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06:15.07 | morsing | Leeds! |
08:13.34 | hali | morning |
08:52.10 | morsing | Beer |
09:28.05 | bilarh | morning |
09:51.06 | morsing | Cawfy |
09:52.01 | Leeds | good idea |
09:55.29 | z00dax | woo! |
09:58.34 | Leeds | goes to get coffee |
10:16.07 | z00dax | any tipcs on property hunting in the city / |
10:16.23 | wethrin | Avoid Foxtons |
10:16.51 | z00dax | absolutely |
10:17.06 | wethrin | heads off |
10:19.54 | morsing | z00dax: Don't do it |
10:20.04 | morsing | z00dax: Avoid London for sure |
10:20.24 | morsing | z00dax: Move to Durham, lovely place! |
10:21.23 | z00dax | morsing: but my work is in London |
10:21.28 | z00dax | and my fiance's too |
10:24.20 | morsing | Get a job somewhere else |
10:24.30 | morsing | It only makes sense |
10:24.43 | z00dax | perhaps... |
10:24.45 | z00dax | but i am happy here |
10:25.23 | morsing | OMG - how can you be happy there?!?!? Can only be because you don't kow better |
10:26.40 | Stephmw | avoid Atkinson McLeod too |
10:26.57 | Stephmw | and Barnard Marcus... in fact, avoid agents |
10:27.30 | Stephmw | <3 London |
10:27.51 | morsing | London is hell on earth |
10:28.06 | Stephmw | only in _your_ cardboard box... |
10:28.33 | z00dax | morsing: our offices are in the 2nd floor of an old piano factory, in a residential area, the people I work with are some of the best in the buisness ( atleast in London area ). its not a half bad place to work |
10:29.53 | z00dax | although, to be fair, this place isnt 'the city', most people consider Kentish Town to be north of london |
10:30.07 | Stephmw | nods |
10:30.18 | Stephmw | do you still need a visa to come into zone 1? |
10:30.18 | z00dax | the big issues however, is that i live ( as hali puts it ) - out in the sticks further out east than the end of east |
10:30.48 | z00dax | yea! |
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10:31.53 | z00dax | I used to live at londonbridge, about 50yrds from the station, for 6 months in 2003. Wasent half bad. ofcourse, no question of a car or driving anywhere. and i am not a very public transport friendly person |
10:32.05 | morsing | ChoHag! |
10:32.27 | z00dax | Stephmw: avoiding all agents is kinda hard. unless you know some special place to look ? |
10:33.52 | Stephmw | z00dax: alas not, I just know that agents just go from place to place, so they'll all be bad at some point |
10:37.25 | z00dax | true |
10:39.25 | morsing | z00dax: Berkhamsted is very nice |
10:39.58 | z00dax | does look nice indeed |
10:40.05 | z00dax | whats the connections like into kings cross ? |
10:41.09 | morsing | Well, train to ermm... The one after Marylebone, is about 24 minutes |
10:41.24 | wethrin | Euston? |
10:41.27 | morsing | Yeah |
10:41.39 | morsing | so 30-32 mins to KX |
10:42.09 | morsing | Hang on - the fast trains might not stop at Berkhamsted |
10:42.11 | morsing | Not sure |
10:42.27 | morsing | But why would you want to go to London anyway? |
10:42.39 | wethrin | It has a vibrant social life scene |
10:42.49 | morsing | LOL :D :D :D Very funny |
10:42.52 | wethrin | I, for one, very much enjoyed going to concerts and theatres when I was in London |
10:43.08 | wethrin | And radio/TV recordings |
10:43.10 | morsing | But you never lived in London |
10:43.32 | wethrin | That's true. But I only lived half an hour away |
10:44.20 | wethrin | Parsons Green always felt really nice to me, the times I've been there |
10:44.34 | morsing | Tottenham |
10:44.41 | morsing | used to live there |
10:44.49 | morsing | was a token white person |
10:45.24 | hali | is after a simple web file upload utility.. any suggestions? |
10:46.03 | antiphase | Write a CGI script in $language_du_jour |
10:46.49 | wethrin | antiphase is correct |
10:47.02 | antiphase | \o/ |
10:47.02 | wethrin | It'd take about 10 minutes of PHP hackery |
10:47.19 | wethrin | offers a cookie |
11:36.57 | hali | i don't have cookie support |
11:38.54 | morsing | Beer |
11:43.42 | bilarh | make it stop :'( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/holset-turbo-charger_W0QQitemZ190263115953QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190263115953&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A13%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 |
11:44.03 | bilarh | maybe i should ask for a new turbo for the saab for my birthday |
11:44.29 | bilarh | i'm sure my other half will be thrilled at the prospect of me spending my weekends outside in the rain welding an exhaust manifold rather than doing house work |
11:44.40 | morsing | Irn-Bru |
