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| 07:06.14 | morsing | Morning |
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| 07:44.12 | morsing | ChoHag! |
| 07:44.20 | morsing | ChoHag: Logged in ok this morning? |
| 07:52.44 | morsing | kraptv: Where did ChoHag go? |
| 08:54.52 | j0nr | morning morning |
| 08:55.50 | morsing | j0nr! |
| 08:58.08 | Mohan | morning! |
| 08:58.11 | morsing | Mohan! |
| 08:58.22 | Mohan | morsing! |
| 09:01.05 | morsing | OMG - I just realised when you click on a photo in Firefox for full-size it centers on the point you clicked! |
| 09:05.26 | morsing | Mohan? |
| 09:06.15 | morsing | j0nr? |
| 09:11.02 | morsing | sabinef72: Where's j0nr? |
| 09:16.52 | j0nr | morsing: you're just a robot aren't you |
| 09:17.05 | morsing | Beer |
| 09:17.16 | morsing | j0nr: Aren't you happy for me? |
| 09:17.28 | j0nr | morsing: do you dream |
| 09:17.29 | j0nr | ? |
| 09:17.32 | morsing | Yes |
| 09:17.41 | morsing | Had a dream about Helen last night |
| 09:17.47 | j0nr | Helen? |
| 09:17.53 | j0nr | Is she a robot? |
| 09:17.55 | morsing | No |
| 09:18.02 | morsing | Doesn't feel like one anyway |
| 09:18.12 | j0nr | In reality or in your dream? |
| 09:18.18 | morsing | In reality |
| 09:19.50 | morsing | j0nr: What's for breakfast? |
| 09:20.54 | morsing | Mohan: Where's j0nr? |
| 09:22.17 | morsing | wethrin: ping |
| 09:22.25 | wethrin | pong |
| 09:23.43 | morsing | wethrin!! |
| 09:23.46 | morsing | *kiss* :) |
| 09:23.58 | wethrin | gah |
| 09:24.02 | morsing | hag? |
| 09:28.38 | Mohan | what would happen if you pay a credit card bill the next day after due date ? |
| 09:28.49 | j0nr | morsing: no breakfast |
| 09:28.55 | Mohan | would they be charging extra ? |
| 09:29.24 | wethrin | In theory, yes |
| 09:29.41 | wethrin | In practice, they might just wave it if it's your first offence |
| 09:29.53 | wethrin | This is why I pay my cards by direct debit each month |
| 09:29.56 | Mohan | but what if i paid at the 23.59 of yesterday |
| 09:30.15 | Mohan | it would still be cleared only today morning |
| 09:30.25 | wethrin | Probably wouldn't have arrived into your card account straight away |
| 09:30.39 | Mohan | so making a payment today morning does the same |
| 09:31.16 | Mohan | its the same bank and its a direct bank transfer and they claim that the credit would relfect in 2 hours. |
| 09:31.19 | wethrin | Depends when they do their batch jobs |
| 09:31.33 | wethrin | oh ,maybe. See what happens on your next statement |
| 09:32.09 | morsing | Mohan: They will. They can't wave at anyone, it's automated |
| 09:32.39 | Mohan | i think credit card payments are cleared manually |
| 09:33.42 | Mohan | and the sad part is, it reflects in the credit report as well with a payment made default. |
| 09:34.18 | wethrin | Eh. If it's the first time it's happened, I wouldn't bother about it |
| 09:34.25 | morsing | Mohan: Ermm... Well, no wonder the banks are going down then, if they haven't even discovered computers |
| 09:34.44 | morsing | Mohan: It doesn't affect your credit rating for a one-off |
| 09:34.47 | wethrin | It might take them an extra few months to whack another £500 on your credit card limit.... |
| 09:35.06 | wethrin | And if it's happened more often, it's a sign to set up a direct debit |
