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07:34.23 | ChoHag | "PLEASE NOTE 02.30 AND 05.30 SHOWS ARE LATE NIGHT/EARLY MORNING SHOWS." |
07:34.37 | ChoHag | Never! |
07:44.04 | AndyMillar | most people are idiots :p |
08:00.30 | ChoHag | wtf is a 'card handling fee'? |
08:00.41 | ChoHag | I thought these morons wanted you to pay with card rather than cash? |
08:03.12 | Leeds | it's a ripoff fee |
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08:30.42 | ChoHag | I can't remember my CA's passphrase. |
08:30.58 | ChoHag | I have an encoding of it written down but I can't decode my notes. |
08:31.33 | bilarh | fail |
08:31.53 | ChoHag | Aye. |
08:37.00 | bilarh | how can it only be 9:36, i've been here for what feels like 4 hours already |
08:37.16 | hali | bilarh: skive? |
08:37.28 | hali | "ah me left bollock is a bit sore, im going home" |
08:37.41 | bilarh | don't tempt me |
08:39.59 | hali | going to the girlfriends parents for the weekend, fortunately they are in france :P |
08:40.23 | bilarh | nice one :) |
08:40.39 | bilarh | i'm staying at home on call, w00t! :) |
08:40.51 | hali | at least it's money |
08:41.06 | bilarh | actually, it isn't :) |
08:41.06 | hali | got the BB tuned to maximum ring tone volume this time? |
08:41.19 | bilarh | yep, and it's now been configured to ring more than once too :D |
08:41.23 | bilarh | all good to go |
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11:49.06 | hali | bilarh: where in camden was it you lived? |
11:49.09 | hali | is moving .. somewhere |
11:49.38 | bilarh | ok |
11:49.44 | bilarh | do *not* move to camden FFS |
11:49.49 | bilarh | move somewhere nicer |
11:49.54 | bilarh | camden is nice to visit every so often |
11:50.04 | hali | http://www.gumtree.com/london/11/38570411.html |
11:50.09 | bilarh | but if you have to live in that tourist+druggie infected ghetto, it gets really old, really quickly |
11:50.13 | hali | sort of outskirts of camden |
11:50.17 | hali | to the south |
11:50.32 | hali | may just stay around spitalfields / bricklane |
11:51.14 | bilarh | do not move there |
11:51.17 | bilarh | right by the canal |
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11:51.40 | hali | too many floaters? |
11:51.43 | bilarh | you'll have alcoholics + "users" fighting and shouting outsdie your window from 8pm to about 4am |
11:53.14 | bilarh | what's wrong with your current gaff? |
11:53.18 | hali | bored |
11:53.29 | hali | and i can get something nicer for the same dosh |
11:53.43 | bilarh | how much are you paying? |
11:53.43 | hali | will probably just move around the corner from where i am |
11:53.46 | hali | 1k |
11:53.49 | bilarh | ok |
11:54.01 | hali | got a bit higher budget now *deep breaths* |
11:54.10 | hali | dani is moving in *runs away* |
11:54.20 | bilarh | crazy stuff :) |
11:54.22 | hali | yeah |
11:54.26 | hali | fucked up innit ;) |
11:54.30 | bilarh | but cool all the same |
11:54.33 | dick_turpin | bilarh: For you, about £2.85 a Month :-P |
11:54.57 | bilarh | dick_turpin: oh btw, thanks for you-know-what ;) |
11:55.05 | bilarh | dick_turpin: worked out surprisingly well |
11:56.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Shh I only do favours for those I like. Plus I do have a reputation to maintain of a Victor Meldrew rip off merchant ;-) |
11:57.27 | bilarh | hali: one thing to consider, find something you can pay for with one salary if either of you lose your jobs |
11:57.30 | bilarh | IMO |
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11:58.18 | hali | bilarh: dani was made redundant a few weeks back :P |
11:58.31 | hali | so yep |
11:59.25 | bilarh | consider getting somethign she could pay for with a job she's likely to get when she's not unemployed anymore |
11:59.52 | hali | should be ok |
12:00.18 | hali | touch on wood, but i dont think they would sack me from here |
12:00.34 | hali | they even offer a retention bonus |
12:00.58 | bilarh | you might get bought out etc etc |
12:01.05 | bilarh | shit happens faster than you can imagine, sometimes :) |
12:01.10 | hali | but then again, we are VC funded and exactly |
12:01.19 | hali | yes, we are in the process of aquiring a company larger than us |
12:01.56 | bilarh | and i'm sure you'll find a job again, it's just a matter of how long it takes |
12:02.09 | bilarh | and also how much pay you can get |
