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01:08.01 | morsing | zx80user! |
01:08.03 | morsing | Leeds! |
01:08.06 | morsing | flips_and_rails! |
01:08.19 | zx80user | morsing! |
01:08.46 | zx80user | now 15 months since I last typed that ;-) |
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02:12.51 | morsing | Leeds! |
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07:52.38 | j0nr | morning |
07:57.53 | Leeds | anyone want to bet on the interest rate change today? |
07:58.08 | Leeds | Reuters are saying -0.5% expected, Sky are saying up to -1% |
07:58.32 | j0nr | -0.7865 |
07:58.56 | Leeds | if this goes on much longer, Barclays will be giving me money every month :-) |
08:07.32 | j0nr | barclays keep giving me money each month...shame it doesn't belong to me. |
08:22.44 | cpufreak | more reduction in interest rates? |
08:22.45 | cpufreak | idiots |
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08:56.09 | morsing | Mohan! |
08:56.12 | morsing | sabinef72! |
09:07.15 | kjs | Morning |
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09:09.10 | morsing | nixofortune! |
09:09.13 | morsing | Era! |
09:09.15 | nixofortune | hi! |
09:09.17 | morsing | kjs! |
09:15.24 | kjs | grr |
09:15.38 | kjs | traceroute is broken on this fedora box, not aure why |
09:20.51 | bilarh | i want one of these: http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=226754&C=Newsletter&U=09P01-4_N37GH&T=-11873266 |
09:20.57 | bilarh | usb microscope :D |
09:22.02 | morsing | Beer |
09:23.13 | bilarh | no, it's an 04:20 < bilarh> usb microscope :D |
09:23.30 | nixofortune | \quit |
09:23.36 | nixofortune | :) |
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09:41.08 | nixofortune | <PROTECTED> |
09:41.36 | j0nr | morsing! |
09:41.46 | j0nr | :( no j0nr! this morn |
09:42.12 | morsing | wtf?! |
09:42.21 | morsing | What am I doing wrong?! |
09:43.49 | morsing | Right, why was I no longer identified?! |
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09:46.06 | morsing | nixofortune! |
09:46.11 | morsing | j0nr! |
09:46.15 | j0nr | favouritsim |
09:46.21 | morsing | Beer |
09:46.32 | morsing | j0nr: Cawfy? |
09:46.35 | j0nr | s/favouritsim/favouritism/ |
09:46.42 | j0nr | thinks? |
09:47.08 | j0nr | morsing: no no no! TEA! |
09:47.13 | morsing | YUCK! |
09:47.18 | j0nr | lol |
09:48.11 | nixofortune | gastric acid |
09:48.20 | nixofortune | :) |
10:01.41 | morsing | Beer |
10:03.47 | nixofortune | morsing: i set up [msgs_window on] in irssi. it doesn't print messages but just active windows is it normal? |
10:04.40 | morsing | What's [msgs_window on]? |
10:05.29 | nixofortune | this is where all messages should go |
10:05.36 | morsing | Right... |
10:05.40 | morsing | What's messages? |
10:06.37 | nixofortune | but all i see just notice like [Act 2] means some one sene a messge to window 2 |
10:06.44 | morsing | Nice |
10:06.56 | nixofortune | but no actual message |
10:06.57 | morsing | Never heard of messages... |
10:08.51 | nixofortune | if i connected to 2 different channels i would like to be notified when new msg arrived |
10:09.24 | morsing | nixofortune: I don't get it... |
10:09.41 | morsing | nixofortune: When you get a message a number highlights in your status bar |
10:10.08 | nixofortune | i don't have it |
10:10.13 | morsing | ... |
10:10.30 | nixofortune | or wait |
10:11.03 | nixofortune | i saw it |
10:11.43 | nixofortune | maybe it's a private message window |
10:12.26 | nixofortune | need to read FAQ more carefully |
10:13.09 | nixofortune | morsing: did you send private message just now? |
10:14.07 | wethrin | Act: merely means there's been activity in the window |
10:14.19 | wethrin | On my colour scheme, there's three levels |
10:14.31 | wethrin | Light green/blue if it's just been a join or part |
10:14.39 | wethrin | Bold white if it's normal IRC conversation |
10:14.52 | wethrin | Bold purple if someone said something on my hilight list |
10:15.51 | nixofortune | wethrin: what the purpose of message window? |
