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| 07:36.47 | ChoHag | Can you get Linux to stop randomly killing things when it runs out of memory? |
| 07:36.56 | ChoHag | Other than by simply giving it more memory. |
| 07:38.18 | Leeds | what do you want it to do instead? |
| 07:39.16 | ChoHag | The process that requested it can fail. |
| 07:39.25 | ChoHag | Not some other. |
| 07:39.47 | ChoHag | Which is what seems to be happening. |
| 07:40.03 | ChoHag | Unless everything is running out memory, which I doubt. |
| 07:41.10 | Discordian | err how much ram do you have? |
| 07:43.19 | ChoHag | 150MB |
| 07:43.38 | Discordian | errk |
| 07:43.49 | Leeds | really? |
| 07:43.55 | ChoHag | It's virtual. |
| 07:44.03 | Discordian | running what distro? |
| 07:44.09 | ChoHag | Debian. |
| 07:44.24 | Leeds | I assume there's nothing graphical running... what is eating the RAM? |
| 07:45.50 | ChoHag | The first process killed was Apache, apparently. |
| 07:46.02 | ChoHag | I don't know if it was sucking up the RAM though. |
| 07:46.04 | Discordian | maybe you need to tune apache then |
| 07:46.22 | ChoHag | I need to get some stats gathering going. |
| 07:46.39 | Discordian | the default is to spawn lots of processes |
| 07:47.54 | ChoHag | Could be. Only postfix has been actually configured properly. |
| 07:48.08 | Leeds | how much swap do you have configured? |
| 07:48.41 | ChoHag | 256 |
| 07:49.02 | Leeds | so you have a total RAM of 406MB? |
| 07:49.43 | ChoHag | So it would seem. |
| 07:50.40 | Leeds | it's almost 2009... start by doubling it, double it again, then come and complain if you're still having trouble |
| 07:51.03 | Discordian | laughs |
| 07:51.04 | ChoHag | Were it my physical hardware, I would. |
| 07:51.16 | ChoHag | But that costs money which this box does not warrant. |
| 07:51.42 | Leeds | if you have root, you can add more swap |
| 07:51.50 | Discordian | i manage to run X,xchat, firefox etc in 256mb ok on this box |
| 07:52.12 | Leeds | Discordian: plus more than 150MB of swap |
| 07:52.29 | Discordian | aye 512mb |
| 07:52.30 | Leeds | ChoHag: is it a bytemark box? |
| 07:52.40 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 07:52.55 | Discordian | since i'm of the swap=2*ram school |
| 07:54.37 | ChoHag | I'll put some stats on it first and see what's flipping out. |
| 07:58.13 | morsing | Beer |
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| 09:33.14 | elshaa | hi |
| 09:33.21 | Discordian | ullo |
| 09:33.25 | morsing | elshaa! |
| 09:42.06 | elshaa | I have a small question. |
| 09:42.42 | Discordian | go on? |
| 09:42.46 | elshaa | I'm totally not from london :) , but I'll have to install servers there, in the Redbus Interhouse (harbour exchange square). |
| 09:43.05 | elshaa | Does anyone know this datacenter, or how easy it is accessible from the airport ? |
| 09:43.11 | Discordian | oh right hex |
| 09:43.28 | elshaa | hex = harbour exchange ? |
| 09:43.40 | Discordian | it's very close to south quay dlr station |
| 09:43.44 | Discordian | yes |
| 09:43.58 | bilarh | people |
| 09:44.05 | Discordian | which airport? |
| 09:44.44 | elshaa | Heathrow |
| 09:45.23 | elshaa | I'm not sure their is a train that can take me downtown, and their take a metro... |
| 09:45.30 | Discordian | piccadilly line from heathrow to leics square |
| 09:45.31 | elshaa | (never been to london either :) |
| 09:45.40 | elshaa | great |
| 09:45.55 | Discordian | short walk |
| 09:46.17 | Discordian | jubilee line to canary wharf |
| 09:46.37 | elshaa | sounds easy |
| 09:46.40 | elshaa | thank you ! |
| 09:46.40 | Leeds | it isn't |
| 09:46.43 | Discordian | then one stop to south quay |
| 09:46.44 | elshaa | haha |
| 09:46.58 | Leeds | have you been to London before? |
| 09:47.02 | Discordian | and hex is a few mins work |
| 09:47.07 | Discordian | walk |
