IRC log for #gllug on 20090628

01:12.40wethrinwell, it's been an exciting day in IRCland, hasn't it?
01:14.32DiscordianUKNot really
01:15.02wethrinputs the sarcasm tags around his statement
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06:08.34ChoHaghttp://notalwaysright.com/the-brain-damage-has-already-been-done/1918
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07:18.30DiscordianUKUllo EM, fancy seeing you here
07:19.08EmleyMoorOnly just found out about this channel yesterday
07:19.22DiscordianUKhah
07:19.34DiscordianUKbeen here many many years
07:22.12EmleyMoorYes - I'm so busy elsewhere on IRC I forgot to check
07:22.35DiscordianUKsure right
07:22.44issyl0Hey.
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07:23.02DiscordianUKHi issyl0
07:23.19issyl0Hi there.
07:23.20DiscordianUKGood post to the list
07:23.26issyl0Thankyou.
07:23.55DiscordianUKThere's plenty of Ubuntu people here
07:24.15DiscordianUKI'm not one, I do Fedora/CentOS
07:24.36EmleyMoorI'm a Debian person
07:24.38issyl0Yes, I will reply to the replies later on today.  I was a bit stupid really, posting to the list to introduce myself when I am moving house and not going to be around for the next two months except in McDonalds with free WiFi.
07:24.44issyl0Ooh right.
07:24.55issyl0Well Ubuntu's built on Debian, which is some consolation.
07:25.33DiscordianUKI'm guessing you're going to ULU from what you said
07:25.48DiscordianUKUniv London even
07:26.07issyl0Haha no.
07:26.12issyl0I'm not even 16 yet :
07:26.26issyl0Surrey for me for the next two years.
07:26.35DiscordianUKahh ok
07:26.56EmleyMoorBetter keep this channel FYOSS <g>
07:27.11DiscordianUKI'm sure you'd be most welcome at the meets
07:27.20issyl0FYOSS, EmleyMoor.
07:27.30issyl0DiscordianUK, I was planning to come along to one one day.
07:27.54EmleyMoorFourteen Year Old Sister Safe <g>
07:28.11DiscordianUKI used to undersist when I ran meets elsewhere under age females brought guardians
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07:29.01DiscordianUKThese meets aren't my call
07:29.31DiscordianUKand indeed I rarely come to em now
07:30.09EmleyMoorI've never reached one yet
07:30.21issyl0Ah right.
07:31.06DiscordianUKissyl0: I believe is good for young people to learn linux
07:31.10DiscordianUKit is
07:31.13issyl0EmleyMoor, I'm fine haha.  I'm used to IRC.  Don't worry about FYOSS.
07:31.15issyl0Yes, it is.
07:31.17issyl0Very.
07:32.19EmleyMoorIndeed, I thought you'd be OK with it
07:32.28DiscordianUKI thoroughly support you coming to a meet
07:32.35DiscordianUKjust in a safe way
07:32.36EmleyMoorguesses you don't have a FYOS
07:33.14DiscordianUKThat's a acronym I didn't know
07:33.16issyl0I don't, no.
07:33.56issyl0DiscordianUK, yeah, safe way. Of course.
07:34.19DiscordianUKI remember insisting Sas who was 15 brought her parents to a meet I organised
07:34.29EmleyMoorIndeed, I agree
07:34.38issyl0Hmmm.
07:34.38DiscordianUKI sat drinking in t'pub with em most of the time
07:35.20issyl0My parents would come for the first few meetings I think.  I won't be able to get to London at this stage on my own anyway, I'll have only just moved to the area.  So yeah.  And ot be safe and all that.
07:35.35DiscordianUKyes absolutely
07:36.01DiscordianUKafter that down to you and them
07:36.07issyl0Yup
07:36.21DiscordianUKI used to wander around London freely at 15
07:36.42DiscordianUKBut that was then and this is now and I'm male
07:36.49issyl0Yeah ;)
07:36.53EmleyMoorAnd I around Birmingham
07:37.56issyl0I've always lived in rural places and I could never go and knock on friends'  doors and say 'want to go to town' or anything, it always had to be planned etc.  Pretty annoying.
07:38.11issyl0Brb, need to plug laptop in.
07:38.36DiscordianUKi doubt where I live counts as rural
07:38.57DiscordianUKeven if I can see sheep out my bedroom window
07:38.58EmleyMoorMind you, when I was 19, my grandfather didn't like me going to my local pub because he saw it as a "city" pub - I lived in a village on the west side of Sheffield
07:40.00issyl0Heh
07:40.21DiscordianUKby the time I was 19 it was down to me where I drank or didn't
07:40.28issyl0:)
07:40.55EmleyMoorIndeed
07:41.12DiscordianUKMy parents did control where I drank till about 17
07:41.58EmleyMoorI almost never went out socialising before I was 18 - transport at night was lousy and there's not that much to do in Hednesford anyway
07:42.03DiscordianUKI dunno whether underage drinking still happens
07:42.12DiscordianUKIt did in my day
07:42.45issyl0Probably.
07:42.51issyl0It's probably worse now!
07:43.03issyl0It seems to be everywhere else you hear about on the news.