| 09:36.38 | Mohan | banks make thier profit with the minimum payment and i simply hate it. |
| 09:36.56 | wethrin | So pay the full amount |
| 09:36.58 | wethrin | It's what I do |
| 09:36.59 | morsing | Errmmm... What?! |
| 09:37.13 | Mohan | i always did that. |
| 09:37.34 | Mohan | its just this time i missed the date. |
| 09:38.01 | wethrin | Yeah. I pay the full amount by DD |
| 09:38.32 | morsing | Mohan: Stop bloody fretting! Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning? |
| 09:39.24 | wethrin | Right. Time to go. Have a good day, folks! |
| 09:39.49 | morsing | Bye!! |
| 09:39.57 | Mohan | nope, it the same side. |
| 09:40.03 | Mohan | bye. |
| 09:40.06 | morsing | Mohan: Stop taking drugs then |
| 09:40.21 | morsing | Mohan: I'll give you the 3p if you want |
| 09:41.01 | Mohan | morsing: i appreciate your generosity. |
| 09:41.07 | Mohan | thanks. |
| 09:41.15 | morsing | Well... I don't want you to starve... |
| 09:43.02 | Mohan | wonders what he can do with his luck fortune of 3p |
| 09:43.14 | Mohan | err.. lucky |
| 09:43.26 | morsing | Mohan: You didn't make 3p - I just offered to pay off your credit card interest |
| 09:43.38 | morsing | Don't spend it on food |
| 09:45.12 | Mohan | morsing: my credit card intrest would be around 50£ |
| 09:45.35 | morsing | No way - if that's the case you owe more than £10k on it |
| 09:45.53 | morsing | Sorry, did you say 50p? |
| 09:46.01 | morsing | My character set is off, sorry |
| 09:46.12 | morsing | Well, 50p then - who cares |
| 09:46.25 | morsing | I'll buy you a drink if you stop moaning about it |
| 09:46.40 | Mohan | i said its 50 pounds. |
| 09:46.57 | morsing | Rubbish - so you spent more than £10k on it? |
| 09:47.07 | morsing | Christmas presents for your friends? |
| 09:47.41 | hali | morning |
| 09:47.45 | morsing | Or where did you get this "credit card"? That corner in Brixton? |
| 09:47.50 | morsing | hali! |
| 09:48.05 | hali | ugh, shit... hangover |
| 09:48.26 | morsing | hali: Listen to this, Mohan has a credit card that charges £50 for paying a day late, and that's interest, not a fee! |
| 09:49.07 | Mohan | nope its a different card i took from high street. has a visa logo on it. |
| 09:49.10 | morsing | That would be like £20k interest per year |
| 09:49.25 | Mohan | what would be the intrest for 2K ? |
| 09:49.49 | morsing | Well <£1 |
| 09:49.55 | hali | whats the APR on the card? |
| 09:50.03 | Mohan | 14.9% |
| 09:50.11 | hali | thats not too bad |
| 09:54.16 | Mohan | bye guys - time for work. |
| 09:55.16 | morsing | Mohan: Just tried an interest calculator and you'll pay around 40p interest on that |
| 09:55.32 | morsing | Mohan: Did you go to school? |
| 10:09.46 | ChoHag | Using commercial software really makes you appreciate apt and dpkg. |
| 10:12.04 | hali | some commercial software companies let you use apt and dpkg |
| 10:12.53 | ChoHag | Well I wish HP was one of them, but I'm glad I'm not the one having to deal with the fact that they don't. |
| 10:13.13 | hali | oracle has got their own apt repo |
| 10:13.45 | ChoHag | Yeah I think it has a library in it. |
| 10:14.43 | ChoHag | Actually that's not fair - it does contain oracle xe in the non-free part. |
| 10:14.59 | morsing | ChoHag: lpp++ |
| 10:15.11 | morsing | ChoHag: SUMA++ |
| 10:15.28 | ChoHag | ... |
