IRC log for #gllug on 20081218

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07:53.04j0nr__morning all
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08:39.19ChoHaghttp://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050918
08:41.33ChoHagHmm 2005...
08:41.37ChoHagHow did that happen?
08:41.57morsingsabinef72!
08:41.59morsingBlapto!
08:42.03morsingj0nr!
08:42.04ChoHagIt's still funny though, even if it is 3 years old.
08:42.09morsingandronicus7_!
08:42.11morsingLeeds!
08:42.50Blaptomorsingthebot!
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09:13.46morsingkraptv!
09:24.11bilarhmorning folks
09:25.38morsingMorning
09:25.56morsingEven if it's barely morning anymore
09:29.57MohanMorning!
09:30.46morsingMohan!!!!
09:33.41Mohanhi morsing
09:34.02MohanIs it raining in your place ?
09:44.13morsingNo
09:49.13halimorning
10:05.14Copehali!
10:06.00Copehali: can you point me to something, or give me the benefit of your wisdom on best practices for oracle 10g on solaris 10?
10:09.51morsingCope!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:11.30cpufreakurgh
10:11.32cpufreakshitting cock.
10:11.42cpufreakDec 18 10:10:57 lid-gpfs-3 mmfs: Error=MMFS_FSSTRUCT, ID=0x94B1F045, Tag=5059771:   Invalid disk data structure.  Error code 108.   Volume joost                                                           . Sense Data
10:11.42cpufreakDec 18 10:10:57 lid-gpfs-3 mmfs: Error=MMFS_FSSTRUCT, ID=0x94B1F045, Tag=5059771:    6C 00 01 00 00 00 00 5D
10:11.42cpufreakDec 18 10:10:57 lid-gpfs-3 mmfs: Error=MMFS_FSSTRUCT, ID=0x94B1F045, Tag=5059771:    00 00 00 00 AC 7C D9 77
10:11.43cpufreaketc
10:15.47Copemorsing: good morning
10:18.01morsingCope: My god - you're speaking to me
10:18.19ChoHagI didn't know we had deity present.
10:18.28haliCope: it works realyl well, just make sure you use a resource project instead of fuffing about with /etc/system
10:19.39Copemorsing: of course - i like you!
10:19.57Copehali: am likely to use zfs & zfs boot
10:21.36Copelooks up resource projects
10:23.36Mohanwonders whats a resource project is ?
10:24.23CopeMohan: solaris 10 allows you to set a number of resources on a per project level
10:24.32Coperather  than system wide
10:25.04morsingCope: You're the only one! But thanks :)
10:25.10Copehugs morsing
10:25.17morsing:))
10:25.19CopeI'm very fond of you :)
10:25.20morsingnuzzles Cope
10:25.25morsingLikewise :)
10:26.00MohanCope: thanks, but where would you set it? can you please be specific with daemon/program name
10:26.43Mohani have used solaris x86 but i havent come across anything like that, is it specific to sparc architecture ?
10:26.46Copeno
10:27.02Copethe proj commands are what you want
10:27.13Mohanok
10:27.16Copeprojmod
10:27.21Copeprojadd
10:27.40Copeconfigured in /etc/project
10:28.07Copewell, managed with the tools, resulting in a config in /etc/project
10:28.15Mohanoh ok, am just looking into the docs. thanks for the info
10:28.20Copewelcome
10:28.26Copesolaris rocks
10:28.29Copeas does aix :)
10:28.48Mohani like smc in solaris
10:28.55Mohansmf
10:28.58Copehali: what's the current recommendation for shmmax?
10:44.41haliCope: depends on how much SGA you need in oracle and how much ram you have in the box, i'd say about 60% of RAM
10:44.46haliup to 16Gb or so
10:44.52halithen possibly a higher %
10:47.32Copebox has 8G of RAM
10:47.54Copei think default would herefore be 2, and I was going to set it to 4
10:47.59Copeis that ok for starters?
10:48.12bilarhantiphase: you'll be happy to know that i've decided to sell the saab after the scumball and get a bmw e30 for some tail out fun :)
10:48.28bilarha 325 or similar, hopefully the estate version
10:49.29antiphaseI suppose it's better than the herringmobile
10:49.37bilarhyeah :)
10:49.41bilarhshame the engine sucks :)
10:49.51bilarhmaybe i can megasquirt it
10:52.24ChoHagHow are such morons allowed to get jobs?
