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| 06:28.39 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:31.38 | Leeds | reboot time in a mo |
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| 06:55.59 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 06:56.02 | morsing | nixofortune! |
| 06:56.16 | nixofortune | morsing! |
| 06:56.23 | nixofortune | hi |
| 06:56.58 | nixofortune | i changed my nick. used to be zmey_g |
| 06:57.42 | nixofortune | how doing morsing |
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| 07:25.16 | morsing | nixofortune: Oh! Hi :) |
| 07:25.19 | morsing | nixofortune: Great :) |
| 07:25.31 | morsing | nixofortune: Had a date with a model last night |
| 07:31.09 | nixofortune | morsing: ) how was she |
| 07:33.01 | morsing | She was really nice. She denied being posh though, laughing all night about the fact I said she was :D |
| 07:33.46 | nixofortune | i thought you r married man. |
| 07:34.11 | morsing | *sigh* No :(((((((((((((((( |
| 07:34.17 | morsing | And why did you think that? |
| 07:34.41 | nixofortune | don't know. |
| 07:34.57 | nixofortune | you look like one |
| 07:35.40 | nixofortune | sad and desperate "just joking" |
| 07:36.03 | morsing | I do?!?! |
| 07:36.10 | morsing | You've lost me |
| 07:36.30 | morsing | nixofortune: http://www.morsing.cc/photos/Nat.jpg |
| 07:36.55 | nixofortune | very nice girl |
| 07:37.50 | nixofortune | my wife a photographer. she deals with this public |
| 07:38.07 | nixofortune | cool |
| 07:40.39 | nixofortune | looking at your pictures |
| 07:43.44 | morsing | My pictures? |
| 07:44.44 | nixofortune | yeah. on your web site |
| 07:45.11 | nixofortune | ttp://www.morsing.cc/ |
| 07:46.35 | morsing | Ok - lots missing though. Got another 2000 to put up |
| 07:47.56 | nixofortune | Chevelle is beautiful |
| 07:48.33 | morsing | :) |
| 07:48.34 | nixofortune | left side driving weal!!! |
| 07:48.37 | morsing | Pile of junk |
| 07:48.42 | nixofortune | eee |
| 07:48.59 | morsing | ? |
| 07:49.09 | nixofortune | http://www.morsing.cc/imm.php?STED=Chevelle&phid=828&i=3 |
| 07:49.34 | morsing | ?? |
| 07:49.54 | morsing | That crappy steering wheel was the first thing on the car to be replaced |
| 07:50.21 | nixofortune | i sad driving wheel on the wrong side )) |
| 07:50.47 | nixofortune | it's like on my own car |
| 07:51.13 | morsing | ... |
| 07:51.43 | nixofortune | have to go. It's LUG meeting in Guildford today |
| 07:52.17 | nixofortune | i haven't been there for 6 months or so |
| 07:53.34 | nixofortune | is GLUG dead? the next meeting on 15 March |
| 07:57.45 | morsing | It is dead, yes, but don't tell wethrin - he's in denial |
| 08:03.57 | nixofortune | ( too bad. linuxexpo in london next week. can't wait |
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| 09:14.28 | morsing | axelS! |
| 09:18.49 | axelS | morsing! |
| 09:23.12 | Leeds | has a sick gf |
| 09:23.36 | gregj-uk | mentaly, or she has flu or something ? |
| 09:29.09 | morsing | Leeds: US kind sick or UK kind sick? |
| 09:29.22 | Leeds | she has vomited twice today |
| 09:29.38 | morsing | :( |
| 09:29.41 | gregj-uk | pregnant ? |
| 09:30.07 | gregj-uk | (geeks talking about woman sickness, priceless) |
| 09:39.19 | wethrin | morsing: I'm not in denial about Gllug being mostly-dead. However, I actually made an effort to organise some meetings before I ended up having too much to do. You've made no effort to organise any meetings. |
| 09:40.15 | wethrin | So I think I can quite reasonably be irritated by people who clam sonething's dead while not making any effort themselves to try and keep it alive |
| 09:41.07 | morsing | wethrin: How so? The statement "It's dead" has nothing whatsoever to do with anyone's willingness to keep it alive? It's a self-contained statement! |
| 09:41.16 | morsing | s/?/!/ |
| 09:41.31 | morsing | Aaqrggg - second ? not the first |
| 09:41.49 | morsing | gregj-uk: I'm not a geek |
