| 00:22.08 | z00dax | so, anyone planning on coming down to linuxworld ? |
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| 05:28.58 | morsing | 'morning |
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| 06:58.33 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 07:19.15 | bilarh_ | morning |
| 07:19.38 | ChoHag | It is that, isn't it? |
| 07:22.19 | bilarh_ | it is indeed |
| 07:22.23 | bilarh_ | and what a glorious morning |
| 07:22.35 | bilarh_ | bring on the weekend with the rain, i say |
| 07:22.40 | ChoHag | Aye. Apart from the sun shining directly into my eyes. |
| 07:25.37 | ChoHag | How would you go about telling a management type that being emailed a report every morning to check when you're on call is not worth it? |
| 07:25.53 | ChoHag | Actually it's several reports, full of 'ok' lines. |
| 07:26.04 | bilarh_ | i'd collate it into one report |
| 07:26.12 | bilarh_ | that only gets mailed when something is *not* ok |
| 07:26.23 | bilarh_ | alterntaively, create such a report jsut for yourself |
| 07:26.57 | bilarh_ | i used to work in a place where i had to fill in an excel spreadsheet with dumb info like that |
| 07:27.17 | bilarh_ | so in the end i wrote a perl script that looked at the reports and generated exactly what i needed to paste into my column :) |
| 07:28.31 | ChoHag | The emails are in Lotus, so getting them into some perl is proving difficult. |
| 07:46.00 | morsing | Beer |
| 07:53.37 | Leeds | considers aversion therapy |
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| 09:31.12 | Provito | I've got to setup a backup solution for my in-laws. He's a photographer so space is a must and I want a RAID solution. Any cost effective ideas? |
| 09:31.24 | morsing | RAID != Backup |
| 09:32.19 | Provito | I played into your hands there didn't I |
| 09:32.19 | Provito | I'll be backing up the device remotely onto an external server |
| 09:32.19 | morsing | Nice |
| 09:32.21 | morsing | TSM is the best |
| 09:33.08 | Provito | I've been looking at external nas setups, raid 1 with a couple of 1 TB hd's |
| 09:33.50 | Provito | however it may be easier just to get a lower power server setup with external (possibly eSata) hd's |
| 10:13.07 | Provito | ok looks like the icybox nas is linux based and you can ssh into it |
| 10:13.26 | Provito | stick a couple of 1tb drives in raid1 and remotely rsync the contents out at night to backup |
| 10:21.32 | Leeds | hometime, then pubquiz time! |
| 10:23.57 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:38.39 | morsing | *yawn* |
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| 10:54.19 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 10:59.07 | bilarh_ | wtf |
| 10:59.12 | bilarh_ | stabs all developers in the face |
| 10:59.26 | morsing | removes the knife from Leeds' nose |
| 10:59.28 | bilarh_ | so, our developers have started installing stuff on our fucking nfs server |
| 10:59.30 | bilarh_ | s |
| 11:00.03 | bilarh_ | and they're now "testing" software on one of the most important servers we have |
| 11:00.08 | bilarh_ | what the *fuck*?!?!!? |
| 11:01.44 | Leeds | bloody anal sysadmins - how are we supposed to test our bloody stuff in a production environment, huh? |
| 11:03.56 | Leeds | I mean... what's the worst that could happen - you've got a backup of the database, right? |
| 11:05.20 | bilarh_ | exactly |
| 11:05.33 | bilarh_ | shame that an hours downtime here costs about 150k now |
| 11:05.59 | bilarh_ | and that restoring oracle will take at least 3-4 hours |
| 11:06.08 | bilarh_ | it's just ludicrous |
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| 12:03.04 | morsing | boudiccas! |
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| 12:06.43 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 12:06.58 | dick_turpin | Mo:-) |
| 12:09.38 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: 8-) |
| 12:09.59 | morsing | dick_turpin: It's his birthday today |
| 12:10.06 | bilarh_ | monmonsieur |
| 12:11.35 | bilarh_ | damnit |
| 12:11.35 | bilarh_ | laaag |
| 12:12.27 | dick_turpin | morsing: I know I'm off to his part later |
| 12:12.32 | dick_turpin | party |
| 12:12.44 | morsing | pulls bilarh_'s parts |
| 12:19.10 | bilarh_ | bloody rubbhish links |
| 12:20.00 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: What you playing at? |
| 12:34.52 | bilarh_ | well, i get the lag from hell |
| 12:34.54 | bilarh_ | or got just then |
| 12:35.09 | bilarh_ | echelon must be overloaded, i bet all my traffic gets stuck in some terrorist_analyse() function |
| 12:38.42 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Na you're network just hates you Birthday boy |