10:52.38bilarhchohag: oi :(
10:52.51ChoHagOpen a port so I can access Nagios from home over the VPN.
10:52.55ChoHagNote that - VPN, not Internet.
10:53.03ChoHagTwo weeks later it still doesn't work.
11:04.16gregjanyone has expierence with rhel4/centos4 interface aliases and configuration files ?
11:04.35wethrinz00dax is probably your best bet
11:04.37wethrinOr Cope
11:04.44gregjI need to be able to configure for intance ifcfg-eth2:0
11:05.01gregjthe problem I have is, that onboot flag there isn't used at all
11:05.16gregjso either have to remove the file, and recreate it, or do other sorts of hacks
11:05.46gregjI was wondering if someone konws how to do it by book (and oficial manual has no info on subject, other than noting that aliases are supported)
11:08.46gregjCope: any ideas ?
11:09.14Copegregj: /me reads
11:09.27wethrinHi Cope! How's life, etc.?
11:10.40morsingCope: How's William?
11:17.22Copegregj: i don't understand you problem
11:17.41Copejust make an /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth2:0 file
11:18.00Copealso move the gateway to /etc/sysconfig/network
11:18.15morsing:(
11:18.26Copewethrin: woo hello - all is well - i have a lovely tiny daughter
11:18.34Copemorsing: william is great - he was 5 last week!
11:18.34wethrinyay!
11:22.12gregjCope: my problem is -  igot that file
11:22.23gregjCope: and say I want to turn off alias for timebeing
11:22.29gregjCope: without need to remove the configuration file
11:22.32morsinggregj: Who's Igot?
11:22.34Coperight
11:22.45gregjCope: normaly I would just bring down eth0:0 for instance
11:22.51gregjbut after reboot it will comeback
11:22.58morsingCope: How's the Volvo?
11:22.59Copeahhh right
11:23.04Copemorsing: wonderful!
11:23.07gregjsetting ONBOOT=no will not help
11:24.09gregjI'm stuck,
11:24.58Copeok... you've veryified that onboot=no doesn't make a difference, wit a reboot, yes?
11:25.12Copeand you have multiple aliases on eth2?
11:25.20gregjneither with reboot nor service network restart
11:25.26gregjI am just trying one atm
11:25.33Copedo you need ipv6?
11:25.38gregjnope
11:25.56Copestick this in modprobe.conf
11:25.58Copealias net-pf-10 off
11:25.59Copealias ipv6 off
11:26.06Copethen try again
11:26.44gregjcurrently rebooting, I'll try in a sec
11:27.17morsingCope: Why did Blapto leave?
11:27.29Copehe uses ipv6
11:27.54Copegregj: you still have onboot=no, i take it
11:30.13gregjanother reboot, and will see
11:30.33gregjyes, I hadded aliases to modprobe.conf, onboot is set to no in ifcfg-eth2:0
11:30.38gregjand will see if it comes up this time
11:30.47gregjbut I would say, this is a major issue
11:32.03gregjCope: unfortunately that didn't help :/
11:32.10Copechange onboot to onparent
11:32.38Coperemembers this now
11:32.43Copelooks for range
11:32.49gregjonparent=no ?
11:34.05Copeyes
11:36.26gregjWORKED!
11:36.31gregjthanks Cope :]
11:36.36Copewelcome :D
11:37.00gregjthey should add that information to section about aliases
11:37.14Copefinds a centos 4 box
11:38.25wethringregj: You want free software to have documentation?
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11:38.36Copeit is documented
11:38.42Copegregj: rpm -q initscripts
11:40.23gregjinitscripts-7.93.13.EL-2.centos4
11:40.53CopeAlias specific items:
11:40.53Cope<PROTECTED>
11:40.53Cope<PROTECTED>
11:40.54Cope<PROTECTED>
11:40.54Cope<PROTECTED>
11:41.14Copefrom /usr/share/doc/initscripts-7.93.29.EL/sysconfig.txt
11:42.27gregjhttp://www.centos.org/docs/4/html/rhel-rg-en-4/s1-networkscripts-interfaces.html
11:42.34gregjno infoormation in alias section whatsoever
11:42.42Copeagreed
11:42.59Copebut you need to read in initscripts documentation to understand how all the sysconfig stuff works
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11:44.49mindbendrhi
11:45.58morsingmindbendr!