10:17.07 | nixofortune | i thought it prints all the messages with window address |
10:17.37 | morsing | nixofortune: Yes I did |
10:17.54 | nixofortune | instead it prints just the address or a current window activity |
10:17.59 | wethrin | nixofortune: It's where people's private messages go, isn't it? |
10:18.09 | nixofortune | got it |
10:18.26 | nixofortune | thanks |
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10:22.10 | morsing | popey_! |
10:28.26 | morsing | popey! |
10:31.19 | j0nr | nixofortune: are you trying to set up a window that piles up all messages in your hilight list? |
10:31.43 | morsing | nixofortune: Will beer help? |
10:36.50 | nixofortune | j0nr: it would be nice to have one |
10:40.36 | j0nr | http://scripts.irssi.org/ |
10:40.57 | j0nr | scroll down to hilightwin.pl |
10:41.11 | j0nr | follow instructions top of page |
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10:55.47 | morsing | nixofortune! |
10:57.28 | morsing | _kinko! |
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11:12.27 | wiredfutureman | ola |
11:12.29 | morsing | wiredfutureman! |
11:12.40 | wiredfutureman | morsing! |
11:13.21 | j0nr | anyone know where i find (or create) ncftp's general.cf config file? |
11:14.36 | wiredfutureman | hi jonr |
11:14.50 | j0nr | hello |
11:14.59 | wiredfutureman | probably named general-example.cf or summin |
11:15.06 | wiredfutureman | sec |
11:15.17 | wiredfutureman | don't even know what ftp i'm running lol |
11:16.34 | wiredfutureman | ah vsftp |
11:17.40 | wiredfutureman | how did you install ncftp? |
11:17.52 | j0nr | sudo apt-get install ncftp |
11:18.01 | wiredfutureman | should be in /etc/ncftpd/ |
11:18.20 | wiredfutureman | as in: /etc/ncftpd/general.cf |
11:18.24 | j0nr | should be but the directory doesnt exist |
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11:32.16 | j0nr | mofo! that i did not mean to do! |
11:32.50 | morsing | j0nr! |
11:49.58 | nixofortune | j0nr: just notice perl script doesnt work |
11:50.37 | nixofortune | on "/load perl" have this "Error loading module perl/core: /usr/local/lib/irssi/modules/libperl_core.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
11:51.20 | morsing | kinko! |
11:52.52 | j0nr | nixofortune: oh... i don't know what that means sorry |
11:53.46 | wethrin | It means it can't find the file |
11:53.58 | wethrin | Probably it's not put the .so file in /usr/local/lib |
11:58.33 | nixofortune | maybe i compiled it wrong? |
12:03.34 | bilarh | all time low interest rate of 1.5% |
12:03.39 | wethrin | yep |
12:03.56 | wethrin | all the lucky people on tracker mortgages |
12:04.10 | bilarh | except if you haven't got a collar, of course :) |
12:04.26 | wethrin | mm |
12:07.03 | wethrin | So don't spend your mortgage saving all at once |
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12:49.56 | z00dax | dont most companies have a limit on the tracker as well ? something like they wont go lower than 2% |
12:50.17 | wethrin | A number of banks do. Some don't. |
12:50.35 | wethrin | From what people have been saying, it appears that A&L don't have a cap |
12:52.47 | dick_turpin | Nationwide need putting out of business, money grabbing pigs! they refuse to pass on the rate |
12:53.10 | wethrin | Eh. They're still better than banks |
12:53.49 | dick_turpin | Abbey has been pretty good for me so far my rate has been dropping nicely |
12:56.17 | j0nr | if i have access to 2 different servers via ftp, is it possible to transfer files direct from one to the other? |
12:57.42 | wethrin | HA. In theory, yes, the protocol is designed to be able to do that |
12:58.26 | wethrin | In practice.......good luck |
12:59.59 | j0nr | should i not bother |
13:00.03 | j0nr | ? |
13:00.36 | j0nr | i need to transfer ~1GB and would think it better to go direct rather than download it locally and then upload to the other |
13:01.05 | wethrin | Log in to the remote system |
13:06.17 | antiphase | Get a faster internet connection |
