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| 07:13.42 | bilarh | morning |
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| 07:34.49 | hali | morning |
| 07:36.21 | bilarh | w00t, friday |
| 07:36.25 | bilarh | all day |
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| 08:14.25 | hali | yet another day |
| 08:19.00 | zeroXten | but its friday \o/ |
| 08:40.19 | Leeds | almost 5pm on Friday! |
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| 08:58.45 | Guest30078 | morning |
| 09:39.31 | hali | entertains himself with a gns3 lab |
| 09:40.25 | bilarh | you still at home? |
| 09:42.16 | bilarh | whooooaaaaa, now i'm super impressed with vmware server |
| 09:42.29 | bilarh | so, i've started a vm on a server somewhere |
| 09:42.37 | bilarh | running the "web" client on my machine |
| 09:42.43 | bilarh | (which isn't a web client, but still) |
| 09:43.03 | bilarh | i can now connect the USB devices connected to *my* computer to the vmware image |
| 09:43.11 | bilarh | *that* is clever stuff :D |
| 09:45.05 | Mohan | bilarh: thats a standard feature on vmware workstation. |
| 09:45.31 | bilarh | yeah of course, but i didn't know that the client, running on my machine, can pass usb to the guest os, running on a server somewhere else |
| 09:46.29 | Mohan | well thats similar to the dell drac card where you can install the whole OS on a remote server from a client machine. |
| 09:47.41 | Mohan | i mean the interface shares your local cd/usb on remote machine |
| 09:48.42 | bilarh | yes, but this is vmware we're talking about |
| 09:48.51 | bilarh | as mentioned in the first line ;) |
| 09:49.02 | bilarh | i thought it was cool, anyway :) |
| 09:49.13 | ChoHag | Is it that clever? |
| 09:49.45 | bilarh | i think it is, yes |
| 09:50.10 | ChoHag | A simple bit of ssh trickery could do it - they've just enclosed it in some random protocol so as not to scare the Windows guests. |
| 09:50.10 | bilarh | very useful if you can't be bothered to walk all the way to the server room to connect your external device to it |
| 09:50.32 | bilarh | how do you do it in ssh? :S |
| 09:51.01 | ChoHag | shrugs |
| 09:51.14 | ChoHag | Never needed to. |
| 09:51.32 | bilarh | i don't think it'd be that simple, but i could be wrong of course |
| 09:51.32 | Mohan | bilarh: fuse-sshfs can be used i guess |
| 09:52.08 | bilarh | what if your guest is a windows box? |
| 09:52.17 | bilarh | or if you want to boot off your external device? |
| 09:52.30 | ChoHag | char dev locally | ssh | fifo |
| 09:52.35 | bilarh | or if you actually have something other than a storage device to connect? |
| 09:52.39 | Mohan | well good point. |
| 09:53.38 | hali | besides, you can't boot a remote box of an ssh hack |
| 09:53.48 | ChoHag | No, that's what pxe is for. |
| 09:53.48 | hali | while you can boot a remote vm with usb media forwarding |
| 09:54.10 | ChoHag | Unless, as mentioned, you don't want to scare the Windows guests. |
| 09:54.22 | hali | for bog standard installs yes, what about a remote box in japan with no pxe environment? |
| 09:54.25 | hali | quite handy with usb then |
| 09:54.42 | hali | i see plenty of uses for all the above |
| 09:54.45 | hali | in their own ways |
| 09:55.16 | ChoHag | Well yes, I wouldn't get rid of it, and it's too simple not to have in the virtualisation system. |
| 09:55.35 | ChoHag | But that's the point - it's simple not earth-shattering. |
| 09:56.33 | bilarh | i think it's a pretty big leap forward in virtualization techniques |
| 09:56.54 | Mohan | Its a very useful feature, but my point is its been there for sometime and not new in vmware server :) |
| 09:57.34 | bilarh | the remote part is, as it's not working in vmware player (or workstation of course) as you can't forward your usb to other hosts |
| 09:57.48 | bilarh | other "host" hosts i mean |
| 09:58.00 | hali | the vi client |
| 09:58.20 | bilarh | vi, yuck |
| 09:58.26 | bilarh | give me vmware.el any day |
| 09:58.49 | hali | did some monkey actually write that? |
| 09:58.59 | hali | i use vima quite a lot, with all the fairly cool ghetto scripts |
| 09:59.15 | bilarh | no, not that i know of, i was just jesting :P |
| 10:01.19 | ChoHag | EXPERIENCE: SYSTEM DESIGN WRITING SPECIFICATIONS DOORS |