| 12:39.29 | bilarh_ | maybe that's why |
| 12:39.37 | bilarh_ | maybe it's jelaous because i get cake and it doesn't |
| 12:41.07 | morsing | Beer |
| 12:46.35 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Ooh I just love a bit of cake |
| 12:48.14 | cpufreak | http://www.joost.com - will now work onlinux |
| 12:52.31 | ChoHag | Can you have multiple directories listed in an Apache <Directory ...> section? |
| 12:54.01 | cpufreak | no. |
| 12:54.03 | ChoHag | Apparently not. Need to use a regex. |
| 12:54.13 | ChoHag | That's a bit lame. |
| 12:54.32 | cpufreak | I can kick our resident apache developers if you want once they awake |
| 12:58.03 | ChoHag | That must be a handy thing to be able to do. |
| 13:00.25 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Oi leave some of the icing for me you porker |
| 13:01.29 | antiphase | DirectoryMAtch or LocationMAtch |
| 13:02.13 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: *burp* |
| 13:04.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Them sausage rolls was nice and I was surprised you could get that many candles on a muffin |
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| 13:06.25 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 13:07.54 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: :-* |
| 13:08.13 | boudiccas | i've got a rotten stinking cold dick_turpin :(((( |
| 13:08.38 | bilarh_ | ooooh cry us a river |
| 13:08.44 | bilarh_ | doesn't play the sympathy card |
| 13:08.58 | bilarh_ | am i running dangerously close to being beaten? :P |
| 13:09.38 | bilarh_ | btw i heard on radio 1 this morning that womens brains are smaller and their heads are full of water and thats why they go crazy when it's full moon and the tidal pull is the strongest |
| 13:09.57 | dick_turpin | does, get in while the defences are down is my motto |
| 13:11.59 | boudiccas | slaps bilarh_ around a bit for just being silly |
| 13:12.10 | bilarh_ | no it was honestly on radio1 |
| 13:12.23 | bilarh_ | rachel was feeling a bit stingy today |
| 13:12.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: get a bowl, stick a lump of Vic in it, towel over head and breath in them vapours |
| 13:12.26 | boudiccas | and you believe everythign you hear on radio 1? |
| 13:12.38 | bilarh_ | it was on the chris moyles show, it must be tru |
| 13:12.39 | bilarh_ | e |
| 13:13.05 | bilarh_ | some new research from comedy dave, it was |
| 13:13.09 | bilarh_ | wasn't it |
| 13:13.34 | boudiccas | bilarh_; having seen a human brain in one operation i can assure you that women brain space is /not/ filled with water and that chris moyles is a plonker |
| 13:13.44 | bilarh_ | :( |
| 13:14.25 | bilarh_ | let's see, chris moyles, the saviour of radio 1, or a random weirdo on IRC.... hmmm |
| 13:14.41 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: you smell |
| 13:15.34 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Sorry about that cant afford soap these days my Camen Island account went tits up along with all my lollies in Iceland |
| 13:15.46 | bilarh_ | mmm tits |
| 13:16.35 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: that's ok. Gordon Brown has seized some terrorist cods and is holding them ransom from the terrorist regime in Iceland |
| 13:19.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I love the way they are gonna use *our* money to buy the banks so that they can lend us *our* money for us to pay interest on. Brilliant! Shades of Maggie Thatcher selling *our* British Gas to us |
| 13:20.34 | antiphase | Is Camen like Ramen? |
| 13:21.06 | boudiccas | no, camen is an opera whereas ramen is just noodles |
| 13:21.43 | antiphase | That's Carmen, and Cayman ;) |
| 13:22.07 | antiphase | Didn't you people pass your immigration tests? |
| 13:22.28 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Did I spell it wrong? Oh dear |
| 13:22.40 | antiphase | Lollercaust |
| 13:23.17 | boudiccas | immigration tests? whats that? |
| 13:24.23 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: it's a complete joke |
| 13:24.54 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: i especially applaud gordon brown for taking my tax money and propping up house prices (due to increased lending by the state owned banks), so that I will never afford a house. Thanks a log, G |
| 13:24.58 | bilarh_ | s/log/lot/ |
| 13:25.54 | antiphase | You need to stop being a bin man and earn some proper money |
| 13:27.01 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Why? are binmen paid in rupees or soemthing? |
