| 00:27.15 | kjs | beer |
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| 02:18.02 | kjs | wonders if anyone else is still up |
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| 07:45.49 | morsing | rhowe! |
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| 08:10.43 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:51.05 | kjs | Hummm, last night i swapped hosting from one company to my linux server, before they had an exchange server picking up mail with a pop connector... i changed to smtp and for a postfix server to relay mail for that exchange server. Last ngiht they had 100 old emails resent to them... any ideas?? I don't see them on my server logs wondering why exchange would do this, unless it is the old hosting company. |
| 09:58.53 | antiphase | Tell them to delete the duplicates and hope it doesn't happen again |
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| 10:38.46 | j0nr | morning |
| 10:38.53 | Discordian | Morning |
| 10:39.18 | j0nr | i'm bemused... once again |
| 10:39.18 | morsing | Uh-oh - someone trying to scam me... |
| 10:40.31 | j0nr | i installed a mail server collection of items (heh) using synaptic. I just opened mutt and sent an email and it went out to the outside world. from my user@mymachine but obviously i couldnt reply to that address |
| 10:42.01 | morsing | Ermm... Any sensible way of dealing with scammers, i.e. report them somewhere or is it a waste of time? |
| 10:42.20 | antiphase | What variety of scammer? |
| 10:42.21 | Stephmw | hitmen? |
| 10:44.08 | morsing | Well, I posted a "Wanted" ad ona forum a while ago and he's saying he has item I want. Have been emailing him fora week and he's now sent me an email saying I should pay 390 EUR by Western Union to his "friend". I Googled his email address because how dumb does he think I am, and he's on a scammer list somewhere already |
| 10:46.12 | Stephmw | UK-based? |
| 10:46.23 | morsing | Hmm...Suppose you can't really get these people |
| 10:46.49 | wethrin | Simplest is to ignore it. You can report him to the police, but it's doubtful they'll do anything |
| 10:47.02 | morsing | Well, think so, Mark Creek and he's got a yahoo.co.uk address. He's on this list: http://www.xmission.com/~daina/known_scammers.html |
| 10:47.54 | wethrin | j0nr: You need to tell mutt your correct email address |
| 10:48.23 | wethrin | 'set from="j0nr <j0nr@j0nr.com>"' |
| 10:48.24 | morsing | Right, going to town, bbl |
| 10:48.26 | wethrin | in your .muttrc |
| 10:48.28 | wethrin | bye |
| 10:51.39 | hali | df |
| 10:51.42 | hali | fail! |
| 10:51.50 | wethrin | Your disks are FULL! |
| 10:52.53 | hali | of porno? |
| 10:53.03 | hali | i knew those thumpers wouldn't last long |
| 10:53.35 | bilarh | well, if the disks are full of porn, i fail to see the problem |
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| 11:35.42 | hali | bilarh: i can't get any *more* porn on there, that's a huge problem |
| 11:38.20 | bilarh | maybe delete some obscure ones |
| 11:38.37 | bilarh | like rm -rf /interracial_midgets |
| 11:41.00 | Nafallo | drobo? :-) |
| 11:41.34 | Nafallo | or ready for a BlueArc? ;-) |
| 11:47.08 | ChoHag | I'm bored. |
| 11:47.43 | bilarh | chohag: check out hali's disks |
| 11:49.13 | ChoHag | They sound NSFW. |
| 12:48.48 | j0nr | wethrin: thanks... altho i wont bother setting it up... just was amazed it sent the mail out. |
| 12:49.05 | j0nr | i will still one day get round to understanding the whole mail server thing |
| 13:01.25 | ChoHag | No you won't. |
| 13:01.57 | ChoHag | Nobody does. |
