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04:46.33 | morsing | Leeds! |
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09:27.20 | ChoHag | Dammit why does everyone seem to want to stop firefox from closing the window when the last tab is closed? |
09:27.30 | ChoHag | How do I turn that back on? |
09:27.53 | bilarh | you mean the "are you sure you want to close" dialogue box? |
09:28.21 | ChoHag | No. I mean it opens a new tab whenever I close the last one. |
09:28.34 | bilarh | confused |
09:29.12 | Leeds | bilarh: if you have a single tab open, and you close it - it doesn't close the browser, it replaces the closed tab with a blank one |
09:29.19 | bilarh | ah right |
09:29.23 | ChoHag | Yeah what he said. |
09:29.43 | Leeds | there's probably an option somewhere in about:config |
09:31.01 | ChoHag | I don't think so. |
09:31.16 | bilarh | finds a rivalling C implementation of 'tr' in his rpm codebase *sigh* |
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09:32.01 | mindbendr | morning |
09:32.08 | bilarh | "let's see... i want a program that reads from stdin and replaces characters like the first arg with characters like the second arg" |
09:32.11 | ChoHag | Well you never know - maybe tr is unavailable. |
09:32.23 | bilarh | the obvious solution is to implement a c program to do it, isn't it? :) |
09:32.31 | bilarh | i've never even seen a system where tr is unavailable |
09:32.52 | ChoHag | Yes quite. |
09:34.45 | antiphase | bilarh: Where is it that you work precisely? |
09:34.56 | bilarh | antiphase: i'm too embarrased to say :) |
09:36.06 | bilarh | chohag: it comes in coreutils, so it's quite unlikely it wouldn't be there :D |
09:36.27 | bilarh | the way things are going, i might not be working here for much longer anyway |
09:37.25 | Discordian | heh |
09:37.26 | morsing | mindbendr! |
09:37.34 | ChoHag | By choice? |
09:38.04 | Discordian | Severely LARTing the sysadmin would probably get you the sack |
09:38.14 | bilarh | lart? :) |
09:38.38 | Discordian | well etherkill maybe |
09:38.51 | ChoHag | Grrr. "Go into options and disable the features that are annoying you" is NOT a trick. |
09:39.51 | bilarh | discordian: Luser Attitude Readjustment Tool? :P |
09:40.11 | Discordian | bilarj was it something they wrote on Windows? |
09:40.14 | Discordian | Yeah |
09:40.20 | bilarh | no it's on linux |
09:40.41 | bilarh | question is, who's the luser? :) is it me for working here, or someone else? |
09:41.12 | Discordian | the idiot who's reinvented all the tools they already have |
09:41.26 | bilarh | to be fair, it's one sysadmin/programmer that's written all this... i have no idea what the other software they write is like |
09:41.37 | bilarh | it must be quite good for the business we're in as people are keen on buying it :) |
09:41.58 | bilarh | but still, it grates me when someone writes something that is already there |
09:42.20 | Discordian | Does the src have a TM on it? |
09:42.25 | antiphase | I've seen the opposite on a couple of occasions, where someone knows many commands, but prefers to implement them all in Perl one-liners with optional system() calls or backticks |
09:43.04 | bilarh | discordian: no |
09:43.09 | morsing | Beer |
09:43.17 | bilarh | i'm guilty of back-ticking too much from time to time |
09:43.34 | bilarh | but not in a one-liner, admittedly |
09:45.39 | antiphase | Luckily for you, I can't remember where the Perl/Python implementation of `date -d 'yesterday'` lives in our code |
09:46.01 | morsing | antiphase: That's not right, is it? |
09:46.43 | antiphase | Welcome to GNU date. I think the bloke was a BSD enthusiast |
09:47.10 | Discordian | Heh |
09:47.12 | morsing | stuffs a treat up antiphase' nose |
09:47.23 | Discordian | I was gonna say that's in GNU date |
09:47.30 | antiphase | `date -v -1d` works on BSD though. The bloke was just a loonie |
09:49.02 | hali | reminds me of the "portfwd" tool i saw at a clients site once (big bank) ... it could forward tcp ports between boxes |
09:49.11 | bilarh | ah crap |
