| 00:07.40 | gw280 | jumps on catalyst |
| 00:09.03 | wethrin | gw280! |
| 00:09.20 | [Discordian] | jim_bob! |
| 00:09.27 | [Discordian] | eddie! |
| 00:09.37 | wethrin | Rocky! |
| 00:10.29 | morsing | Fletch! |
| 00:10.56 | [Discordian] | it feels just like walton mountain, now |
| 00:11.44 | gw280 | throws wethrin at catalyst |
| 00:11.51 | wethrin | hey! |
| 00:11.56 | wethrin | You're not strong enough to lift me! |
| 00:12.29 | gw280 | throws catalyst at wethrin |
| 00:20.55 | j0nr | hey guys |
| 00:21.33 | j0nr | can i cleverly cp some files that are listed in a file that are also located in several subdirectories? |
| 00:24.26 | [Discordian] | how cleverly? |
| 00:25.00 | [Discordian] | and exactly what do you need? |
| 00:26.30 | wethrin | You will need a handy combination of read and find |
| 00:26.43 | [Discordian] | for file in `cat filelist` |
| 00:26.46 | [Discordian] | do |
| 00:27.49 | [Discordian] | find . -name $file -exec cp {} somedir/ \; |
| 00:27.53 | [Discordian] | done |
| 00:28.27 | [Discordian] | but it's gonna depend on exactly what you want |
| 00:28.43 | j0nr | ah now i nearly had that :) except I jus had for file in `filelist` not `cat filelist` |
| 00:29.09 | j0nr | also... (grimaces) i have spaces in filenames |
| 00:29.55 | j0nr | how does it know what file is in the cat of the text file? |
| 00:31.08 | [Discordian] | ahh you always have spaces in filenames |
| 00:31.13 | wethrin | ew, spaces. That'll cause a mess |
| 00:31.28 | j0nr | aye, not my fault...its the way it came |
| 00:31.57 | j0nr | is there a way to tell 'find' to find each file in the list? |
| 00:32.16 | j0nr | something like find -print0 | xargs -0 cp... |
| 00:32.19 | wethrin | Change IFS env. var.? |
| 00:33.21 | j0nr | should : for file in `cat filelist` do echo $file; done ... just echo the list? |
| 00:33.47 | [Discordian] | cat filelist will do that |
| 00:33.57 | j0nr | yeah i know, but should that work? |
| 00:34.07 | [Discordian] | you said subdirectories |
| 00:34.17 | [Discordian] | hence i said find |
| 00:34.35 | j0nr | yes i am kinda understanding the process |
| 00:34.50 | j0nr | just breaking it down |
| 00:35.07 | [Discordian] | is this a work thing? |
| 00:35.11 | j0nr | no |
| 00:36.03 | j0nr | basically i have 3 different album directories, and a list of songs from all 3 that the wife picked out... wanted to see if i could pick all the songs out of the different albums using the list i have |
| 00:36.25 | [Discordian] | hmm |
| 00:36.36 | j0nr | could have picked them all out by hand by now, but then i wouldnt have learnt anything :) |
| 00:36.41 | [Discordian] | fgrep might do that |
| 00:37.01 | j0nr | thats a new one... |
| 00:37.14 | [Discordian] | no it isn't |
| 00:37.17 | j0nr | to me |
| 00:37.37 | [Discordian] | it was in edition 6 in the early 70s |
| 00:38.47 | [Discordian] | grep -f filelist * |
| 00:39.07 | gw280 | throws beer at wethrin |
| 00:39.10 | gw280 | ignites it |
| 00:39.25 | j0nr | jus looking it up, thanks |
| 00:40.33 | j0nr | ls -R | fgrep -f filelist works! |
| 00:40.50 | wethrin | Beer doesn't contain enough ethanol to burn, FOO |
| 00:40.51 | j0nr | so can i add another pipe to cp them |
| 00:41.15 | [Discordian] | yeah |
| 00:42.18 | j0nr | | cp * destination/ / |
| 00:42.23 | j0nr | no second / |
| 00:42.28 | j0nr | ? |
| 00:42.52 | [Discordian] | you'd need xargs cp |
| 00:43.38 | j0nr | ... | xargs cp * destination/ ? |
| 00:44.02 | [Discordian] | err no |
| 00:44.31 | j0nr | heh |
| 00:45.29 | [Discordian] | think of ls -lR|fgrep as like find |
