01:12.40 | wethrin | well, it's been an exciting day in IRCland, hasn't it? |
01:14.32 | DiscordianUK | Not really |
01:15.02 | wethrin | puts the sarcasm tags around his statement |
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06:08.34 | ChoHag | http://notalwaysright.com/the-brain-damage-has-already-been-done/1918 |
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07:18.30 | DiscordianUK | Ullo EM, fancy seeing you here |
07:19.08 | EmleyMoor | Only just found out about this channel yesterday |
07:19.22 | DiscordianUK | hah |
07:19.34 | DiscordianUK | been here many many years |
07:22.12 | EmleyMoor | Yes - I'm so busy elsewhere on IRC I forgot to check |
07:22.35 | DiscordianUK | sure right |
07:22.44 | issyl0 | Hey. |
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07:23.02 | DiscordianUK | Hi issyl0 |
07:23.19 | issyl0 | Hi there. |
07:23.20 | DiscordianUK | Good post to the list |
07:23.26 | issyl0 | Thankyou. |
07:23.55 | DiscordianUK | There's plenty of Ubuntu people here |
07:24.15 | DiscordianUK | I'm not one, I do Fedora/CentOS |
07:24.36 | EmleyMoor | I'm a Debian person |
07:24.38 | issyl0 | Yes, I will reply to the replies later on today. I was a bit stupid really, posting to the list to introduce myself when I am moving house and not going to be around for the next two months except in McDonalds with free WiFi. |
07:24.44 | issyl0 | Ooh right. |
07:24.55 | issyl0 | Well Ubuntu's built on Debian, which is some consolation. |
07:25.33 | DiscordianUK | I'm guessing you're going to ULU from what you said |
07:25.48 | DiscordianUK | Univ London even |
07:26.07 | issyl0 | Haha no. |
07:26.12 | issyl0 | I'm not even 16 yet : |
07:26.26 | issyl0 | Surrey for me for the next two years. |
07:26.35 | DiscordianUK | ahh ok |
07:26.56 | EmleyMoor | Better keep this channel FYOSS <g> |
07:27.11 | DiscordianUK | I'm sure you'd be most welcome at the meets |
07:27.20 | issyl0 | FYOSS, EmleyMoor. |
07:27.30 | issyl0 | DiscordianUK, I was planning to come along to one one day. |
07:27.54 | EmleyMoor | Fourteen Year Old Sister Safe <g> |
07:28.11 | DiscordianUK | I used to undersist when I ran meets elsewhere under age females brought guardians |
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07:29.01 | DiscordianUK | These meets aren't my call |
07:29.31 | DiscordianUK | and indeed I rarely come to em now |
07:30.09 | EmleyMoor | I've never reached one yet |
07:30.21 | issyl0 | Ah right. |
07:31.06 | DiscordianUK | issyl0: I believe is good for young people to learn linux |
07:31.10 | DiscordianUK | it is |
07:31.13 | issyl0 | EmleyMoor, I'm fine haha. I'm used to IRC. Don't worry about FYOSS. |
07:31.15 | issyl0 | Yes, it is. |
07:31.17 | issyl0 | Very. |
07:32.19 | EmleyMoor | Indeed, I thought you'd be OK with it |
07:32.28 | DiscordianUK | I thoroughly support you coming to a meet |
07:32.35 | DiscordianUK | just in a safe way |
07:32.36 | EmleyMoor | guesses you don't have a FYOS |
07:33.14 | DiscordianUK | That's a acronym I didn't know |
07:33.16 | issyl0 | I don't, no. |
07:33.56 | issyl0 | DiscordianUK, yeah, safe way. Of course. |
07:34.19 | DiscordianUK | I remember insisting Sas who was 15 brought her parents to a meet I organised |
07:34.29 | EmleyMoor | Indeed, I agree |
07:34.38 | issyl0 | Hmmm. |
07:34.38 | DiscordianUK | I sat drinking in t'pub with em most of the time |
07:35.20 | issyl0 | My parents would come for the first few meetings I think. I won't be able to get to London at this stage on my own anyway, I'll have only just moved to the area. So yeah. And ot be safe and all that. |