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| 13:38.25 | wethrin | Pff. SMTP isn't hard. |
| 13:39.31 | ChoHag | Well duh. It's the SIMPLE mail transfer protocol. Of course it isn't hard. |
| 13:40.25 | Nafallo | hahaha |
| 13:40.44 | Nafallo | and no, SMTP isn't the hard part of mailservers ;-) |
| 13:41.21 | antiphase | What's the hard bit? |
| 13:41.31 | wethrin | Having a clue :) |
| 13:42.32 | antiphase | goes back in time and uninvents greylisting |
| 13:43.27 | wethrin | How about just killing spammers' parents? |
| 13:43.51 | wethrin | As greylisting wouldn't be needed, if it wasn't for a bunch of cockwaffles |
| 13:45.43 | Nafallo | wethrin: as I said... SMTP isn't the hard part. all the automagic things to DTRT is the hard part. including the Terminators on mission to stop 'bad' e-mail :-) |
| 13:48.15 | ChoHag | Here's a question - how much violence is too much in the fight against spammers? |
| 13:48.32 | Nafallo | ChoHag: none. |
| 13:49.37 | antiphase | DNS blacklists spend their day helping African children when they're not stopping 99% of spam |
| 13:50.03 | antiphase | It's been months since any spam got anywhere near my SpamAssassin instance |
| 13:52.47 | Provito | antiphase, what RBL are you using? |
| 13:53.01 | antiphase | cbl.abuseat.org, pbl.spamhaus.org |
| 13:54.43 | antiphase | I've been using them for a while, maybe another spamhaus list would be more appropriate these days. IT's not broke though, so I cba to fix it |
| 13:54.46 | ChoHag | Bloody dell. |
| 13:54.46 | Provito | antiphase, why not zen.spamhaus.org ? |
| 13:55.07 | dick_turpin | All email is spam until its something you actually want to read, the title SPAM is such an easy one to apply "Groan another credit card offer" "Ooh Virgin Cards are offering 0% on purchases and 150% loyalty bonuses I'll have one of them" |
| 13:55.13 | Provito | antiphase, for spamhaus zen is recommended |
| 13:55.18 | ChoHag | About 5 minutes in the post, just long enough for me to stop focussing while grub pops up for 5 seconds. |
| 13:55.18 | antiphase | Spamhaus are still basically Nazis, so I wouldn't ever trust their most punitive list because I like receiving legitimate mail |
| 13:57.08 | ChoHag | Shall I have pizza for lunch? |
| 14:01.52 | Provito | antiphase, I've added cbl.abuseat.org back in again, I took it out but I'll see how it performs again |
| 14:02.10 | morsing | ChoHag: Where's Sally? |
| 14:02.12 | Provito | I'm running zen.spamhaus.org and haven't had a problem with rejected mail, been using it for a while |
| 14:07.41 | wethrin | ChoHag: Yes. Have pizza |
| 14:07.51 | morsing | Beer |
| 14:08.52 | morsing | ibot MOS |
| 14:10.11 | wethrin | Metal Oxide Semiconductor |
| 14:10.13 | wethrin | Obviously. |
| 14:10.42 | morsing | Ermm... No - something to do with breasts. Anyone know? Google is vague |
| 14:12.50 | bilarh | i know a thing or two about breasts after 20'ish years of intense study.. never heard MOS used in conjunction with breasts, though |
| 14:14.20 | morsing | Hmm... Further Googling suggests it's a type of person rather than specifically breast related although clearly something of a very sexual nature |
| 14:14.33 | Stephmw | I side with bilarh here |
| 14:15.32 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Studying your own does not count :-P |
| 14:16.57 | bilarh | thought i'd start close to home |
| 14:18.19 | morsing | Ahh!!! Found it! God, simple but confusing out of context... |
| 14:18.44 | morsing | I think it's the first meaning here that was used: |
| 14:18.45 | morsing | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mos |
