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| 01:27.37 | delugex | does anyone here use deluge? how can i set my download speed to be at least 3 times faster than my upload one? at present and for reasons that are beyond me my upload speed is 4 times faster than my download one!!! |
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| 05:53.19 | morsing | rhowe: Saw it? Or want to see it? It's modern art, not for me... |
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| 07:49.42 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 08:26.32 | ChoHag | Bah. |
| 08:26.42 | ChoHag | Cutting your nails at the computer is not a good idea. |
| 08:29.19 | morsing | Beer |
| 09:03.25 | kjs | morning |
| 09:13.30 | morsing | Irn-Bru |
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| 09:40.09 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:40.10 | morsing | wethrin! |
| 09:51.38 | rhowe | morsing: Saw that it is there - I think we'll probably go to see it |
| 09:53.59 | morsing | Ok, one of my family members has quite a high up position there. |
| 09:54.10 | morsing | My mum's cousin or something |
| 09:54.16 | morsing | Go say hello |
| 09:54.20 | rhowe | heh cool |
| 10:00.21 | bilarh | puts another used replacement drive purchased in august 2004 into his critical computing node *sigh* |
| 10:08.52 | ChoHag | Hooray! Against my suggestion the other Linux guy has used the load balancer to direct requests to a live server to serve a page saying "Sorry. We bought this company out." |
| 10:09.47 | ChoHag | So now rather than risking bugs in the load balancers, the purported reason for not just hosting it there, we are risking bugs on the load balancers, the live server (singular...) being used and those bugs could affect one of our live services. |
| 10:12.30 | bilarh | great design |
| 10:12.36 | bilarh | do we work for the same company? :D |
| 10:12.52 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:12.59 | morsing | Dividends!!! |
| 10:13.01 | morsing | yay :D |
| 10:49.35 | morsing | Beer |
| 11:31.08 | morsing | HELLO??> |
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| 11:54.38 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 11:54.52 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
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| 12:45.55 | mindbendr | hi |
| 12:46.09 | mindbendr | morsing! |
| 12:46.47 | mindbendr | when I restart iptables on a remote server, is it normal to lose ssh connection? |
| 12:47.03 | mindbendr | I mean that ssh session |
| 12:47.41 | mindbendr | because of the --state NEW rule |
| 12:48.26 | antiphase | I'm not sure how you "restart" it |
| 12:48.26 | Discordian | Restarting involves stopping iptables and then starting them again |
| 12:49.01 | Discordian | On RHEL etc it removes all the iptables rules |
| 12:49.09 | mindbendr | service iptables restart |
| 12:49.17 | antiphase | It's conceivable that flushing the rules would cause all connections considered established to be no longer considered the same way |
| 12:49.19 | Discordian | and then adds whatever is in /etc/syscoinfig/iptables |
| 12:49.19 | mindbendr | but it has got ssh allowed rules |
| 12:49.36 | mindbendr | so for the `state` |
| 12:49.53 | mindbendr | it's not a new connection and that drops it |
| 12:50.05 | Discordian | Yes but those rules don't exist momentarily |
| 12:50.08 | mindbendr | if i don't use `state new` rule, it wouldn't be interrupted? |
| 12:50.12 | mindbendr | hmm |
| 12:50.17 | antiphase | I'm not sure you'd ever want to do anything with new connections apart from drop them |
| 12:50.18 | mindbendr | but it would resume |
| 12:50.34 | mindbendr | I get a TCP ICMP reply code 13 |
| 12:50.45 | mindbendr | destination unreachable (host administartively prohibited) |
| 12:50.47 | Discordian | Try it and you'll find out, n'est pas? |
