IRC log for #gllug on 20081202

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08:00.08j0nrgood moaning
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08:16.13morsingsabinef72!
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09:06.33ChoHagOur load balancer reports problems with the main website, but only between the hours of 1800 and 0800.
09:15.18morsingNicw
09:44.39ChoHagGiven the choice between Lotes and Exchange, I think I'd rather stab myself in the eye.
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09:56.16Nafallo✁☹
09:57.04antiphaseIsn't Unicode useful
10:07.53ChoHagThat looks like a key.
10:09.40NafalloChoHag: might want to magnify it then :-)
10:09.57NafalloChoHag: something like http://i.u2701u263b.eu/
10:10.44ChoHagI wonder if IE will cope with that...
10:18.17ChoHagDoes anyone know of any sites graphing house price trends over the past decade or so?
10:21.37Nafallo⌂
10:42.47kjsreturns from the dentist
10:43.39Provitoall white?
10:54.50morsingBeer
10:59.23morsingkjs!
11:14.21kjshows it going morsing
11:14.44morsingGood-ish :)
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11:27.05kjsgood news
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11:30.33morsingChoHag!
11:46.16ChoHagWindows losers are putting together an Exchange proposal.
11:46.29ChoHagIs it worth suggesting a Free alternative?
11:46.41ChoHagDo I really want to manage an email infrastructure?
11:47.13antiphaseYou don't want to try and replace Exchange with free stuff, because you can't and it will make you want to kill yourself
11:47.32ChoHagI don't.
11:47.33antiphaseThey have 15 years headstart on you in terms of integration
11:47.39ChoHagI want to replace Notes.
11:49.22halinotes is the only viable non-Windows option
11:49.29halithere is zimbra though
11:49.32halihowever good that is these days
11:51.37antiphaseIt still doesn't give you all the stuff Outlook and Exchange have when used together, because it's still just POP/IMAP with a crappy web interface for mail
11:52.15antiphaseIF you're going to do that, you might as well make it someone else's problem and farm it out to Google
11:54.54ChoHagThat's a point - I don't even know which of Notes' features I use.
11:54.58ChoHags/I/they/
11:55.16ChoHagAnd web interfaces all suck.
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12:42.11j0nrwhats the easiest way to allow one chosen directory to be available to ftp access from the internet?
12:42.58Nafalloinstall an ftp-server? :-)
12:43.10j0nryeah... i know
12:43.32j0nrim not too hot configuring them though
12:44.04j0nrlike if i just install proftp, as default i can log in to the root of my machine! i want to limit it to one user in one directory...
12:44.08j0nrtrying vsftp now
12:55.31halij0nr: you can set DefaultRoot ~ in proftpd.conf
12:55.54haliwhich chroots the user to his/hers home directory
12:59.24Nafalloj0nr: http://wooledge.org:8000/FtpMustDie
12:59.28Nafallosee that link as well ;-)
13:02.38antiphaseGay
13:03.00antiphaseWho's going to believe some fuckwit that can't even run HTTP on its native port?
13:03.26antiphaseor adhere to the de facto standard of using a www host for WWW service
13:04.43wethrinThere might be a good reason. Such as his ISP blocks port 80, and he's too cheap to buy a real host
13:04.44cpufreakbesides, how can you trust them its served over HTTPS, not HTTP. could be some one in the middle spoofing it
13:07.00morsingboudiccas!
13:09.38bilarhpeople
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13:11.41dick_turpinmwahaha
13:12.14wethrinhi dick_turpin
13:12.28dick_turpinwethrin: How are you?
13:12.32wethrindick_turpin: Are you in the West Midlands?
13:12.34wethrinI'm good
13:12.50dick_turpinYeah! are you up here or something?
13:13.01morsingdick_turpin!
13:13.05wethrinSpecifically, with a postcode of B, WS, WV, DY, or CV?
13:13.10wethrinSadly not
13:13.12dick_turpinmorsing: :-)
13:13.41dick_turpinwethrin: Rats! You could have come and belted me one or something
13:13.48wethrinNe'er mind, eh
13:14.04dick_turpinwethrin: Why did you ask?
13:14.20wethrinWell, I'm after a free diary from www.itssolutions.co.uk
13:14.28wethrinBut they only deliver to West Midlands
13:14.37dick_turpinwethrin: 1 sec looking
13:15.34dick_turpinwethrin: Do you want me to get one?
13:15.47wethrinYes, please. And send it on to me :)
13:16.19dick_turpinwethrin: OK seeing as you are my only pretend friend ;-)
13:16.23wethrinYay :)
13:16.32bilarhdick_turpin!!!