| 00:50.21 | j0nr | hmm |
| 00:50.37 | j0nr | xargs -0 for spaces... cp --target-directory |
| 00:50.57 | j0nr | but it just echo the list as one long string by the looks of it |
| 00:51.48 | [Discordian] | filenames with spaces are problematical |
| 00:52.27 | [Discordian] | a suggestion : re tag them with _ instead of space |
| 00:54.38 | j0nr | aye |
| 00:55.15 | j0nr | it is listing it like: file one\file two\file three\.....: file name too long |
| 00:55.29 | j0nr | damn spaces |
| 00:56.24 | j0nr | hey, thanks for your help again... i getta shoot |
| 00:56.35 | [Discordian] | good night |
| 00:56.54 | gw280 | attacks wethrin |
| 00:57.30 | gw280 | wethrin: just perusing through your photos. I think I like http://www.eco.li/photos/2006/06-24-Gllug/06-24-Gllug-Pages/Image22.shtml |
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| 07:24.56 | ChoHag | !rng pray E run |
| 08:09.16 | morsing | Beer |
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| 08:36.58 | cityLights3 | hi all |
| 08:37.11 | cityLights3 | does any one here uses bazaar? |
| 08:37.28 | cityLights3 | and or luanchpad.net? |
| 08:39.40 | morsing | cityLights3! |
| 08:42.42 | morsing | :( |
| 08:42.56 | morsing | Nafallo: Why did cityLights3 leave? |
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| 09:54.07 | Armand | Morning. :) |
| 09:56.55 | morsing | Armand! |
| 09:57.13 | Armand | morsing! |
| 09:57.14 | Armand | ^_^ |
| 09:57.25 | Armand | *bear-hugs* |
| 09:57.41 | morsing | *snuggle* |
| 09:58.47 | Armand | How are you today? |
| 10:10.48 | Armand | meh, CS:S time.. |
| 10:14.31 | Cope | waves |
| 10:25.25 | morsing | Cope!! |
| 10:25.54 | morsing | Armand: Not great - my epoxy bonding was drying over night and I just poked it and it fell off :( |
| 10:31.06 | morsing | Armand? |
| 10:43.15 | morsing | Cope: Where's Armand? |
| 10:59.32 | Cope | points. |
| 11:06.57 | morsing | is having a very exciting breakfast |
| 11:07.13 | Nafallo | morsing: why do you ask me? |
| 11:07.36 | morsing | Nafallo: You're his best friend |
| 11:11.24 | Nafallo | ? |
| 11:11.33 | Nafallo | why would I be... |
| 11:11.55 | morsing | Because he's a nice guy I assume? |
| 11:12.22 | Nafallo | morsing: stop taking drugs. they are not good for you. |
| 11:12.54 | morsing | Nafallo: Stop being so fucking boring, we're here to have fun |
| 11:14.20 | Nafallo | ... |
| 11:20.29 | Mohan | morning! |
| 11:21.41 | morsing | Mohan! |
| 11:22.06 | Mohan | morsing! |
| 11:22.52 | Mohan | why is the wireless light keeps blinking so fast, does anyone has this problem ? |
| 11:24.17 | morsing | Stop downloading so much porn |
| 11:25.03 | Mohan | its a intel3945 card after upgrade to suse11.1, though it works fine it keeps blinking like a police car lights. |
| 11:26.03 | Mohan | morsing: is it new technology to detect porn ? |
| 11:28.09 | Mohan | puts a black tape over wireless light to avoid getting noticed by others. |
| 12:01.52 | Armand | slaps morsing with a baby salmon |
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| 12:04.27 | morsing | jpds! |
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| 12:07.21 | kjs | Morning |
| 12:07.28 | Armand | catalyst! |
| 12:07.41 | catalyst | hey :) |
| 12:07.50 | Armand | ^_^ |
| 12:07.55 | kjs | has not slept yet |
| 12:09.06 | catalyst | hands kjs a mug of coffee |
| 12:09.25 | kjs | sips his tea |
| 12:12.11 | catalyst | apologises ;p |
| 12:22.26 | kjs | :) |
| 12:22.44 | kjs | maybe I should start drinking coffee |