11:46.02morsingmindbendr: Cope's here!
11:47.53mindbendris it a good thing?
11:56.57ChoHagBoss: "LIA (oracle DB) failed and was restarted so look at the logs and see what MySQL command was running to cause the website to fail."
11:57.26ChoHagI think he's missed something...
11:57.49mindbendrhere is one from my company, this morning one server was down
11:58.21mindbendrwe found out that
11:58.28mindbendrthe guy updated the server `yum update`
11:58.30mindbendr`Sorry, My f*** fault!!! :(
11:58.31mindbendrI thought I was updating my machine, wrong window.  Apologies.`
11:58.42mindbendrso he did a kernel updated thinking that
11:58.46mindbendrhe was updating his own machine
12:00.28ChoHagIt's a good thing we're running suse then - it's too retarded for on-line updates.
12:00.42Copethat's why you exclude kernels in your yum config on servers
12:00.58ChoHagOr host your own internal repository.
12:01.07Copewell, both really
12:01.26mindbendrCope: well at least if you update the kernel and boot the server
12:01.32Copehosting your own internal repo won't prevent a fucktard updating it
12:01.37mindbendryou would check whether is the server running/booting
12:01.54Copei recommend sacking the fucktard
12:02.12ChoHagIf you have your own repository then the kernel will only be updated when you've finished testing it on the test machines and move the packages from the test to the lve repository.
12:02.23mindbendrlol who does have test machines
12:02.29ChoHagThen your servers automatically update themselves on whatever schedule they're programmed to.
12:02.30mindbendr`yum update fuckinall`
12:02.33ChoHagIronically, we do.
12:02.34mindbendrthat's what people do here
12:02.40ChoHagNot sure what they're used for.
12:02.50ChoHagI know test-oracle11 hosts the database for the phone system.
12:02.55CopeChoHag: that doesn't follow - but yes, if that's how you manage you internal repo
12:03.05Copelots of people just mirror the centos repo
12:03.08mindbendrinternal repo wouldn't be necessary i think
12:03.17mindbendrjust exclude the kernel etc and do it manually if it's necessary
12:03.24Copenods.
12:03.35ChoHagWell I've not actually implemented this system, but it works in my head!
12:03.44mindbendrrunning one of that redhat satellites would be nice though
12:03.48morsingmindbendr: Of course!!
12:03.49CopeChoHag: i've done that - works well
12:04.09ChoHagAlso, I wouldn't use an rpm-based distribution.
12:04.22Copemindbendr: z00dax and I have been playing with spacewalk this week - it's very good
12:04.38mindbendrCope: what's that
12:04.39Copewonders whether to rise to ChoHag's bait l)
12:04.49mindbendrrpm is ace
12:04.52ChoHagYou know you want to.
12:04.55Copemindbendr: its the system upon which RHN and satellite is built
12:05.03ChoHagThen somebody will start arguing and I can walk away, job done.
12:05.06mindbendrCope: sounds cool, I'll have a look
12:05.10Copegrins at ChoHag
12:05.13mindbendrdoes it support rpm?
12:05.17Copemindbendr: of course
12:05.32ChoHagIn other news, my laptop is electricuting me.
12:05.43ChoHags/i/o/
12:05.45mindbendrstrange that, it is hosted by redhat?
12:05.55ChoHags/o/e/?
12:05.59ChoHagSomething.
12:06.05wethrins/i/o/2
12:06.06Copemindbendr: not hosted no, its RHN, open-sourced
12:06.14mindbendrcool col
12:06.45mindbendrredhat is generous when it comes to these stuff
12:07.00Coperedhat++
12:08.11mindbendrCope: so what z00dax think about this, will there be a public satellite for CentOS :p
12:09.11Copemindbendr: certainly not in the near future
12:09.59mindbendrif i only i could get rid of fedora core3 server in our DMZ
12:10.17mindbendri can't type today
12:13.08mindbendrmorsing: what have you for the lunch today
12:19.32morsingmindbendr: Nowt so far - what should I get?