12:02.13 | hali | job standard vs. time |
12:02.19 | bilarh | at the moment it seems like most jobs pay less than they did a while back |
12:02.24 | bilarh | exactly |
12:04.21 | AndyMillar | aye :( |
12:05.10 | bilarh | antiphase: if you haven't already seen this, it will tickle your fancy, i think: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=226570 |
12:05.47 | bilarh | it ticks all the right boxes: Dumb Americaaaans, fast vehicles and extraordinary stupidity :) |
12:05.55 | bilarh | you need to read to at least page two |
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12:11.05 | ChoHag | kicks his modem |
12:11.16 | ChoHag | kicks BT too for good measure. |
12:11.30 | bilarh | stop doing that, you just dropped connection a while back |
12:12.24 | ChoHag | Why does a day have 24 haurs in it? |
12:12.46 | dick_turpin | Section 5.1 specifically states that malicious damage is not covered under our maintenance contract |
12:14.32 | bilarh | sooo.... |
12:14.41 | bilarh | biggest spending drop since 1980 according to the bbc |
12:14.57 | bilarh | spending by households down 1.2% in the first quarter |
12:15.10 | bilarh | i quote: "The only sector of the economy making a positive contribution to growth was government spending. " |
12:15.22 | bilarh | that made me laugh :) |
12:16.19 | ChoHag | So they're really doing us all a favour? |
12:18.22 | bilarh | yep |
12:18.35 | bilarh | luckily we have a government in charge that knows all about spending money :) |
12:18.48 | ChoHag | Well they're certainly very practiced. |
12:22.23 | bilarh | oh my |
12:22.30 | bilarh | you can still buy a mk1 golf NEW |
12:22.35 | bilarh | in south africa |
12:22.38 | bilarh | http://www.vw.co.za/models/citi/gallery/ |
12:27.18 | DiscordianUK | gah F11 has slipped by a week |
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12:28.31 | morsing | Linux sucks |
12:28.44 | morsing | How do I find the firmware level for an HBA? |
12:29.07 | DiscordianUK | isn't this a linux channel? |
12:30.02 | DiscordianUK | and what in the name of tarnation is a HBA? |
12:31.57 | Leeds | host bus adapter |
12:32.17 | DiscordianUK | oh |
12:32.28 | DiscordianUK | that makes me think of SCO |
12:32.33 | Leeds | an old-fashioned Unix term for a storage I/O card |
12:32.46 | Leeds | yes, exactly where I learnt the term :-) |
12:33.00 | Leeds | morsing is an old-fashioned Unix sort of guy |
12:33.51 | morsing | This is a a Linux oriented channel, however, no requirement to be in love with the crap |
12:34.08 | DiscordianUK | I'm pondering installing Unixware under Virtualbox |
12:34.26 | Leeds | what the *FUCK* for? |
12:34.28 | DiscordianUK | I love this crap |
12:34.42 | bilarh | suggest google might know about specialist HBA cards better than #gllug |
12:34.50 | morsing | *sigh* So you're proven my point, Linux can't do the most trivial things... |
12:34.57 | morsing | bilarh: It doesn't |
12:35.16 | morsing | And they're not specialist. All the Linux servers I've worked with have had HBAs |
12:35.27 | DiscordianUK | I've used linux as my desktop os since 1994 |
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12:35.52 | DiscordianUK | he's a clear fa |
12:35.56 | DiscordianUK | FAIL |
12:36.44 | bilarh | hmm |
12:37.00 | bilarh | can i reasonably take offence at being a point that was proven? :D |
12:37.15 | DiscordianUK | aye |
12:38.00 | DiscordianUK | and unixware because I can |
12:38.19 | dick_turpin | What flavour of Linux? |
12:38.42 | DiscordianUK | I use Fedora or CentOS |
12:39.02 | dick_turpin | I meant in 1994 |
12:39.24 | DiscordianUK | Slackware then |
12:39.32 | dick_turpin | Ah |
12:39.41 | bilarh | ah the good old days of slack |
12:39.48 | bilarh | and rh3 :) |
12:40.26 | DiscordianUK | I went SLS->MCC->Yggdrasil->Slackware->RedHat |
12:41.08 | DiscordianUK | I've still got a boxed set of RH5.1 |
12:41.46 | dick_turpin | I have a boxed set here now of RH 6.x |
12:42.08 | bilarh | i was flirting with the various bsd's for a while as well |
12:42.22 | ChoHag | Did they put out? |
12:42.23 | DiscordianUK | I know I have a boxed set of RH7 too |
12:42.25 | bilarh | even ran freebsd on a couple of cvs server back in the distant past |
12:42.56 | DiscordianUK | I played with netbsd/396bsd in 93 |
12:44.00 | dick_turpin | I think my 1st was RH 5.5 (Or 6/7/ et al) I don't think it was 5.1 but who knows |