09:49.18 | hali | the syntax was very good "portfwd -L500:192.168.1.1:5000 remotebox" |
09:49.27 | bilarh | i think i might have just dropped a politically incorrect stinking turd on the floor |
09:49.41 | hali | turns out it's was just a staticly linked ssh binary renamed :S |
09:50.26 | bilarh | so, my ex boss calls up and starts whinging about something, i say "stop whinging, you sound like a woman", forgetting that there's a woman right behind me |
09:50.30 | bilarh | and this is like the most PC place ever |
09:50.44 | bilarh | awaits his disciplinary action with baited breath |
09:50.51 | ChoHag | Ah I thought that syntax looked familiar. |
09:50.52 | bilarh | they put local government to shame |
09:51.03 | bilarh | hali: at least they didn't rewrite it :D |
09:52.08 | morsing | Cawfy |
09:52.28 | morsing | Colleague was surprised to find out he couldn't outrun an email... |
09:52.33 | antiphase | baits bilarh's breath with more maggots |
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09:58.41 | ChoHag | Greasemonkey "Please puck an executable extension for user scripts" (without telling me what they might be) |
09:58.52 | ChoHag | It's a fucking text file. What does an extension matter? |
09:58.57 | ChoHag | Bloody windows users. |
10:01.26 | ChoHag | Oh never mind. I misread it. |
10:01.43 | morsing | offers ChoHag more cawfy |
10:02.03 | ChoHag | Still - bloody windows users - never a wasted phrase. |
10:18.33 | morsing | Anyone here ever tried using colour-tune plugs? |
10:19.23 | ChoHag | Anyone here know what they are? |
10:19.35 | morsing | ChoHag: My guess would be yes... |
10:21.33 | morsing | But most people are apparently asleep at this time of day... |
10:26.48 | morsing | goes back to saying 'beer' randomly |
10:27.30 | wethrin | Most people might even be *working* at this time of day |
10:27.41 | morsing | lol :) Right... |
10:28.02 | wethrin | Not everyone's job allows them to sit all day on IRC |
10:29.15 | wethrin | Such as today. I'm going to be spending most of the day in the cleanroom |
10:30.04 | morsing | yay! :))) Have fun!!! |
10:41.12 | mindbendr | cleanroom? |
10:42.51 | ChoHag | Not at your house. |
10:44.07 | morsing | mindbendr: wethrin wears a space suit in there |
10:44.14 | morsing | (and I'm not joking!) |
10:44.23 | morsing | No photos available though |
10:44.41 | mindbendr | hmm |
10:45.16 | mindbendr | a spacesuit would be nice at the tube |
10:45.35 | mindbendr | or any public transport |
10:45.43 | mindbendr | i'm sick of getting cold or flu |
10:54.08 | wethrin | It's not a space suit. It's a cleanroom suit |
10:55.01 | antiphase | Space suit would be excessive when all you need is a bit of relative positive pressure inside to keep the bugs out |
10:55.22 | antiphase | Space suit also doesn't let farts out |
10:55.30 | mindbendr | hmm that'd be a problem |
10:55.52 | mindbendr | may be it does |
10:56.18 | wethrin | antiphase: The positive pressure is in the room generally. The cleanroom suit itself is just a cover so any dust that the person generates is trapped inside the suit, rather than being let into the room |
10:56.25 | mindbendr | what do the astronauts do then? |
10:56.35 | mindbendr | fart and breath. |
10:57.15 | morsing | Beer |
10:57.32 | wethrin | No, they don't have beer in space |
10:57.53 | morsing | !! |
10:58.08 | mindbendr | sounds like everybody in the channel was an astranaut once |
10:58.11 | Discordian | recycled urine |
10:58.28 | morsing | wethrin: Photos? |
10:59.42 | wethrin | http://eco.li/photos |
10:59.56 | morsing | No space suit photos there - only Toby photos |
11:00.42 | mindbendr | toby and sam |
11:00.43 | wethrin | http://www.dur.ac.uk/images/EngineeringPages/Memsclnrm.jpg |
11:28.50 | bilarh | result, i actually got a refund from a paypal seller :D |
11:28.57 | wethrin | ooh |
11:28.58 | wethrin | how? |
11:29.01 | wethrin | Or what for? |
11:29.01 | bilarh | ordered a bunch of bolts about a month ago but didn't get anything |
11:29.06 | wethrin | ahh |
11:29.07 | bilarh | and then i heard nothing about it |
11:29.12 | bilarh | it was a big company, but still :) |