12:19.48Copemorsing: curry!
12:20.15morsingcurry--
12:20.25morsingmindbendr: Cope is the best
12:31.44mindbendrmorsing: why is he/she? the best?
12:32.12mindbendri will get crappy tesco sandwiches
12:33.58ChoHagWho was it decided not to timestamp everything that goes into catalina.out?
12:35.07mindbendrCope: is that true? are you the best?
12:35.49Copesmiles. I don't know!
12:35.58CopeI expect I am the best at something.
12:36.07mindbendryou must be
12:36.11mindbendrif morsing says so
12:36.22mindbendri'm just hoping in a good manner he meant
12:41.35morsingmindbendr: She?!
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13:10.07morsingdick_turpin!
13:10.11morsingdick_turpin: Cope's here!!
13:10.45dick_turpinmorsing: Oh god I cant cope. TaDa :-D
13:14.23Copegoes "bdm... tsh" as though underlining the wit of dick_turpin tremendously amusing bon mot.
13:15.21dick_turpinCope: Sorry mate couldn't resist, I will now go and stand in the corner and consider my actions for a while :-(
13:15.43ChoHagDo you want this pointed hat?
13:15.57morsingBeer
13:16.01morsingCope: Check it!
13:16.04Copegrins.
13:16.08dick_turpinChoHag: Yes please and can someone paint a circle on the floor too?
13:16.08Copemorsing: cock it!
13:16.13morsing!!
13:16.18morsingsucks on Cope
13:18.20ChoHagForget the corner, you two get a room.
13:19.15morsing!!
13:19.28morsingRight, need to go to town
13:19.44Copegoes to town on morsing's ass!
13:19.46Cope:P
13:19.55Copeit's a slow form of transport
13:28.33mindbendrmorsing: you know nowadays the usage of `he or she` increased for not being accused as sexist, thats why he/she?
13:29.50morsingmindbendr: Correct usage is 'he' as it is non-gender specific
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13:45.55morsingIs Russell Hobbs a good brand?
13:47.52morsingHello?
13:48.51boudiccashello morsing . yes, its a well known brand
13:49.27morsingboudiccas: Read my question again please
13:49.56mindbendrmorsing: seriously?
13:51.19boudiccasmorsing; read what i said, especially the third word
13:51.30morsingmindbendr: ermm... yes, it's a serious question. Espresso machine reduced from 80 to 32 at Tesco
13:51.53morsingboudiccas: You didn't answer my question
13:52.13boudiccasmorsing; yes, i did, in the third word :)
13:56.02Cope_morsing: i've had poor experiences of russel hobbs
13:59.47morsingboudiccas: Words can't be taken out of a sentence like that
13:59.54morsingCope_: Good to know
14:01.00boudiccasmorsing; its not being taken out of a sentence, the third word is answering your question, and the rest of the sentence is providing you with additional information
14:02.50mindbendrgeeky minds
14:03.07j0nreh?
14:03.23mindbendrmorsing: what she is saying is kinda RTFM
14:04.19mindbendryet if you don't understand it, first check the wiki and google
14:06.58morsingmindbendr: Idiot
14:07.47kjsyo
14:49.30ChoHagNotes is such a piece of crap.
14:50.45wethrinYes, it is
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14:56.06morsingYou can send emails when offline with Notes
14:56.59wethrinAny sensible mail server will queue mails
14:57.35boudiccasDiscordianUK!
14:58.03wethrinActually. Notes is not a bad simple database system
14:58.10morsingwethrin: I mean the client
14:58.17DiscordianUKhi boudiccas
14:58.31wethrinAnd it's useful for sending notifications betweent the database and the client
14:58.41wethrinIt does, however, suck for emails.
14:59.22DiscordianUKhow are things?
14:59.49morsingboudiccas: Hey - that's my line!
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15:50.33morsingAlex!
16:00.36Alexehlo
16:00.46morsingBeer
16:03.12ChoHag"It appears that that behaviour [repeatedly clicking the back button] can crash the site"
16:09.47mindbendrbye all
16:18.19morsingCope_?
16:25.31Cope_yes?
16:26.55morsingCope_: What kind of adapter do I need for a B&D HSS hole saw?
16:27.47Cope_HSC FCAL I expect
16:28.13morsingErmm...