13:06.28 | antiphase | 1GB only takes half a minute to move if you have one :P |
13:06.37 | wethrin | Sure, and it'll cost a fuckload :) |
13:07.00 | antiphase | You get what you pay for :) |
13:07.08 | wethrin | heh |
13:07.14 | wethrin | You're not paying personally for it, are you? |
13:07.29 | cpufreak | j0nr: use an FXP capaable client |
13:07.34 | cpufreak | and you should be alright |
13:07.45 | antiphase | Only n00bs pay for their Internets |
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13:08.23 | wethrin | pah. Or those who don't work in a place that pays for their home intertube |
13:08.51 | dick_turpin | wethrin: :-) |
13:08.54 | antiphase | I get round it by not leaving the office |
13:09.42 | wethrin | heh |
13:10.22 | j0nr | antiphase:my broadband is slow for upload |
13:10.46 | j0nr | cpufreak: ta |
13:12.37 | cpufreak | j0nr: then your broadband isn't broad. |
13:13.01 | cpufreak | decides to move some files about at 800MBytes/sec because he can |
13:13.52 | wethrin | Pah |
13:14.24 | antiphase | OMG that's like a CD in one second!!!!11eleven |
13:18.41 | cpufreak | :] |
13:18.57 | z00dax | antiphase: I think your shift key broke there down the right side |
13:19.55 | morsing | Leeds! |
13:19.59 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
13:25.34 | morsing | Beer |
14:05.26 | kjs | jesus |
14:05.28 | kjs | that was hell |
14:05.43 | kjs | i forgot how bad outlook really is |
14:14.18 | j0nr | anyone use lftp? |
14:19.36 | antiphase | More like "Does anyone use FTP at all these days?" |
14:19.47 | j0nr | why? |
14:20.17 | antiphase | No encryption, often fails to work with NAT, general pain in the arse |
14:20.33 | j0nr | what do you use instead? |
14:20.39 | wethrin | scp |
14:20.41 | wethrin | or sftp |
14:20.42 | antiphase | scp or rsync-over-ssh |
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14:46.36 | bilarh | j0nr: lftp, yes? |
14:46.49 | bilarh | i can't remember how to use it, though :D |
14:47.01 | bilarh | apart from the fact that it seemed very scriptable and nice at the time |
14:47.09 | bilarh | and supports all manner of proxies which is really handy |
14:48.09 | bilarh | specifically, it does FTP over HTTP proxy, which was really handy at the time |
14:50.36 | j0nr | i was just having problems doing a 'ls' seemed to take forever as if it was stuck, then all of a sudden it came thru |
14:51.13 | bilarh | frmo the manual: Every operation in lftp is reliable, that is any not fatal error is ignored and the operation is repeated. So if down- loading breaks, it will be restarted from the point automat- ically. Even if ftp server does not support REST command, lftp will try to retrieve the file from the very beginning until the file is transferred completely. |
14:51.38 | bilarh | i'm guessing it did something similar for your ls there |
14:54.08 | Leeds | wethrin: ping? |
14:54.41 | wethrin | Leeds: pong |
14:54.55 | Leeds | sorry, was going to ask you about FOSDEM for Niv |
14:55.05 | wethrin | I'm goingto Fosdem |
14:56.40 | Leeds | he asked me what a room was likely to cost |
14:57.15 | wethrin | I think it's about 20 EUR a night in the youth hostel |
15:13.17 | Mohan | morsing! |
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15:16.41 | cityLightss | hi, did anyone here actually got samba to work with active directory? |
15:17.14 | cityLightss | I mean add a linux server to a windwos domain, and have users open files on the storage with their own privladges? |
15:17.31 | cityLightss | using kerberos and such |
15:18.47 | boudiccas | cityLightss; what distro? |
15:18.59 | cityLightss | gentoo |
15:19.07 | cityLightss | but the config is the same |
15:19.08 | boudiccas | cityLightss; its just that i like to know what distros people are using |
15:19.24 | cityLightss | I read7 offical guides fpr samba |
15:21.00 | Mohan | cityLightss: and what is the issue you have now ? |
15:21.04 | cityLightss | I can read the user list on the storage server using windbind , but can't access it with a windows account |