11:44.47 | bilarh | i don't think that would work as well |
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12:42.35 | morsing | rhowe_! |
13:14.29 | morsing | http://www.wdbm.dk/shared/2/2bfb59ce2c44f7163652a724a9b0a383_hw145_width.jpeg |
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14:11.16 | morsing | Carlisle! |
14:11.20 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
14:11.52 | bilarh | dick_turpin! |
14:12.21 | dick_turpin | Lads |
14:12.53 | boudiccas | and lasses |
14:13.02 | Stephmw | Photography retrospective, funny Bush moments... http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-36649.html |
14:13.03 | morsing | *sigh* |
14:13.22 | morsing | boudiccas: I'm certainly not a lass but I agree I've never met bilarh so... |
14:13.39 | boudiccas | you never know :) |
14:13.46 | bilarh | i do have big boobs |
14:13.59 | boudiccas | man-boobs probably :) |
14:14.08 | bilarh | yeah :) |
14:14.15 | morsing | sucks on bilarh |
14:14.22 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Rat bags, you're normally asleep at this time |
14:14.38 | boudiccas | i've been up five hours plus |
14:14.43 | dick_turpin | bilarh: And a fat arse |
14:15.51 | bilarh | dick_turpin: that is no way to speak of boudiccas |
14:17.01 | boudiccas | lol |
14:17.04 | morsing | Beer |
14:17.12 | boudiccas | fish and chips |
14:17.20 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Next we'll be haveing to say lads, lasses, shemales, gendar reassigned and any other PC term you can think of |
14:17.56 | bilarh | i like peopleperson, me |
14:17.58 | boudiccas | dick_turpin; nobbut wrong with that, you need to give people that warm comfy feeling of being included |
14:18.11 | dick_turpin | bilarh: My god its taken, what? A year? and you finally managed to hit a six |
14:18.24 | bilarh | a six? |
14:18.26 | boudiccas | anyways its tiem to go out again |
14:18.30 | boudiccas | *time |
14:18.38 | bilarh | get that tap fixed as well, will you |
14:19.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Not a cricket fan I take it? |
14:19.25 | bilarh | is that the game where grown men stand around on a field a week at a time |
14:19.27 | bilarh | ? |
14:21.13 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Yeah I would have thought it was right up your street, standing around holding your ball in your hand :-P |
14:22.51 | bilarh | i wouldn't even need to buy any equipment to play... |
14:22.59 | bilarh | i could use my appendage as a bat :D |
14:25.03 | dick_turpin | whacks bilarh on his appendage with a meat tenderisor |
14:25.31 | bilarh | a watchmakers hammer might be more appropriately sized :D |
14:25.40 | bilarh | i mean :'(, of course |
14:38.36 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Doing anything interesting? I'm doing pictures in Paint Shop Pro. Been instructed to do 'Christmas' emails, groan |
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14:39.08 | mindbendr | hi |
14:39.12 | morsing | mindbendr! |
14:39.23 | bilarh | dick_turpin: why don't you do a "frank bow tie east enders" picture? |
14:39.30 | morsing | Turnip |
14:41.18 | dick_turpin | bilarh: God I hate the cheesey Christmas emails, I mean as if your gaffer is gonna get all festive and say "Go on then seeing as its xmas" |
14:41.34 | dick_turpin | Bah humbug |
14:42.24 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Bet you cant guess who's instruceted me to do them? |
14:42.53 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i hate christmas too |
14:43.15 | bilarh | dick_turpin: it seems it's a pointless exercise of spending tons of money on stupid presents and receiving presents in return that you didn't want anyway |
14:43.24 | bilarh | good for retailers, i suppose |
14:45.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Its worse for me, I get mums & dads wanting refurb laptops for the kids at the cheapest price possible. You just know there's gonna be trouble in the new year :-( |
14:45.35 | bilarh | you work for some high class retailer, eh? :D |
14:45.44 | bilarh | can they pay it off a pound a week? :D |
14:46.02 | bilarh | actually what's wrong with refurb laptops, though? |
14:46.07 | bilarh | i'd be happy to buy one to be honest |
14:46.46 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Genarally nothing in fact most are in mint condition its just a case of "Sods law" |
14:47.40 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I sold 3 brand new PC's one year guess what happened Christmas day! And what happened boxing day? |
14:47.54 | bilarh | xmas day they broke |