13:16.35bilarhwhat about me?
13:18.43halisup'
13:18.51dick_turpinwethrin: Done
13:19.22dick_turpinbilarh: Typical you never spoke to me yesterday now you want yet another free servicing
13:20.08wethrindick_turpin: Cheers!
13:20.18wethrinLet me know if/when it arrives, and I'll give you an address to pass it on to
13:20.36dick_turpinwethrin: If it turns up I'll get your address and send it to you
13:20.46dick_turpinrotflmao
13:21.17bilarhdick_turpin: i'm all take take take
13:22.05dick_turpinbilarh: I know but I still love you :-*
13:22.40dick_turpinwethrin: hey they do what we do (Don't say "Probably better")
13:23.29bilarhwhen i live in my massive mansion in sweden that i'll be buying for 5k GBP, you can come over for a weekend of much merriment
13:24.01dick_turpinbilarh: Cor that'd be great, is it cold there?
13:25.11bilarhonly in the freezer
13:25.13bilarhand outside
13:26.09wethrinhehe
13:26.47bilarhsadly it looks like i'd be making about 1k GBP per month after taxes, so i'm not moving yet
13:26.51bilarhoh
13:26.55bilarhand the county where i want to live
13:27.06bilarhi typed in "unix" into the job search engine
13:27.08bilarh0 hits
13:27.10dick_turpinwethrin: Ooh look "Client Portfolio" I'll track them down and nick them
13:27.16bilarhlinux had 4, all c programming jobs :D
13:31.08haliall at fortigate?
13:31.53bilarhnah ingate had a couple of programming jobs actually
13:31.53halii can't imagine moving back to that hole
13:32.02bilarhbut didn't mention linux
13:32.04haliah, i was thinking of ingate
13:32.31bilarhi don't know
13:32.35haliaren't all ingate product based on linux?
13:32.41bilarhyeah i think so
13:32.45halithey're big contributers to stuff like ipfilter
13:32.53bilarhtrue, the jobs suck, but it'd be a much better lifestyle i think
13:33.09halinorrlandsk hardhomo?
13:33.25bilarhknappast norrlandskt :P
13:33.39bilarh5 minute commute instead of 50 minutes
13:33.43bilarhcheaper commute
13:33.48bilarhmassive houses for cheap
13:33.54bilarhwith a novelty called 'insulation'
13:34.04haliyes that sucks over here
13:34.11halidrafts everywhere
13:34.58bilarhyeah totally
13:35.08bilarhi had to use sellotape on my window ffs to stop my curtains moving in the wind
13:36.00bilarhso anyway, for 871, i.e. what my rent here costs for a tiny 2 bed house in rubbish condition, i could have something with 5-6 rooms, huge kitchen, massive garage, an acre of forest full of deer and rabbits etc etc
13:36.06bilarhenough space for a small harem
13:36.14antiphaseAnd no job
13:36.55dick_turpinI thought you had a court order stateing you could not go within 3 miles of any rabbit?
13:37.06bilarhi could always just have hand jobs from the harem girls
13:37.19bilarhdick_turpin: that's only valid in england
13:37.44dick_turpinAh good point
13:37.47bilarhdick_turpin: it's a little known fact, that if you get a court order against proximity to sheep in wales, it doesn't apply in kent
13:38.07morsingBeer
13:38.15dick_turpinIts the goats I feel sorry for
13:38.36bilarhhehe
13:39.57bilarhoh and another thing
13:40.07bilarhchild care costs in england are like another mortgage
13:40.14bilarh900 quid *PER MONTH*
13:40.20bilarhhow the f does anyone afford that
13:40.21bilarh?
13:40.27bilarhno wonder all mums stay at home here
13:40.56dick_turpinbilarh: Leave em to fend for themselves at least thats what goes on in Harringay so I hear
13:42.56dick_turpinCourse up here we have them all working down the pit or in sweat shops from the age of 3
13:43.19bilarhby which time the oldest will have two siblings and be a grand parent
13:45.03dick_turpinOh god yeah, four girls who was/are in my girls class are now proud mums awaiting council houses
13:46.52morsingBeer
14:52.18bilarhjesus i'm so bored
14:54.55dick_turpinbilarh: Blimey you can generally entertain yourself, things must be bad
14:55.17bilarhi'm tired of being such a wanker :(
14:56.35dick_turpinbilarh: I'm bloody cold, they have the heating turned down to save money, idiots
14:57.27bilarhheh, nice
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15:01.14dick_turpinbilarh: I spy with my little eye something begining with W
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16:17.29j0nrhali: thanks, working now :) (although must be blocked from work, but can get to it on pocketpc) Nafallo: couldnt view that link
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16:34.37morsingibot change 95 eur to dkk
16:34.42morsingibot change 95 eur to dkr
16:34.51morsingibot change 95eur to dkk
16:35.08morsingibot ermmm
16:35.15morsingibot change 95 e  to dkk
16:35.24morsingibot change 95 euro to dkk
16:35.46morsingibot: You suck
16:35.47ibotand very well I might add
16:35.57boudiccaslol
16:36.25morsingboudiccas: Have you met ibot?
