsing | ? |
12:00.39 | wethrin | onto its own? |
12:00.46 | wethrin | You mean, have /var/mail separate? |
12:00.47 | ChoHag | I think keep them together. No need to complicate things. |
12:01.21 | ChoHag | Do I put /var/mail (actually /var/{spool,lib}/cyrus) and /var/lib/postfix onte the same or separate partitions. |
12:05.26 | antiphase | Doesn't make any difference as long as you have enough disk ops to go round |
12:05.42 | antiphase | If it's all on one disk, you fail anyway |
12:06.37 | ChoHag | It's not. It's on (counts...) 7. |
12:06.46 | ChoHag | Would be 6, but I had to pretend 2 160s were one 360. |
12:06.50 | ChoHag | 320 |
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12:21.02 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
12:39.49 | morsing | http://www.bluedust.dontexist.com/bibliography/ |
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12:50.31 | morsing | popey! |
12:50.34 | morsing | rhowe! |
12:51.06 | popey | netsplit :( |
12:51.10 | morsing | :(( |
13:05.51 | kraptv | the ghost of lilo. |
13:06.05 | Stephmw | poltergeist! |
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13:20.43 | morsing | popey! |
13:22.07 | popey | :) |
13:22.16 | morsing | popey: How are the kids? |
13:23.09 | popey | very well thank you morsing |
13:23.14 | popey | just both had birthdays - 2 and 5 |
13:23.20 | popey | lots of cake \o/ |
13:23.23 | morsing | Nice :) Back to school then? |
13:23.27 | morsing | Woo - cake :) |
13:23.32 | popey | yeah |
13:23.52 | popey | we had a bouncy castle - i had a sly bounce in the name of QA |
13:24.08 | morsing | :) |
13:25.51 | kjs | is there any truth behind burning cds slower = better/ stronger burn / disc is read better by players... |
13:26.33 | wethrin | No |
13:32.04 | j0nr | ChoHag: didnt work... will wait til i get home and just switch users |
13:32.15 | j0nr | ChoHag: thanks for your help tho |
13:39.41 | kjs | wethrin: you replying to me? |
13:41.02 | morsing | kjs: Yes |
13:43.17 | wethrin | kjs: Yes |
13:44.20 | mindbendr | nagios 2.x or 3.x ? |
13:49.48 | kraptv | Where would you guys go for a cheap HDMI to DVI adaptor locally? |
13:50.03 | morsing | Greggs |
13:50.17 | kjs | hum, i wouldjust order from cpc next day ? |
13:50.34 | kraptv | Beer! |
13:50.51 | morsing | kraptv: How inappropriate! |
13:50.56 | kraptv | heh heh heh. |
13:51.01 | kraptv | :-) |
13:51.52 | morsing | kraptv: What's for tea? |
13:52.03 | kraptv | Ooh, HobNobs! |
13:52.15 | kraptv | the caramel kind! |
13:52.23 | kjs | tea thats a great idea |
13:52.24 | Blapto | HOBNOOOOOBS |
13:52.24 | morsing | That's a light tea...?! |
13:52.37 | morsing | Hopboobs |
13:54.27 | ChoHag | What's a Hobnoob? |
13:55.31 | wethrin | Soemone who's new to hobnobs? |
13:55.35 | wethrin | hobn00b |
13:56.13 | morsing | Cawfy |
13:56.38 | Blapto | beer |
14:04.39 | kraptv | G&T! |
14:05.50 | morsing | Crumpets! |
14:06.44 | morsing | No? |
14:07.03 | Blapto | beer |
16:24.42 | kraptv | <PROTECTED> |
16:24.45 | kraptv | whoops! |
16:25.08 | morsing | Yuck |
16:25.52 | kraptv | :-( sorry |
16:26.20 | Blapto | tea |
16:26.21 | defaultIRCuser44 | hi im new to irc |
16:26.34 | wethrin | lol newb!! OMG111! kthxbbq!1! |
16:26.35 | Blapto | defaultIRCuser44: there's a really cool command |
16:26.40 | wethrin | /disco stu |
16:26.46 | wethrin | Makes your IRC client light up |
16:27.17 | Blapto | Try /part #gllug and it will kick someone at random |
16:31.04 | AndyMillar | cool, i never knew that |
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16:50.05 | mindbendr | have a good evening all |
17:18.14 | morsing | pawel! |