| 09:47.11 | elshaa | Leeds: nop |
| 09:47.26 | Leeds | then take whatever time you think it will take to get there, and double it |
| 09:47.37 | Leeds | or get whoever is sending you to pay for a cab |
| 09:47.43 | Leeds | or both :-) |
| 09:47.43 | bilarh | i would strongly reccommend not walking around in london if you a) haven't been before and b) need to get somewhere for sure... better to take the tube all the way |
| 09:47.43 | Discordian | yeah good point |
| 09:48.00 | hali | walking for south quay to hex is like 2 mins though |
| 09:48.05 | hali | from* |
| 09:48.11 | elshaa | Leeds: yes :) |
| 09:48.40 | bilarh | yeah but changing in picadilly to jubilee isn't, if he picks the wrong road by accident |
| 09:48.54 | bilarh | seeing as there's about 7 of them down there to walk down it's quite a high risk, for not much reward :) |
| 09:48.58 | Leeds | elshaa: where are you coming from? |
| 09:49.08 | elshaa | Leeds: barcelona (but I'm french) |
| 09:49.31 | Leeds | ah, I screwed your granddaughter! |
| 09:49.34 | Discordian | then picadilly from heathrow to leics square,northern to waterloo, jubilee to canary,dlr to south quay |
| 09:50.05 | elshaa | Leeds: I don't have a granddaughter, but nice try :) |
| 09:50.13 | Leeds | seriously... getting across London like that is not easy |
| 09:50.39 | elshaa | ok. almost worth taking a cab then ? |
| 09:50.51 | Leeds | you'll pay what, 60 quid? |
| 09:51.00 | Discordian | taxi from lhr to hex is probably worth it |
| 09:51.03 | bilarh | a cab might take donkey's years, but might be worth it just for the stress factor |
| 09:51.16 | Discordian | it will be slow |
| 09:51.34 | Leeds | how much will it be? worth trying a minicab instead? |
| 09:51.57 | bilarh | i'd say 100 quid if he's unlucky and gets stuck in traffic :) |
| 09:52.03 | Leeds | elshaa: I'm a lot further away from London than you are :-) |
| 09:52.04 | bilarh | get a fixed price minicab instead |
| 09:52.23 | bilarh | and then they'll stand with a name sign inside the terminal :D |
| 09:52.29 | elshaa | 100 quids looks crazy |
| 09:52.36 | elshaa | bilarh: what's a minicab ? |
| 09:52.39 | Discordian | minicab would make sense |
| 09:53.05 | bilarh | elshaa: well, it's like a cab, but you have to prebook... and it wont look like a london cab, but more like a normal saloon car |
| 09:53.23 | Discordian | if you can navigate the barca metro, you can do the tube and dlr |
| 09:53.42 | elshaa | ok :) Discordian Have you been to bcn before ? |
| 09:53.43 | Leeds | saw a really cute video the other day - a bunch of people (some improv troupe or something similar) who went to a US airport, found a name on a board, then welcomed the people really effusively - made a big banner, balloons, flowers, etc. |
| 09:53.55 | elshaa | the tube here is quite small |
| 09:54.06 | elshaa | there is just 5 or 6 lines |
| 09:54.12 | Discordian | yeah i understood the bcn metro |
| 09:54.14 | bilarh | elshaa: that's like london then :D |
| 09:54.31 | Discordian | easier than the paris metro] |
| 09:54.33 | elshaa | ok :) |
| 09:54.34 | bilarh | it's very, very small indeed... :p |
| 09:54.39 | bilarh | and that's the problem with it |
| 09:54.43 | Leeds | the tube is a bloody nightmare |
| 09:54.56 | bilarh | i tell you what though, it's easier than the metro in New York |
| 09:54.58 | Leeds | compared with HK, Singapore, etc. :-D |
| 09:55.13 | bilarh | i never understood what i was supposed to be doing there, and the trains are like bi-hourly or something |
| 09:55.23 | bilarh | and you had to stand in the "safe zone" so you didn't get mugged :D |
| 09:55.31 | bilarh | ridicilous |
| 09:56.32 | elshaa | You guys arn't organizing anything between thursday and sunday (the time I stay in london) ? |
| 10:01.36 | bilarh | honestly, we don't really organise that much nowadays :( |