07:35.35 | DiscordianUK | yes absolutely |
07:36.01 | DiscordianUK | after that down to you and them |
07:36.07 | issyl0 | Yup |
07:36.21 | DiscordianUK | I used to wander around London freely at 15 |
07:36.42 | DiscordianUK | But that was then and this is now and I'm male |
07:36.49 | issyl0 | Yeah ;) |
07:36.53 | EmleyMoor | And I around Birmingham |
07:37.56 | issyl0 | I've always lived in rural places and I could never go and knock on friends' doors and say 'want to go to town' or anything, it always had to be planned etc. Pretty annoying. |
07:38.11 | issyl0 | Brb, need to plug laptop in. |
07:38.36 | DiscordianUK | i doubt where I live counts as rural |
07:38.57 | DiscordianUK | even if I can see sheep out my bedroom window |
07:38.58 | EmleyMoor | Mind you, when I was 19, my grandfather didn't like me going to my local pub because he saw it as a "city" pub - I lived in a village on the west side of Sheffield |
07:40.00 | issyl0 | Heh |
07:40.21 | DiscordianUK | by the time I was 19 it was down to me where I drank or didn't |
07:40.28 | issyl0 | :) |
07:40.55 | EmleyMoor | Indeed |
07:41.12 | DiscordianUK | My parents did control where I drank till about 17 |
07:41.58 | EmleyMoor | I almost never went out socialising before I was 18 - transport at night was lousy and there's not that much to do in Hednesford anyway |
07:42.03 | DiscordianUK | I dunno whether underage drinking still happens |
07:42.12 | DiscordianUK | It did in my day |
07:42.45 | issyl0 | Probably. |
07:42.51 | issyl0 | It's probably worse now! |
07:43.03 | issyl0 | It seems to be everywhere else you hear about on the news. |
07:43.06 | DiscordianUK | maybe |
07:43.31 | DiscordianUK | My dad used to let me buy a bottle of cider weekends |
07:43.38 | DiscordianUK | and bring it home |
07:44.16 | issyl0 | is copying music to her external HDD in the hope of making more space to install Ubuntu (via Wubi, my parents would not like me very much if I completely messed up my laptop with trying to install Ubuntu properly)! |
07:44.33 | issyl0 | Hehe |
07:44.45 | EmleyMoor | The odd beer or cider was OK for me - good pain relief too |
07:45.17 | DiscordianUK | No idea keep windows if you need it |
07:45.35 | DiscordianUK | Good idea |
07:45.56 | DiscordianUK | It's why I still have vista on this |
07:46.03 | EmleyMoor | kept Windows on his first Linux box - but not for long! |
07:46.07 | issyl0 | Hmmm. |
07:46.17 | DiscordianUK | Though I only ever use Fedora |
07:46.38 | issyl0 | At school they made me use Windows and office 2007 (horrible software). |
07:47.00 | DiscordianUK | You have my sympathies |
07:47.11 | DiscordianUK | I prefer OOO |
07:47.17 | issyl0 | Yes. |
07:48.24 | DiscordianUK | I have a licensed version of Office 2007 horrid thing |
07:48.47 | DiscordianUK | which indeed runs on Vista which I also hate |
07:49.31 | DiscordianUK | I like OOO |
07:50.41 | DiscordianUK | But Linux runs my math apps too |
07:53.09 | DiscordianUK | Don't worry I don't cmr |
07:53.26 | DiscordianUK | come to meets anymore |
07:59.08 | issyl0 | Oh right. |
07:59.10 | issyl0 | Why not? |
08:00.10 | DiscordianUK | I'm fairly disabled now |
08:00.31 | DiscordianUK | I don't really do going to things |
08:04.00 | issyl0 | Oh right. |
08:04.02 | issyl0 | :( |
08:04.38 | DiscordianUK | oh look you won't miss me I'm a doddery old man with a walking stick |
08:05.12 | DiscordianUK | some of this lot are much younger and brighter than me |
08:07.55 | AndyMillar | why are we not doing meets? |