07:43.06DiscordianUKmaybe
07:43.31DiscordianUKMy dad used to let me buy a bottle of cider weekends
07:43.38DiscordianUKand bring it home
07:44.16issyl0is copying music to her external HDD in the hope of making more space to install Ubuntu (via Wubi, my parents would not like me very much if I completely messed up my laptop with trying to install Ubuntu properly)!
07:44.33issyl0Hehe
07:44.45EmleyMoorThe odd beer or cider was OK for me - good pain relief too
07:45.17DiscordianUKNo idea keep windows if you need it
07:45.35DiscordianUKGood idea
07:45.56DiscordianUKIt's why I still have vista on this
07:46.03EmleyMoorkept Windows on his first Linux box - but not for long!
07:46.07issyl0Hmmm.
07:46.17DiscordianUKThough I only ever use Fedora
07:46.38issyl0At school they made me use Windows and office 2007 (horrible software).
07:47.00DiscordianUKYou have my sympathies
07:47.11DiscordianUKI prefer OOO
07:47.17issyl0Yes.
07:48.24DiscordianUKI have a licensed version of Office 2007 horrid thing
07:48.47DiscordianUKwhich indeed runs on Vista which I also hate
07:49.31DiscordianUKI like OOO
07:50.41DiscordianUKBut Linux runs my math apps too
07:53.09DiscordianUKDon't worry I don't cmr
07:53.26DiscordianUKcome to meets anymore
07:59.08issyl0Oh right.
07:59.10issyl0Why not?
08:00.10DiscordianUKI'm fairly disabled now
08:00.31DiscordianUKI don't really do going to things
08:04.00issyl0Oh right.
08:04.02issyl0:(
08:04.38DiscordianUKoh look you won't miss me I'm a doddery old man with a walking stick
08:05.12DiscordianUKsome of this lot are much younger and brighter than me
08:07.55AndyMillarwhy are we not doing meets?
08:08.47DiscordianUKI believe someone needs to step up to the plate and organise em
08:09.04AndyMillarah
08:09.24DiscordianUKThis is Greater London
08:09.34issyl0Ah right.
08:09.39AndyMillarin that case
08:09.42AndyMillarshall do so now
08:09.49DiscordianUKwe should have huge meets
08:09.57issyl0We should.
08:09.58issyl0I think.
08:10.09DiscordianUKIt's one of the world's biggest cities
08:11.22DiscordianUKrah
08:11.37issyl0Heh
08:12.06AndyMillarhoo rah!
08:13.15AndyMillarand not everyone is old :)
08:13.21DiscordianUKmake it work and you'll pull world class lecturers in
08:15.16DiscordianUKI don't mean RMS incidentally
08:18.31DiscordianUKBut good if you can make it regular and i suspect uni westminster will accomodate
08:19.55DiscordianUKa
08:20.37DiscordianUKand perhaps Birkbeck I'm sure we did meets there
09:21.53LeedsI think the time of the LUG has somewhat passed
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09:47.01wethrinmornin'
09:51.30Leedsafternoon -> Transformers
09:54.56dick_turpinwethrin: Good nearly midday ;-)
09:59.32wethrinIt's a whole hour until midday!
09:59.45wethrinI got rudely woken up by a friend phoning
10:00.23dick_turpinwethrin: Bloody friends, who'd have em aye?
10:00.48wethrinquite!
10:01.35wethrin"Old person dies from flu" <-- Not news, BBC, not news
10:03.37dick_turpinwethrin: Anyway you lazy git I've been up since 05:30
10:07.23wethrinPah.
11:09.12wethrinmmm, steak
14:27.21issyl0Yes!  I now have Ubuntu running properly.
14:27.22issyl0:)
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14:39.31DiscordianUKGood afternoon
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15:06.10wethrinIsn't getting Ubuntu to run properly a case of boot the CD? :)
15:06.17wethrin(and if it doesn't work, give up, you have no chance)
15:06.33DiscordianUKI dunno
15:07.05DiscordianUKI'm impressed by it's ksplice tech
15:07.19wethrinksplce?
15:07.23wethrinerr
15:07.25wethrinYKWIM
15:07.56DiscordianUKpatching the inline kernel
15:08.19DiscordianUKincore kernel if you will
15:08.45wethrinahh
15:09.38wethrinso you can fiddle bits of the kernel without rebooting?
15:09.52DiscordianUKyeah
15:10.19wethrinis that really all that useful?
15:11.09DiscordianUKSecurity fixes etc I guess
15:11.26DiscordianUKI just install a new kernel and reboot
15:12.09wethrinaye, that seems safest
15:12.31wethrinrebooting's not such a big issue, anyway
15:12.49DiscordianUKIt is for some it seems
15:13.05wethrinthey're doing it wrong, then :)
15:13.15wethrinother than uptime willy-waving, which is just silly
15:13.28DiscordianUKhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/06/27/2238255/Ksplice-Offers-Rebootless-Updates-For-Ubuntu-Systems
15:13.41DiscordianUKI don't do that
15:14.45wethrinHm. "If you are a carrier in telephony and don't want downtime..." <-- in that case, you haven't forked out enough for your infrastucture, and you automatically fail
15:15.00DiscordianUKheh
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