| 10:01.48 | bilarh | wethrin, who used to be the main driving force is too busy |
| 10:01.54 | bilarh | and nobody wanted to do talks :) |
| 10:01.58 | wethrin | It's true |
| 10:01.59 | bilarh | myself included |
| 10:02.13 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:02.27 | wethrin | Previously, Simon Morris organised things. Then he got family matters and a new job to attend to |
| 10:03.25 | wethrin | Before that, I think it was Dean |
| 10:03.30 | wethrin | or Zach |
| 10:03.47 | Discordian | and cillian |
| 10:04.52 | elshaa | all right :) |
| 10:05.02 | morsing | elshaa: It's your turn |
| 10:05.10 | elshaa | hehe |
| 10:05.17 | elshaa | for a very short time then :) |
| 10:06.26 | Leeds | I thought z00dax had just organised a meeting? |
| 10:09.07 | wethrin | Yes, Cillian did do one |
| 10:09.17 | wethrin | Leeds: The meeting was cancelled |
| 10:09.34 | wethrin | They'll resume again in January. Possibly. |
| 10:09.38 | Leeds | oh? |
| 10:10.14 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:10.38 | wethrin | Well, they're gathering some speakers |
| 10:10.45 | wethrin | morsing: You said that 8 minutes ago |
| 10:10.52 | wethrin | Please add something useful to the discussion if you'd like |
| 10:22.03 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:25.06 | wethrin | GAH |
| 10:25.57 | wethrin | 12 minute gap |
| 10:26.02 | wethrin | Are you bored again, morsing? |
| 10:31.46 | morsing | No, quite stressed and busy |
| 10:31.57 | morsing | I need beer |
| 10:32.05 | wethrin | Go get some! |
| 10:32.11 | morsing | Can't afford it |
| 10:32.16 | wethrin | Get paid! |
| 10:32.22 | wethrin | And give your agency a good kicking! |
| 10:32.40 | morsing | Get laid? Sounds like a good idea... |
| 10:32.41 | wethrin | Tell them you'll go with another agency if they don't pay your invoices on time |
| 10:32.47 | wethrin | That too |
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| 11:02.37 | morsing | Norwich! |
| 12:57.17 | boudicca | Kings Lynn |
| 12:57.39 | boudicca | Acle |
| 12:57.48 | boudicca | East Dereham |
| 13:00.01 | wethrin | Mornington Crescent! |
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| 14:16.30 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 14:16.42 | dick_turpin | morsing: :-) |
| 14:23.40 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Temp is dropping. Feeling home sick? |
| 14:24.03 | bilarh | no way |
| 14:24.11 | bilarh | i'm feeling sunnier-climate-sick |
| 14:24.25 | bilarh | how can it be so expensive to go to uni in this country |
| 14:24.31 | bilarh | my course fees for next year are 1140 quid! |
| 14:24.39 | bilarh | just worked it out now |
| 14:24.45 | bilarh | whinge whinge whinge |
| 14:24.54 | bilarh | where's my tax cut, alasdair? |
| 14:25.30 | wethrin | Because the government can't afford to send 50% of school leavers to Uni |
| 14:25.48 | bilarh | what a joke it is |
| 14:25.58 | wethrin | Tell me about it :( |
| 14:26.00 | morsing | Beer |
| 14:26.06 | bilarh | and i have to take two courses where i will learn absolutely zilch as i've done similar stuff in the past anyway |
| 14:26.20 | wethrin | have to? |
| 14:26.29 | bilarh | "open mathematics" which is an introductionary maths course that looks at "getting mathematics into your every day thinking" |
| 14:26.35 | wethrin | pfff |
| 14:26.41 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Ah I think he is now only cutting VAT in the hope we will spend what we saved on our mortgages on kettles and irons ect |
| 14:26.43 | bilarh | and "data, computing and infomration" about using a bleeding web browser |
| 14:26.59 | bilarh | wethrin: "have to" in order to get my bsc |
| 14:27.02 | bilarh | bsc hons |
| 14:27.11 | bilarh | if i settle for a bsc, i only have to do one course |