11:29.17 | antiphase | suspects set screws rather than bolts |
11:29.38 | bilarh | so i opened a dispute with paypal yesterday and then they replied to that and said the bolts were out of stock |
11:29.39 | morsing | wethrin: You shaved for that photo! |
11:29.47 | bilarh | antiphase: what's a set scrwe? |
11:29.52 | bilarh | this was for m12 banjo bolts |
11:29.56 | wethrin | I'm annoyed by an ebid seller - bought some headphones off them a couple of months ago. They didn't arrive. Prodded them, they said they were probably lost in the post, and would send another one out. That didn't arrive |
11:30.03 | wethrin | And, frankly, i can't be arsed chasing it up any more |
11:30.04 | bilarh | or whatever it is that goes inside the "banjo" |
11:30.07 | wethrin | Not worth it timewise |
11:30.43 | wethrin | morsing: I often shave. I'm not in those photos, anyway |
11:30.43 | morsing | You're the guy in white, no? |
11:30.43 | wethrin | no |
11:30.43 | morsing | :( |
11:30.43 | bilarh | yeah like when that a-hole from barnsley ran off with my 150 quid for a turbo |
11:30.49 | morsing | Turbos-- |
11:30.50 | bilarh | in the end i couldn't be bothered |
11:30.56 | antiphase | A bolt has an unthreaded shoulder, whereas most things people call bolts are set screws |
11:31.20 | bilarh | shoulder = the part under the head? |
11:31.23 | morsing | Weird |
11:31.26 | antiphase | Fo shizzle |
11:31.32 | bilarh | so it is a bolt then :D |
11:31.36 | antiphase | \o/ |
11:31.55 | antiphase | This was a public aservice announcement from the set screw awareness authority |
11:33.00 | bilarh | RESPEKT MY AUTHORITY |
11:33.18 | bilarh | authoriteeeEEE |
11:33.20 | morsing | Beer |
11:33.37 | bilarh | morsing: if you say beer once more, i'm going to elbow you on your nose |
11:43.44 | morsing | Beer |
11:44.27 | j0nr | morning |
11:44.36 | morsing | *sigh* |
11:45.01 | kjs | anyone know of a cheap place to get a shell from? just for runnin irssi & screen, im getting moaned at for having a £45 a month vm for irssi :) |
11:45.22 | bilarh | delivers an elbow to morsings nose. Mr Nose, meet Mr Elbow. |
11:45.23 | j0nr | morsing: hope you're not sighing at me! |
11:45.30 | morsing | j0nr: I am |
11:45.37 | morsing | j0nr: Can't treat people differently |
11:45.39 | bilarh | kjs: openhosting.com |
11:45.42 | morsing | kjs: May I offer you one? |
11:47.02 | j0nr | don't worry, i am not going to ask any questions... |
11:48.06 | kjs | morsing: ? |
11:54.32 | morsing | 11:45 < kjs> anyone know of a cheap place to get a shell from? just for runnin irssi & screen, im getting moaned at for having a £45 a month vm for irssi :) |
11:55.26 | blight | kjs: bytemark.co.uk |
11:55.37 | morsing | blight: LOL - are you serious? :D |
11:56.21 | blight | morsing: stepping in halfway in the conversation here but I use them - costs me £15 or so a month I think |
11:56.35 | blight | morsing: of course overkill for just a shell to use for irc |
11:56.37 | antiphase | I've got a 15 quid Bytemark VM as well |
11:56.44 | morsing | blight: Try a /whois |
11:56.55 | blight | morsing: on who? |
11:56.57 | antiphase | Chuck in backup MX and DSN as well as IRC and it's worth it |
11:57.09 | morsing | blight: Who were your comment directed at? |
11:57.19 | morsing | 11:54 [freenode] -!- kjs [n=kjs@mx1.vm.bytemark.co.uk] |
11:57.34 | antiphase | 15 quid != 45 quid |
11:57.41 | morsing | kjs: If you buy me a beer you have a free shell |
11:57.53 | blight | kjs: there are free shells out there too |
11:57.55 | morsing | As long as you don't abuse it and I'lll kick you |
11:58.00 | antiphase | He'll only sniff your traffic on Sundays |
11:58.38 | kjs | ahah, i only use it for irssi and screen. |
12:07.18 | AndyMillar | and tcpdump |
12:08.58 | morsing | Beer |
12:41.32 | morsing | Beer |
12:43.38 | an0key | hmmm beer |
12:52.15 | bilarh | fuck me i'm bored |
12:52.58 | morsing | fucks bilarh silly |
12:53.14 | bilarh | i was just going to type that i didn't mean it literally |
12:53.28 | morsing | Well, we had fun in the meantime ;) |
12:53.30 | bilarh | scoobynet to the rescue |