| 12:26.13 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 12:26.23 | catalyst | morsing =) |
| 13:09.58 | Armand | needs a coffee.. |
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| 13:20.20 | cityLights3 | jpds: can you help me with launchpad? |
| 13:20.33 | cityLights3 | I can't manage to add a member to my project |
| 13:20.37 | morsing | cityLights3! |
| 13:20.46 | cityLights3 | morsing? |
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| 13:21.58 | cityLights3 | poping for a tea - be right back |
| 13:24.49 | Nafallo | cityLights3: #launchpad |
| 13:28.45 | cityLights3 | o thanks mate |
| 13:32.00 | morsing | Beer |
| 13:33.59 | Nafallo | ponders heading in to Canary Wharf and get some coffee |
| 13:35.03 | Nafallo | DOCKLANDS LIGHT RAILWAY: Saturday 20 December, suspended between Stratford and Lewisham |
| 13:35.06 | Nafallo | ha ha ha |
| 13:35.10 | Nafallo | not amused... |
| 13:48.54 | hali | Nafallo: i thought you were back in schveden |
| 13:49.02 | Nafallo | hali: got reverted. |
| 13:49.18 | Nafallo | hali: I re-booked them tickets for a weekend in January. |
| 13:49.38 | Nafallo | anyone want coffee in Canary Wharf? :-) |
| 13:50.06 | hali | just got back in, been to borugh market |
| 13:50.14 | hali | borough* |
| 13:50.22 | hali | bought some nice xmas treats |
| 13:50.27 | hali | to take back home |
| 13:50.36 | Nafallo | aha. so not planning to head out again soon then? ;-) |
| 13:51.18 | hali | nah |
| 13:51.37 | hali | beside they have ass rape my DLR access |
| 13:51.47 | hali | tower gateway is closed for refurbs until 2054 |
| 13:51.53 | Nafallo | ah. yea :-/ |
| 13:52.09 | Nafallo | bus to Limehouse and take the DLR from there. it's a pain :-/ |
| 13:52.44 | Nafallo | actually, with stratford - limehouse closed it would probably be easier to stay on the bloody bus ;) |
| 13:53.23 | hali | 5 mins walk |
| 13:55.14 | Nafallo | clears his bag of unnecessary work items |
| 13:55.53 | Nafallo | and since I'm a geek I'll keep the USB-RS232 and an unpacked null-modem in the bag ;-) |
| 13:56.22 | hali | those usb-rs232's never work properly |
| 13:56.26 | Nafallo | some things you just don't leave the house without :-P |
| 13:56.32 | hali | i keep a spare ibm t30 laptop just for the serial port |
| 13:56.34 | Nafallo | works on my system :-) |
| 13:56.43 | Nafallo | picked it up from Maplin. |
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| 14:58.28 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 17:10.30 | AndyMillar | ok |
| 17:10.36 | AndyMillar | someone fix facebook please |
| 17:11.48 | Armand | knifebricks farcebook |
| 17:14.30 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 17:14.44 | AndyMillar | their feed import shizle doesn't support https ! |
| 17:22.40 | wethrin | gw280: If you like that Gllug photo of mine - feel free to use it |
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| 18:39.51 | ChoHag | Apparentl $some-german-bank won't allow any wireless networks at their DR site. |
| 18:40.05 | ChoHag | Not won't allow their staff to use them, won't allow there to be any. |
| 18:40.24 | hali | most DC's prohibit any RF devices |
| 18:40.40 | hali | even mobile phones are often banned |
| 18:40.57 | ChoHag | It's not just a DC, it's a DC and office. |
| 18:41.25 | ChoHag | Dunno what they do about neighbours though. |
| 18:41.41 | hali | banks are usually not keen on running "anything" insecure |
| 18:41.52 | hali | wifi is always a risk |
| 18:42.02 | ChoHag | I think you misplaced your "'s. |