| 14:27.20 | bilarh | dont know how much difference the hons will make |
| 14:27.29 | bilarh | except for stressing me out for a year :) |
| 14:27.30 | wethrin | Hons nowadays means you haven't cocked up the course |
| 14:27.50 | wethrin | The degree classifications here are: 1st, 2.1, 2.2, 3rd (all Hons), and Pass (no Hons) |
| 14:28.02 | bilarh | ah i think it's different at the open uni |
| 14:28.06 | wethrin | Ah, possibly |
| 14:28.14 | bilarh | i can do an hons or no hons degree |
| 14:28.32 | bilarh | the honours degree has half a year's worth of more credits |
| 14:28.41 | bilarh | 120 credits to a year |
| 14:28.48 | bilarh | the no hons requires |
| 14:29.22 | bilarh | at least 120 level 2 credits, at least 60 level 3 credits and a total of at least 300 credits |
| 14:29.34 | bilarh | the hons one is the same except 120 level 3 creds and 360 credits overall |
| 14:32.24 | bilarh | for the purpose of degree / no degree, i wonder if employers care if it's a bsc or a bsc hons |
| 14:34.44 | wethrin | Unlikely |
| 14:34.58 | wethrin | No-one really bothers putting Hons down after their degree any more |
| 14:35.04 | wethrin | Unless they're an up-themselves wanker |
| 14:35.35 | bilarh | the cost difference is about 760 quid |
| 14:35.41 | wethrin | ouch |
| 14:36.18 | bilarh | if i do no hons, i only need to take 30 credits next year, at any level |
| 14:36.33 | bilarh | if i do an hons one, i need to take 90, and 30 have to be at level 3, which is actually quite hard |
| 14:36.43 | bilarh | or not hard, but requires a lot of time |
| 14:36.46 | wethrin | AFter a few years experience, employers won't care about your degree |
| 14:36.52 | bilarh | and i'm already struggling to find time to do anything at the moment |
| 14:37.06 | bilarh | i've already got 10 years experience anyway |
| 14:38.21 | bilarh | but then there's the social bit |
| 14:38.23 | dick_turpin | I too ashamed to put C.S.E. on mine :-( |
| 14:38.33 | bilarh | my mum wants to come to my degree ceremony |
| 14:38.48 | bilarh | and i don't know how i'd feel if it was only a bsc |
| 14:38.58 | bilarh | because in a way that will look like i'm a) lazy and b) a failure |
| 14:39.07 | bilarh | i'm a), but i don't want to look like it :D |
| 14:39.25 | z00dax | Leeds: I didnt organise anything. I was just told to put notice of a meeting on the website, which i did. |
| 14:39.36 | z00dax | aparently no one really knows who spoke to whom to organise what :D |
| 14:39.48 | Leeds | z00dax: fair enough - I was giving you too much credit :-) |
| 14:40.09 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Now there's an event we'll all come and chuck stale buns at you if you like? |
| 14:40.42 | bilarh | dick_turpin: i'd prefer tomatoes myself, i'm trying to lose weight |
| 14:41.08 | bilarh | and there might be some unsightly events if you chuck me a bunch of buns on stage :-\ |
| 14:41.24 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Cut youre bleedin leg off then :-) |
| 14:41.36 | dick_turpin | your |
| 14:42.02 | bilarh | you're momma |
| 14:42.15 | bilarh | damn, i'm almost as old as you now |
| 14:42.22 | bilarh | 29 :-\ |
| 14:42.25 | bilarh | i feel about 58 |
| 14:43.00 | dick_turpin | Ha, 47 feel about 25 :-P |
| 14:43.25 | bilarh | i want to get paid |
| 14:43.40 | bilarh | i'm desperate not to drop under the next "100" in my account so i can put some away into savings |
| 14:43.45 | bilarh | so that i can hand it all to uni later |
| 14:43.53 | dick_turpin | bilarh: You said you'd do me a freebie! |
| 14:44.03 | bilarh | no i think i said i'd do you one |
| 14:44.56 | boudiccas | spring chickens both of you :) |
| 14:45.03 | bilarh | hehe |
| 14:47.19 | Stephmw | boudiccas: so, when's your 76th? |
| 14:48.24 | boudiccas | Stephmw; next month, cheeky monkey! :) |