| 14:19.21 | dick_turpin | laughs sadistically at the news that PC World is in the shit |
| 14:19.32 | morsing | PC World-- |
| 14:19.56 | boudiccas | peeceeworld, now theres a name to conjure with |
| 14:20.29 | boudiccas | and talking about names, whats a female jackass called? a jillass? |
| 14:27.49 | boudiccas | why has it all gone quiet in here? |
| 14:28.17 | Discordian | hi boudiccas |
| 14:28.23 | Discordian | how's xp? |
| 14:28.24 | boudiccas | hi Discordian |
| 14:28.40 | boudiccas | still unable to load and install properly |
| 14:28.50 | Discordian | oh dear |
| 14:28.58 | boudiccas | i'm going to put fedora 10 on the lappie and use that |
| 14:29.24 | Discordian | aren't comet part of the same group as pc world? |
| 14:29.43 | boudiccas | dont think os |
| 14:29.48 | boudiccas | *so |
| 14:30.12 | boudiccas | currys digital are |
| 14:30.20 | Discordian | ahh currys yeah |
| 14:30.50 | Discordian | I'd better take a look at f10 |
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| 15:11.03 | Armand | morsing! |
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| 15:36.48 | kraptv | Chewbacca. |
| 15:36.55 | Armand | ? |
| 15:45.33 | dick_turpin | Ooh snow |
| 15:47.02 | Armand | not here. >_< |
| 15:49.54 | bilarh | bugger this, i'm moving to sweden |
| 15:49.56 | bilarh | http://www.svenskfast.se/Templates/ObjectView.aspx?objectid=3IGB91KCFIEKT5I7 |
| 15:50.02 | bilarh | 120 grand |
| 15:50.09 | bilarh | 6 rooms |
| 15:50.16 | bilarh | 900 sqm garden |
| 15:50.19 | bilarh | wide garage |
| 15:50.49 | Stephmw | and that's just the dollhouse? |
| 15:52.11 | morsing | Armand! |
| 15:52.13 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 15:52.32 | bilarh | stephmw: yeah :P |
| 15:52.56 | bilarh | i keep seeing all these people on tv who move to australia |
| 15:53.01 | bilarh | and buy a house immediately |
| 15:53.06 | bilarh | how do they actually get a mortgage? |
| 15:53.25 | ChoHag | Decisions decisions. Fuck about with the autoyast system to create a SLES box, or fuck about creating a new install system to create a Debian box? |
| 15:53.32 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Its all foreign I cant read it :-P |
| 15:53.44 | morsing | bilarh: Why not? Only England is bizarre that way |
| 15:53.52 | morsing | Could do the same in Denmark |
| 15:54.20 | bilarh | morsing: what do you mean? |
| 15:54.28 | bilarh | morsing: insane house prices, or what? |
| 15:54.32 | morsing | Could do the same in Denmark |
| 15:54.39 | morsing | ?? |
| 15:54.40 | Leeds | bilarh: they have a job and a large deposit? |
| 15:54.45 | bilarh | yeah but i don't speak danish |
| 15:54.54 | bilarh | leeds: ah... i've got the deposit, i think |
| 15:55.02 | bilarh | unless brown fucks the pound up further |
| 15:55.10 | Leeds | oh, I'm sure he will |
| 15:55.28 | bilarh | which is why i'm going to the hsbc up the road tomorrow to open a euro account |
| 15:56.35 | Leeds | my HKD current account works fine :-) |
| 15:58.47 | dick_turpin | is investing all his money in toilet rolls, he'll make a killing on all the people shitting themselves in January 2009 |
| 16:00.24 | kinko | any opinons of netdisco? |
| 16:01.33 | z00dax | kinko: someone told me about it a few months back, have not looked. |
| 16:01.38 | Nafallo | kinko: yea... disco are more fun IRL. get a life, leave the computer ;-) |
| 16:01.41 | z00dax | not sure if thats the sort of opinion you had in mind |
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| 16:02.59 | kinko | kicks nafallo |
| 16:03.30 | Nafallo | kinko: you haven't got op :-P |