16:36.38boudiccasyou cant insult ibot with impunity :)
16:36.45boudiccasnot personally
16:37.02bilarhok i'm officially nuts
16:37.09bilarhi've bought a "new" turbo for the saab
16:37.12morsingsucks on bilarh's nuts
16:37.13boudiccasi doubt if ibot has any factoids about me, like it has for some others
16:37.19bilarhfrom a boat engnie :D
16:37.24cpufreakbilarh: the CSL is gone!
16:37.29bilarhcpufreak: damn, well done :D
16:37.32cpufreakthough the last drive in it was something special
16:37.33morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:37.38bilarhcpufreak: wanna buy a saab>? :D
16:37.41morsingibot boudiccas
16:37.42ibotsomebody said boudiccas was the former queen of the icini, or round and mild
16:37.49boudiccaslol
16:37.53morsingibot boudiccas also has no memory
16:37.54cpufreakcrossed the border into germany, hit de-resticted autobahn, and had a bit of a race with a 997
16:37.56boudiccasminimal factoids
16:37.59morsingibot boudiccas
16:37.59ibotboudiccas is probably the former queen of the icini, or round and mild
16:38.16cpufreakmy passenger, decided they needed a piss, so pulled into a rest stop... was just heading off again, and about to pull out of the rest stop
16:38.17bilarhcpufreak: did you get what you awnted for it in the end?
16:38.19boudiccasibot boudiccas
16:38.19ibotextra, extra, read all about it, boudiccas is the former queen of the icini, or round and mild
16:38.26morsingibot boudiccas also has no memory
16:38.31cpufreakwhen some pigs motioned for us to stop
16:38.37morsingibot boudiccas
16:38.37ibotfrom memory, boudiccas is the former queen of the icini, or round and mild
16:38.42morsingibot: You suck
16:38.43ibotand very well I might add
16:38.45cpufreakand they asked for driving licenses, and passports etc, and then searced my car
16:38.52morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:38.53cpufreakprobbaly as we just came out of holland, so they assumed drugs or sommat
16:39.09bilarhhrm, interesting
16:39.11cpufreakanyway, they found nothing wrong, so headed off, we followed on a couple of mins later
16:39.16bilarhhaven't had any run-ins with the p-o for ages
16:39.20morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:39.23cpufreakwas back doing 140mph or so, and then saw them again
16:39.27cpufreakso put my foot down :)
16:39.30bilarhstabs morsing in the face with a brkoen beer bottle
16:39.32cpufreakpassed them at about 170mph :D
16:39.38morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:39.38cpufreakit was kwality
16:39.44bilarhcpufreak: hehe :D
16:39.51morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:39.52cpufreakgermany is the best country in the world
16:40.08antiphasemorsing: JFGI FFS
16:40.13morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:40.16cpufreakand when I got to nurburg (where it was going to be serviced + prepped for sale)
16:40.22boudiccaschange the record morsing , you're repeating yourself
16:40.27cpufreakon the last roundabout I went round, I stuck the arse out for old times sake
16:40.33cpufreaksuch an epic car
16:40.37morsingboudiccas: bilarh is not very responsive, must be broken
16:40.41morsingbilarh: Where do I get a cheap Innovate G2 kit?
16:40.48boudiccastry asking ibot
16:41.45morsingflips_and_rails: There's something wrong with bilarh
16:42.05cpufreakbilarh: I'm getting 29K for it, plus 2K for the seats + cage
16:42.17bilarhnuts IMO :)
16:42.18cpufreaknot bad considering I paid 34K for it 2.5 years + 30,000 miles ago :)
16:42.30bilarhgood price for you
16:42.40cpufreakthough I probbaly have spent about 60K keeping it in tip top condition
16:43.06bilarhoh it's that time already :D
16:43.08bilarhsee you later people
16:43.12bilarhcpufreak: congrats on the sale :)
16:45.42flips_and_railsmorsing: don't bring me into it
16:45.53morsingflips_and_rails: ?