| 12:50.50 | mindbendr | on the sniffer for that ssh connection |
| 12:51.08 | antiphase | Do you mean "I restart iptables and now I can't SSh to the remote server"? |
| 12:51.14 | mindbendr | antiphase: no |
| 12:51.20 | antiphase | Don't worry then :P |
| 12:51.22 | mindbendr | antiphase: i lose my ssh connection even it's allowed on iptables |
| 12:51.37 | mindbendr | antiphase: and it doesn't come back so i have to reconnect |
| 12:51.46 | Discordian | awww |
| 12:51.48 | antiphase | I can't say I'd do such seat-of-the-pants stuff with a remote server |
| 12:51.49 | mindbendr | antiphase: normally i thought it wouldn't affect the ssh connection and it would resume |
| 12:52.01 | mindbendr | antiphase: it's not that remote it's in the building. |
| 12:52.40 | antiphase | Do some proper sysadmin instead, like reading Usenet or deleting some users' files |
| 12:52.52 | mindbendr | antiphase: do you? |
| 12:53.07 | antiphase | I'm IRCing at the moment, adn listening to music |
| 12:53.22 | antiphase | I might do some work later, but I've only been in the office for an hour |
| 12:53.38 | Discordian | It doesn't happen on this box |
| 12:53.56 | mindbendr | Discordian: have you got -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
| 12:54.08 | mindbendr | state module for that port |
| 12:54.30 | Discordian | No I don't |
| 12:54.39 | antiphase | That's a stupid rule |
| 12:54.59 | Discordian | It is however my desktop box and is usually off |
| 12:55.29 | mindbendr | ok that was the module then, i've tried it. |
| 12:55.45 | antiphase | If you're allowing SYN packets, it implies that you want to allow subsequent ones, so an ACCEPT rule is nonsense |
| 12:55.50 | mindbendr | i don't understand why did they put it for ssh though. |
| 12:55.58 | Discordian | module ? |
| 12:56.09 | Discordian | It's a rule not a module |
| 12:56.10 | mindbendr | Discordian: state `new` rule for ssh |
| 12:56.25 | Discordian | Pardon? |
| 12:57.04 | Discordian | where you asking me for a new rule? |
| 12:57.07 | Discordian | were |
| 12:59.34 | mindbendr | Discordian: no |
| 12:59.39 | mindbendr | Discordian: sorry about that |
| 12:59.56 | mindbendr | Discordian: I have removed that state rule and found that it was the reason |
| 13:01.20 | Discordian | ah ok cool |
| 13:22.53 | dick_turpin | ibot: shoot bilarh |
| 13:22.54 | ibot | ACTION shoots bilarh in the ear with a glue gun! |
| 13:32.46 | morsing | mindbendr! |
| 13:35.35 | morsing | 1 |
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| 14:02.02 | morsing | Colchester! |
| 14:13.41 | bilarh | i can't believe how expensive hoses are :S |
| 14:13.49 | bilarh | i just priced up a two 50cm long hoses (steel braided) and one 80cm hose and it comes up to 148 quid |
| 14:13.53 | morsing | You into hoprse trading now? |
| 14:13.56 | morsing | horse |
| 14:14.40 | antiphase | Hand-made stuff is always expensive, and steel-braided hoses are always expensive. Ergo expensive^2 |
| 14:14.59 | bilarh | this is me assembling it all as well |
| 14:15.12 | bilarh | mind, it would be proper JIC fittings with it |
| 14:15.27 | bilarh | and no pissing abuot with banjo's either |
| 14:15.54 | bilarh | and, they would be re-usable for almost any turbo I'd buy |
| 14:16.12 | bilarh | well, apart from the fact that they might need a different JIC->metric adaptor on one end |
| 14:16.49 | antiphase | You could buy a pipe bender and a load of pipe for that much dough |
| 14:17.04 | bilarh | that's true as well |
| 14:17.31 | bilarh | i was contemplating normal copper pipe and soldering the banjo's to the ends |
| 14:18.23 | antiphase | You want flared ends for hot stuff I'd have thought |
| 14:18.35 | bilarh | JIC stuff should be OK apparently |
| 14:18.46 | bilarh | as long as it's not hot *and* hydrualic |