| 16:03.33 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 16:04.20 | ChoHag | This server I was sort of hoping to use for vservers doesn't have the right cpu extensions |
| 16:06.03 | kinko | vt :S |
| 16:06.31 | cpufreak | throw it out hen |
| 16:06.35 | cpufreak | s/hen/then/ |
| 16:07.00 | cpufreak | ibot is sit |
| 16:07.02 | cpufreak | s/sit/shit/ |
| 16:07.06 | cpufreak | :) |
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| 16:09.27 | ChoHag | How fast are 2 hyperthreaded 3.2G xeons going run virtual machines without the cpu extension? |
| 16:10.15 | morsing | david28! |
| 16:12.18 | david28 | hello everyone |
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| 16:15.42 | morsing | http://www.the-north-pole.com/carols/look.html |
| 16:18.56 | ChoHag | Hmm does playing with xen sound like fun? |
| 16:19.08 | morsing | No |
| 16:19.29 | ChoHag | No? |
| 16:22.20 | ChoHag | ... why? |
| 16:35.17 | kjs | xen is ok, |
| 16:35.51 | kjs | virtual machines are hell though :) |
| 16:38.55 | ChoHag | Well, yes. |
| 16:39.41 | morsing | Beer |
| 16:40.01 | morsing | ChoHag: IBM HyperVisor ftw |
| 16:40.57 | wethrin | morsing: That may be, but not everyone has AIX systems at home |
| 16:41.46 | morsing | wethrin: IBM HyperVisor ftw |
| 16:42.14 | wethrin | morsing: I don't see why that's relevant to me... |
| 16:42.28 | j0nr | is it normal behaviour for me to be able to log into my home directory remotely using winscp? |
| 16:42.37 | j0nr | i don't recall setting up the ability to do that... |
| 16:42.43 | wethrin | Yes |
| 16:42.52 | j0nr | my home directory could be open to anyone who knew my password |
| 16:42.58 | wethrin | Yes |
| 16:43.04 | j0nr | can i add a secondary password onto it? |
| 16:43.14 | wethrin | You have ssh running, yes? |
| 16:43.19 | j0nr | yes |
| 16:43.32 | wethrin | So why would a second password be of any use? |
| 16:43.41 | wethrin | If they knew your password, they could just log in |
| 16:43.48 | j0nr | true |
| 16:43.59 | antiphase | points at key-based authentication |
| 16:44.09 | j0nr | goes off to create a better password |
| 16:44.17 | antiphase | p4ssw0rd |
| 16:44.22 | wethrin | word. |
| 16:44.39 | kraptv | Free. |
| 16:45.23 | ChoHag | points at kerberos authentication |
| 16:46.33 | morsing | points at beer |
| 16:46.55 | ChoHag | You know, at least most people with a one-track mind are thinking about sex. |
| 16:48.55 | kraptv | kerberos. oh man. :-( |
| 16:49.08 | kraptv | I was lucky to avoid it! |
| 16:49.13 | kraptv | md5 in ldap! |
| 16:49.35 | ChoHag | Yeah that's what I'm migrating away from. |
| 16:49.44 | kraptv | moving away from md5 and to kerberos? |
| 16:50.00 | kraptv | or the other way around? |
| 16:50.48 | ChoHag | To kerberos. |
| 16:53.00 | z00dax | krb does work, once you have your phd in rocket science and krb integration sorted |
| 16:53.23 | ChoHag | Actually I found the core stuff fairly simple. |
| 16:53.25 | ChoHag | I think. |
| 16:53.51 | ChoHag | Now I just have to implement it on a clean network and see if it's as easy as I thought it was. |
| 16:55.01 | kraptv | ChoHag: are you doing this for NFSv4 integration, Active Directory integration, or ??? |
| 16:55.16 | ChoHag | Yes, yes and fun. |
| 16:55.18 | kraptv | just the fact you hate md5 and the cleanliness of RFC2307? |
| 16:55.40 | kraptv | admit it!! you just like three-headed doggies. |
| 16:55.56 | ChoHag | No. The fact that I already understood it and needed to learn something new and complicated. |
| 16:55.59 | ChoHag | I hate dogs. |
| 16:56.04 | ChoHag | They smell. |
| 16:56.15 | ChoHag | The heads == three mouths == smell more. |