| 10:45.58 | ChoHag | The winmail twat is at it again. |
| 10:46.08 | ChoHag | This time bullshitting about compression. |
| 10:46.44 | ChoHag | A network admin who can't understand why a 100Mb line is achieving about 8MB/s. |
| 10:47.53 | morsing | winmail? |
| 10:48.11 | ChoHag | See yesterday. |
| 10:48.34 | ChoHag | He thinks winmail.dat says where the email has been and doesn't know what happened to the attachments. |
| 10:57.27 | morsing | I think he's right |
| 10:58.55 | ChoHag | Not about the attachments. |
| 10:59.14 | morsing | I wouldn't have a clue - what's winmail.dat?? |
| 10:59.28 | morsing | Anyone here interested in a Debenhams voucher? |
| 10:59.37 | ChoHag | TNEF - used by outlook to do what MIME does for everybody else. |
| 10:59.44 | morsing | ibot TNEF |
| 10:59.45 | ibot | Decodes application/ms-tnef attachments. URL: http://world.std.com/~damned/tnef-latest.tar.gz |
| 10:59.52 | morsing | Anyone here interested in a Debenhams voucher? |
| 11:02.41 | morsing | Does anyone know if I can exchange a Debenhams voucher for cash? |
| 11:03.39 | ChoHag | Of course you can. |
| 11:03.41 | ChoHag | 0.0001p |
| 11:06.45 | morsing | ChoHag: Can I interest you in a Debenhams voucher? |
| 11:07.03 | ChoHag | I don't know. Can you? |
| 11:07.49 | antiphase | You could just go to Debenhams and exchange it for goods |
| 11:07.55 | ChoHag | Can you tell me why my bridge isn't working? |
| 11:08.07 | morsing | ChoHag: *sigh* |
| 11:08.08 | cpufreak | haven't Debenhams gone bust? |
| 11:08.13 | antiphase | Too many trolls under the bridge |
| 11:08.14 | morsing | ChoHag: I can't afford that |
| 11:08.21 | morsing | antiphase: I can't afford that |
| 11:08.37 | cpufreak | morsing: get a job then |
| 11:08.41 | ChoHag | You can't afford to get free stuff? |
| 11:08.44 | morsing | cpufreak: Idiot |
| 11:08.53 | morsing | ChoHag: It's not free |
| 11:09.07 | ChoHag | Not a very good voucher then is it? |
| 11:09.07 | antiphase | Don't tell me, it costs 20 minutes |
| 11:09.11 | cpufreak | you're the one who can't afford shit... and you call me the idiot |
| 11:09.31 | morsing | cpufreak: Idiot |
| 11:09.34 | morsing | antiphase: Idiot |
| 11:09.35 | cpufreak | I see |
| 11:09.47 | cpufreak | inferiority complex or something? |
| 11:10.07 | ChoHag | "There's no point in putting more than 4GB in a server 'cos it can't use it." |
| 11:10.16 | morsing | I'll put it on Ebay |
| 11:10.29 | hali | winmail.dat-admin again? |
| 11:10.37 | ChoHag | Da. |
| 11:11.46 | antiphase | Varkensvlees |
| 11:12.53 | ChoHag | I just ate a mint and now I can't drink my water :( |
| 11:13.25 | hali | blackberry are bastards, the new one doesn't use usb for charging :( |
| 11:29.16 | cpufreak | my curve does |
| 11:30.02 | morsing | hali: Good - they follow standards then |
| 11:30.47 | j0nr | morsing: http://voucher-exchange.com/ |
| 11:31.03 | morsing | j0nr: Trust is the issue... |
| 11:31.06 | morsing | But thanks |
| 11:34.51 | ChoHag | Ah that's why my bridge wasn't working. |
| 11:38.49 | ChoHag | Need to bring the interfaces up. |
| 11:41.10 | morsing | Beer |
| 11:42.44 | hali | their ostandards |
| 11:43.57 | morsing | hali: Read the USB standard for current draw |
| 11:44.01 | morsing | It's 0.1A |
| 11:45.02 | hali | powered usb power are 1.8A |
| 11:45.09 | hali | ports* |