16:46.07flips_and_railsmorsing: something being wrong with bilarh
16:46.17morsingflips_and_rails: Why are you upset?
16:46.38Discordianmorsing is eliza
16:46.45flips_and_railsmorsing: is that "why, are you upset" or "why are you upset"?!
16:47.07morsingflips_and_rails: Are you boudiccas? I mean what I say
16:47.19flips_and_railsmorsing: tbh i'm just confused
16:47.44Discordianpresumably boudiccas is boudiccas
16:48.33flips_and_railsisn't sure
16:49.28boudiccasi am me and will remain so for a long period of time
16:51.08Discordianheh
16:51.37morsingAs usual everyone misunderstands the question but assuming it's incorrect....
16:52.20Discordiani believe boudiccas isn't boudicca
16:52.50Discordiansince if she was she'd be very very old
17:15.43j0nris ti possible to configure irssi to create a new window for all messages with hilighted text?
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20:03.41morsingkonadr!
20:03.44morsingrhowe!
20:03.56konadrmorsing!!!
20:03.58konadrgod its cold
20:04.09morsingis just back from tennis
20:05.03konadrhorray!
20:05.08konadrtoasty and warm i spose
20:05.33morsingCold and wet
20:06.15konadrnasty
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20:32.17morsingcatalyst!
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20:34.48morsingj0nr!
20:34.58j0nr:)
20:36.18morsingj0nr: What's for tea?
20:37.18j0nreating right now... spagetti on toast!
20:37.49morsing............
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20:38.46j0nrthat means the missis is away
20:41.34j0nrdoes anyone know if it is possible to set up irssi to post any hilight messages in a seperate window
20:41.57morsingj0nr: Away?
20:44.30j0nrwell i dont always remember to set that...
20:44.51j0nrit would just be nice to have a window dedicated to replicating any messages i have a hilight set on
20:45.48j0nralso its annoying if you are not looking at the screen for a while, so you dont know if you had a hilight in that window as its active...
20:46.17morsingj0nr: Oh yeah, I know what you mean
20:47.10morsinghttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80422521/
20:51.00j0nrHAHAHA!
20:51.05j0nrthats good
20:51.34j0nr:d
20:51.40j0nr:D even
20:54.01j0nrok say my name
20:54.03j0nrbitch
20:54.16j0nrj0nr
20:54.19j0nrbah
20:54.25morsingBeer
20:54.33j0nrthats not my name....
20:54.35j0nrthat not my name
20:54.40j0nrthats not my name
20:54.44j0nrthats not my.........name
20:55.41morsingibot reset j0nr
20:55.54j0nr:/ reset?
20:56.07j0nrdidnt bloosy work anyway
20:56.08morsingYou're spinning
20:56.12j0nrbloody
20:57.36j0nrhmm think it only works if it is a /msg...but thats not right as that opens a new window anyway
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21:00.32morsingcatalyst`!
21:07.55j0nrhow do i create a new window thats not a split of the current
21:07.56j0nr?
21:08.57morsing?
21:09.05j0nrin irssi
21:09.25morsingI've never seen split windows in irssi...
21:09.38j0nroh
21:09.45j0nrwell its annoying me
21:09.48j0nroh got it
21:10.14j0nrright can you say my name again please?
21:11.31z00daxj0nr: like this
21:11.47z00daxalso, remember to make windows sticky, otherwise they go all over the place
21:11.52z00daxwhen you swith
21:12.02j0nrperfect :)
21:12.11j0nrwhat do you mean sticky?
21:12.25morsingz00dax: Can't be done
21:12.39morsingj0nr: Sticky windows don't work in irssi
21:13.19z00daxthey works for me
21:13.20j0nrok well im not trying them
21:14.52morsingz00dax: How?
21:15.27morsingz00dax: We had a discussion here a while ago and you can't make windows sticky was the outcome
21:16.50morsingz00dax: You made himi leave now :(
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21:17.04morsingj0nr!
21:17.14j0nrhello again
21:17.17j0nrworks a charm
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21:17.57j0nrmorsing: if your interested i used this scripts: http://labs.quadpoint.org/irssi/hilightwin.pl
21:18.04j0nrscript*
21:18.14j0nrright must go...things to do...unfortunately
21:20.44morsingBye
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21:23.24morsingArmand!
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21:39.01morsingcatalyst!
22:16.06Armandmorsing!
22:16.23Armandsorry.. too tired for irc, I've been falling asleep here. :P
22:16.42morsing:(
22:18.11Armandgnites.
22:18.17morsingG'night
22:18.19morsing*kisS*
22:18.22Armand:)
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