| 16:56.54 | kraptv | yeah. so triple the dog-cheese scent! |
| 16:58.06 | z00dax | http://www.rsc.org/AboutUs/News/PressReleases/2008/ItalianJob.asp |
| 16:58.09 | z00dax | humm |
| 17:00.50 | ChoHag | [how] do I tell squid to use a socks parent proxy? |
| 17:00.56 | Stephmw | z00dax: not interested in taking part, but the answers should be interesting read |
| 17:01.00 | ChoHag | s/do/can/ |
| 17:01.20 | z00dax | Stephmw: indeed |
| 17:02.25 | j0nr | is this winscp access different to a normal ftp client? |
| 17:02.38 | ChoHag | It's encrypted. |
| 17:02.59 | j0nr | so to access via ftp i need to set up something else? |
| 17:03.33 | z00dax | unless you have something specific for ftp, use scp instead |
| 17:03.49 | j0nr | from a windows mobile device? |
| 17:04.08 | j0nr | i have an ftp program but not a scp one |
| 17:04.14 | z00dax | if there is a client.. |
| 17:04.25 | z00dax | does putty implement a scp client ? |
| 17:04.44 | ChoHag | pscp |
| 17:08.31 | j0nr | hmm will look it up |
| 17:10.11 | j0nr | ah...needs to be pocket pscp |
| 17:10.27 | ChoHag | Bah. Not having lo up screws things oddly. |
| 17:27.46 | j0nr | if i just install proftpd by default i can log into the root of my computer |
| 17:27.55 | j0nr | how can i restrict this to one directory |
| 17:28.39 | j0nr | shoot, i gotta go. |
| 17:47.59 | ChoHag | Bloody shitty stupid fucking dell. |
| 17:48.07 | wethrin | Tell us how you really feel |
| 17:48.21 | ChoHag | 5 bloody minutes waiting for grub to pop up then their stupid bloody java console didn't accept my kerboard input. |
| 17:48.40 | ChoHag | And it keeps stealing my bloody focus! |
| 17:49.36 | ChoHag | I'm going home. |
| 17:51.49 | wethrin | Mm, hometime. Good idea. |
| 17:56.39 | zaarg | sighs |
| 18:06.01 | morsing | Beer |
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| 18:49.00 | morsing | catalyst! |
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| 18:50.57 | i_am_a_troll | awaits :P |
| 18:51.05 | i_am_a_troll | or waits, even |
| 18:51.49 | catalyst | build a bridge over i_am_a_troll |
| 18:51.52 | catalyst | builds* |
| 18:52.00 | i_am_a_troll | hehe :P |
| 18:52.12 | i_am_a_troll | damnit, where's morsings auto greet script when you need it |
| 18:55.07 | i_am_a_troll | gives up |
| 18:55.16 | morsing | bilarh"! |
| 18:55.26 | bilarh | hehe biatch :P |
| 18:55.34 | bilarh | with a spelling mistake and all :P |
| 18:55.38 | morsing | Henrik! |
| 18:55.50 | morsing | sucks on bilarh! |
| 18:56.26 | bilarh | damnit, saab want you to have a master of engineering degree to work for them :( |
| 18:56.36 | morsing | lol :) |
| 18:56.48 | morsing | Even the canteen staff? |
| 18:57.27 | bilarh | yeah looks like it |
| 18:57.41 | bilarh | resigns to spending the rest of his days in england |
| 18:58.11 | morsing | lol :) |
| 18:58.27 | catalyst | is a MEng XD |
| 18:58.40 | catalyst | though I'm not certain the company I work for care |
| 19:00.44 | bilarh | maybe i could apply to be a cleaner or sometihng |
| 19:02.30 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 19:02.40 | morsing | bilarh: What without a degree? |
| 19:04.25 | bilarh | yeah, i'm hoping to get in on 10 years experience |
| 19:05.12 | morsing | lol - you're barely ten years old :D |
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| 19:37.53 | nixofortune | hi all |
| 19:41.03 | morsing | nixofortune! |
| 19:41.28 | nixofortune | morsing: ! |
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| 23:10.36 | morsing | http://www.bulitpruf.com/super.JPG |
| 23:27.44 | morsing | G'night |