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18:32.02 | morsing | Stephmw! |
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20:29.38 | morsing | cruzzle! |
20:29.40 | morsing | j! |
20:29.42 | morsing | is! |
20:39.34 | cruzzle | Cawfy |
20:45.08 | morsing | Tea |
20:45.21 | morsing | (I'm British now) |
20:45.30 | cruzzle | Congrats! what were you before? |
20:45.47 | morsing | Danish |
20:46.03 | morsing | You're the *first* one who's responded with "Congrats"!¬ |
20:46.18 | morsing | Most people just go "WHY?!?!?!" |
20:47.30 | cruzzle | Danish! No more salty licorice for you! |
20:47.48 | Nafallo | how many years do one need to have lived here? |
20:47.52 | cruzzle | Do you know the band Danseorkestret? |
20:48.27 | hali | sounds very danish |
20:49.06 | hali | english citizenship, nevah' |
20:49.19 | hali | no advantage over most other contries |
20:49.27 | hali | in wester europe anyway |
20:49.32 | hali | perhaps over like romania |
20:49.48 | cruzzle | romania with all of those hot pale girls and cryptic curses! |
20:50.28 | hali | the girls, given that they are willing to please us, are welcome to imigrate |
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20:50.52 | hali | phew, perfect timing on that one |
20:50.58 | morsing | boudiccas! |
20:51.03 | morsing | hali: you're missing the point |
20:51.20 | hali | enlighten me |
20:51.20 | morsing | Nafallo: Five years but you must have exercised your treaty right for six |
20:51.59 | morsing | hali: When you hate your home country with all your guts it gives you a nasty feeling having their nationality to your name |
20:52.53 | hali | fair enough |
20:53.08 | morsing | And I finally feel free |
20:53.11 | hali | i don't see why though |
20:53.26 | hali | you must have had some really bad pölse or something |
20:53.31 | morsing | hali: Well, you're not Danish so will never understand |
20:54.02 | hali | i do like denmark and most danish people |
20:54.07 | hali | skagern is nice |
20:54.13 | hali | good light |
20:54.26 | morsing | But you're not Danish so you'll never understand |
20:54.34 | morsing | And you don't like me... |
20:54.35 | hali | i do respect your view on denmark |
20:54.44 | morsing | I'm glad :) |
20:54.47 | sabinef72 | hi all |
20:54.49 | hali | i can't say i like japan |
20:54.50 | morsing | sabinef72! |
20:55.01 | morsing | Japan is the most amazing place I've ever been |
20:55.21 | hali | i don't like the fake culture |
20:55.27 | hali | it all feel so fake |
20:55.28 | morsing | It's not fake |
20:55.36 | hali | very special and interesting at first |
20:55.50 | morsing | It's a culture that hasn't been americanised like everywhere else |
20:55.54 | sabinef72 | morsing: when did you go in Japan ? |
20:56.00 | morsing | sabinef72: 2001 |
20:56.06 | sabinef72 | I didn't know |
20:56.13 | morsing | sabinef72: I'm sure you did :) |
20:56.36 | morsing | sabinef72: Sorry I didn't send you a postcard :( |
20:56.41 | sabinef72 | ah ah |
20:56.46 | hali | fake |
20:56.49 | boudiccas | they had to take him back in 2002 to apologise for all the things that he'd gotten wrong |
20:57.12 | morsing | Denmark is certainly fake - americaphiles |
20:57.13 | hali | all the "good" stuff in japan has got a backside, like low crime etc |
20:57.22 | morsing | OMG |
20:57.24 | hali | thye have low crime rates as they sweep lots of crime under the carpet |
20:57.31 | morsing | Right, time for bed - no more rubbish |
20:57.50 | hali | strict border control etc, still tehy let morsing in ;) |
20:58.32 | boudiccas | everybody makes a mistake now and again |
20:58.36 | hali | yes |