12:53.35 | morsing | Or was it not good for you? |
12:55.39 | hali | lube gentlemen |
12:55.47 | morsing | mmmmmmmmmmmmm lube |
12:55.53 | morsing | Creamy |
13:03.46 | blight | can anyone here recommend a USB ADSL modem that works on Linux |
13:04.08 | morsing | No |
13:10.05 | hali | Nafallo: talking to your old employeer again :) |
13:10.30 | Nafallo | hali: huh. why are you talking to Ultraspeed? :-) |
13:11.08 | hali | datahop |
13:11.13 | Nafallo | ah |
13:11.29 | hali | getting pricing on DC-crossconnects |
13:11.38 | hali | im considering DR in bluesquare |
13:12.14 | hali | in the sticks, maidenhead or milton keynes |
13:12.37 | morsing | Beer |
13:29.07 | kjs | guys, if a job asks for "datacenter experiance" what exactly are they asking for? |
13:29.47 | kjs | someone who know how to rack up servers etc and understands how a datacenter works? and can deal with high levels of noise :) |
13:30.19 | morsing | Something like that :) |
13:30.58 | antiphase | Not being a complete retard is useful. Many people that could in principle operate a screwdriver are utterly useless at being datacentre operatives |
13:32.02 | hali | not bringing a kebab and stella in to the datacentre |
13:32.27 | kjs | "Datacentre experience is essential" I have never worked in a large datacenter, however I know how to rack servers etc... |
13:32.52 | hali | it's usually slightly different in bigger dc's .. i.e. you can't do as much as you'd like yourself |
13:33.07 | hali | you can't have cables hagning between racks etc... cabling needs to be tidy and done by a certified cabling company |
13:33.13 | mindbendr | kjs: apply then |
13:33.32 | hali | but nothing you can't pick up in like a week |
13:34.03 | antiphase | People rarely just rack kit though, they may have to be able to do basic networking and deal with customers |
13:34.15 | hali | hm, working for a dc/isp sucks so bad though |
13:34.30 | hali | everything on a tiny budget, stupid customers |
13:34.40 | kjs | yeah sure, |
13:34.52 | antiphase | Being a rack monkey is soul destroying whoever you work for I suspect |
13:35.01 | hali | yes |
13:35.15 | hali | where typing "switchport access vlan 504" is the hightlight of your day |
13:35.26 | kjs | it's not so much a rack monkey, but states that is needed. |
13:35.46 | antiphase | What is it then? Give us the goods |
13:35.48 | hali | a real job with some parts of it in a dc is probably fine |
13:36.27 | mindbendr | i can't even stand to spend a day in a DC, can't imagine working there |
13:37.02 | kjs | its just some small local contract around here deploying and supporting rhel |
13:37.57 | morsing | Beer |
13:38.11 | antiphase | Sounds suss if they want you to support it competently as well as get your hands dirty |
13:39.32 | kjs | antiphase: yeah it's probably hell. |
13:40.48 | kjs | tbh the amount of "effort" i just put into writing the covering letter may reflect the fact i cba to write a covering letter atm :) |
14:23.04 | morsing | kjs: Did you get the job? |
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14:23.49 | morsing | Nafallo_! |
14:23.57 | morsing | :( |
14:24.05 | morsing | That was quick... |
14:24.07 | morsing | :((( |
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14:24.25 | morsing | \o/ |
14:24.28 | morsing | Nafallo!!!!!!!! |
14:24.33 | morsing | We thought we'd lost you :) |
14:24.45 | morsing | antiphase was in tears... |
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14:32.43 | morsing | boudiccas! |
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14:37.33 | morsing | Leeds! |
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15:01.42 | morsing | Nafallo! |
15:16.00 | ChoHag | Oh for a LOM. |
15:16.33 | ChoHag | ilo is highly gay. |
15:17.08 | morsing | SMS |
15:17.10 | morsing | ftw |
15:22.14 | hali | ilo is pretty good imo |
15:22.20 | hali | at least the full blown iLO2 with advanced pack |
15:22.49 | hali | SMS? shouldn't you be on about HMC? |
15:23.13 | morsing | No - two different things |
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15:23.20 | morsing | kjs! |