| 09:42.43 | wethrin | "It's dead" is a blanket, final statement. "It's dead at the moment; we're working on more meetings" would be better |
| 09:42.59 | morsing | We? |
| 09:43.04 | morsing | I'm not... |
| 09:43.18 | wethrin | Well, you should be |
| 09:43.19 | morsing | I can't tell people that someone else is working on something |
| 09:43.22 | morsing | I shouldn't... |
| 09:45.53 | Leeds | wethrin: to be fair, he shouldn't |
| 09:46.16 | Leeds | wethrin: neither should you, greg or I |
| 09:46.40 | morsing | Clive should... |
| 09:47.12 | wethrin | Someone actually in London should |
| 09:48.22 | gregj-uk | morsing: yes, you're british |
| 09:48.32 | gregj-uk | morsing: that makes you a geek |
| 09:49.05 | gregj-uk | how about for a gllug meeting in Belfast |
| 09:49.07 | gregj-uk | ;> |
| 09:50.27 | morsing | Budapest |
| 09:50.51 | morsing | wethrin: Now that spypigeon works in Warwick he obviously can't |
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| 12:44.53 | gregj-uk | anyone with oil heating here ? |
| 12:45.05 | morsing | No - we're in the UK |
| 12:45.10 | morsing | gregj-uk: Why? |
| 12:45.17 | gregj-uk | for your information, NI is part of UK |
| 12:45.35 | morsing | Why do you ask? |
| 12:45.38 | gregj-uk | but not part of GB, which is a geograpical term for "main island" |
| 12:45.44 | gregj-uk | cos we do have oil heating |
| 12:45.51 | gregj-uk | just like some ppl in scotland |
| 12:45.56 | gregj-uk | and probably england too |
| 12:46.03 | morsing | gregj-uk: Don't tell NI people this - believe me, I know you're right but they don't believe you and get upset |
| 12:46.22 | antiphase | Since when have all you foreigners been so interested in the minutiae of the UK? |
| 12:46.51 | gregj-uk | but it wasn't used for a while, and I was wondering, what should I check before starting it |
| 12:46.59 | morsing | antiphase: I got in trouble with my boss at work once for trying to explain to my NI colleague that NI isn't in Britain |
| 12:47.11 | morsing | gregj-uk: Check it's got oil |
| 12:47.11 | gregj-uk | morsing: trust me, I live here for over a month now, I know what I can ask the locals about and how |
| 12:47.19 | gregj-uk | I bought a fucking oil today |
| 12:50.17 | gregj-uk | I really love when ppl assume I am intelligent enough, in conversation |
| 12:50.39 | wethrin | United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland |
| 12:50.42 | wethrin | The clue's in the name |
| 12:52.02 | wethrin | There''s probably very little you can check with oil heating, other than the level of oil |
| 12:55.34 | wethrin | Turn it on, and if you smell burning, turn it off |
| 12:55.52 | wethrin | http://eliasqfuntybunt.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/linux-and-marketing-a-rant/ |
| 12:56.40 | gregj-uk | what about air in pipes and stuff like that |
| 12:56.53 | gregj-uk | I mean that has to be some water in heating system probably |
| 12:57.05 | gregj-uk | and since it has not been used for some time, it evaporated by now |
| 12:57.42 | antiphase | If you think water can evaporate from a sealed heating system, you should probably consult a qualified person |
| 12:58.15 | gregj-uk | it is sealed, fair enough, but you'll still end up with minor leaks |
| 12:58.30 | gregj-uk | trust me, I have gas heater in other place, and you have to add water to it every month-two |
| 12:58.34 | gregj-uk | not much, but still |
| 12:58.36 | gregj-uk | so... |
| 12:58.54 | gregj-uk | don't try to be smarter than you are |
| 12:59.06 | antiphase | laughs heartily |
| 12:59.45 | gregj-uk | smirks, and says 'pff, arogant ignorants' |
| 12:59.49 | antiphase | I detect someone that's not going to get on too well in the UK |
| 12:59.52 | wethrin | Air you can bleed out of radiators |
| 13:00.11 | gregj-uk | antiphase: 6 years, and doing well |
| 13:00.50 | gregj-uk | but I have to say, there's more ignorants here than on mainland, just takes some time to get used to that |
| 13:00.53 | gregj-uk | ;p |