| 18:42.23 | hali | we have our wifi in a DMZ at work and people use VPN to connect to the main lan |
| 18:42.58 | ChoHag | wifi is no less secure than a terminated ethernet port in the floor. |
| 18:43.22 | ChoHag | Which is what I managed to get. |
| 18:43.23 | hali | of course it is |
| 18:43.36 | hali | as you don't even have to be in the building |
| 18:43.48 | morsing | Beer |
| 18:43.54 | hali | but sure.. proper NAC on floorports is nice |
| 18:44.09 | hali | our US office has got that, i can't be bothered implementing |
| 18:44.24 | hali | especially as we run so many os's etc |
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| 18:45.43 | Nafallo | I haz beer |
| 18:46.08 | morsing | konadr! |
| 18:46.13 | hali | i had burritos |
| 18:46.18 | konadr | morsing! |
| 19:22.53 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: 802.11x makes ethernet secure :) |
| 19:22.55 | AndyMillar | (ISH) |
| 19:23.56 | hali | 802.1x? |
| 19:24.08 | hali | nac |
| 19:24.16 | morsing | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVEtcTQWCc&NR=1 |
| 19:27.31 | Nafallo | hmm. 802.1x would be fun to play with :-) |
| 19:28.27 | hali | our US office use it, they require some fucked up little windows app to be running on all pc's... it does some audit to make sure anti virus is running and windows updates are installed |
| 19:32.25 | Nafallo | haha |
| 19:34.52 | morsing | ChoHag: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeTXwSfaF4 |
| 19:41.21 | AndyMillar | we're about to deploy it :) |
| 19:41.31 | morsing | AndyMillar: Beer? |
| 19:42.05 | AndyMillar | morsing: hungover :( |
| 19:44.08 | morsing | :( |
| 19:44.18 | morsing | AndyMillar: You shouldn't deploy beer then |
| 19:49.38 | AndyMillar | I shall not :( |
| 19:49.45 | AndyMillar | I wad deploying beer till 2am in Victoria |
| 19:51.04 | AndyMillar | was* |
| 19:55.59 | AndyMillar | cat /dev/pizza > /dev/AndyMillar & |
| 21:30.09 | hali | plays with Spotify |
| 21:30.20 | Nafallo | hehe |
| 21:30.34 | Nafallo | Swedish thing based in London server-wise ;-) |
| 21:31.08 | hali | yes |
| 21:31.20 | hali | noone wants to host kit in sweden any more |
| 21:31.26 | hali | $government pwns them all |
| 21:32.49 | hali | hm, deras servrar står i london |
| 21:32.50 | hali | snokar |
| 21:33.08 | hali | traceroute tells the truth! |
| 21:35.56 | hali | Nafallo: spotify:track:3MCAUFRKuEHmLe5e8ZzKhQ |
| 21:36.52 | Nafallo | hali: nej tack. jag har inte skiten. och jag vet exakt var de ar hostade ;-) |
| 21:37.29 | hali | was an old Charta 77 punk song :) |
| 21:38.28 | hali | loads of old swedish punk |
| 21:38.31 | hali | DLK |
| 21:38.37 | hali | Köttgrottorna |
| 21:38.47 | hali | (translation: The Meat cave) |
| 21:39.03 | Nafallo | ARGH. I didn't even think about it. damn Swedish :-P |
| 21:39.42 | hali | hohohohohockeyfrilla! |
| 21:40.04 | Nafallo | meeh. they haven't even got PI. |
| 21:40.25 | Nafallo | singlehosted o_O |
| 21:40.48 | hali | tripplefist |
| 21:41.00 | hali | AboveNet, Level3 and good ol' TeliaSonera |
| 21:41.18 | hali | plus some old manky Colt lines |
| 21:41.50 | Nafallo | hali: huh? |
| 21:41.55 | Nafallo | hali: oh. you're stuff. |
| 21:41.58 | morsing | Beer |
| 21:42.03 | Nafallo | your even |
| 21:42.09 | Nafallo | morsing: good point. |
| 21:42.25 | morsing | hali: Where's wethrin? |
| 21:42.25 | hali | yeah, my fancy little BGP setup |
| 21:42.55 | Nafallo | hali: no DH yet? |
| 21:45.26 | hali | is anyone actually using that? |
| 21:47.21 | hali | i don't even do full BGP |
| 21:47.29 | hali | heavy filters |