| 14:49.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: What do you know about the Chickens? In the privacy of an adults home... Oh I see what you mean, forget everything I just said |
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| 14:57.52 | bilarh | boudiccas: i think you've embarrassed him now :( |
| 14:59.58 | boudiccas | nah, he knows me too well to embarras him |
| 15:04.38 | bilarh | good point |
| 15:04.44 | bilarh | he's thick skinned anyway |
| 15:04.45 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:04.57 | wethrin | sighs at morsing |
| 15:05.19 | Stephmw | Boobs? |
| 15:05.31 | wethrin | HURRAY FOR BOOBS |
| 15:05.34 | bilarh | stephmw: where, where?!?! |
| 15:05.38 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:05.45 | bilarh | they, truly, are a thing of beauty |
| 15:05.50 | morsing | ... |
| 15:05.56 | wethrin | ignores morsing for a set period of time |
| 15:09.40 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:10.29 | Stephmw | bilarh: agreed! none around here alas |
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| 15:46.51 | bilarh | more tales from the front line |
| 15:47.05 | bilarh | so we've got this ksh script to check some disk statuses |
| 15:47.49 | Discordian | and ... |
| 15:48.03 | bilarh | some "programmer" has written a c-program to be called from the ksh script to read lines from stdin, and if the line has a string passed in as a parameter to the program, it returns 0, otherwise it returns 1 |
| 15:48.04 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:48.21 | Discordian | Clever stuff |
| 15:48.29 | bilarh | oh and it prints out the line as well if there is one |
| 15:48.44 | wethrin | auuugh |
| 15:48.45 | Discordian | Just find a LART and introduce him/her to read and echo |
| 15:48.47 | bilarh | it's literally all it does |
| 15:48.52 | bilarh | it's even worse |
| 15:49.23 | Discordian | errr not read |
| 15:49.24 | bilarh | i might introduce my good friend "grep" at some point :D |
| 15:49.35 | bilarh | he's replicated a sub set of grep |
| 15:49.48 | Discordian | heh why not reinvent the whole unix tool chain |
| 15:49.55 | bilarh | and now we have a binary for something that's supposed to be platform independant |
| 15:50.12 | Discordian | Hey you might even get famous, you could call it GNU |
| 15:50.15 | bilarh | so, we have binaries called prefix.i686 prefix.x86_64 prefix.sunos etc |
| 15:50.23 | Discordian | Urggle |
| 15:50.24 | bilarh | you couldn't make it up :D |
| 15:50.42 | Discordian | I saw something worse yesterday |
| 15:50.57 | Discordian | A noarch rpm full of x86 binaries |
| 15:51.23 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 15:51.32 | bilarh | always a classic |
| 15:51.48 | bilarh | my binary rpm wont install now |
| 15:51.54 | morsing | Orange juice |
| 15:52.06 | bilarh | because, oddly, on a linux system, rpm can't find libc (SUNW) |
| 15:52.12 | bilarh | because of that fucking binary |
| 15:52.21 | bilarh | i need to find a brick wall to bash my head against |
| 15:53.09 | Discordian | I remember when I was working at ICL, some operator restored a DRS3000 (x86) backup on a DRS6000 (sparc) system |
| 15:53.23 | antiphase | Endianness fail |
| 15:53.31 | Discordian | I got a phone, "the system won't work" |
| 15:53.49 | Discordian | well x86 vs sparc isn't just endianness |
| 15:54.27 | bilarh | i give up now, i'm just going to sit here and surf until i can go home |
| 15:54.29 | bilarh | in protest |
| 15:54.39 | bilarh | he's also re-invented "cut" |
| 15:54.46 | Discordian | people just don't seem to understand the differences between architectures |
| 15:54.58 | Discordian | chuckles |
| 15:55.13 | Discordian | His initials atren't RMS are they? |
| 15:55.23 | bilarh | no :) |
| 15:55.41 | bilarh | at least if they were, his programs would work exactly to spec and have millions of options nobody ever uses |
