| 00:16.30 | DiscordianUK | morning |
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| 08:21.34 | bilarh | morning |
| 08:25.13 | antiphase | You wouldn't know from looking out |
| 08:25.53 | bilarh | my computer clock says 9:27, so morning |
| 08:26.00 | antiphase | It's fast |
| 08:31.35 | bilarh | ah, but all mine are :) |
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| 12:18.05 | j0nr | argh |
| 12:18.29 | j0nr | if i simply want to be able to send email from a remote location using my mail server as smtp server, do i need a certificate or not |
| 12:18.35 | j0nr | guides on the net all conflict and confuse |
| 12:19.39 | wethrin | No. |
| 12:19.53 | wethrin | You can use SMTP with basic AUTH to do what you want |
| 12:24.49 | z00dax | startls isnt hard to setup, and is a bit more secure. j0nr you can mostly just generate and use your own certs, you dont need to 'get paid for certs' |
| 12:28.48 | j0nr | i'm annoyed |
| 12:29.00 | j0nr | i set something up with certs.... now i can;t remember what i did |
| 12:29.05 | j0nr | now i feel its a bit of a mess |
| 12:29.23 | j0nr | i think the cert has expired |
| 12:29.32 | j0nr | i cant send using my current setup |
| 12:29.37 | j0nr | from a remote location |
| 12:29.47 | z00dax | I tend to usually do self-made certs with an expiry into 10 years+ |
| 12:29.51 | j0nr | the net is just FULL of too many different ways of doing things and is confusing |
| 12:30.16 | j0nr | i feel like removing postfix and dovecot and starting again |
| 12:30.26 | z00dax | that sounds a bit harsh |
| 12:30.29 | j0nr | but that might not get rid of the config files/certs.... |
| 12:30.45 | j0nr | my main.cf is full of sasl_ things |
| 12:31.02 | j0nr | i think i need them to remote access my imap mail right? |
| 12:31.15 | z00dax | postfix wont have anything to do with imap |
| 12:31.31 | z00dax | postfix will handle inbound email and put it somewhere that dovecot and serve it out to clients from |
| 12:31.45 | z00dax | s/t and s/t can s/ |
| 12:32.20 | z00dax | siglunch! |
| 12:32.45 | j0nr | so why did i need to set up .pems etc? |
| 12:33.36 | j0nr | and .key |
| 12:33.47 | j0nr | i have /etc/ssl/certs and private |
| 12:33.57 | j0nr | each containing a variety of .pem and .key |
| 12:33.59 | j0nr | .crt |
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| 12:58.45 | z00dax | j0nr: depends on what you setup and how, postfix will use ssl /tls for email sending/recieve as well |
| 13:08.10 | j0nr | http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot |
| 13:08.35 | j0nr | trying that and i get a "could not establish a SSL connection" from my client |
| 13:08.59 | j0nr | so i wonder if other things i did previously is conflicting... as that guides mentions nothing about creating certs |
| 13:09.18 | j0nr | how can i get a basic, unmolested postfox main.cf? |
| 13:09.27 | j0nr | s/postfox/postfix/ |
| 13:11.01 | j0nr | shit all i want to do is send mail from a remote location |
| 13:11.52 | z00dax | j0nr: what distro are you on ? |
| 13:12.15 | j0nr | ubuntu |
| 13:12.23 | z00dax | most have a way to check / reinstall the 'clean' configs |
| 13:14.22 | j0nr | not sure how i would do that |
| 13:30.43 | antiphase | Remove the config files and `apt-get install --reinstall foo` |
| 13:42.15 | j0nr | ok,... so following simple guides now... it still doesn't work |
| 13:42.20 | j0nr | son of a monkey's uncle! |
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| 14:12.52 | bilarh | if you've already got a dropped kerb, you don't need to get planning permission to extend the drive way, do you? |
| 14:13.49 | cpufreak | phone up your local planning office and ask. |
| 14:14.09 | AndyMillar | or just do it |
| 14:14.12 | cpufreak | what are you extending the drive over? |
| 14:14.15 | AndyMillar | haven't you learned from women? |
| 14:14.22 | AndyMillar | it's better to ask forgiveness than permission |
| 14:14.31 | bilarh | it's just hypothetical... was looking at a house on rightmove |
| 14:14.35 | cpufreak | I try not to let women teach me, iit never works out well. |
| 14:14.46 | bilarh | and it could have a big nice drive, but at the moment it's a puny little one car space |
| 14:14.46 | cpufreak | last time it happened, she grabbed my leg, thinking it was a gear stick |
| 14:15.17 | cpufreak | how many cars do you have? |
| 14:15.40 | bilarh | three at present |
| 14:18.26 | bilarh | 3 bed detached in need of complete renovation |
| 14:18.32 | bilarh | i don't know if i can be bothered |
| 14:19.20 | antiphase | Some builder will pay more for it that you will |
| 14:19.28 | antiphase | Or some fucking buy-to-let cunt |
| 14:19.36 | antiphase | stabs |
| 14:24.54 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Rich bastard |
| 14:26.40 | cpufreak | hmm |
| 14:26.41 | cpufreak | http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1017585.htm |
| 14:26.50 | cpufreak | just asked if I can go view it. |
| 14:28.24 | bilarh | antiphase: btl is the scourge of england |
| 14:28.51 | bilarh | dick_turpin: polish my shoes! |
| 14:28.54 | antiphase | puts a banana in bilarh's tailpipe |
| 14:29.44 | bilarh | oh wtf, some tosser has overwritten my development version of a script with a plain vanilla copy |
| 14:29.45 | dick_turpin | puts a themic lance up bilarh's tail pipe |
| 14:30.21 | bilarh | cpufreak: isn't that going to be a bit slow after a csl? |
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| 14:34.57 | cpufreak | no |
| 14:35.01 | cpufreak | they're awesome |
| 14:39.35 | antiphase | When are you seeing it? |
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| 15:04.47 | cpufreak | maybe saturday |
| 15:05.03 | cpufreak | how quickly can you get money out of premium bonds? |
| 15:08.01 | antiphase | You probably have to write to them and wait for the cheque to arrive |
| 15:12.09 | bilarh | get a loan and make sure tehre are no early repayment penalties? |
| 15:46.22 | cpufreak | don't want to take a loan out |
| 15:46.28 | cpufreak | need to remortgage soon |
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