| 13:01.09 | wethrin | If you turn the central heating pump on, you'll hear if there's air in the system |
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| 13:01.38 | antiphase | Then the pump will seize if there's no water |
| 13:01.40 | antiphase | \o/ |
| 13:01.45 | gregj-uk | question is, does it have a valve somewhere that I have to turn on, and wait for pressure to come to certain level, or will it just do it by it self |
| 13:02.08 | antiphase | would answer, but apparently isn't qualified |
| 13:02.09 | gregj-uk | with gas eating, you have to turn on a valve for a bit, untill the pressure comes to right value, turn it off, and than turn on heating |
| 13:02.24 | gregj-uk | but it is probably a slightly different thing with oil heating |
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| 13:03.14 | gregj-uk | I am asking, cos I know from expierence, that things are done differently in different parts of world, and not trying to be smarter than I should |
| 13:03.46 | wethrin | antiphase: If there's no water, sure. If there's just some air bubbles, it's not going to do damage |
| 13:04.11 | gregj-uk | anyway, lemme see |
| 13:04.27 | antiphase | I'm just far too ignorant to know anything about central heating. Oh yes. |
| 13:04.32 | antiphase | is a fucking retard |
| 13:04.41 | gregj-uk | and a child |
| 13:05.13 | antiphase | I'm 30 years old, so your hypothesis is incorrect |
| 13:05.52 | Leeds | curry time! |
| 13:05.57 | gregj-uk | rright |
| 13:06.06 | gregj-uk | would order some chinesse, but is broke again |
| 13:08.00 | morsing | z00dax! |
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| 13:33.31 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 14:02.22 | Leeds | has curry now |
| 14:06.44 | morsing | Yuck |
| 14:10.31 | antiphase | curry++ |
| 14:19.06 | z00dax | morsing: checkit |
| 14:22.41 | morsing | Beer |
| 14:22.44 | morsing | curry--------- |
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| 19:27.05 | morsing | nixofortune! |
| 19:27.15 | nixofortune | ) |
| 19:28.18 | nixofortune | came home from guidford after surrey LUG |
| 19:30.27 | morsing | Was Sharon there? |
| 19:30.58 | nixofortune | morsing: ho's Sharon? |
| 19:32.10 | nixofortune | 's/ho's/who's/' |
| 19:32.38 | DiscordianUK | sharon was at the maidstone social |
| 19:32.41 | DiscordianUK | i think |
| 19:32.45 | nixofortune | no |
| 19:33.10 | morsing | nixofortune: *sigh* How long have you been on this channel? |
| 19:33.42 | nixofortune | i haven't been here for 6 months or so |
| 19:34.09 | nixofortune | maybe more |
| 19:34.58 | morsing | More... |
| 19:35.58 | nixofortune | i will pick up things again |
| 19:36.08 | nixofortune | no worries |
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| 20:08.31 | DiscordianUK | ullo kitty |
| 20:08.41 | Kitty | chatty bunch |
| 20:08.56 | DiscordianUK | it's very quiet |
| 20:09.52 | boudiccas | its saturday night, its bound to be qui*t |
| 20:10.00 | morsing | Kitty! |
| 20:10.24 | Kitty | morsing: you are aware that i have a little tally chart here for everytime you great me that way |
| 20:10.28 | Kitty | and when we next meet |
| 20:10.38 | Kitty | I am going to slap you once for each time |
| 20:10.41 | morsing | ... |
| 20:11.05 | morsing | boudiccas: Kitty is being mean to me :( |
| 20:11.39 | boudiccas | morsing; no doubt you deserve it |
| 20:11.48 | morsing | ... |
| 20:12.02 | boudiccas | you're a big boy now morsing you can stand up for yourself |
| 20:12.07 | Kitty | morsing: have you any idea how much crap I get about "Kitty!" and "hello kitty!" and "you're a kitty" ?? |
| 20:12.14 | Kitty | boudiccas: no he's not |
| 20:12.35 | boudiccas | he's not? |
| 20:13.30 | Kitty | morsing is hardly someone we would consider overly endowed in verticality |
| 20:14.52 | boudiccas | but he's got a nice hairstyle |
| 20:14.59 | Kitty | its not my taste |
| 20:15.29 | boudiccas | how often do you go round tasting mens hairstyles? :) |