16:29.02Cope_was yours a serious question?
16:29.08morsingYes
16:29.18Cope_what type of adaptor do you mean? to adapt what?
16:29.23morsingBut Googling your answer reveals that yours wasn't a serious answer
16:29.38Cope_no - sorry :)
16:29.41morsingTo adapt a drill chuck to a B&D hole saw
16:30.05Cope_gosh - i don#t know
16:30.08Cope_phone B&Q
16:30.47morsingI'll wander down to Homebase where I bought the hole saw
16:30.56morsingI strongly assume they have the adapter
16:33.28Cope_seems likely
16:35.04morsingwanders off to Homebase
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17:14.13morsingj0nr_!
18:02.53morsingCope_: Are you naked?
18:07.14Cope_no
18:07.20Cope_are you?
18:07.30Cope_it's much too cold for nakedness here.
18:08.03morsing:-/
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18:54.06boudiccasits not too cold here, but dark so you could run around naked if you wanted to. you could even emulate the rabbit caught in car headlights
18:55.05morsingemulates a rabbit
18:55.25boudiccasnah, theres no car headlights on you!!!
18:55.44DiscordianUKhaha
18:56.27DiscordianUKi need to go out
18:56.36boudiccastries to imagine morsing wearing car headlights, and fails miserably
19:19.24Cope_:)
19:26.46Mohananyone tested opensuse 11.1 ?
19:26.55morsingNo
19:27.52Mohanmorsing: whats you fav distro /
19:27.53Mohan?
19:28.02Cope_no - it was relased without any testing at all
19:28.12morsingWell, Debian but even that is less and less Unix like
19:29.07MohanCope_: In my experience opensuse was much stable than fedora with any new release
19:30.01Cope_Mohan: i wasn't being serous
19:30.16Mohani had a real bad experience with debian, its not for laptops though
19:30.16morsingCope!
19:30.32morsingDebian is the only decent distro left
19:30.43CopeMohan: i've run debian on lots of laptops :)
19:30.53CopeMohan: use centos :)
19:32.51Mohani tried installing debian etch in a laptop with nvidia graphics card, intel 3945abg wireless, broadcom44XX series ethernet, intel IHC8 Family audio card its a dell vostro1400
19:33.34Copeewww
19:33.42Mohanxserver failed with nvidia drivers, my ethernet didnt work, wireless didnt work, audio also didnt work
19:33.44Copei've had real problems with cheap dell laptops
19:33.49Copeon all sorts of distros
19:33.59Copethe better dell laptops have been great, though
19:34.12Copefinds these days for "just works" Ubuntu is hard to beat
19:34.45Mohanits a really decent configuration laptop intel core2duo 7500, 3gb ram, 128mb nvidia graphics and the rest above mentioned
19:35.00morsingCope: Is ten doughnuts in one day excess?
19:35.05Mohanits just the debian default install from a cd didnt detect properly
19:35.14Copegive ubuntu a try - but i've struggled with vostros
19:35.30Copemorsing: yeah - 5 is ok - 10 is gluttony
19:35.38morsingI better stop then
19:36.04Mohani tried fedora/ubuntu/suse in the same laptop and all of them worked smoothly
19:36.17Copecool!
19:36.34Copei've not used a fedora release since FC1
19:36.38Copehave run rawhide though
19:36.45Mohansince then i am trying to  avoid debian
19:36.45Copeit's exciting :)
19:37.39MohanCope: so whats your fav distro ?
19:38.01Copecentos, of course
19:38.12Mohando you use that in your laptop ?
19:38.13Copebut i find ubuntu useful
19:38.28Copeno - i use ubuntu on my laptop
19:38.44Copecentos on everything else
19:39.10Copemy partner, and her dad both use ubuntu too
19:39.53Mohansince my work place is dominated with centos/rhel i am bound to it.
19:39.54morsingSo do my parents
19:40.08Mohanso your the happy linux family ?
19:40.11Mohan:))
19:40.44morsingWe're the unhappy Linux family
19:40.56Mohanwhy is that?
19:41.26MohanCope: whats a rawhide ?
19:41.48CopeMohan: development release of fedora - like debian sid
19:42.01morsingMohan: Who are you asking?