| 21:47.43 | hali | as my routers are too small and we don't actually have much throughput, just need redundancy |
| 21:52.41 | Nafallo | hali: they have over 500 ports lit in London... |
| 21:52.59 | Nafallo | well, probably not only London TBH |
| 21:53.00 | hali | ah DH as in datahop |
| 21:53.04 | Nafallo | in the company. |
| 21:53.09 | hali | hm, not yet |
| 21:53.22 | Nafallo | hehe. what did you think? :-) |
| 21:53.30 | hali | im well fed up with the sales guy in Bluesuqare who is supposed to give me pricing |
| 21:53.34 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 21:53.38 | AndyMillar | bluesquare suck :( |
| 21:53.38 | hali | i haven spoken to them directly yet |
| 21:53.41 | hali | in a while |
| 21:53.48 | Nafallo | hali: they are not available in BSQ |
| 21:53.55 | hali | Nafallo: yes they are |
| 21:53.55 | Nafallo | not as far as I know. |
| 21:54.12 | AndyMillar | datahop aren't i don't think |
| 21:54.20 | hali | it was the sales guy in maidenhead bluesquare who recommended them |
| 21:54.22 | AndyMillar | but thet'll vlan you at £6/mbit or so to where they are |
| 21:54.30 | hali | AndyMillar: tell me what to use instead then, needs to be 25 miles from interxion brick lane |
| 21:54.46 | hali | i happily pay 55 per mbit at the moment :) |
| 21:54.54 | AndyMillar | http://www.bluesquaredata.com/carriers.asp |
| 21:54.55 | ChoHag | Through some route or other, gnash (free flash player) depends on a spell checker, half of gnome, suspend-to-swap and some bits and pieces to manage graphics hardware. |
| 21:55.02 | AndyMillar | fyi |
| 21:55.32 | AndyMillar | hali: 25 miles from? that sounds like you're regulated by someone |
| 21:55.36 | morsing | Beer |
| 21:55.44 | hali | AndyMillar: as i said, the Bluesquare sales guy recommended we use datahop DC connections and ISP feeds |
| 21:55.55 | ChoHag | Also I think our SAN was installed by that spaghetti god. |
| 21:56.01 | ChoHag | Or at least one of its followers. |
| 21:56.03 | hali | AndyMillar: it's just in our client contract, we need DR 25 miles from the main site |
| 21:56.09 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 21:56.28 | hali | it's hard to find non-chip-shop DC's outside london |
| 21:56.32 | Nafallo | hali: probably VLAN'd to THE or so :-) |
| 21:56.40 | hali | Nafallo: they are on c4l so possibly |
| 21:56.43 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: or redbus sov |
| 21:56.56 | AndyMillar | and their comms rack there has the poundhost.com server in it \o/ |
| 21:57.00 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: I don't think so. |
| 21:57.08 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: did last time I was there |
| 21:57.19 | hali | anyway |
| 21:57.26 | Nafallo | hali: ehrm. who are on C4L? :-) |
| 21:57.38 | hali | Nafallo: connections4london, that joint fibre ring thingy |
| 21:57.48 | hali | a bunch of 10gig loops |
| 21:57.50 | AndyMillar | I'm trying to think where the hell else you can go "outside" London |
| 21:58.01 | Nafallo | hali: I know them, and I know they have quite some DH ports ;-) |
| 21:59.06 | hali | so any recommendations for far-away-dc's? |
| 21:59.07 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: hmm. but they come in from BSQ to THE right? then it could be VLAN'd wherever on the ring... |
| 21:59.14 | hali | i refuse to go anywhere near redbus |
| 21:59.26 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: they have a ring |
| 21:59.28 | Nafallo | hali: AMS? ;-) |
| 21:59.30 | AndyMillar | so thay might do both |