| 10:01.43 | bilarh | oh doors.. i remember them from the bbs days :) |
| 10:04.56 | Mohan | my laptop vostro 1400 Graphics card died after 15 months and since its design fault, dell are replacing the motherboard for free :) |
| 10:05.32 | z00dax | humm.. mozrat is alive. |
| 10:05.37 | z00dax | which is a good thing |
| 10:06.22 | z00dax | also, hali cobbler+koan for installs on local and remote machines with no pxe. Can do it via iso boot or usb boot too |
| 10:06.36 | z00dax | and it knows vbox/xen/most of vmware/kvm/qemu |
| 10:07.06 | z00dax | I'm sort of working on the vmware stuff a bit, to have koan know and be able to use/deploy to vmware-server 1/ server 2 / fusion / esx |
| 10:07.23 | z00dax | if only vmware would stop changing the ballgame with every release |
| 10:10.23 | hali | yes, that sucks |
| 10:10.29 | hali | but the api now looks promising |
| 10:10.46 | hali | they've gone from web gui, thick client to web gui again |
| 10:20.38 | z00dax | I've been mostly doing shell calls to vmrun and vmware-cmd so far. |
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| 12:11.28 | bilarh | dick_turpin: |
| 12:11.44 | bilarh | dick_turpin: hey i know you're bored at work |
| 12:11.57 | bilarh | dick_turpin: why don't you become an MP and claim lots of expenses |
| 12:12.13 | bilarh | and then pay them back when someone discovers your "accidental claim" |
| 12:14.13 | dick_turpin | Only if I can be a Euro MP the gravy train is much larger there |
| 12:15.11 | bilarh | you have to start somewhere |
| 12:18.30 | dick_turpin | We had a BNP leaflet shoved through the door yesterday, I was planning on wiping my bum on it but then realise even that was raising its level of importance higher than it should be so just chucked it in the bin |
| 12:18.52 | bilarh | i'd rather vote bnp than labour to be honest |
| 12:18.57 | Leeds | to be fair, covering it with shit would doubtless improve the content |
| 12:24.20 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I'd far rather vote raving loony cant be any worse and at least you'd expect idiots rather than the fained shock of discovering that those in authority have the intelligence of a baboon which in itself is insulting to baboons |
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| 12:53.23 | Leeds | should see some baboons tomorrow - going to a safari park - so I'll ask them about expenses, bank bailouts, and rights for non-citizen soldiers |
| 12:57.05 | ChoHag | Should I lie and say I've used Netapp? |
| 12:57.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Hows the car? |
| 12:57.25 | ChoHag | I mean how different can one san be from another? |
| 12:58.43 | bilarh | dick_turpin: which one? |
| 12:58.59 | bilarh | dick_turpin: the saab is not boosting past 1.4bar, so it only does 60 to 100 in 6 seconds now :( |
| 12:59.48 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Thats a blow, bwahaha |
| 13:00.33 | bilarh | not to worry, the bits are coming off in the weekend / next week to sort some bits and pieces out :) |
| 13:01.38 | dick_turpin | bilarh: From what I hear bits and pieces are coming off as you drive down the road |
| 13:03.46 | bilarh | oh really? |
| 13:04.44 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Just don't check your wheel nuts, I checked em for you earlier, safe trip :-) |
| 13:07.32 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 13:15.22 | rhowe | hmm, so does anyone know any IT suppliers in the US? |
| 13:15.38 | rhowe | is looking to set up a credit account and order some kit, but the only one I can think of is Insight |
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| 13:46.05 | z00dax | rhowe: zipzoomfly and newegg are the big ones afaik |
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| 13:46.34 | z00dax | the 'old boys' like cdw etc are mostly in legacy mode these days |
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| 13:54.16 | rhowe | z00dax: ta |
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| 21:29.48 | rhowe | "Sir/Madam, I work as a foreign remittance director in our bank. i have a business of (93 million dollas) for you Reply Immediately for details" |
| 21:29.56 | rhowe | Wow, that could be the world's tersest 419 |
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