| 20:15.45 | Kitty | depends |
| 20:15.57 | Kitty | I don't generally do men ... |
| 20:16.15 | DiscordianUK | likewise |
| 20:21.44 | hali | good evening |
| 20:21.59 | Kitty | hello hali |
| 20:22.01 | DiscordianUK | hi hali |
| 20:22.24 | hali | Kitty: hows business, sellling vps' like butter? |
| 20:22.42 | Kitty | not like butter, but sales are ok |
| 20:22.44 | Kitty | could do better |
| 20:22.48 | Kitty | would you like to buy a vm ? |
| 20:22.56 | DiscordianUK | haha |
| 20:23.04 | hali | i'm alright, i've hidden three servers in a closet at my old employeer |
| 20:23.12 | Kitty | lol |
| 20:23.55 | hali | do you do sun vms yet? |
| 20:24.03 | hali | or all xen |
| 20:24.35 | Kitty | al xen |
| 20:24.40 | DiscordianUK | solaris zones? |
| 20:24.45 | Kitty | tho its a heavily customized xen |
| 20:24.46 | hali | joyent own that market it seems |
| 20:24.59 | Kitty | solaris zones just aren't upto the job right now |
| 20:25.35 | DiscordianUK | i concluded that about openvz too |
| 20:25.56 | Kitty | xen is an appalling solution |
| 20:26.00 | Kitty | but its the best of a bad bunch |
| 20:26.55 | DiscordianUK | so many virt solutions |
| 20:27.32 | hali | virtuozzo seems ok, but a bit pricey |
| 20:27.38 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:27.50 | hali | lots of vps providers use virtuozzo |
| 20:28.03 | Kitty | hali: and all the decent ones use xen |
| 20:28.16 | Kitty | virtuozzo allows for overselling |
| 20:28.26 | Kitty | xen gives dedicated resources. |
| 20:28.39 | DiscordianUK | unless there's some magic in virtuozzo that's not in openvz i'd avoid |
| 20:28.47 | hali | probably why less-than-honest companies use virtuozzo |
| 20:28.52 | Kitty | hali: quite |
| 20:29.11 | hali | and it comes with pretty provisioning software out of the box |
| 20:29.16 | Kitty | ultimately, I would love a Z series running VM |
| 20:29.25 | hali | yeah that would be pretty cool |
| 20:29.36 | Kitty | but it uses 5kw jus tto sit there |
| 20:29.44 | DiscordianUK | mm a mainframe |
| 20:29.47 | Kitty | yeah |
| 20:29.49 | hali | and capex is pretty high |
| 20:29.53 | Kitty | and takes up the space of about 3 racks |
| 20:29.59 | DiscordianUK | i'd love to do that too |
| 20:30.49 | DiscordianUK | but we should be greening the planet |
| 20:31.06 | DiscordianUK | and z-series aren't green |
| 20:31.08 | hali | mainframes are the greenest boxes you can buy |
| 20:31.11 | Kitty | they are |
| 20:31.21 | Kitty | when you consider you can get several thousand vm's on one box |
| 20:31.26 | hali | as avg utilization is high |
| 20:31.36 | DiscordianUK | i guess |
| 20:32.01 | DiscordianUK | but the construction isn't green |
| 20:32.40 | Kitty | when the worlds end, its going to be z series and cockroaches |
| 20:32.50 | hali | :) |
| 20:32.54 | Kitty | maybe some of the old sun kit |
| 20:33.10 | hali | yeah, sun isn't what it used to be |
| 20:33.20 | DiscordianUK | what kind of sun kit? |
| 20:33.29 | hali | i was upgrading a sun v880 the other day and compared to the new boxes it's just so rock solid hw |
| 20:33.41 | hali | 880 was the last true sun box |
| 20:33.45 | hali | well, 890 too |
| 20:34.16 | DiscordianUK | sparcs ftw |
| 20:34.41 | hali | i run my X on that box these days, much faster :) |
| 20:34.44 | hali | 32gb ram in it |
| 20:34.51 | Kitty | needs to rebuild her sparc coffee table... |
| 20:35.02 | DiscordianUK | heh |
| 20:35.18 | DiscordianUK | what sparcs died for that? |
| 20:35.44 | Kitty | IPX, IPC, Classic, 2, 2, 5, 5, 10, 10, 20 , 20 |
| 20:36.10 | DiscordianUK | must be a big table |
| 20:36.37 | Kitty | I used to use a 5 and a beer keg... |
| 20:37.09 | DiscordianUK | i've an ipx,ss2, ss10 and ss5/170 |
| 20:38.17 | DiscordianUK | i'm not ready to skip the ultras just yet |
| 20:38.49 | Kitty | heh |
| 20:39.56 | Kitty | anyone know the going rate for a plaster ? |
| 20:40.25 | DiscordianUK | plaster? |
| 20:40.35 | Kitty | plasterer |
| 20:40.53 | DiscordianUK | no idea |