15:22.32 | cityLightss | q1. at /etc/samba/smb.conf what do you have at the security = ? |
15:22.35 | cityLightss | I used ADS |
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15:25.15 | bilarh | citylights: i have security=domain |
15:25.27 | bilarh | having said that, i don't think my setup does what you awnt it to do |
15:25.41 | Mohan | http://howtoforge.org/samba_ads_security_mode |
15:25.41 | bilarh | we have a bunch of unix shares served through samba |
15:25.49 | bilarh | with windows authentication |
15:25.59 | bilarh | but it's still the permissions of the unix files that are exported |
15:26.11 | bilarh | and all our windows users also have a unix username (not the same one, necessarily) |
15:26.15 | Mohan | may be you can find what you are looking for. |
15:27.22 | bilarh | citylightss: when you say "their own privileges", what do you actually mean? |
15:28.17 | cityLightss | bilarh: I mean that the users are not in the linux /etc/passwd file |
15:28.30 | bilarh | ah ok, that's a royal pain in the arse |
15:28.35 | bilarh | i had it working on a test setup years ago |
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15:28.42 | bilarh | but it kept hanging the machine (!) |
15:29.09 | bilarh | and it was most painful to do anything on it if you had winbind in /etc/nsswitch.conf |
15:29.14 | cityLightss | their login and password comes from active directory and after they write a file I would see they own the file with their login |
15:29.27 | bilarh | but only in samba, right |
15:29.41 | cityLightss | right |
15:30.02 | bilarh | it can be done with that pseudo windows-id to unix-uid mapping stuff |
15:30.11 | cityLightss | right I got winbind at my /etc/nsswitch.conf |
15:30.22 | bilarh | but unfortunately all i can remember is that it was painful and sucked at the time so i didn't use it :) |
15:30.32 | cityLightss | bilarh: pseudo windows-id ? |
15:30.50 | bilarh | i'm wondering if you even need winbind in nsswitch.conf if you don't care about ownership of files in linux |
15:31.05 | bilarh | sorry, that should read: pseudo "windows-id to unix-uid" mapping |
15:31.27 | bilarh | don't worry, you get used to my bad punctuation after a while ;-) |
15:31.31 | cityLightss | yes bilarh , this is what I want |
15:31.51 | bilarh | so what's not working then? |
15:32.09 | cityLightss | I can't log on to the share using a windows login |
15:32.19 | bilarh | ah |
15:32.26 | bilarh | you joined the domain OK? |
15:32.29 | antiphase | The obvious solution is not to use Windoze |
15:32.32 | bilarh | with the samba server, i mean |
15:32.47 | bilarh | well, actually, the obvious solution IMO is to use windows to serve windows files, but i digress :) |
15:35.01 | bilarh | ffs :) |
15:35.06 | bilarh | some people |
15:36.03 | antiphase | Epic n00b spongers |
15:36.22 | DiscordianUK | lol |
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15:38.33 | cityLightss | sorry this was a windows crash |
15:38.37 | cityLightss | what did I miss? |
15:38.40 | bilarh | :D |
15:38.45 | bilarh | not a lot really :) |
15:38.53 | bilarh | yeah so you joined the domain ok in samba? |
15:39.05 | cityLightss | yes I did |
15:39.34 | bilarh | ok and you have winbind running? |
15:39.49 | cityLightss | yes |
15:39.50 | bilarh | iirc it wasn't started by the normal /etc/init.d/smbd script |
15:39.51 | bilarh | ok |
15:41.13 | bilarh | hrm, do the logs contain anything obvious? |
15:41.45 | cityLightss | not when I looked |
15:41.53 | cityLightss | but I am now tring to see it again |
15:41.56 | bilarh | did you enable debugging? |
15:41.58 | cityLightss | hold on |
15:42.00 | bilarh | as in crank the log level up a bit |
15:42.00 | cityLightss | yes |
15:43.12 | bilarh | so when you browse to the server from your windows machine, does it show you the shares immediately? |
15:43.24 | cityLightss | min |
15:43.32 | bilarh | as in, can you see a list of shares, or does it ask you for your username/password immediately? |