| 21:59.43 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: who have a ring? :-) |
| 21:59.44 | hali | Nafallo: sure, if the dc interconnects are cheap enough :-) |
| 21:59.49 | Nafallo | gets confused ;-) |
| 21:59.56 | hali | i don't mind going over to install some kit and a funny brownie |
| 22:00.01 | Nafallo | hali: DH in INX, DH in AMS :-) |
| 22:00.06 | AndyMillar | apparently THE and Hex |
| 22:00.16 | AndyMillar | is where bsq goes |
| 22:00.37 | AndyMillar | but they also vlan around to sov and mer |
| 22:00.40 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: hmm. Datahop are in both so... ;-) |
| 22:00.42 | hali | that sucks really |
| 22:00.49 | AndyMillar | aye |
| 22:01.11 | hali | to read all the fine prints in the contracts we have with out clients we have to survive a full north-of-the-river outage |
| 22:01.11 | AndyMillar | but it's still about £6/mbit to get from bluesquare to hex/the |
| 22:01.19 | Nafallo | hali: Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Paris. all three fits your distance requirement ;-) |
| 22:01.27 | AndyMillar | that's not such a bad idea :p |
| 22:01.33 | hali | so does birmingham |
| 22:01.45 | hali | i need to setup a box in Paris anyway sometime next yer |
| 22:01.47 | hali | year* |
| 22:01.58 | AndyMillar | hmm |
| 22:01.59 | Nafallo | hali: sure, I'm thinking about where DH have ports ;-) |
| 22:02.03 | AndyMillar | c4l have some "out of london" facilities |
| 22:02.43 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: since when did DH have ports out in europe? |
| 22:02.45 | AndyMillar | is clearly behind |
| 22:02.47 | hali | Nafallo: do you have a rough idea how much a 100mbit port between interxion and the dc they are in in paris would cost? |
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| 22:03.03 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: since ehrm... a year ago or so? :-) |
| 22:03.06 | AndyMillar | £75/port iirc |
| 22:03.10 | hali | London ports are usually about 150 quid |
| 22:03.11 | AndyMillar | unless they're doing special eurpoe proces |
| 22:03.12 | hali | gig ones |
| 22:03.18 | Nafallo | hali: the port cost. |
| 22:03.29 | AndyMillar | 100M is £75, GigE will be 145 then |
| 22:03.30 | hali | i presume ports in other countries cost more |
| 22:03.30 | Nafallo | hali: they do free backhaul on the VLAN. |
| 22:03.48 | AndyMillar | £175 :( |
| 22:04.20 | hali | just signed a 100mbit leased line to the office from the DC with f*cking BT |
| 22:04.44 | hali | 750 per month, 7k install |
| 22:04.44 | AndyMillar | 750/month aint bad |
| 22:05.01 | hali | we are in one of the best lit areas though |
| 22:05.08 | hali | pretty much around the corner from datahop |
| 22:05.12 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 22:05.28 | hali | plus we have two full muxes of colt crud so they wanted to be nice |
| 22:05.46 | hali | we got the line through packet exchange though |
| 22:05.47 | Nafallo | hali: DH popped INX in FRA if that could be interesting for the colocation negotiations ;-) |
| 22:06.01 | hali | not allowed :( |
| 22:06.05 | Nafallo | (Frankfurt) |
| 22:06.16 | hali | the DR DC must be with another company, in case they go bankrupt or something like taht |
| 22:06.29 | Nafallo | TH2 in Paris then? |
| 22:06.33 | hali | would work |
| 22:06.52 | hali | im gonna ask whats-his-face for costs for that 100mbit port actually |
| 22:06.54 | Nafallo | Nikhef or Sarah in AMS |
| 22:06.59 | AndyMillar | what's paris rackspace cost now a days? |