| 15:55.49 | Discordian | True |
| 15:55.54 | bilarh | and they would have a built in lisp compiler |
| 15:56.02 | bilarh | or interpreter |
| 15:56.06 | Discordian | You gotta love that elisp |
| 15:56.17 | bilarh | honestly, i never got my head around it |
| 15:56.25 | bilarh | more than ((set-background-colour 'wheat)) :) |
| 15:56.45 | Discordian | My lisp gets as far as (SETQ ABC (CONS 'XYZ '123)) |
| 15:56.49 | Discordian | and finishes |
| 15:56.59 | bilarh | ? |
| 15:57.00 | bilarh | :) |
| 15:57.35 | bilarh | right so about 10 years ago, i read this joke |
| 15:57.35 | Discordian | $ABC="XYZ" . "123"; in perl |
| 15:58.02 | bilarh | it was about a group of MIT lisp programmers (techlabs) that went out to dinner |
| 15:58.11 | Discordian | heh |
| 15:58.26 | bilarh | and then one of them wanted a soup, but he wondered if anyone would want to share it |
| 15:58.37 | bilarh | so he asked "splitp soup?" |
| 15:59.22 | antiphase | T |
| 15:59.22 | bilarh | now, i always thought it was just about splitting a soup with someone, as the p suffix was often used to indicate something that gives a boolean result in lisp |
| 15:59.29 | Discordian | heh I think that joke is in the jargon file |
| 15:59.35 | bilarh | yeah that's the one |
| 15:59.49 | antiphase | The "coffee or tea?" one certainly is |
| 16:00.04 | bilarh | but then last year, linh started talking about split pea soup |
| 16:00.23 | Discordian | has the hardback book |
| 16:00.24 | bilarh | and then it finally dawned on me that the joke actually had a second meaning to it |
| 16:00.30 | Discordian | Lol |
| 16:00.38 | bilarh | it only took me 9 years to get it :D |
| 16:00.44 | bilarh | and i thought it was pretty clever the first time around :D |
| 16:01.36 | Discordian | I can't remember what the LISP command to do what split does |
| 16:01.37 | bilarh | nobody but me thought it was a funny joke, and i was in tears in the clothes store |
| 16:01.56 | bilarh | apparently, i'm a "nerd" |
| 16:02.14 | Discordian | is too |
| 16:02.22 | Discordian | I loved the jargon file |
| 16:02.33 | bilarh | yeah it was brilliant |
| 16:02.44 | bilarh | is it still being updated? |
| 16:03.05 | Discordian | The hardback has the Guy Steele cartoons too |
| 16:03.26 | Discordian | I dunno, esr was the maintainer last time I looked |
| 16:03.46 | Discordian | I remember corresponding with him about '#' |
| 16:04.16 | Discordian | objecting to him only calling it 'pound' |
| 16:04.34 | bilarh | *the* most important server for certain types of production jobs failed this morning |
| 16:04.34 | Discordian | and not accepting that the UK calls it 'hash' |
| 16:04.39 | bilarh | here's the resolution |
| 16:04.41 | bilarh | "Failed CPU fan causing it to overheat. Eventually found a spare fan in one of Tony Wiggins test systems. System rebooting. fsck-ing disks at the moment. |
| 16:04.55 | bilarh | ah ffs, it wasn't supposed to have the name in it :) |
| 16:05.03 | bilarh | copy-paste fail |
| 16:05.10 | Discordian | Lol |
| 16:05.19 | Discordian | I'm impressed |
| 16:05.39 | Discordian | You don't monitor the hardware then |
| 16:05.51 | bilarh | ahem, that would mean we'd be proactive |
| 16:06.21 | wethrin | Eh, even with hardware monitoring, you'd still have to find a spare fan |
| 16:06.27 | Discordian | True |
| 16:06.32 | bilarh | if it wasn't 5 years old |
| 16:06.39 | wethrin | Maplin is good for fans |
| 16:06.40 | bilarh | outside of a maintenance contract |
| 16:06.45 | bilarh | maybe it wouldn't have failed |
| 16:06.52 | wethrin | I got a spare CPU fan for one of my 1U systems from there |
| 16:06.54 | Discordian | But you might manage before it went critical |
| 16:06.54 | bilarh | and maybe there'd be a backup server :) |
| 16:07.01 | wethrin | All the other shops on TCR had ricer-fans |