14:47.59 | bilarh | boxing day you had three angry customers :D |
14:48.00 | mindbendr | any recommendations for hardware firewalls? Cisco or Juniper? |
14:48.15 | mindbendr | or Watchguard |
14:48.23 | dick_turpin | Oh yeah. |
14:49.10 | bilarh | ok, here's the thing... |
14:49.24 | bilarh | i know i say "jesus christ" a lot about the economy and companies etc etc at the moment |
14:49.27 | bilarh | but |
14:49.34 | bilarh | jesus christ, check this out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7733575.stm |
14:49.44 | bilarh | citi to cut 75k jobs :S :S :S |
14:51.03 | dick_turpin | bilarh: They have been on the way out for about 7 months now, I did have a card with them but paid it off when I had a letter saying they was closing branches |
14:51.32 | bilarh | yaeh but 75k jobs |
14:51.35 | bilarh | mainly in london and NY |
14:52.13 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I did consider running the limit up but even if they went bump I bet someone somewhere would hunt you down for the money |
14:52.23 | bilarh | oh definitely |
14:52.40 | bilarh | the debt would be sold off to someone else by the receiver |
14:58.58 | dick_turpin | Mind you Bank of Scotland wrote a debt off I had many many years ago, perhaps its taken all these years for it to have an effect? :-) |
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15:45.44 | morsing | How is it you set a variable at the beginning of a command line? |
15:46.26 | antiphase | morsing="gay" ./foo |
15:46.36 | antiphase | or just export it into your environment |
15:46.57 | morsing | Oh! Forgot the ; |
15:47.21 | morsing | This works: |
15:47.23 | morsing | value=beer; echo $value |
15:47.40 | morsing | But does nothing if you leave out the ; |
15:48.59 | antiphase | It works if you use upper-case variable names |
15:49.05 | antiphase | Parser fail |
15:50.40 | morsing | antiphase: No, uppercase didn't do it either. |
15:50.57 | morsing | And I can do multiple assignments before the ; |
15:52.31 | bilarh | morsing: you're not using the superior bash shell, are you? |
15:52.34 | antiphase | Your shell smells of poo and wee |
15:55.53 | bilarh | soo.. perhaps i shouldn't get those injectors |
15:56.05 | bilarh | it's possible to run dual injectors if you modify the inlet |
15:56.16 | bilarh | that would be the dogs danglies, i reckon |
15:56.29 | bilarh | and about 35 quid plus a couple of bolts and a bit of welding |
16:00.57 | antiphase | A bit of aluminium welding presumably |
16:01.20 | bilarh | yeah |
16:01.27 | bilarh | i've got my argon gas at the ready :P |
16:40.32 | ChoHag | "VAR=1 command" runs command with 'VAR=1' in the environment. |
16:40.42 | ChoHag | s/the/its/ |
16:41.08 | ChoHag | "VAR=1; command" puts 'VAR=1' in the shell's environment and then parses/runs command. |
16:41.48 | ChoHag | antiphase: What shell are you using? |
16:43.55 | antiphase | dash probably |
16:44.38 | ChoHag | [bash]kingm@far-102003:~$ dash |
16:44.41 | ChoHag | [sh]kingm@far-102003:/home/kingm$ X=1 echo $X |
16:44.49 | ChoHag | [sh]kingm@far-102003:/home/kingm$ |
16:45.08 | ChoHag | With a blank line... |
16:46.42 | antiphase | GNU bash 3.2.39 I'm using, a la Ubuntu Hardy zmd64 |
16:48.33 | ChoHag | Not there either. |
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18:33.32 | morsing | sabinef72! |
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19:10.24 | morsing | konadr! |
19:10.54 | konadr | morsing! what up old chap |
19:10.59 | morsing | Beer |
19:11.11 | konadr | horray! delicious beer? |
19:11.44 | morsing | No |
19:11.47 | morsing | Imaginary |
19:11.49 | konadr | ;( |
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20:51.28 | _doug | hi there #gllug .. long time since I was at a meet .. |
20:52.23 | _doug | later .. |
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21:05.19 | wethrin | Well.....that was useful.... |
21:17.44 | ChoHag | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349 |
21:56.33 | ChoHag | AAAA! How do you explain 'click and drag' to somebody? |
21:56.49 | wethrin | Give up |
21:56.53 | wethrin | Go grab a beer |
22:05.24 | kjs | ChoHag: id say it's clicking and dragging |
22:05.55 | kjs | if that didnt work id experiance packet loss on my voip call. |
22:11.52 | ChoHag | How can they be so incompetent and yet manage to uninstall their network drivers? |
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23:20.39 | morsing | nixofortune! |
23:20.40 | morsing | catalyst! |
23:20.50 | nixofortune | hi |
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23:36.47 | morsing | Leeds! |