| 13:27.14 | dick_turpin | something |
| 13:28.19 | kraptv | Any of you chaps have a Thomson SpeedTouch DSL modem? |
| 13:28.43 | kraptv | or should I say, a fair amount of experience with em? |
| 13:29.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: We've stopped watching the news in our house, the thing is whatever hapens the yellow back UK population will just moan about it every day yet still stump up the cash |
| 13:29.53 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: If this was some Latin country there'd be out there burning down the Reich Stag |
| 13:30.17 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Or No10 |
| 13:30.27 | kraptv | dick_ I dunno about that. |
| 13:30.53 | kraptv | Latin countries are so used to ups and downs of their economies, that they may try and protest, but the rich just keep them safely away of anything legitimately threatening. |
| 13:31.07 | kraptv | So, for us comfortable first worlders, it's a bit upsetting for us. |
| 13:31.45 | kraptv | The phrase "privatise the gains, socialise the losses" should be said and reflected upon over and over again. |
| 13:32.25 | dick_turpin | Well it would appear some of us are no longer comfortable |
| 13:32.25 | kraptv | oh, your comfort shall be gauged by how fat you remain once your benefits run out! ;-) |
| 13:32.31 | bilarh_ | antiphase: well, for 3.5 times my salary i could buy something, but it would be a 2 bed flat... why the hell should i do that when i earn loads more than the average worker? |
| 13:32.51 | bilarh_ | antiphase: the housing market is out of kilter, there's no way i'm buying into it |
| 13:33.15 | wethrin | bilarh_: Give it 6 months or so.. |
| 13:33.29 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: that's true as well, but then our media doesn't even give proper coverage anyway, it's all "managed" |
| 13:34.36 | bilarh_ | wethrin: well, unless the govt make the state owned banks give a load of money to anyone who can fog a mirror again |
| 13:34.57 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Oh god yeah, my Grandfather had a very true saying; Take half you see on the news, half you read in the paper, halve that and you might have a smidgen of trueth |
| 13:35.16 | bilarh_ | wethrin: in which case anyone who's been responsible and actually saved up a deposit will be, again, fucked over by inflation |
| 13:35.33 | bilarh_ | and they'll have to bail out the irresponsible fuckers again |
| 13:35.51 | bilarh_ | bring back guy fawkes |
| 13:35.51 | wethrin | So be irresponsible. Buy a round for everyone at the pub! |
| 13:36.48 | bilarh_ | nah, they're just a bunch of freeloaders ;-) |
| 13:38.02 | dick_turpin | I love the way the Gov't and the news is taking peoples minds of the real issue by harping on about 'Fat Cats' and Bonuses. While its a pisser that a few had big payouts thats not why the markets are crashing left right and centre |
| 13:39.07 | bilarh_ | exactly |
| 13:40.02 | bilarh_ | and then you get some idiot on tv yesterday saying "i don't think the payouts are ever justified"... jelaous idiots |
| 13:40.31 | bilarh_ | if the company made a huge profit under someone's leadership, then of course a bonus is justified |
| 13:40.51 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I heard this bloke on Radio 4 at the weekend crying that he had advised his girlfriend to stick £250,000 in Iceland and it looked like she might loose the lot, I thought stupid rich cow you only stuck it there cos you thought you'd make a killing |
| 13:41.24 | bilarh_ | no doubt he was crying for the uk taxpayer to bail him out |
| 13:41.56 | bilarh_ | i mean, i can understand bailing everyone out to the (now) 50k limit, but ffs, if you had money in savings and you were above the limit, it's your own damn fault |
| 13:41.59 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Course |
| 13:42.08 | bilarh_ | it's not like the limits aren't well published for crying out loud |
| 13:43.21 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: I disagree, if the money is in a UK bank then it should be 100% if its abroad you was trying to better a clever git so in my book you get nothing |
| 13:45.02 | bilarh_ | hrm, i don't :) |
| 13:45.10 | bilarh_ | but i can kind of see where you're coming from |
| 13:45.39 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Course you know who is really to blame for all this don't you? |
| 13:47.02 | boudiccas | maggie thatcher |
| 13:47.45 | dick_turpin | Nope, too many old people and not enough young people |
| 13:47.45 | boudiccas | come on dick_turpin tell me i'm right |