| 16:07.31 | Discordian | When I ran Time Out's servers they lived in our server room in Dockland with various external fans |
| 16:08.02 | Discordian | But that was a 4 CPU Ss20 with 200Mhz cpus |
| 16:08.14 | Discordian | Got rather hot |
| 16:09.47 | Discordian | There's certainly a copy of the jargon file for use with the dict/dictd stuff |
| 16:12.21 | Discordian | The timesstamps are 2002 so I guess it's no longer maintained |
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| 17:18.13 | rhowe_ | bilarh: Last fan we had fail was in a DL360 G3 |
| 17:18.30 | AndyMillar | rhowe_: that a common thing? |
| 17:18.34 | rhowe_ | bilarh: Found some guy on ebay selling them - took a train and picked one up (well, he gave us a bunch) |
| 17:18.38 | rhowe_ | AndyMillar: Nah, pretty rare |
| 17:18.43 | AndyMillar | good :) |
| 17:18.51 | rhowe_ | bilarh: Box was up and running by the afternoon |
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| 17:44.02 | Provito | generally the sensors rpm will lower before failing, so when sticking in a new fan use lm-sensors and grep for the value, if the value drops you know the fan's on the way out, the combined with a rising cpu temp |
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| 18:16.58 | morsing | ChoHag! |
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| 18:32.13 | kaytat | Hi everyone. I'vejust moved to London and I'm looking for a computer hardware "superstore"; someplace I can go to build a new computer, for example. |
| 18:32.16 | kaytat | Any recommendations? |
| 18:34.13 | kaytat | I wasn't too impressed with the stores on Tottenham Court Road. |
| 18:34.53 | z00dax | kaytat: the idea of computer superstores seem to elude most of europe |
| 18:35.00 | Discordian | PC World? the weekly computer fairs? |
| 18:35.03 | Provito | kaytat, why not just order the bits online, overclockers, scan etc |
| 18:35.04 | morsing | kaytat! |
| 18:35.04 | z00dax | so most people just buy online |
| 18:38.25 | kaytat | There was MediaMarkt on the continent, but they don't have stores in the UK. And I understand the value of buying stuff online, but sometimes you just want that instant gratification of buying something at the store. |
| 18:39.37 | kaytat | oohh, weekly computer fairs? Like used equipment also? |
| 18:39.53 | wethrin | Generally not |
| 18:41.17 | morsing | Beer |
| 18:44.48 | wethrin | Ah, morsing's always good to add value to a discussion |
| 18:50.54 | Discordian | would he pass the turing test? |
| 18:51.31 | morsing | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Optimusprimealtmoviemode.jpg/800px-Optimusprimealtmoviemode.jpg |
| 18:52.53 | wethrin | Only occasionally |
| 18:59.03 | morsing | Beer |
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| 19:09.21 | morsing | catalyst! |
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| 19:52.08 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 20:03.27 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:45.59 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:46.50 | morsing | http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v168/badass70nova/?action=view¤t=M2U00045.flv |
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| 21:31.20 | Nafallo | morsing! |
| 21:31.25 | morsing | Nafallo! |
| 21:31.27 | hali | yo |
| 21:31.31 | morsing | Beer |
| 21:31.40 | Nafallo | meeh... |
| 21:31.59 | Nafallo | reads that as morsing is now associating him with beer... |
| 21:32.08 | Nafallo | hej hali |
| 21:32.54 | Discordian | Nah morsing just says beer every 30 mins |
| 21:53.49 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:18.37 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:22.18 | morsing | catalyst: Where's Sally? |
| 22:46.11 | z00dax | morsing: here |
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