08:08.47 | DiscordianUK | I believe someone needs to step up to the plate and organise em |
08:09.04 | AndyMillar | ah |
08:09.24 | DiscordianUK | This is Greater London |
08:09.34 | issyl0 | Ah right. |
08:09.39 | AndyMillar | in that case |
08:09.42 | AndyMillar | shall do so now |
08:09.49 | DiscordianUK | we should have huge meets |
08:09.57 | issyl0 | We should. |
08:09.58 | issyl0 | I think. |
08:10.09 | DiscordianUK | It's one of the world's biggest cities |
08:11.22 | DiscordianUK | rah |
08:11.37 | issyl0 | Heh |
08:12.06 | AndyMillar | hoo rah! |
08:13.15 | AndyMillar | and not everyone is old :) |
08:13.21 | DiscordianUK | make it work and you'll pull world class lecturers in |
08:15.16 | DiscordianUK | I don't mean RMS incidentally |
08:18.31 | DiscordianUK | But good if you can make it regular and i suspect uni westminster will accomodate |
08:19.55 | DiscordianUK | a |
08:20.37 | DiscordianUK | and perhaps Birkbeck I'm sure we did meets there |
09:21.53 | Leeds | I think the time of the LUG has somewhat passed |
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09:47.01 | wethrin | mornin' |
09:51.30 | Leeds | afternoon -> Transformers |
09:54.56 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Good nearly midday ;-) |
09:59.32 | wethrin | It's a whole hour until midday! |
09:59.45 | wethrin | I got rudely woken up by a friend phoning |
10:00.23 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Bloody friends, who'd have em aye? |
10:00.48 | wethrin | quite! |
10:01.35 | wethrin | "Old person dies from flu" <-- Not news, BBC, not news |
10:03.37 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Anyway you lazy git I've been up since 05:30 |
10:07.23 | wethrin | Pah. |
11:09.12 | wethrin | mmm, steak |
14:27.21 | issyl0 | Yes! I now have Ubuntu running properly. |
14:27.22 | issyl0 | :) |
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14:39.31 | DiscordianUK | Good afternoon |
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15:06.10 | wethrin | Isn't getting Ubuntu to run properly a case of boot the CD? :) |
15:06.17 | wethrin | (and if it doesn't work, give up, you have no chance) |
15:06.33 | DiscordianUK | I dunno |
15:07.05 | DiscordianUK | I'm impressed by it's ksplice tech |
15:07.19 | wethrin | ksplce? |
15:07.23 | wethrin | err |
15:07.25 | wethrin | YKWIM |
15:07.56 | DiscordianUK | patching the inline kernel |
15:08.19 | DiscordianUK | incore kernel if you will |
15:08.45 | wethrin | ahh |
15:09.38 | wethrin | so you can fiddle bits of the kernel without rebooting? |
15:09.52 | DiscordianUK | yeah |
15:10.19 | wethrin | is that really all that useful? |
15:11.09 | DiscordianUK | Security fixes etc I guess |
15:11.26 | DiscordianUK | I just install a new kernel and reboot |
15:12.09 | wethrin | aye, that seems safest |
15:12.31 | wethrin | rebooting's not such a big issue, anyway |
15:12.49 | DiscordianUK | It is for some it seems |
15:13.05 | wethrin | they're doing it wrong, then :) |
15:13.15 | wethrin | other than uptime willy-waving, which is just silly |
15:13.28 | DiscordianUK | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/06/27/2238255/Ksplice-Offers-Rebootless-Updates-For-Ubuntu-Systems |
15:13.41 | DiscordianUK | I don't do that |
15:14.45 | wethrin | Hm. "If you are a carrier in telephony and don't want downtime..." <-- in that case, you haven't forked out enough for your infrastucture, and you automatically fail |
15:15.00 | DiscordianUK | heh |
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