| 13:47.59 | boudiccas | but we import most of our young people |
| 13:48.29 | morsing | Like young girls? |
| 13:48.48 | boudiccas | how young morsing ? |
| 13:49.01 | bilarh_ | boudiccas: ah, of course, how could we miss how mrs thatcher was scheming against the UK's finances for teh past 11 years |
| 13:49.05 | boudiccas | i was thinking of the early twenties doing labouring jobs |
| 13:49.16 | dick_turpin | Older people dont want loans etc so banks did crazy stuff loaning to younger people knowing full well they could'nt afford it. It was a huge gamble that bachfired |
| 13:49.36 | dick_turpin | backfired |
| 13:49.54 | boudiccas | i preferred 'bachfired', its more evocative :) |
| 13:50.10 | morsing | boudiccas: Like 16-17? Doing... job in the... home? |
| 13:50.37 | boudiccas | morsing; early 20's doing labouring jobs on building sites |
| 13:51.39 | dick_turpin | Hey anyone that does any job is OK in my book at least they got offr there arse and got something (No finger pointing intended) |
| 13:52.56 | morsing | boudiccas: I wouldn't use them for that... |
| 13:57.04 | boudiccas | morsing; what would you use them for then? on second thoughts, dont answer that |
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| 13:57.14 | morsing | I better not |
| 13:57.17 | morsing | Blapto! |
| 13:57.20 | Blapto | morsing! |
| 13:57.29 | morsing | Blapto: What would you use a 16 year old girl for? |
| 13:57.36 | Blapto | storage. |
| 13:57.39 | morsing | Nice |
| 13:57.43 | bilarh_ | blapto: lol |
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| 14:29.32 | hali | hm, $recruiter emails me "fortran would be good but not essential" |
| 14:32.22 | kraptv | fortran! fuck that, learn to play with citrix xen and vmware and you got a magic job in trendycomputing! |
| 14:32.42 | kraptv | hates programming despite having a degree in compsci. |
| 14:33.58 | antiphase | Programming is full of win |
| 14:34.13 | antiphase | That's obviously why I'm a sysadmin, so I get to do it in Perl |
| 14:35.12 | bilarh_ | we use fortran still |
| 14:35.23 | bilarh_ | all our data processing modules are written in it |
| 14:35.51 | bilarh_ | including all the new stuff |
| 14:38.07 | hali | this is actually trendycomputing, most of it is hpc stuff... modelling of financial scenarios |
| 14:38.24 | hali | and hm, citrix xen is faaaar from trendy ;) |
| 14:38.43 | bilarh_ | there you go |
| 14:38.46 | bilarh_ | hpc == fortran |
| 14:38.52 | hali | yes |
| 14:39.04 | kraptv | yeah, hpc == fortran. |
| 14:39.14 | hali | this says bla bla, mpi, scheduling, infiniband, pnfs, bla bla |
| 14:39.20 | hali | so sounds quite exciting |
| 14:39.24 | kraptv | and fluid simulations in manufacturing. |
| 14:39.52 | kraptv | pnfs, infiniband, scheduling, mpi, sounds like a company that uses panasas too. |
| 14:56.33 | cpufreak | sounds bollox. |
| 14:57.55 | ChoHag | Turns out our network admins a) don't know how DNS works ("It's the host file on the proxy server!") and b) don't know that their firewall is mangling it. |
| 14:58.31 | cpufreak | they sound like fuckwits |
| 14:58.32 | cpufreak | fire them |
| 14:58.49 | cpufreak | network admins makes them sound like windows plebs though |
| 14:58.57 | cpufreak | if they're really network people surely they'd be "engineers" |
| 14:58.57 | cpufreak | :) |
| 14:59.16 | ChoHag | They are windows plebs. |
| 15:00.41 | cpufreak | so adjust their job descrption |
| 15:00.44 | cpufreak | so next time you can say |
| 15:00.58 | cpufreak | < ChoHag> Turns out our windows plebs a) don't know how DNS works ("It's the host file on the proxy server!") and b) don't know that their firewall is mangling it. |
| 15:01.20 | ChoHag | heh |
| 15:01.25 | ChoHag | I think I'll do that. |
| 15:01.49 | ChoHag | Seperates them from the helpdesk guys, who are also windows plebs but not so plebby. |
| 15:01.52 | ChoHag | plebian? |
| 15:02.44 | antiphase | plebeian |
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| 15:21.06 | ChoHag | Thankyou. |
| 16:04.38 | morsing | blight! |
| 16:09.14 | Blapto | http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/a-time-machine-would-have-been-cheaper%2c-say-experts-200810141321/ |
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| 20:45.50 | morsing | ! |
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| 20:46.11 | nixofortune | morsing |
| 21:17.53 | ChoHag | ... accusing the The Economist of a typo in referring to Cornish pasties being on sale in Mexico, assuming that "pastries" had been intended. The Economist responded by sending him a Cornish pasty. |
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