19:42.19morsingAnd *what* are you asking?
19:42.55Mohanmorsing: I suppose you are the only one who said unhappy linux family
19:43.07Mohanso i asked why is that ?
19:43.18MohanCope: ok.
19:43.33morsingMohan: Mnay people have said stuff - I didn't know who you were talking to
19:43.34morsingAnd *what* are you asking?
19:43.48morsingThey use Linux because it's what suits them best
19:44.48Mohan< morsing> So do my parents, who were you talking to ?
19:44.57Mohanthats why i said happy linux family
19:45.06morsingCope: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluttony
19:45.17Mohanis that clear ?
19:45.45morsingNot quite... I'm guessing you're asking about the *unhappy* bit but it's still very unclear
19:46.35Mohanthats okie, leave it. not worthy to talk about.
19:46.40morsingIt's a long story - started back in the early eighties with my parents moving to an isolated town and my mum getting a depression lasting for decades. Also just my parents' personalities and insecurity
19:47.08morsingDo you want more details?
19:47.28Mohanmorsing: no thanks, but your story sounds so fake.
19:47.32Copehugs Mohan
19:47.36Copeerm morsing !
19:47.38Copesorry Mohan
19:47.39morsingMohan: You're a fucking asshole
19:47.43Copehugs morsing
19:47.47morsingCope: Thanks
19:47.58AndyMillarman-cuddles morsing
19:48.05morsingAndyMillar: Thanks
19:49.06Mohanmorsing: you okie ?
19:49.23morsingMohan: Not really
19:49.29morsingbut thanks for asking
19:50.40Mohanmorsing: i use to tell stories like this just for fun, i thought you are doing the same
19:50.45AndyMillardamn google :(
19:51.19Mohanif not sorry abt that.
19:51.30Mohananyways bye guys!.
19:51.38morsingMohan: I don't joke about something that has effectively ruined my life
19:51.42morsingMohan: Bye
20:03.32Copebye bye
20:03.40morsingBye
20:04.22Copenot me!
20:06.12morsingahh
20:09.52Copeibot 1lb in g
20:09.59Copebah
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22:02.39morsingwethrin: Where's Cope?
22:04.01wethrinHow should I know!?
22:04.11morsingwethrin: He's your best friend?
22:04.18wethrinum
22:05.21AndyMillarmorsing: they're getting married
22:07.58morsingAndyMillar: That's what I thought
22:10.26AndyMillar:)
22:55.34morsingwtf am I doing wrong here?!?!!?
22:55.35morsingmorsing@emil:~/irclogs/localhost$ grep beer *
22:55.35morsinggrep: invalid option -- t
22:55.39morsing???????????
22:55.48morsingI think it's time to call it a day!!
22:57.06antiphaseDo you have a file called -t?
22:57.40kjsevening
22:59.40morsingNo - but there are some odd files there, like -localhost and files beginning with & and #
23:00.48morsingkjs!
23:03.06kjsmorsing!
23:03.10kjshows it goign
23:03.12morsingCheese
23:03.12kjsgoing
23:03.15morsingGreat-ish
23:03.17morsingYou?
23:03.21kjsish?
23:03.25kjsnot to  bad
23:03.42morsingWell, great then :)
23:06.55morsingkjs: What's for suppeR?
23:16.53kjsfuck knows
23:17.11kjswas just thinking about food
23:17.19kjsmight get some special k
23:17.43morsingkjs: What's the music from the new iPod advert?
23:18.21kjsuhm...
23:18.42kjswhich ipod advert
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23:20.38morsingkjs: Ermm... The current one
23:20.46kjsfuck knows
23:20.51kjsgoogle the lyrics
23:21.43morsing*sigh*  Can be *very* difficult. And what lyrics? I can't make it out
23:22.02kjsiv not heard the advert
23:30.15morsingkjs: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vIqk9_Qk1Ek
23:42.25morsingkjs: ?
23:45.12kjsround the bend
23:45.20kjsby astroids
23:45.21morsingCool!
23:45.23morsing:)
23:45.35kjsmorsing: ut you knew that already...
23:46.02morsing??
23:46.12kjsor not?
23:49.09morsingHow would I? And why would I ask?!!?
23:49.13morsingFeck: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeTXwSfaF4&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

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