| 11:45.24 | morsing | And this is defined where?! |
| 11:47.49 | hali | usb 2.0 power spec |
| 11:53.42 | morsing | Beer |
| 12:08.45 | chillitom | don't usb devices have to negotiate their power usage? |
| 12:09.03 | chillitom | you can draw f'all until you ask for it and then you might not get it |
| 12:14.16 | antiphase | USB always used to be limited to 500mA |
| 12:14.21 | antiphase | When I were a lad |
| 12:14.57 | ChoHag | "Connections into the dmz are slow" |
| 12:14.59 | antiphase | I'd like to see you get nearly 2 amps down the hair-wide cable you usually get |
| 12:15.09 | ChoHag | "Well are you sure it's not your box? The network's fine." |
| 12:15.11 | ChoHag | Tossers. |
| 12:18.31 | morsing | Beer |
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| 12:25.36 | AndyMillar | hmm |
| 12:25.41 | AndyMillar | 20TB of space to play with soon \o/ |
| 12:26.04 | morsing | rhowe! |
| 12:28.24 | Nafallo | AndyMillar: porn!? |
| 12:28.30 | AndyMillar | Nafallo: sadly not |
| 12:28.49 | Nafallo | I would think 20TB porn were sad actually... |
| 12:28.56 | Nafallo | must take AGES to find the good stuff. |
| 12:29.34 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 12:29.59 | AndyMillar | there's no way i'm creating a 20TB ext3 fs :p |
| 12:30.20 | Nafallo | ext4? :-) |
| 12:33.51 | z00dax | AndyMillar: why not ext3 ? |
| 12:34.24 | z00dax | also, which version of ext3 ? |
| 12:35.15 | antiphase | You end up with big clusters because of the inode limit on file systems that size with ext3 |
| 12:35.28 | antiphase | not to mention XFS being better for writing |
| 12:36.24 | antiphase | starts a holy war |
| 12:37.06 | Nafallo | ext4? |
| 12:37.24 | cpufreak | ext4 is essentially unproven. |
| 12:37.44 | Nafallo | yea. someone should prove it then... /me looks at AndyMillar ;-) |
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| 12:44.40 | dick_turpin | morsing: beer |
| 12:51.20 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 13:00.20 | ChoHag | Why does dhcpd say no such device? |
| 13:05.10 | antiphase | Maybe the device does not exist |
| 13:07.08 | ChoHag | Ah but it does. |
| 13:07.30 | ChoHag | Otherwise how would the DHCPDISCOVER arrive? |
| 13:08.37 | antiphase | Depends |
| 13:09.07 | antiphase | Funny things go on when you send broadcasts |
| 13:11.00 | kjs | afternoon chaps |
| 13:13.20 | ChoHag | In this case, it is simply than linux or dhcp doesn't like the long interface name. |
| 13:13.28 | ChoHag | And now to lunch. |
| 13:13.46 | antiphase | Is it longer than "ethN"? |
| 13:13.57 | ChoHag | It was. |
| 13:14.19 | ChoHag | br_monnsta_6_1 |
| 13:14.22 | ChoHag | Now it is just br3 |
| 13:14.34 | antiphase | 3... Oh dear |
| 13:14.57 | ChoHag | You can moan at me later. |
| 13:15.05 | ChoHag | It works and I'm hungry. |
| 13:16.26 | j0nr | is it possible to rename a bunch of avi files to include their 'date created on' as part of the filename? |
| 13:17.25 | j0nr | if you right-click a file and get properties of an avi it usually gives you 'date created on' ....can i get to that somehow in a script to rename the files? |
| 13:21.43 | antiphase | It is possible |
| 13:38.36 | j0nr | any idea how? |
| 13:38.44 | j0nr | or where to look? keywords? |
| 13:46.36 | antiphase | ls |
| 13:50.19 | chillitom | j0nr, yeah that's possible |