| 22:07.15 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: probably lots I'd guess :-) |
| 22:07.25 | Nafallo | if you want to have it cheap, go to AMS :-) |
| 22:07.40 | AndyMillar | how cheap? |
| 22:07.54 | hali | whats considered cheap these days? |
| 22:08.00 | hali | 1k for 20amps? |
| 22:08.03 | hali | GBP |
| 22:08.06 | Nafallo | haven't got exact figures, but cheaper than London apparently :-) |
| 22:08.23 | Nafallo | Paris was well expensive as well :-P |
| 22:08.27 | AndyMillar | I'd have gone with £800-1k for 10A to be "normalish" |
| 22:08.35 | Nafallo | but that's from a year ago. |
| 22:09.30 | hali | that sounds expensive'ish |
| 22:09.44 | hali | interxion is about £1400 per 22.4A rack |
| 22:09.48 | hali | 5kW |
| 22:10.15 | AndyMillar | really? |
| 22:10.21 | AndyMillar | that's pretty cheap iirc |
| 22:10.25 | hali | and it's a very good dc imo |
| 22:10.40 | AndyMillar | no, that's probably "about right" |
| 22:10.48 | AndyMillar | kicks brain into gear |
| 22:10.59 | hali | bluesquare is 900 for 16amp racks |
| 22:11.20 | hali | can probably get that cheaper |
| 22:11.26 | hali | i just asked for a quote for two racks |
| 22:11.33 | AndyMillar | really? Everything I've seen is 850/8A |
| 22:11.35 | AndyMillar | (in bsq) |
| 22:11.45 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:12.03 | hali | hm, i may remember wrong |
| 22:12.32 | AndyMillar | hmm, I may also be remembering rapidswitch pricing in bsq |
| 22:12.50 | AndyMillar | (which is actually 750/month for 8A, and 1150/month for 16A) |
| 22:13.05 | hali | we're high profile so often get discounts :-) |
| 22:13.07 | AndyMillar | and comes with 30mbit |
| 22:13.16 | hali | my 900 was without any connectivity |
| 22:13.20 | AndyMillar | we (company) gets the same \o/ |
| 22:13.47 | AndyMillar | mainly due to a big parent company :) |
| 22:13.55 | Nafallo | Nikhef :-) |
| 22:14.56 | hali | nikhef? |
| 22:15.06 | hali | cef power by nike? |
| 22:16.14 | Nafallo | http://www.nikhef.nl/id/ |
| 22:16.31 | hali | has anyone been the global switch 2 yet? |
| 22:16.49 | hali | looks well overdone and is insanly pricey |
| 22:17.15 | Nafallo | http://www.nikhef.nl/ams-ix/ |
| 22:17.29 | Nafallo | we're in GS2 |
| 22:18.07 | Nafallo | not sure about prices though, since we colo rather than taking half a floor ;-) |
| 22:18.28 | hali | i got a quote (well 3 years ago when they just opened), and all i remember is that it was hugely expensive and didn't really offer anything extr |
| 22:20.04 | Nafallo | what floor? |
| 22:20.37 | hali | no idea |
| 22:20.55 | hali | Nafallo: ams-ix... mmmmmm... all that weird porn going peering there :P |
| 22:21.06 | Nafallo | hehe |
| 22:21.28 | Nafallo | DH is in there, so can get a port from them and backhaul it :-) |
| 22:22.58 | Nafallo | 929.85GBP w/ 2KW |
| 22:23.01 | Nafallo | for a rack |
| 22:23.11 | Nafallo | http://www.nikhef.nl/ams-ix/fees.php |
| 22:26.12 | AndyMillar | we have shit in gs2 |
| 22:26.22 | AndyMillar | gs2's security is dire imo |
| 22:27.42 | AndyMillar | I've been in and around it with no ID being checked at all :) |
| 22:28.18 | hali | level3 is probably one of the best when it comes to that |
| 22:28.22 | hali | they are damn anal about stuff |
| 22:28.34 | hali | "sir please can you arrange for a new ID, you hair is shorter now" |
| 22:28.41 | hali | "piss the fuck off" |
| 22:28.51 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 22:29.19 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:29.40 | hali | is out of beer but is listen to Ebba Grön |