20:58.43 | sabinef72 | nn morsing |
20:58.47 | hali | prostitution is a big 'problem' in japan |
20:58.53 | boudiccas | nn morsing old chap |
20:58.56 | hali | they don't see it as a problem tho, im not sure why my view is tbh |
20:59.09 | hali | i do feel sorry for the girls |
20:59.18 | hali | (and probably a few male prossies too) |
20:59.58 | boudiccas | but they have ahistory of geisha girls, its part of their culture |
21:00.02 | hali | but compared to the alternatives it's probably not that bad |
21:00.13 | sabinef72 | same in Thailand |
21:00.28 | cruzzle | morsing, so no to Danseorkestret? |
21:00.34 | hali | so it's acceptable and we should respect it just becuase it's 'history'? |
21:00.36 | cruzzle | or salty licorice? |
21:01.01 | hali | what about the poor girls who get abused by fat disgusting men |
21:01.34 | sabinef72 | what about the poor kids who get abused by fat disgusting men in Thailand ? |
21:02.03 | hali | same there, we shouldn't accept it just because it's "mainstream" and it happens all the time |
21:02.11 | hali | still sick |
21:02.24 | sabinef72 | true |
21:02.27 | boudiccas | anybody notice how gary glitter hs dropped off the radar since he returned to the uk |
21:02.48 | hali | i hope he stays under the radar, i have no interest in him |
21:02.59 | hali | as long as he keeps to himself |
21:03.01 | sabinef72 | who is Gary Glitter ? |
21:03.07 | hali | what did glitter say to jacko? |
21:03.18 | boudiccas | an aging 70's rock pop star |
21:03.18 | hali | "i'll trade you two fivers for a tenner" |
21:03.28 | hali | so wrong |
21:03.30 | sabinef72 | oh |
21:03.52 | hali | he was convited for some pedo stuff in thailand a few years ago, now released and back in england |
21:04.00 | hali | convicted* |
21:04.16 | boudiccas | who got realised from thailand prison about a month ago and tried to go to several far eastern countries but they refused to accept him, so eventually he ahd no option but to come back to the uk and afce the music |
21:04.17 | sabinef72 | arg |
21:04.21 | boudiccas | *face |
21:04.55 | hali | he's a real creap |
21:05.28 | boudiccas | i liked the stage persona of garry glitter but not the real person behind it all |
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21:05.37 | boudiccas | evening DiscordianUK |
21:06.26 | DiscordianUK | good evening |
21:06.38 | DiscordianUK | finally gets back online |
21:07.00 | boudiccas | problems? |
21:08.44 | DiscordianUK | yeah router lost it'sconfig |
21:09.21 | cpufreak | how did that take you a week to fix? |
21:09.25 | DiscordianUK | and i'd forgotten the router password |
21:09.40 | DiscordianUK | it hasn't taken me a week |
21:10.11 | DiscordianUK | it took an hour or so today find my notes |
21:11.59 | hali | i hope we have no lehmans employees here :) |
21:12.37 | DiscordianUK | have they started jumping out of windows yet? |
21:13.03 | hali | i hope not |
21:13.12 | hali | we lost about $2m pa in business |
21:13.28 | DiscordianUK | ouch |
21:13.48 | hali | well, risk loosing anyway, very likely |
21:14.06 | hali | unless the buyer takes on our systems |
21:14.10 | hali | if ther will be a buyer :) |
21:14.26 | DiscordianUK | maybe it's chapter 21 anything could happen |
21:35.06 | cruzzle | join #orlug |
21:35.12 | cruzzle | I had an 8GB but I think I lost it. :-( |
21:35.19 | cruzzle | in the move. |
21:36.40 | DiscordianUK | an 8gb what? |
21:36.53 | DiscordianUK | and wtf is #orlug |
21:37.27 | cruzzle | Aww shit! |
21:37.34 | cruzzle | why do I keep doing that today! |
21:37.41 | cruzzle | I am honestly horrible! |
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