15:23.32 | morsing | kjs: Like your ident field ;) |
15:27.32 | ChoHag | Hah! HP give you different downloads for firmware depending on which OS you select. |
15:27.41 | morsing | Beer |
15:30.37 | blight | morsing: grab one for me too - I could use one |
15:30.42 | morsing | ?? |
15:31.34 | blight | --> Beer |
15:31.45 | morsing | Oh right... You confused me |
15:32.34 | blight | What you/you planning on drinking? |
15:32.41 | ChoHag | You obviously weren't thinking enough about beer. |
15:32.42 | morsing | Sherry |
15:32.57 | morsing | ChoHag: You're right :) FAIL |
15:33.05 | blight | morsing: chaser? :) |
15:33.18 | morsing | Sherry with whisky? Hmm... Interesting |
15:34.04 | blight | morsing: I meant beer and sherry chaser :) |
15:34.13 | morsing | lol :) |
15:34.40 | morsing | 20 mins to go |
15:34.56 | blight | morsing: ? home time? |
15:35.00 | blight | morsing: beer time? |
15:35.00 | ChoHag | 25. |
15:35.20 | morsing | blight: Home time |
15:35.49 | blight | morsing: early shift? or that regular leaving time? |
15:35.57 | morsing | Regular leaving time |
15:35.58 | blight | morsing: I'm here till 18:00 ... gah |
15:36.02 | morsing | Nice |
15:36.35 | blight | morsing: by nice I assume you mean shit :) |
15:37.18 | morsing | Yeah |
15:37.28 | morsing | blight: Where's Nicki? |
15:37.44 | blight | morsing: now you've lost me |
15:40.06 | morsing | http://www.strappe.com/plug_plain_16.gif |
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15:50.51 | morsing | Beer |
15:53.18 | blight | morsing: stop taunting me |
15:54.17 | morsing | Home time! |
15:54.19 | morsing | Bye!! |
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17:48.28 | morsing | j0nr_! |
17:48.31 | morsing | Nafallo! |
17:48.37 | morsing | sabinef72! |
17:50.23 | Nafallo | hi |
17:51.36 | hali | Nafallo: not at dreamhack winter then? :) |
17:51.40 | hali | just saw it's on |
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17:53.05 | Nafallo | hali: I've went to exactly ONE dreamhack, and that was while it was still once a year in borlange. back in 1999. |
17:59.55 | hali | never been but i wanted to when i was younger, mostly to perv over their big chassis switches :) |
18:00.02 | hali | ok, pub time |
18:28.23 | morsing | Beer |
18:36.10 | ChoHag | Hmm. |
18:36.16 | ChoHag | Tidy up, code, or watch star trek. |
18:36.53 | morsing | Star Trek-- |
18:36.53 | morsing | Code- |
18:37.01 | morsing | Tidy up- |
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19:52.10 | morsing | Beer |
19:52.29 | morsing | ChoHag: The suspense is killing us - what did you end up doing? |
19:54.37 | morsing | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld78iVuH2YQ |
20:28.17 | ChoHag | Star Trek. |
20:28.32 | morsing | yuck :(( Poor you |
20:30.32 | ChoHag | How much are flat screens going for these days? |
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20:31.40 | morsing | boudiccas! |
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20:34.30 | morsing | sabinef72! |
20:37.54 | z00dax | ChoHag: depends on what you want, a decent samsung 24" should be about £250 |
20:38.09 | z00dax | or get an HP/Dell for about £340 |
20:38.10 | ChoHag | For TV mostly. |
20:38.25 | z00dax | in which case, why not get a TV ? |
20:38.29 | ChoHag | We only have a small flat. 24" may be a bit much. |
20:38.38 | ChoHag | Well when I say 'TV' I mean 'DVDs'. |
20:38.47 | ChoHag | And the closest I have to a DVD player is the mac mini. |
20:38.55 | morsing | Beer |
20:38.56 | z00dax | 24" isnt that big really |
20:39.03 | ChoHag | It will be here. |
20:39.18 | z00dax | HP do a 23" display, 1920x1080, so HD ok |
20:39.21 | ChoHag | I have a 21" monitor and it's the biggest thing in the flat after the fridge. |
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20:51.50 | morsing | sally! |
20:51.56 | morsing | Ermm... sabinef72! |
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21:06.50 | morsing | sabinef72! |
21:33.53 | morsing | Beer |
22:27.05 | morsing | G'night all |
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