| 22:29.45 | hali | almost as good |
| 22:29.49 | hali | spotify has it all |
| 22:29.58 | hali | except Onkel Konkel, bit dissapointed |
| 22:30.42 | Nafallo | lol |
| 22:30.50 | Nafallo | I peer with you AndyMillar :-P |
| 22:30.55 | Nafallo | at least I think so |
| 22:30.58 | hali | so gay |
| 22:31.47 | hali | public peering on irc, get a room |
| 22:32.23 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: define "me" :p |
| 22:32.41 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: Berkeley IT :-) |
| 22:33.03 | AndyMillar | what AS are you? |
| 22:33.13 | Nafallo | 43099 :-) |
| 22:33.50 | *** join/#gllug DiscordianUK (n=clive@chills.demon.co.uk) |
| 22:33.57 | AndyMillar | hmm, when the hell did you peer with 35485? |
| 22:34.22 | Nafallo | MerieX ;-) |
| 22:34.27 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:34.43 | hali | hehe, got a coscomb peer |
| 22:34.48 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 22:34.59 | AndyMillar | doesn't everyone have goscomb as a peer now? |
| 22:35.14 | Nafallo | well, goscomb transit ;-) |
| 22:35.14 | hali | no |
| 22:35.33 | AndyMillar | he's getting around :p |
| 22:35.51 | hali | wtf is "Svenska Butiker AB"? |
| 22:35.58 | Nafallo | lol |
| 22:36.15 | Nafallo | that's the Swedish part of the network ;-) |
| 22:36.29 | hali | "here be polarbears" |
| 22:36.34 | Nafallo | well, they take transit I think? :-) |
| 22:37.37 | Nafallo | http://www.nordiskehandel.se/hem/ <-- looks like them :-) |
| 22:38.15 | Nafallo | japp. det ar dem ;-) |
| 22:38.21 | hali | i just saw them peering when looking at 43099 from my colobox |
| 22:38.27 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: I don't really work there any more tbh :) |
| 22:39.34 | Nafallo | hali: Svenska Butiker? |
| 22:39.38 | Nafallo | lol |
| 22:40.34 | hali | yes |
| 22:40.35 | hali | arse |
| 22:40.44 | hali | i just did an AS lookup of abovenets main as |
| 22:40.49 | hali | *scroll* *scoll* |
| 22:40.52 | Nafallo | LOL |
| 22:42.12 | hali | hm, my new AS is already announced by both l3 and abovenet :S |
| 22:42.19 | hali | i don't even have the routers installed |
| 22:42.33 | Nafallo | hmm |
| 22:42.51 | hali | anyway, not fussed... less effort for me |
| 22:42.57 | Nafallo | can't see you on AS44838? |
| 22:43.02 | hali | can you see 48591 |
| 22:43.25 | Nafallo | nafallo@wizard:~/devel/openwrt$ whois AS48591 |
| 22:43.25 | Nafallo | Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. |
| 22:44.18 | hali | i can whois it and even looking glas it |
| 22:44.24 | hali | i think package exchange must be doing something |
| 22:44.34 | hali | don't have a route to the new range though, so not annoucing that |
| 22:44.59 | Nafallo | there we go :-) |
| 22:45.09 | Nafallo | ripe have it |
| 22:45.14 | hali | probably your broken ubuntu box needs a newer version of whois |
| 22:45.30 | hali | ;) |
| 22:45.33 | hali | my centos box is fine |
| 22:46.45 | Nafallo | baah |
| 22:58.43 | Nafallo | baah. bed. gnight. |
| 23:00.28 | hali | nite |
| 23:01.15 | Nafallo | actually. I'll take that back. |
| 23:01.21 | Nafallo | some food and another ale :-) |
| 23:01.32 | Nafallo | and some Muay Thai videos :-) |
| 23:04.31 | hali | im still abusing spotify |
| 23:04.39 | hali | new Anna Ternheim album out |
| 23:14.17 | hali | spotify is fairly abusive |
| 23:14.29 | hali | it's using a lot of my bandwidth doing it's p2p thing |
| 23:14.34 | hali | and is using 1.2gb of disk so far |
| 23:14.46 | hali | default setting is that it keeps a cache of up to 10% of the c-drive size |