12:44.04 | DiscordianUK | I've a CD with all of 386BSD/NetBSD/Linux on it from 92 |
12:45.26 | hali | i always get a warm fuzzy feeling when running openbsd, it goes away after a couple of days when i get bored of it though |
12:45.56 | hali | bilarh: do you remember those CD packs we bought in that computer shop in "briken backen"? :) |
12:46.02 | hali | i still have one of them |
12:46.04 | DiscordianUK | does it still have the funky installer? |
12:46.14 | hali | DiscordianUK: the shell script you mean? :) |
12:46.26 | dick_turpin | I get a warm feeling every now and then until I realise bilarh is behind me |
12:46.44 | DiscordianUK | the one where you need to describe the disk geometry |
12:54.43 | bilarh | hali: yep :D |
13:07.13 | Leeds | I still use slack |
13:08.27 | DiscordianUK | i've heard rumours slack even has a package manager now |
13:09.32 | Leeds | nah, 'tis a vicious inaccuracy |
13:10.08 | Leeds | but I am genuinely looking forward to trying the new 64-bit version, coming soon...ish |
13:10.30 | DiscordianUK | yeah so I saw |
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13:43.54 | lweight | afternoon |
13:44.24 | DiscordianUK | evening |
13:44.40 | lweight | evening? |
13:45.26 | DiscordianUK | well okay afternoon |
13:46.41 | bilarh | 1 hour and 13 minutes to go |
13:52.23 | lweight | you run on UTC? |
13:53.00 | DiscordianUK | UTC is the only sane time standard |
13:53.29 | lweight | For now, perhaps. |
13:53.32 | wethrin | Apart from it doesn't take into account the rotation of the earth. |
13:53.39 | lweight | I have a plan to address that issue |
13:53.46 | DiscordianUK | It does though |
13:53.48 | wethrin | So actually it's not good for actual people |
13:53.55 | wethrin | you still need timezones |
13:54.06 | bilarh | lweight: bst |
13:54.09 | DiscordianUK | UTC isn't GMT |
13:54.37 | lweight | bilarh: yes! |
13:54.52 | lweight | um, have I bored you too with this idea? |
13:55.18 | bilarh | sorry you've lost me? |
13:55.37 | lweight | ah ok, the other BST :) |
13:55.54 | bilarh | the other one? there's two? |
13:56.01 | wethrin | UTC still requires offsets |
13:56.08 | bilarh | is this what the world has come to? :( |
13:56.10 | lweight | there will be at some point, hopefully |
13:56.12 | lweight | http://carrierdetect.com/?p=110 |
14:00.51 | DiscordianUK | hmm three hours still till the kebab shop opens |
14:07.29 | lweight | nothing like a traditional Friday meal :) |
14:07.40 | bilarh | mmm kebab |
14:07.41 | DiscordianUK | quite so |
14:07.53 | DiscordianUK | and it is traditional for me |
14:07.54 | lweight | elephant's leg kebab? |
14:08.11 | DiscordianUK | yeah lamb doner |
14:08.38 | lweight | is that meat form factor traditional? |
14:08.42 | lweight | I've always wondered |
14:08.53 | DiscordianUK | with extra chilli |
14:09.05 | DiscordianUK | I think it is |
14:09.25 | lweight | I see |
14:09.31 | DiscordianUK | real mechanically recovered meat |
14:09.34 | bilarh | well there's doner and doner isn't there |
14:10.35 | lweight | lives in a pretty good area for kebabs |
14:11.02 | lweight | Stoke Newington... |
14:11.03 | DiscordianUK | I've 5 kebab shops that will deliver here\ |
14:12.31 | lweight | never thought of kebab shops delivering |
14:12.38 | lweight | I wish fish and chip shops did |
14:13.11 | DiscordianUK | heh there's a chippie here that does |
14:14.00 | lweight | I had them yesterday, though |
14:14.07 | lweight | I should cook, really. |
14:14.09 | DiscordianUK | it does chinese foo too |
14:14.11 | Leeds | my local-to-work kebab shop closed a few months ago :-( |
14:14.18 | Leeds | mcdonalds and KFC both deliver here... |
14:14.27 | lweight | ugh |
14:14.37 | lweight | I had McDonalds last night, for the first time in about 10 years |
14:14.42 | DiscordianUK | If only UK KFCs delivered |
14:14.49 | lweight | I felt ill afterwards and ill when I got up |
14:15.16 | DiscordianUK | I live about 300 yards from a McD |
14:15.39 | DiscordianUK | I've been there exactly twice in 15 years |
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14:17.30 | lweight | I'm not sure McDonalds even qualifies as food |
14:17.56 | lweight | it's about as nutrional as /dev/zero |
14:18.52 | DiscordianUK | that's a little unfair |
14:19.06 | DiscordianUK | it has uber calories |
14:21.59 | lweight | anyone know of anything geeky event-wise on this weekend? |