| 13:50.31 | chillitom | you'll need, a for loop.. |
| 13:50.36 | chillitom | a bash substitution |
| 13:50.51 | chillitom | stat and some grep or wawk magic |
| 13:50.58 | chillitom | s/wawk/awk |
| 13:56.29 | morsing | Beer |
| 13:58.45 | j0nr | but ls just gives me last modified date doesn't it? |
| 14:00.12 | ChoHag | wawk sounds so much more fun. |
| 14:00.36 | ChoHag | Or possibly more avian. |
| 14:07.00 | ChoHag | How do you say 'on the next 3 lines do <X>' on vi? |
| 14:07.24 | ChoHag | Other than ma3j:'a,. |
| 14:11.21 | ChoHag | Actually that would be 2j not 3j |
| 14:29.20 | chillitom | ChoHag, what do you want to do? |
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| 15:23.24 | AndyMillar | hmm |
| 15:23.34 | AndyMillar | any ideas how I can restrict colour printing using cups? |
| 15:23.48 | boudiccas | turn off the colour printer? |
| 15:24.15 | morsing | Turn off cups |
| 15:24.45 | ChoHag | Take the colour cartridges out and place them in a cup. |
| 15:26.40 | AndyMillar | boudiccas: i need to be able to print colour too |
| 15:26.46 | AndyMillar | just restrict it to specific users |
| 15:44.27 | ChoHag | Is it worth restricting ntp to only access a server on the lan? |
| 15:47.18 | morsing | Beer |
| 16:00.23 | cpufreak | ChoHag: just use pool.ntp.org |
| 16:00.55 | ChoHag | That's what I do. |
| 16:01.09 | morsing | Cawfy |
| 16:02.09 | Nafallo | realise that means ChoHag is potentially using his IRC-server... ;-) |
| 16:02.22 | ChoHag | ? |
| 16:02.25 | morsing | ? |
| 16:02.38 | Nafallo | my irc server is in the pool |
| 16:02.45 | ChoHag | Ah. |
| 16:02.58 | morsing | s/his/my/ |
| 16:02.58 | Nafallo | stratum 2 :-) |
| 16:02.59 | boudiccas | then fish it out quick, theyre not designed to be used underwater |
| 16:03.14 | Nafallo | oh. right. /me blames sickness |
| 16:03.48 | ChoHag | Well that hardly makes me a member of a restricted group. |
| 16:12.57 | Nafallo | it doesn't :-) |
| 16:13.35 | Nafallo | quite weird to see the amount of pps ntp does sometimes ;-) |
| 16:14.17 | ChoHag | pps? |
| 16:28.25 | AndyMillar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.37 | Nafallo | packets per second |
| 16:31.16 | ChoHag | High is it? |
| 16:32.27 | Nafallo | was a while since I checked. let's see if I can resurrect the data. |
| 16:37.38 | Nafallo | was a while since I ran munin on that box, but it was about 1k by the looks of things. |
| 16:39.10 | Nafallo | hehe. 743.77 UDP connections average ;-) |
| 16:39.28 | Nafallo | max at 12.36k |
| 16:39.44 | Nafallo | small values compared to ntp.ubuntu.com :-) |
| 16:42.42 | chillitom | i thought the whole thing about UDP was that it didn't have connections.. |
| 16:42.49 | chillitom | just packets and destinations |
| 16:48.13 | Nafallo | well, munin calls it connections. I would probably say hits :-) |
| 16:57.10 | morsing | beer |
| 17:03.31 | kraptv | Gregg's |
| 17:03.37 | kraptv | in your FACE |
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| 20:24.51 | morsing | jpds! |
| 20:24.53 | morsing | catalyst |
| 20:24.55 | morsing | j0nr_! |
| 20:38.28 | morsing | Beer |
| 22:34.56 | ChoHag | Why do retared protocols always have 'simple' somewhere in their name? |
| 22:48.00 | Stephmw | because they're describing their designers |
| 23:39.53 | morsing | G'night all |