IRC log for #gllug on 20090511

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10:56.13ChoHagIs it possible to switch keyboard layouts in plain X without resorting to something like setxkbmap?
10:59.30MrKenChoHag: xmodmap?
11:00.02ChoHagThat alters it, and works.
11:00.26ChoHagBut I have two layouts selected in XkbLayout and I want to be able to toggle between them.
11:00.37MrKenAh
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11:20.08z00daxGnom'es keyboard pref's had something that worked for on-the-fly changing layouts
11:20.12z00daxgnome's even
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11:22.49MrKenChoHag: http://littlesvr.ca/linux-stuff/articles/keyblangx11/keyblangx11.php
11:23.52dick_turpinFor all those living under a rock the past couple of days LugRadio Live 09 will be happening on 24th October 2009 at the Newhampton Arts Centre, Wolverhampton!
11:24.07ChoHagz00dax: Gnome is evil though.
11:24.57DiscordianUKI love Gnome
11:25.10ChoHaghttp://xkcd.com/582/
11:27.01pdrHi all, hope you're all well - just wondering if any of you remember Anthony Rumble at all?
11:28.03ChoHagAck. Clipboard full of junk.
11:28.27ChoHagAlso, MrKen I have that (actually ctrl-shift but a group switcher all the same) and it doesn't work.
11:28.42MrKenChoHag: Hrm
11:29.57MrKenChoHag: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-December/msg01354.html
11:30.01MrKen^-- possibly explains why
11:30.56ChoHagI don't have hal.
11:31.47MrKenChoHag: Do the XkbOptions work at all?
11:31.58ChoHagI don't think so.
11:32.05ChoHagCertainly the group switching one doesn't.
11:32.25ChoHagI should probably add one.
11:32.35MrKenAll I can see is that the switch to evdev disables them
11:32.49MrKenChoHag: What distro?
11:32.53ChoHaglenny
11:33.05MrKenHrm. And no hal?
11:33.08ChoHagNope.
11:33.23ChoHagNo need for it.
11:33.36MrKen*nod*
11:34.21MrKenhttp://www.mail-archive.com/debian-x@lists.debian.org/msg83222.html
11:34.42MrKenSeems to suggest that the functionality is in hal
11:35.05MrKenEven though xorg doesn't suggest/recommend hal
11:36.10ChoHagIt seems to suggest that's the case in experimental.
11:36.37dick_turpinMrKen: You may have to edit policykit, I had to to get GB keyboard working with Arch
11:37.31ChoHagI don't have that either.
11:37.46MrKenChoHag: *nod* I don't have access to a lenny system with X11 to check anything :(
11:38.10ChoHagAlso setxkbmap seems to suggest that I'm not using evdev.
11:38.16ChoHagMaybe I should.
11:38.34ChoHagOh well.
11:38.37ChoHaglunches
11:38.37MrKenYeah, lenny has xserver-xorg-input-evdev
11:43.18z00daxChoHag: Gnome is mostly ok for me though, I tend to spend most of my life in apps space or on the terminal
11:52.20ChoHagYeah I just decided I don't need to waste space with gnome so that I can run rxvts.
12:13.20dick_turpinbilarh: The Euro elections are starting, fancy signing my candidate form?
12:13.53bilarhdick_turpin: what do you mean they're starting?
12:14.22bilarhbut either way, i'm voting for cameron's party ;)
12:15.54dick_turpinNo no Vote for me, my policies are "Anyone with a gas guzzling fast car" No Tax and free petrol
12:28.35bilarhdick_turpin: hrm i might have to consider it :)
12:28.43bilarhok i've considered and i'm voting for you
12:28.46bilarhwhere do i sign?
12:29.39dick_turpinbilarh: Just here under "Moaning Swedes go home" :-P
12:29.58bilarhhehe :D
12:30.25bilarhmmmm, moaning swedes :D
12:30.38bilarhi'm sure i've seen that film
12:31.52dick_turpinbilarh: Actually thats not true, another policy is to allow every-man-and-his-dog into the country, actually it will no longer be a country just a province of Europa
12:32.17bilarhoh stop whining you white middle class english idiot
12:32.23bilarhus foreigners are good for your country
12:32.32bilarhwe do all the highly paid it jobs you natives don't want to do
12:33.29dick_turpinbilarh: No honestly I mean it, get over and done with, all this King Canute stuff is just prolonging the agony
12:33.39dick_turpinget it over
12:34.05bilarhis there a "get a leg over" policy?
12:34.09bilarhin that case i might vote for you
12:36.41MrKengot a BNP flyer in his lettebox the other day
12:36.56MrKenOh the irony, the candidate was born in Sydney
12:37.53bilarhtrue story: one of the members in the swedish equivalent to BNP was black
12:38.01MrKenYikes
12:38.08bilarhhe was let in because he was anti-semitic which was more important than being white hehe :D
12:38.24bilarhhe's now serving life for shooting a police officer in the base of the neck at point blank range
12:38.48MrKenAnnoyingly, I tore up the flyer almost immediately, which meant that when I wanted to read it an laugh it was rather tricky
12:38.52MrKenbilarh: Erk
12:42.03halibilarh used to work for the bnp
12:47.26bilarhtis true :D
12:49.42dick_turpinnow waits for someone to shove a Richard through bilarh's letter box
12:54.14MrKenheh
12:54.45MrKenbilarh: Now they're too left wing for you? :P
12:57.03bilarhmrken: yeah :S
12:57.06bilarhbloody softies
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13:24.06ChoHagAh! I've worked it out.
13:24.21ChoHagOld configuration I thought I'd blown away was overwriting X's default configuration.
13:27.46ChoHagNow I can happily type away in Украінська.
13:27.50ChoHagAlbeit slowly.
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