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14:40.45 | lweight | 'lo benjamink |
14:45.39 | Mohan | can someone help me to fix the issue in this small bash script |
14:45.42 | Mohan | http://fpaste.org/paste/12644 |
14:46.55 | wethrin | Please to be consistent with your use of backticks, or $() |
14:47.45 | wethrin | Should you not need a $ after your TEST= ? |
14:47.57 | Mohan | wethrin i will change that. |
14:48.00 | Leeds | that did come to mind, yes |
14:48.23 | Mohan | in bash you dont need that http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php/syntax/arrays |
14:48.58 | wethrin | but you're running a command |
14:49.40 | Mohan | The problem i'm having here is i am trying to pass a dynamic var inside a single quote command |
14:50.55 | wethrin | swap your double and single quotes around |
14:51.05 | bilarh | mohan: do you mean at the last line? |
14:51.06 | bilarh | 19? |
14:51.15 | wethrin | Or use double quotes all the way through, and escape your internal doubles |
14:51.27 | Mohan | and if i remove the single quote the < > i/o redirections error, if i escape everything command wont work |
14:51.35 | wethrin | push \"<delete........<quit>\" |
14:51.42 | wethrin | Escape them, too |
14:51.48 | Mohan | bilarh: thats the command which runs all the parts in the array as a single command |
14:52.01 | bilarh | mohan: is that the one you're having problems with? |
14:52.16 | bilarh | oh it's "yold_date" etc? |
14:52.27 | wethrin | Your script is broken. |
14:52.43 | wethrin | You're trying to do unnecessarily weird stuff with it |
14:53.22 | bilarh | mohan: why don't you just pass it in like this instead |
14:53.23 | Mohan | yup, though the script works fine the date value is not expanding in the final statement as its inside the single quote |
14:53.40 | wethrin | $MUTT -f $MBOX -e "set folder=/dev/null; set delete=yes; push\"\<delete-pattern\>~d $YOLD_DATE - $MOLD_DATE\<enter\>\<quit\>\"" |
14:53.48 | wethrin | That's what you should need |
14:53.55 | bilarh | TEST=(/usr/bin/mutt -f blah blah -e "set blah" |
14:54.06 | bilarh | wot he said ^^ ;) |
14:54.09 | Mohan | http://fpaste.org/paste/12616 |
14:54.35 | Mohan | i tired this one and someone in #bash advised to follow the array method |
14:54.36 | bilarh | alternatively, build a temporary cmd string that is correct |
14:54.40 | bilarh | then shove that into the array |
14:54.41 | wethrin | MBOX=$MAIL is pointless |
14:54.45 | wethrin | Why not just use $MBOX? |
14:55.56 | bilarh | mohan: C='set folder=/dev/null; set delete=yes; push "<delete-pattern>~d '${YOLD_DATE}'-'${MOLD_DATE}'<enter><quit>"'; TEST=(/usr/bin/mutt ... -e $C ...); |
14:56.14 | Mohan | wethrin: i dont get any value for echo $MBOX in fedora/centos |
14:56.27 | wethrin | Er |
14:56.29 | wethrin | $MAIL |
14:56.33 | wethrin | Obviously :) |
14:56.49 | wethrin | You're assigning an existing variable to a new one, then you don't modify it |
14:57.03 | Mohan | true, agreed. |
14:57.22 | wethrin | So, you're trying to delete mail from an mbox |
14:57.29 | wethrin | 'mail' is probably the more correct program to use |
14:58.44 | wethrin | Also, this is a good reason to use Maildir |
14:58.51 | wethrin | mbox smells of poo and wee |
14:58.58 | lweight | heh |
14:59.04 | lweight | agress |
14:59.11 | bilarh | anyway, it's finally 16:00 so i'm off |
14:59.12 | lweight | s/agress/agrees |
14:59.13 | bilarh | l8rs folks |
14:59.16 | wethrin | later, slacker |
14:59.20 | bilarh | oi ;) |
14:59.21 | wethrin | Have a good bank holiday |
14:59.27 | bilarh | thank you |
14:59.49 | Mohan | wethrin: it works, thanks |
14:59.55 | wethrin | which? My line? |
14:59.59 | Mohan | yup |
15:00.04 | wethrin | yw :) |
15:00.19 | wethrin | Remember - use the simplest thing you can get away with |
15:00.36 | wethrin | arrays are decidedly unnecessary is this instance |
15:01.00 | wethrin | you're wanting to run the whole command; you don't want to be fiddling with individual bits of it |
15:04.48 | Mohan | hmm, agreed. |
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18:06.40 | DiscordianUK | evening |
18:21.39 | celesteh | greetings |
18:26.59 | DiscordianUK | hi |
19:59.06 | ChoHag | G_MARKUP_DO_NOT_USE_THIS_UNSUPPORTED_FLAG flag you should not use. |
19:59.15 | ChoHag | Good thing they cleared that up. |
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