15:43.48 | morsing | cityLightss! |
15:44.53 | morsing | cityLightss! |
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15:45.08 | bilarh | morsing: for crying out load, sort your greeting script out |
15:45.19 | morsing | kraptv! |
15:47.38 | cityLightss | oh,,, now I got a test user to see |
15:48.59 | cityLightss | ok, its like this: |
15:49.29 | cityLightss | when I type in the url for the share I am greated with a user name and password window |
15:49.43 | bilarh | aha |
15:49.45 | cityLightss | but when I put them - I am asked to enter it again |
15:49.53 | bilarh | that's because they fail |
15:49.58 | cityLightss | so I am not authonticated |
15:50.13 | bilarh | the fact that it's asking for username / password in my experience is down to the domain membership of the samba server |
15:50.33 | bilarh | have you got a user who has the same username on both linux and windows? |
15:50.42 | bilarh | if so, can you connect with that? |
15:51.33 | cityLightss | I got a user with the same login on both - doesnt work |
15:52.17 | Mohan | grub password error, it fails always no matter how many times i rest it :( |
15:52.25 | Mohan | reset |
15:52.50 | cityLightss | ll |
15:52.58 | cityLightss | <PROTECTED> |
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15:59.38 | morsing | Fkz82^! |
16:10.30 | bilarh | citylights: hmm, problem is that can mean anything |
16:10.51 | bilarh | what does your share definition look like? |
16:13.15 | cityLightss | sorry bilarh, but I am off this for now |
16:13.18 | cityLightss | thanks |
16:13.23 | bilarh | no probs |
16:51.01 | inDj_InstcT | hi all - can you pay monthly for business hosting with ukfsn? |
16:51.18 | inDj_InstcT | I see DD on the info page :) |
16:51.37 | wethrin | suggests jason@ukfsn.org would be the correct person to ask |
16:51.39 | antiphase | As an ISP, I suspect they have an "email address" |
16:59.33 | inDj_InstcT | thx - will email them - was on phone recommending them and they asked and I wasn't 100% :) |
16:59.57 | inDj_InstcT | told them will get back to them |
17:00.32 | DiscordianUK | lols at the mentiion of Jason |
17:01.00 | DiscordianUK | I still have a Definite Linux shoulder bag somewhere |
17:01.06 | DiscordianUK | s/ii/i/ |
17:03.56 | cityLightss | bilarh: I think it works....! |
17:20.01 | morsing | antiphase: What's for tea? |
17:24.50 | antiphase | Your momma's beef curtains |
17:49.57 | kjs | Humm might have to swap ISP's need a decent low latency ISP (for gaming and VoIP), with decent download caps, I hear good things about aaisp but their download limites are a joke. |
17:50.01 | kjs | 1GB |
17:55.45 | wethrin | Only during office horus |
17:55.46 | wethrin | *hours |
17:55.50 | wethrin | And that's the cheapest option |
17:55.58 | wethrin | They'll give you more bandwidth if you pay for it |
17:59.09 | kjs | yeah up to 8gb... |
17:59.58 | wethrin | Do you play games during office hours? |
18:00.05 | kjs | wethrin: does not tell me what upload or download speeds i have either? |
18:00.17 | wethrin | It's ADSL Max. So up to 8Mbit |
18:00.29 | kjs | wethrin: no but i download linux iso's services packs use voip and email. |
18:00.37 | kjs | 832kb upload? |
18:00.44 | wethrin | Email isn't large bandwidth |
18:00.54 | wethrin | Can you not download theISOs at night? |
18:01.19 | kjs | for the most part id imagen I can |
18:01.37 | kjs | yum updates for fedora are quite large i guess i can do it all after 6pm. |
18:02.44 | kjs | wethrin: i presume you use them? |
18:02.48 | wethrin | I do |
18:02.56 | kjs | good service? |
18:03.24 | wethrin | I have no complaints |
18:03.43 | wethrin | Initially, the modem they gave me was rubbish and kept reconnecting, but that settled down |
18:04.21 | kjs | wethrin: any idea what upload speed pro is |
18:04.44 | kjs | out of interest what tarrif are you on? |
18:07.13 | wethrin | I'm on the 1GB/month |
18:07.21 | wethrin | I don't know what the upload speed is |
18:10.00 | kjs | ah'k |
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