| 14:18.48 | antiphase | Copper is bad if it's not bolted down because it will work harden and fracture |
| 14:18.50 | bilarh | or however it's spelt |
| 14:18.59 | bilarh | aluminium? |
| 14:19.03 | antiphase | Even worse |
| 14:19.07 | antiphase | Stainless is what you want |
| 14:19.30 | antiphase | Or just fuck it and buy the flexi ones |
| 14:19.50 | bilarh | flexi does look the dogs |
| 14:19.57 | bilarh | but jeez, 148 quid :S |
| 14:20.05 | bilarh | that's like a third of the car |
| 14:20.06 | bilarh | for three hoses |
| 14:20.09 | bilarh | nuts |
| 14:20.43 | antiphase | Hint: Don't do expensive work to cheap shit cars |
| 14:20.59 | bilarh | sticks his fingers in his ears |
| 14:27.09 | dick_turpin | creeps up behind bilarh while he has his fingers in his ears and stabs him in the back |
| 14:39.11 | bilarh | bastard :) |
| 14:40.48 | hali | mustard |
| 14:47.00 | flips_and_rails | custard |
| 15:19.34 | Discordian | Is there an equivalent of chrpath for shared object libraries? |
| 15:38.26 | bilarh | wtf i hate when people steal my fucking video conferencing slot |
| 15:38.37 | bilarh | one meeting a week I care about, and it's stolen about 50% of the time |
| 15:38.38 | bilarh | fuckers |
| 15:38.41 | z00dax | who's have thunk it |
| 15:38.47 | z00dax | gllug has a bunch of ubuntu hatters |
| 15:39.34 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:39.55 | z00dax | is good |
| 15:40.41 | Discordian | hatters? |
| 15:40.42 | Leeds | z00dax: mad ones? |
| 15:42.07 | z00dax | mostly |
| 15:42.23 | z00dax | Discordian: they wear the hat, but thats about it. |
| 15:42.28 | z00dax | que: list traffic |
| 15:42.46 | wethrin | Yeah. It mostly the old Unix hats going "Don't like it,doesn't work for me" |
| 15:45.58 | antiphase | dpkg -P SystemV |
| 15:46.26 | Discordian | has no idea what that does |
| 15:49.14 | z00dax | randomly looks for people on twitter |
| 15:49.40 | Leeds | there are people on twitter? |
| 15:49.54 | z00dax | I've heard rumours |
| 15:49.56 | morsing | Twitter? |
| 15:49.59 | ChoHag | Twitter? |
| 15:50.15 | wethrin | Twitter's all very trendy |
| 15:50.20 | wethrin | But it's not real web two point oh |
| 15:50.24 | wethrin | Otherwise it'd be called twittr |
| 15:50.28 | morsing | ibot twitter |
| 15:50.39 | hali | micro blogging site |
| 15:50.42 | hali | with a failwhale |
| 15:50.50 | morsing | ibot twitter |
| 15:55.56 | Discordian | Hmm "Knowledge of Visualisation Technology such as VMware and Xen Hypervisor" impressive new use of Vmware |
| 16:04.22 | ChoHag | Running windows in a window is very visual. |
| 16:05.06 | Discordian | heh |
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| 17:43.57 | rhowe | pub? |
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| 17:49.14 | rhowe | pub? |
| 17:49.30 | mindbendr | bye |
| 17:55.58 | Discordian | wonders what the Ubuntu people have been smoking today |
| 17:56.15 | Discordian | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Muslim-Edition-8-10-Released-98247.shtml |
| 18:30.52 | morsing | pub |
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| 18:51.18 | morsing | konadr! |
| 18:51.31 | konadr | morsing!! you old devil |
| 18:51.39 | konadr | cold old weekend this one i suspect |
| 18:51.43 | konadr | best stock up on the beer |
| 18:55.17 | konadr | carl rhowe? |
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| 20:35.37 | andy__ | anyone using event mpm in apache? |
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| 22:30.04 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 22:34.48 | rhowe | hey Henrik |
| 22:36.26 | morsing | Why are you ignoring me? |
| 22:37.00 | wethrin | hi rhowe |
| 22:37.07 | wethrin | How did you half fall off a bike? |
| 22:38.46 | morsing | Beer |
| 23:12.20 | rhowe | wethrin: Chain slipped off |
| 23:15.22 | wethrin | ouch |
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